The Random Photography Show with Adam Edwards (EP163)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sam. [00:00:30] Speaker B: Well, well, well. Good evening, everybody, and welcome back to yet another episode of the Camera Life podcast. This is the random photography show, proudly, super proudly brought to you by the team at Lucky straps. Head to Luckystraps.com if you are looking for a handmade premium leather camera strap made right here in Australia, in Bendigo, in fact, And Justin will hand deliver it to you anywhere in the world. Did I read that right? [00:00:54] Speaker A: I'll put it on my drone and I'll try and fly it to you, but it's got limited battery capacity and. And you have to keep within a certain range. But anyway, a bit limiting for people, [00:01:01] Speaker B: but anyway, we'll work something out. Maybe we'll use the mail. Who knows? [00:01:05] Speaker A: Yeah, that could work. [00:01:07] Speaker B: Yeah, we've done it before once or twice, but head to Luckystraps.com, choose out your leather camera strap. We offer personalization and customizations galore. Plus, if you use Code Greg at checkout, you'll get a cheeky little discount. So head there for that. And just very quickly, if you're watching, please give us a like. It helps us out a lot. It lets other people know that our content is worth viewing. And if you're new here, subscribe, doesn't hurt, doesn't cost you anything. And you'll get notified in your time zone of every upcoming episode of the Camera Life podcast. But you will have noticed tonight, obviously, we're joined by the boss. Justin, good to see you. [00:01:41] Speaker A: Hi. Good to see you. [00:01:43] Speaker B: Good to see you. And speaking of people that are good to see, we are joined once again by as a co host, not as a guest. Co host, Adam Edwards. G', day, mate. [00:01:52] Speaker A: Hello. [00:01:53] Speaker C: Yeah, how you going back? Yeah, thank you. [00:01:56] Speaker B: Very quick turnaround for you to come back from your interview to being a co host. Look how quickly we promoted you. [00:02:01] Speaker C: It feels like it was weeks ago. [00:02:04] Speaker A: Well, you've been doing cool stuff. [00:02:06] Speaker B: You've been busy. [00:02:07] Speaker C: It was months ago. Was it January? [00:02:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it was January. [00:02:11] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:02:14] Speaker A: Quite the interview, too. [00:02:15] Speaker B: It was quite the interview. [00:02:17] Speaker A: Yeah. If you. If you're listening, go back and go back and listen. If you haven't listened to that one, you'll get the whole backstory. But enjoy this right now. [00:02:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:02:25] Speaker C: Not now, later. [00:02:28] Speaker B: So when we did interview you last, we were talking about your workshops and your video series that you. And you put out yet another episode of your video series on. On photographing in Africa, but since then you've been to Iceland. [00:02:44] Speaker C: Yes. It was amazing. Yeah, it's like the time of year where I thought I would never be too busy. And then silly me, put two like big workshops like back to back. Pretty much had Christmas off. But you know, they, they're, they're a 10 or 12 day workshop but they're weeks and weeks of planning and prep and travel and all sorts of stuff. So it actually kept me really busy when I probably that time of year would have been nice to have my feet up. [00:03:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:17] Speaker A: Is that because it gets. When's your busy time of the year normally starts? [00:03:22] Speaker C: Now. [00:03:22] Speaker A: Yeah, now. [00:03:23] Speaker C: So like my first Australian workshops this weekend in Kangaroo island and then scattered right through till beef up pretty much. So right through till October. Yeah. Just trying to make use of the more palatable weather and shorter days as well. Like. [00:03:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:43] Speaker C: You know, you have pretty long days during summer. Where's everybody out? [00:03:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Doing sunrise and sunset in summer is pretty rough. Yeah. [00:03:53] Speaker B: Like for me going out doing street photography, I'm out there at like 7:30 and I'm still not seeing the full golden hour. You know, it's. Yeah, it's funny, you kind of, you wait and wait and wait for that time in summer which is, I mean it's a first world problem obviously. [00:04:05] Speaker C: But yeah, the lights never is good neither because it, it's, it's, you know, it's coming up and down really quickly. It's not sort of got that arc like it does in winter. [00:04:17] Speaker A: Yeah. It doesn't linger on that lower trajectory. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely trickier. I know that with, with my mountain bike shoots, summer's always just, just tough. The light's just harder and it's. And yeah, we're up. If we're going to shoot in the morning, you're up at 4 or 5 to get to the location and driving in the dark and stuff. And then if you do them in the evening. Yeah. One like, I think one that I did. We didn't get the good light until like. Yeah, we did. We didn't get the good light until about 8:30 and then. And then. Yeah, it's over before you know it. Yeah, it's a long day. [00:04:48] Speaker B: Yep. So just before we dive into what you've been up to, Adam, and obviously your Iceland trip. We're keen to hear all about Iceland because I'm sure most photographers that have a fleeting interest in landscape have Iceland on their bucket list and we'll have a look at your experience. Plus we'll, you know, we'll remind people that there are tours available if you want to cross that thing off the bucket list. But Justin, do You want to say good morning. Good morning. Geez. Good evening to some people. [00:05:17] Speaker A: Yeah, there's tons of people in the chat. Who was here first? Of course. Dennis Smith, School of Light. Obviously responding. Responding to my. My thumbnail. Is Iceland. Worth it. He's replied. Does a bear in the woods or does it. Does a deer near a volcano? I don't. I don't know. I don't know. [00:05:39] Speaker B: Iceland version. [00:05:40] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Anyway, Philip Johnson is here. [00:05:45] Speaker B: I got, I got you. I see where you're coming from. [00:05:48] Speaker A: I didn't get it. Paul. Brett Wooderson, Tweak Productions. Of course. Good evening, party people. Not going to walk the whole podcast this week? Oh, yeah, that's right. Last week. Walked for the whole time. I learned my lesson. [00:06:03] Speaker B: Or was he out walking? [00:06:05] Speaker A: I think on a treadmill. Maybe just the news. So about an hour and a half. Yeah, we'll try and keep it. We're going to keep the whole show to an hour and a half this week. It's gonna be great. What else? Greg Carrick's here with snacks and drinks. David Leporardi, Lisa Leach. Good evening, gentlemen. Good to see you. And a big hello to Adam. Rick Nelson is here. Bruce Moyle is here. Who else? Who else? Lisa Leach. Good to see you. David Skinner. And tons of photos in today. So we'll be, you know, this is the random photography show. We do your images at the end of the show. We'll have a look through your images and we've got heaps in, especially from some new names, which is fun. So that's cool. [00:06:49] Speaker B: That's very cool. If you, whenever you. Sorry, Joe, you go. [00:06:53] Speaker A: Oh, just that, just that. For the people that haven't sent any photos in before, it's simple. Just email them to me justinuckystraps.com and they'll go on next week's show. So do that if you're listening later or if you're listening now, get in for next. [00:07:05] Speaker B: Try to add some camera specs, what settings you had, and also a little story about the experience. Just couple of services. Yeah. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Or if. Or if there's something that you're like, oh, I'm just not sure if I crop this right or whatever. Throw that in there too. And we'll just give you our unsolicited advice on. On how else you could crop it. Gareth Davies, LTK. Good morning from North Carolina. 4:30am North Carolina? Yeah, North Carolina, I think. [00:07:33] Speaker B: So that's commitment. [00:07:35] Speaker A: Yeah, that's commitment, yeah. Thank you. Phil Thompson from Geelong. Good to see you. [00:07:41] Speaker B: Hey, Phil. [00:07:43] Speaker A: And who else? Oh, Jason Rogers. What's up? Okay. Anyway, everyone's here. Yeah. [00:07:49] Speaker B: You know what I love is that while we're sort of doing a little preamble, a little introduction stuff, the chat is going off and people are having conversations. They're discussing their craft in our chat. I think that's really. That's amazing. I think it's really cool. Offering the news opinion. [00:08:05] Speaker A: This is the new, like, Facebook news feed. It's here now. You don't need that anymore. You just come here and you hang [00:08:11] Speaker C: out every Monday night. [00:08:13] Speaker A: That's right. And it's like. And then you get your social media out of the way for the week, and then, you know. [00:08:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:18] Speaker A: See you next week. [00:08:19] Speaker C: Yeah, it's cool. [00:08:21] Speaker A: It's very cool. Commitment or insomnia? Yeah. Look, it is 4:30. Is. Are you up for work or are you just up to listen to us? [00:08:30] Speaker C: Love to know there's no way he's gonna say he's not up to listen to us. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. [00:08:37] Speaker A: I appreciate it. [00:08:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:39] Speaker A: Nothing else to do. Okay. Oh, Greg. Who's it? Greg says we talk more when things gets boring. Okay. So the show's boring. All right. Thank you, Crackers. [00:08:52] Speaker B: That's great. [00:08:52] Speaker A: Appreciate it. Go back to your radio show. You've just made the list. What should we. Should we do some news and then get. And then. So we can get to Iceland? I want to hear about it. [00:09:05] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do that. Because there's. There's not a lot of news. It's very quiet. Let's jump to the news, though. [00:09:10] Speaker A: Okay. [00:09:11] Speaker B: Well, do the sound [00:09:15] Speaker C: machine. [00:09:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:16] Speaker B: LT LTK photo says I leave for work at 5:30. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Well done. [00:09:23] Speaker B: That's early today's news headlines. Last week we were. Last two weeks, we were bombarded with news of new lenses and even some new cameras coming out of CP Plus. And since then, I've even seen a couple of smartphones that were presented at CP plus, including that one with the little osmo, like, camera dongle. Not dongle. What do they call them? Gimbal. [00:09:47] Speaker A: The little gimbal thing. Oh, I'll find that. Do you want me to find it? Because we were talking about it last week. [00:09:53] Speaker B: Cool. Yeah. [00:09:53] Speaker C: I don't know. [00:09:53] Speaker B: I didn't. [00:09:54] Speaker A: That's what I think. I saw it here. I'll find it. I saw it on the Internet and I was like, oh. Greg was mentioning this because we hadn't seen it, like, any more about it, and then here it is again. [00:10:06] Speaker B: We said last week Maybe it just faded. Maybe it was just. [00:10:09] Speaker A: Yeah, no, that. But they had a working prototype by the sounds of it. There we go. So they had a working prototype at CP plus, which is this thing, the Honor phone. And I just, I'm looking at it here and I'm looking at it and it makes sense, but I don't think the prototype folds away because like look [00:10:35] Speaker B: at this, look how thick it is. [00:10:37] Speaker A: I just, I just, I'm looking at it and I saw this and I was like, this can't be a working prototype. And then, and then this is it folded away and I'm like, I don't, I just don't, I don't see it. Yeah. I'd need to feel one in person to believe that this actually folds into that spot. [00:10:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:57] Speaker A: Do you reckon? [00:10:58] Speaker B: Yeah, it feels a bit, a lot of magic. [00:11:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And obviously they, they believe that they can do it, but I don't know how far off they think this is. Yeah, don't know. [00:11:12] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. [00:11:13] Speaker A: I just don't think. Do you think it's even needed? [00:11:16] Speaker C: No. On a smartphone I think it's a gimmick. Like how good a video are you going to be doing? And does it need a gimbal stabilized like the mobile stabilizing anyway and, and [00:11:30] Speaker A: yeah, The Osmo Pocket 3 is way better than a phone, but it's got a way bigger sensor and camera than this does. Like this can't be that. It's never going to be as good as that. So it's like it's. And a phone is pretty close to the Osmo Pocket 3. I don't think there's a big enough gap in there for this to live. It's just weird. [00:11:49] Speaker C: No. [00:11:50] Speaker B: Yeah. And you know, it's, it's perched, it's per. Like Greg said, highly breakable. It's perched on top of a phone. You know what, what happens when you bum dial and it tries to open [00:12:03] Speaker A: the camera to open up? I don't use my bum to dialys my fingers, but pretty precise bum. [00:12:10] Speaker B: So you know, [00:12:12] Speaker A: I'm imagining this. Like, do you remember like the Nokia like 3310s and stuff? Remember when. So now when you drop your phone and it smashes and you're just really sad because you know it's going to cost a minimum of about 600 bucks to get the screen fixed. [00:12:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:28] Speaker A: But back when you had a 3310, you drop it and the back cover would go one way, the battery would go another way. Like the phone would just. Just disintegrate. But then you put it back together, it was okay. It was just crazy. [00:12:42] Speaker C: Mash it all back together. [00:12:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:12:44] Speaker B: But it was almost like they designed it to. To spread, you know. [00:12:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Like crumple zones in a car. [00:12:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And if you were especially clumsy, the. The SIM card would fly out. [00:12:54] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. So I'm. I'm wondering whether this gimbal would just. Just come into five different pieces when you drop it to the ground while the gimbal's out. Anyway, apparently coming to the market some point in 2026, starting in China first. [00:13:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:11] Speaker A: And AI. It'll be. [00:13:12] Speaker C: AI will be China. [00:13:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Just because it's a different type of thing. [00:13:18] Speaker C: Yeah. And just like, there's just a massive market and they're. They're always like, phones are so big, you know, in content production, I think, for the. For those sorts of countries, like. Yeah, they are, you know. Yeah. I'll bet you they have a. A proprietary selfie stick to go with the phone. [00:13:40] Speaker A: Probably. Yeah. [00:13:45] Speaker C: Yeah. It doesn't work on the gimbal unless you use our selfie stick. [00:13:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:50] Speaker A: I mean, custom. Yeah. [00:13:52] Speaker B: If they just made the camera on a gimbal, the. That plugs into the bottom of a standard phone, that would be a different thing. But this. It's a big leap for people to go from, say, you know, if you've. Especially if you've been with Apple or Samsung forever, to then trust in this sort of. [00:14:09] Speaker C: This. [00:14:09] Speaker B: This other brand. It's weird, isn't it? I guess it may not even come to Australia sometimes. These products don't even leave Asia. [00:14:15] Speaker C: Yeah. So, yeah. [00:14:20] Speaker A: Cats in Ellen Bogan. How thick will it be? Is my question. Yeah, I mean, this. It doesn't look that much thicker than an iPhone, but it has to be. [00:14:28] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. [00:14:30] Speaker A: Anyway, we'll see. [00:14:31] Speaker C: I just want my phone to answer phone calls. [00:14:34] Speaker A: Yeah, me too. When I'm on the podcast, I just want the Rodecaster to work. I want to be able to pick it up. [00:14:43] Speaker C: Just the Bluetooth. [00:14:44] Speaker A: It's the dream for the Bluetooth to function. Dennis Smith says drop your Nokia magnitude 3 earthquake. Yeah. [00:14:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:53] Speaker A: All right. Okay. The actual news. [00:14:57] Speaker B: The actual news. That was just the. The precursor. [00:15:00] Speaker C: Yeah, The. [00:15:01] Speaker B: The sampler, the entree. Let's get to the main course. Peak Design have launched. Well, they are launching four new travel bags, a couple of backpacks, and a couple of slings. And once again, they've gone straight to Kickstarter to fund the project or at least get some funds from the project and give back to their community. They've got a very strong Kickstarter community who back pretty much every product they, they put out. They've done it this way since day dot and it's working for them. Even though they're established brand, they're obviously selling a lot of product because you see them wherever you go. Even students buy their backpacks, their camera backpacks for, for school stuff. But they've just launched this new one. Four new bags in day one. They always already hit over a million US dollars. [00:15:45] Speaker A: That's insane. [00:15:47] Speaker C: Crazy. [00:15:48] Speaker B: Having a look at the tally right now they're at 2. Just over 2 million Australian dollars. [00:15:57] Speaker A: Oh, that's nothing. [00:15:58] Speaker B: And still got 24 days to go. [00:16:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Wow. [00:16:03] Speaker C: They make. [00:16:03] Speaker A: And so they do make good gear. [00:16:06] Speaker C: They're bags. Like I won't, I won't, I won't talk up their tripods, but their bags. [00:16:11] Speaker A: You don't like their tripods? [00:16:13] Speaker C: No, no. [00:16:14] Speaker A: Just not. Are they just too like more travel oriented? Okay. What am I trying to say? They're not professional enough. [00:16:24] Speaker C: They market them to hot like professional hobbyists and, and high end hobbyists and that's even their price point is that. But they're not, they're just simply not capable of holding like a full size mirrorless and pro lens, you know, which most people have that are buying these like I said all the time on workshops. They're just, you know, they're great if you've got like a, you know like a small all in one Sony or maybe even a really light mirrorless camera. But I don't think. [00:16:59] Speaker A: Is it the head that's the issue or is it the legs that just aren't. They're just not strong, not beefy enough. [00:17:06] Speaker C: It's just the mixture. They're not particularly stable. [00:17:09] Speaker A: Okay. [00:17:10] Speaker C: You know they do pack up really well and they have their advantages. [00:17:13] Speaker B: But that's what they were aiming for because you know all the original marketing materials. Look how small is. And it was you know, sliding into a bottle. [00:17:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:17:21] Speaker B: You know like a drink bottle pouch on your backpack. That's what they showed off the most brilliant engineering. [00:17:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh yeah. That's the, that's their like, yeah. Their big thing. Everything from the capture clip onwards and even you know, the camera strap connection system like there wasn't that, that style of thing didn't exist before they did it. You know, like it's everything they've done has been from a moving design forwards perspective. [00:17:53] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that like I use, I use one of their bags for my, the tote just for my general computer gear and hard drives and just odds and ends. I think it's a great, great bag for that. You can just grab it and go. And before that I had a messenger. Yeah, they're good gear. Good but great. [00:18:15] Speaker B: I like their little messengers. I think they were good. I use those for my Fuji kit originally. [00:18:19] Speaker C: Yeah, they don't one, they don't make one that hold that fits a 16 inch MacBook anymore though, don't they? In the, in the messenger bags? No, that's why I end up with a tote because they replaced one on warranty. That's the other thing. The warranty is amazing. It had all frayed and stuff and it was probably through use but they replaced it and Yeah, I couldn't get a messenger to fit the 16 inch MacBook. I had to get the tote. [00:18:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So they're these new bags. I'm trying to figure them out. It's a very complicated Kickstarter, but they're, they're, they're very much travel focused and while it looks like you can use them with camera cubes and stuff like that, they're not a camera bag. From what I can tell. They're more of just like. [00:19:05] Speaker B: It is good that they've considered that you can use their cubes if you want to. [00:19:09] Speaker A: It's all modular and. Yeah, like the. Yeah. So I'll bring this one up here. So like this is one of them with the medium camera cube in it. But like even the camera cube doesn't fit fill the space properly. So it's kind of like a. Which, which some would say like that's cool because you can put another little cube above it. But it's, it's the one thing I don't ever want in the way I use my camera bags is things to be jostling. Like it needs to fit. If it's got a cube or something in there, it needs to fit in perfectly. And ideally for me, I want it to be like stuck in there or like secured in there somehow. Like I don't want anything that you have to constantly be fiddling with, you know, to make sure it's in the right spot. But, but that's for a camera bag. Whereas for a travel bag being able to like plump different things in there and reconfigure it. They look really cool. [00:20:04] Speaker B: Yeah, they do look nice. Very cool. Anyway, just a couple of quick comments about it. Bruce Miles in the chat, people. G', day, Bruce. My bag has been going strong for what feels like a decade, but it's almost end of life. Oh. Here's a question you might be able to answer, Adam, given your experience with travel, on the lookout for a good travel bag. Are they waterproof or these ones do you, what, what sort of bag do you carry, Adam? [00:20:34] Speaker C: I use a Summit Creative for my backpack, my camera backpack, which has been around the world with me. I got one of the first ones the guys brought in, I think and yeah, that's an incredible bag, but I have a mixture. So I have like a peak design duffel type bag which is really super light, but I think it's about 30 liters. So often use that as my second carry on and I make it look lighter than it is. Put a 402.8 in it or something like that. It's pretty, pretty crazy. But yeah, like these, the, I guess the thing with the peak design ones, they're probably not particularly waterproof. [00:21:18] Speaker A: No, definitely not. [00:21:19] Speaker C: No. These Summit Creative ones are like, they're bomb proof. They're really good and they're really good value too. There's other brands that these guys probably took a lot of inspiration from, but the value for money is incredible. [00:21:36] Speaker A: So these wouldn't be, they wouldn't be waterproof. But it looks like all of the zippers are very much the water resistant zippers. Yeah. Shower proof. Exactly like and, and you can tell the material that they're using is water resistant material. It's not just going to soak in the water. [00:21:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:21:53] Speaker A: So yeah, this is probably by the, from the look of it, about as waterproof you can get until you go to an actual like dry bag or [00:22:01] Speaker C: something like that, you know, 100%. They come with a rain cover too. So. [00:22:05] Speaker B: Yes, I was going to say a lot of them do. [00:22:06] Speaker C: Now I've, I've had mine in, in full on rain and I've left it sitting on the side of a track in the rain. And like I've never had gear wet in it ever. And I don't. First thing I do with things like rain covers is chuck them in the cupboard. [00:22:23] Speaker A: 50 of them in me in my case over there. They never come in. Yeah, no, I, I don't use, I don't have time to put a rain cover on. Paul says my mind shift backlight 26 has been great. Over 10 years old and still rock solid. My mind shift stuff has been unreal. Yeah, absolutely unreal. Especially the rotation if you, if it fits your gear. But these look really good, these. So this the one I've got up on the screen The Moment Summit Creative 10. [00:22:49] Speaker C: That's exactly the bag I use except for I have the orange one is yours. [00:22:53] Speaker A: The 40 liter. [00:22:54] Speaker C: 40 liter? Yeah, yeah, it's a really good size. [00:22:57] Speaker A: They do. They do one above. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. They do 1 above but that would definitely get you into like it's huge and it's not going to get carry on ever. And if you fill it up, you'll be struggling to walk. [00:23:11] Speaker C: Yeah, not if you get measured. That's the thing. You know like I quite often I get lots of questions about taking gear overseas and you kind of just have to go with what you need and then if you get pulled up and weighed and you have to pay. Well, one flight out of. Yeah, dozens is pretty good value I think because I, I haven't paid for excess carry on but I don't know, I don't think I have in the last five years. Just make it look like. [00:23:43] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. You got to make it look light. It's got to act natural. [00:23:46] Speaker C: And don't fly Jetstar because they weigh it just. [00:23:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. [00:23:55] Speaker B: Let's move along to the next story. We are looking at a naked, naked Sony. What is it? A 600 millimeter GM lens. I thought this was just interesting. We have a quick peek of it and I have a comparison photo to another product I think it looks like. But can you bring that one up, Justin? I'm coming anytime you're ready, boss. [00:24:16] Speaker A: I'm going to make you run the back end. One day you'll be like, which button do I press? There it is. Got it. Okay, so this is what a lens looks like without any of the stuff. [00:24:30] Speaker B: Well, that lens in particular, it's a bit of a beast. [00:24:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:34] Speaker B: But let me just bring up this photo quickly. [00:24:37] Speaker A: Apparently you're a bit quiet, Greg. Oh, I'm gonna edit your mic settings. I'll sort this out. Unless that that might. It's all plugged in, you know, it's just you're a bit quiet. I'll crank you up a bit but maybe just go a little closer, you know, bring it up, get it in the beard. [00:24:55] Speaker B: Thanks, mate. So, yes, Paul says looks more like a jet engine and I found a comparison shot. Can we swap screens? I've loaded one there. Ready to rock. Justin, can you see it? [00:25:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I've got to take mine off to be able to do that for some reason. [00:25:10] Speaker B: These are SpaceX. They're fancy rockets. This is one of their engines. It looks like one of them. [00:25:15] Speaker A: Maybe that's how they do it. [00:25:17] Speaker B: They're raptors. [00:25:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:19] Speaker B: Yeah. There you go. Naked raptor. Naked Sony. Anyway, I thought that was funny, but that's just my humor. [00:25:24] Speaker C: Nearly the same price. [00:25:28] Speaker B: Very true. How much is a 600 gm worth? [00:25:33] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:25:34] Speaker C: Probably 16 or 17 grand. I think about the same price as my Nikon 600. [00:25:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:43] Speaker B: That's huge. Let's jump to the next article, boss. TD Artisans announces a new 17 millimeter tilt shift lens for Nikon. And I also saw it for Sony. What are you doing, boss? That's a camera base. [00:25:57] Speaker A: I switch it. [00:25:58] Speaker B: Okay. [00:25:59] Speaker A: I'm good. That was an ad these ads pop up on because you give me the rumors, you give me the rumor sites and they give me the ads. So they. They're terrible. And here we are. A tilt shift GFX Z rfl. Oh, interesting. Everyone can play with it. [00:26:19] Speaker B: They can anyway. [00:26:22] Speaker C: What a big lens. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it is big, isn't it? [00:26:25] Speaker C: It would have to be to do an image circle big enough for a gfx. [00:26:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:32] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:26:36] Speaker B: Dennis. [00:26:37] Speaker A: Yeah, It's a beast, isn't it? [00:26:38] Speaker B: Isn't exciting. [00:26:39] Speaker C: It is. [00:26:39] Speaker B: It's pretty cool. You have a lot of fun with something like that, [00:26:44] Speaker A: right? [00:26:44] Speaker B: Let's see how much. Prudo's never open at B and H. Let me just have a quick squeeze at the price. [00:26:52] Speaker A: Weighs about a kilo. [00:26:55] Speaker B: 550 US that's very tempting. [00:26:59] Speaker C: It's about 3,000 Australian dollars at the moment. [00:27:03] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:27:04] Speaker B: Plus shipping. [00:27:04] Speaker A: Plus shipping. Which will be going up with our fuel prices. [00:27:08] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:27:09] Speaker B: Day of oday gets more. [00:27:11] Speaker C: I'd be interesting to see for that. That's a pretty good price for a tilt shift lens historically. [00:27:17] Speaker A: I'll have to check on this. Greg Carrick says the GFX version doesn't tilt or shift or something. It's just so. [00:27:27] Speaker C: Just a 17 mil. [00:27:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I was going to say. Is that true or is he making a joke or is that true? The GFX thing doesn't. Something doesn't like it's got less functionality. Where is it? [00:27:39] Speaker B: They both have tilt shift ultra wide. [00:27:42] Speaker A: Yeah. It says it's got a larger image circle. Larger image circle than that of a medium format lens [00:27:51] Speaker B: maybe. Very cool either way. [00:27:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Super interesting. Okay, what else we got? I'll try and pull it up in a speedy pace. [00:28:05] Speaker B: Okay. Harman launches a Zoor, a kaleidoscopic film that switches the colors around. Given your current foray into film photography, I thought you'd find this interesting. [00:28:16] Speaker A: I saw that. [00:28:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:18] Speaker A: The headline I was like, what is that? What does this mean? It switches the colors around. [00:28:23] Speaker B: Yeah. And apparently even in post, depending on which scanner you use, you know, obviously after the film's been developed, it can change the colors as well. I was reading in the article. [00:28:35] Speaker A: Oh, here we go. [00:28:36] Speaker B: Look, a Fujifilm scanner. Will, what's that? [00:28:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, hang on, hang on, hang on. I'm looking at this. Why didn't you tell me it wasn't up? I'm like, look, look, a Fuji scan and then a Naruto scan. [00:28:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Different colors completely. Yeah, that's just the scanning process, which is really interesting. So, yeah. Bit of fun. Little cheeky. Cheeky little color play there. I don't think. I don't think I like it for portraits. I think it's a bit. I mean, it's interesting, it's artistic, but I think if anything, it'd be fun with landscapes just to see what it did. And architecture. [00:29:17] Speaker A: This article on Petapixel, that this film is perfect for someone. While my decision to bring Harmon's Switch Azure to a soccer game was, in hindsight, not my best idea, I can see this working at a music festival or something. Yeah, it's. It would be. Yeah, it is. It's. It's really interesting, but it's. You would have to experiment to see what it would work with. [00:29:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:46] Speaker A: Okay, cool. It's cool to see a new film coming out. [00:29:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Always, Always. [00:29:51] Speaker A: Good. [00:29:52] Speaker B: And the final little bit of news, we've spoken over the last couple of weeks about our friend Jeff Cable, who is an American photographer. His day job is photographing parties and bar mitzvahs in the San Francisco Bay area. But every two years, he's one of the official photographers for Team USA that goes to the Olympics. And we were talking about him over the last couple of weeks because he's been posting a lot and talking about gear and what cat. Because he's a cannon boy. But there's an article here that says that Canon loaned out over 3,000 cameras and lenses during the Winter Olympics. And I don't know who they learned probably to media. Yeah. [00:30:30] Speaker A: Well, to their CPS photographers, I assume. [00:30:34] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:30:35] Speaker B: And Jeff Cable gets another mention in this article because he took the photos. [00:30:41] Speaker C: That's why. [00:30:42] Speaker B: So, yeah, it's pretty cool. If you scroll down to the. There's a couple of photos of their shelving with cameras and lenses on it. And the. The wide angle one, which I'm pretty sure he shot on that new 177 to 14, just based on the distortion around the. Around the Edges. Amazing series of lenses there. Just ready to go. [00:31:07] Speaker C: Just a few bucks worth, you know. [00:31:08] Speaker B: Just a few. [00:31:09] Speaker A: Just a couple. Especially down in this bottom right hand corner. Yeah, yeah. That's where the money is. [00:31:15] Speaker B: They can't even fit on a shelf, they're so big. [00:31:17] Speaker A: No, just put it on the floor also. Just quietly. I've seen these shelves before. They're shit. Have you ever had one of these, These plastic shelves? They're plastic shelves with like, please, plastic legs. You should not put anything on those shelves, let alone all of that. They're the worst shelves anyone can buy. This is insane. I didn't even realize this till just then when I zoomed in. They're those. They're so horribly. They must have them like pinned to the wall or something because that's insane. [00:31:49] Speaker B: You reckon? [00:31:51] Speaker A: Unless there's some high end version. They're like the pelican case version of these shelves or whatever. But I've, I've used these shelves before and I was like, you couldn't. I think I had like garden stuff on in my shed in it. And I was like, I can't have this. It's gonna fall. [00:32:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:05] Speaker C: And even if it doesn't, when you first put it up because it's plastic, it's like the Leaning Tower. It just gets worse and worse. [00:32:12] Speaker A: Yeah. This is insane. All that, like with the lenses up the top and like camera bodies on the very top of these. I don't know, I'm gonna have to talk to someone at Canada about that. That's crazy. Maybe we can sponsor them some better shelving for the next Olympics just to help them out. They're obviously struggling. [00:32:33] Speaker B: Clearly. [00:32:34] Speaker A: Clearly. Did you see this one, Greg? Is that the end of your. [00:32:38] Speaker B: Is that the last one year segment? [00:32:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Did you see this? This is more. I thought this would be a bit up your, up your alley. The Yashika tank. [00:32:47] Speaker B: I didn't see that. When did that come out? [00:32:49] Speaker A: The hundred dollar Yashica tank compact camera is all about simple nostalgia. Look at this little thing. No. [00:32:58] Speaker B: Why not Yashika? Well, because Yashika released a few cameras over the last two years and every single one of them has had severe manufacturing problems like falling apart in your hands kind of stuff I would be very wary about. I mean, just because they're using the Nashi, the Yashika name, it doesn't mean that it's quality. [00:33:18] Speaker C: They just called it a tank just to stamp all ideas of whether it was. [00:33:24] Speaker A: What should we call this after all the problems we've had. Bulletproof Strong as Tank. [00:33:34] Speaker B: So yeah, I. I would be very clean about it is clean up. But I'd be very skeptical. Skip. Skip. I'd be very concerned about how it actually performs and what it's like in the street. Because I know PETA picks a bunch of videos out there about people reviewing them and they just pull it out of the box and it's instantly. There's parts left in the box. [00:33:52] Speaker A: So it's a. It's a. It's a 12 megapixel tiny little sensor. The company says that Tank sensor is tuned to preserve a nostalgic photographic character. That means they bought the smallest shitter sensor they could find and did nothing. But that's just how they work. [00:34:10] Speaker C: Leftover stock from all the compact cameras of 2000. [00:34:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:16] Speaker B: Just started fishing them out. [00:34:18] Speaker A: Photographers can select image resolutions of 12, 24 or 36 megapixel, although anything beyond 12 megapixel is obviously upscaled as Yashika has done with some of its other other previous cameras. So anyway, it's. I just think it's really, really nice looking for a little compact camera. I wouldn't call it a great point and shoot. [00:34:40] Speaker B: And we. There is. There is a demand for point and shoots. We've talked about this constantly throughout our Monday night shows where especially in Asian markets, point and shoots compact fixed lens and even into smaller interchangeable lens cameras are all the rage. [00:34:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:56] Speaker B: And this would certainly fit that bill. My concern for anyone out there who is listening. Hi. But yeah, I'd proceed with caution. [00:35:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:06] Speaker C: It's a hundred bucks. [00:35:08] Speaker A: It's a hundred bucks. Yeah. But Dennis says the Yashika Kickstarter was a brutal scam. Some very funny slash scary stories. Yeah, I forgot about that. [00:35:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:35:21] Speaker A: Wonder if it. Let's just. You know, sometimes I like to go to the comments and just see if anyone's commenting. Dimmer135 says. I wanted to suggest that let's not call these cameras Yashika out of respect for the historically significant and beloved brand. Seeing how much. Seeing how much space you give this scammer. Scammer comments are awesome. [00:35:49] Speaker B: They are. [00:35:52] Speaker A: Scammer. [00:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah. It's interesting. We'll see what happens. [00:35:54] Speaker A: Can I read a couple more? Yeah. Peter. Peter Hong says lipstick on a pig. [00:36:02] Speaker B: Oh. What does that mean? I don't know. [00:36:04] Speaker A: But someone's using our term. Unattornal says not another cosplay camera with below average phone sensor. Cosplay camera. Didn't we come up with that? [00:36:13] Speaker B: Pretty sure we need to make a T shirt then it's a. [00:36:14] Speaker A: It's getting around the Internet. Yeah, we'll trademark that. 100 bucks for a camera that takes worse pictures than about any phone. Yeah. So this is the big comeback, huh? Oh, this is great. We should do this. Should be a regular. Regular segment. Reading the comments on Petapixel. Oh, speaking of which, someone, David Leporati says, did you see the Pedapixel article? The disturbing report that says workers are watching private footage taken on Meta Smart glasses? Did you see that, either of you guys? [00:36:51] Speaker C: I did, but I heard something about it. But yeah, yeah. [00:36:55] Speaker A: As far as I could, I was aware it's something to do with like the. The monitoring or whatever. And it's. I don't know, like, but. But technically the glasses were off or like not recording, but the footage is still being relayed to some place to be reviewed or something. I'm not quite sure. I don't know. But if that's. Yeah. [00:37:19] Speaker C: If it is true when you ask it to. Because you can't record on them without the light being on. [00:37:26] Speaker A: That's right. [00:37:27] Speaker C: But when you ask it what you're looking at, that doesn't happen. [00:37:31] Speaker A: Exactly. And so I'm guessing these people are monitoring to see is something glitching, like, did they say, what's this? And. And the glasses were like, that's a cat. And they were actually looking at like a car or something. So are they. Is that their job? A human who's, like, verifying that it's working correctly? Maybe meanwhile they're watching someone, apparently. I think someone was having sex wearing their glasses. That's the word on the street. Oh. I mean, the glasses were off, but maybe they just thought they looked cooler or they were periodically pressing record and not recording. [00:38:06] Speaker C: I was gonna say [00:38:09] Speaker A: a bit of filming. [00:38:10] Speaker B: Or maybe it was like the guys. [00:38:11] Speaker A: I just want to test him out, mate. [00:38:13] Speaker B: I just want to test him out. [00:38:13] Speaker A: Yeah, no, don't worry about it. [00:38:14] Speaker B: It's not on. It's not on. [00:38:16] Speaker A: What's that green light mean? The green light means it's off. It's. [00:38:21] Speaker C: Yeah, it's not streaming. [00:38:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Oh, gosh. Yeah, it is very. It is very scary. David says. Yeah. Monitoring the footage. Yeah, it was something like that, but it's. It's. I swear they're not recording. It's going to be a huge issue as the wearables become more. Yeah, people. People are going to want to know for sure. There needs to be like a plastic, like, lens cap or something that you push down when you're not. When you don't want them creeping on you. But, gosh, there was those. That also happened with the robot vacuums, didn't it? [00:39:01] Speaker B: Yeah, they. [00:39:03] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:39:04] Speaker B: They're recording everything in the house. [00:39:05] Speaker A: Yeah. And it was getting, like, stored or something like that. Yeah, yeah. [00:39:10] Speaker B: And didn't we. What didn't we bring up. This was early days of Me on the podcast, but didn't we bring up a story about how one guy hacked into. Just from like, sitting in the bus stop outside, he was able to hack into the person's robot vacuum cleaner and watch everything they were doing? Like, he showed how easy it was to hack into this particular. Because. And, you know, they're not all going to be DJI DJI ones, are they? They're not all going to be great. There's going to be a whole range of. From Temu and Alibaba right up to dgi. [00:39:41] Speaker C: Yep. [00:39:42] Speaker B: And people are hacking them and because they've got cameras on board and sensors. [00:39:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:46] Speaker C: People were, like, using them to spy on their. On their partners and also. [00:39:50] Speaker A: Really? [00:39:51] Speaker C: Yeah. I read articles like, helping some guy, like, in his controlling, coercively controlling relationship. [00:39:59] Speaker A: Like, because with a robot vacuum cleaner, [00:40:03] Speaker C: what his partner was up to during the day. Yeah. [00:40:07] Speaker A: Oh, that's so dodgy. And she's just thinking, oh, yeah, it's just. Oh, it's cleaning the living room again. Wow. Yeah, it's really. It's really doing a good job today. Keeps following me. Oh, my. That's scary. [00:40:20] Speaker C: Yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty wild. [00:40:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Paul seems to know all about it. That's concerning. Says, yeah, you can hack the vacuums using WI fi from outside the property. They're like modems. People don't change the default passwords. Ah, I see. [00:40:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:40] Speaker A: And David says apparently a guy using a PlayStation remote accidentally accessed 5,000 robot vacuum units around the world. Yeah. Wow. Hey. Oh, dear. I don't know. [00:40:54] Speaker B: It's crazy stuff. We'll keep an eye on it for you. Just before we wrap up the News 5 videos, I encourage everyone to go out and watch. Apart from ours, of course. There's hundreds of them. But first, first and foremost, Adam Edwards has just released Ranked Five Safari Park. I ranked five safari parks. Not me. Adam did. I ranked five safari parks in Kenya photography. That's only a few days old, isn't it, mate? [00:41:19] Speaker C: Yeah, four days old. Yeah. It's kind of the culmination of all the other episodes. So, you know, you can go back and watch them. It's been really popular. [00:41:29] Speaker A: So I like the thumbnail on that newest video. I haven't had a chance to watch it yet over the weekend, but yeah, the thumbnail grabbed my attention. Yeah, I thought, I thought it might be, but it had the left. Right. Like two different color thing and stuff. But it's, you know, if it works, if it gets people. [00:41:43] Speaker C: I mean, I've. I've been enjoying toying with that part of YouTube and, and all of that stuff, you know, just like, what. What will get people's attention, but then obviously then holding the attention, you know. Yeah, yeah, because if you just got good thumbnails and you clickbait people, you, you don't achieve anything. But no, yeah, I've really been enjoying that. And just some of the amazing conversations that have come off the back of. Of that, you know, feels a bit more hearty than the other social media platforms at the moment. [00:42:17] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that's good. Well, I mean, at least with YouTube you have complete control. [00:42:22] Speaker C: Yes. [00:42:23] Speaker B: Of the message that you send out, how you're sending it, when, where, and how people can view it and people can find it easily enough, Whereas other social media. Well, let's face it, Instagram is terrible. You know, I. I rarely see images from my community, you know. [00:42:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:40] Speaker B: Crazy what it keeps feeding me. And I keep retraining. We talked about this last week too. Keep retraining it, you know, and it just keeps pumping me full of America political content. It's like, come on, gotta be a better way. [00:42:51] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, it's just, it's one of the. I think when I was on my way over to Iceland, I was on one of the lives and Dennis and I were talking about it in the chat. Like, the way I see it is, is just keep it as simple as Instagram and YouTube. Right. Instagram's meant to be the platform that was always based around photography. What's happened is they've just seen dollar signs and they want views and, and the reason they want views is so they can sell advertising. And what happens is like the average view time for a photo on Instagram's like one point something seconds. [00:43:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:31] Speaker C: So you can go out, you can spend hours in the field to wait for the light to take the photo, then hours editing your image and then put it up on Instagram and someone's gonna see it for less than two seconds. [00:43:44] Speaker A: Yeah. And then, and then we'll go back and we'll be like, oh, it didn't get as many likes as my last image. Maybe I do need to buy a gfx because we're just, you know, maybe that will be the difference that will capture someone's attention and then downscale it to fit on a phone screen and they'll watch it for 1.6 seconds. But we sometimes somehow convince ourselves that our gear is not, not quite good enough. [00:44:10] Speaker C: That's it. It's, it's a crazy world we live in. And like, yeah, I think we've spoke about it when I, when we did the interview. But that's why like, I'm pushing into doing video stuff, because if someone decides to watch a video, it's not about the video. They come and choose to watch what you've got to say. And a lot of the time that's just about the photos or people are going to spend the time because they've committed to watch it and not just flick past it like, you know, and miss it or not get shown it. [00:44:41] Speaker A: I think the other thing with YouTube is there's, there's a takeaway usually for the viewer of some sort. Like if so with your videos, obviously they're going to get educated on hopefully being able to do their own great African safari trip one day. There's a, there's a full takeaway with that, plus some entertainment, plus see some cool photos. But even with like Nick Carver that we had on, who, who does a lot of like come and shoot with me videos where he's not, you know, he's not, you're not sort of gonna go and shoot that same subject or something like that, but you still take away, usually take away something from his journey to shoot that photograph. Whereas just seeing the photograph on Instagram, maybe with a caption or something, you don't get like a, as a viewer, you're not sort of coming away with an experience or more information or, you know, it's, it's. And the photos are just not displayed big enough for you to really appreciate them for what they are. It's just. Yeah, I don't know this. [00:45:40] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:45:41] Speaker B: For me, Instagram has just become like a social media version of a baby rattle, a distraction because just this whole doom scroll thing that, you know, I call it that too. And I watched, I watched the, the behavior of the kids here in the house with me and Sash. And they'll get home from school over stimulated and they'll just disappear, just doom scrolling for two hours. You know, it's almost like a soothing, a self soothing mechanism. It's not really like what Adam said. It's not really what it was set out to achieve. No, it's become something much, much Worse. So anyway, sorry, the five videos. So yes, Adam Edwards is obviously the first. Completely. All right, I don't want to happen there. I just came to. Brett Wood has put out another video last week, how to edit Waterfalls, which is really cool for any of you folks. And yeah, get out and love to shoot waterfalls. I know Lisa Leach loves a waterfall. Definitely worth a look. Crackers. Greg Carrick, he's putting out a series on YouTube called Photography show and Tell. I think, Greg, I think you're up to three now, maybe four. Can't remember, but go check out Greg Carrick's channel. Pete Mallows has been doing some phenomenal concert photography. Of course Pete's in Tassie, we won't hold that against him. But he's been doing some point of view music festival photography and he's loving it. I've been having a chat with him along the way and he's really invested in that, which is amazing. And he has recently upgraded his gear, so there's that too. And finally, Julie Powell, friend of the show. She continues to dominate YouTube. She's putting out three or four videos a week. Crazy how she finds it's a mat. But it's all really down to earth. It's a lot of work, but it's all down to earth, you know, really informative and it just makes it feel, you know what Julie's like. It just makes it feel like you're being guided softly along through a process and I think that's wonderful. So well done, Julie. Well done everyone for continuing to create content on an ongoing basis. I'm sure it is, as we find here. It can be hard work. [00:47:46] Speaker A: That's easy when you don't have to do anything. Yeah, exactly. All right, quickly, before we finish on the news and get into Iceland, someone said, here we go. Okay, first couple of things. Paul said discovered a PBS channel called Outside beyond the Lens, a fantastic two part series on photographers climbing mountains in California to snap fighter jets as they zip through the valley below. And it sounds like that is approved by the David Leporati, so probably great viewing. Yeah, if you can track it down. Sounds like. Is that on YouTube or is it on a PBS channel? [00:48:23] Speaker B: Do we have PBS in Australia? Do we get that on our streaming platforms? I didn't think so. It's like their abc, isn't it? [00:48:31] Speaker C: Some of those you can pay for on Amazon. [00:48:34] Speaker A: Yeah, there's a little bit of. Paul says Instagram is a write off. I'm starting to refresh my Flickr account and Craig Murphy says, yay for Flickr. Did you see this? Hang on. Flickr announces three day immersive in person photo festival this year called Mode. Flickr are running a three day festival September 18th to 20th, 2026 in Minneapolis, Minnesota in the US it's a citywide gathering to bring photographers out from behind their screens into shared physical spaces for workshops, exhibitions, photo walks and live music. Yeah, I just thought that was very interesting that Flickr is, I don't know, are they going to try and do this in more space around the world? Are they going to try and re revamp Flickr and bring it from what it is now, which is. I don't know what it is now, but back to the front of photographers minds somehow or I don't know. [00:49:34] Speaker B: Well, I hope it's that they're hearing the cries of photographers over platforms like Instagram that it's just, it's not like we've always. Well, like I've said a few times, I went, you know, we work for it now. It doesn't work for us. We're feeding its algorithms with our eyes and, and you know, advertising and all that stuff. And I'm not against companies doing advertising. We do it at Lucky Straps. It's, you know, it's, it's a core part of running a business. But the stuff on Instagram just feels, you know, invasive. The level of it. [00:50:10] Speaker C: Agree. And the fact that in the wheel. [00:50:13] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. And you know, if you don't keep your eye on it and keep training it with the sort of content you want to see, it just starts showing you whatever it thinks you want to see because of your demographics. [00:50:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:25] Speaker B: Anyway, that's enough about that. [00:50:27] Speaker A: Okay, we'll move on quickly. First PBS YouTube channel. Okay, so we can get on YouTube. Perfect. Beautiful. All right, let's move on to. Tell us about Iceland. [00:50:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:45] Speaker A: What was it like? Was it icy? [00:50:47] Speaker B: Just tell us about everything. [00:50:50] Speaker C: How long have you got? [00:50:51] Speaker B: Well, let's set the scene first, Adam. So you hadn't been to Iceland before? [00:50:56] Speaker C: Nope. [00:50:57] Speaker B: This was your first time to Iceland just for your own reasons. But also you ran a, you ran a workshop and a tour to Iceland. [00:51:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:05] Speaker B: Pretty ballsy. [00:51:08] Speaker C: Yeah, like it kind of come out of a few of my clients that have done all of my workshops, had sort of said, you know, we'd love to do this and one thing led to another and then I started planning a workshop to Iceland. It was phenomenal. Like the, the key though really was that, you know, I was a partner for the guys that did the trip and I employed A local guard to, to run the trip, you know, that had the local knowledge and, you know, he's also a really great photographer. And so the, the six guys that come along end up with two, two instructors. And it just worked out amazing. Like, honestly, it was, it was cool. And I guess I actively chose winter because not too many people do that. Like, everyone wants to go and see all the green and the waterfalls and the midnight sun or the, you know, those kinds of things. But yeah, for me, a lot of my experience is about trying not to do the common things. You know, whether it's here in Broken Hill or whether it's anywhere, really, it's. It's about trying to offer people an experience that isn't an off the shelf. You know, you can go do it with any one thing. So, yeah, and it worked out like, phenomenal. But, you know, I reflected it was probably two years in the planning when I first started having conversations with the, with the guide. [00:52:41] Speaker B: Yep, very cool. Yeah, I certainly agree with that. The way that you approach your craft and looking for delivering something unique for your clients. And if people go back and watch the, the Kenya series that you've just recently wrapped up, that that's evident because you talk about what to avoid and what you guys did with your groups when you were out in the field to deliver that unusual or that exciting and, you know, authentic kind of experience without having to do with crowds or, you know, competing tour groups and all that sort of stuff. [00:53:19] Speaker C: I think it's. [00:53:20] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a really refreshing approach rather than just doing the, the trope of, oh, we go to this park and then we go to that park and, you know, you really mix it up, which is great. [00:53:29] Speaker C: If you want to go to Iceland, do all the popular things, right. You just need to do your research. Like, a lot of those popular things that you see a lot of are all very accessible. You don't need a special guide to take you there. You don't need, you know, someone with local knowledge. Like, if you want to go to diamond beach, you just put it into Google Maps and rock up with the other 400 people. Like, we still went to that, but we spent eight days before we even got there in the north of Iceland on farm stays and went to a little harbor town as far north on the mainland as you could go. [00:54:10] Speaker B: Wow. [00:54:10] Speaker C: Shot buildings. Like just we, we really aimed, we really wanted to do the things that people don't just do. And for the most of the trip, we hardly had tourists at all until the last few days when we got down to that busy south coast area. Yeah. [00:54:27] Speaker A: So. So because that, that's been the common thing is that, that, that it was this insanely beautiful place, kind of a dream location. But over the past, I guess decade, maybe 15 years, it's gone from of this far flung destination to millions of tourists everywhere. So busy that people feel like it's not quite as, I don't know, majestic as what they were expecting. But. But is that because they're just going to the close by easy sort of hotspots and not venturing further out like you did? [00:55:06] Speaker C: 100%. We went to places that were just incredibly beautiful and there were times where if you look absolutely as hard as you could, you might have been able to see 10 other people. Like. [00:55:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:20] Speaker C: You know that doesn't happen in those busy places. Like the car park at the glacial lagoon can probably hold a hundred cars and when we were there, there were a hundred cars there. [00:55:32] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. Like. [00:55:35] Speaker C: Yeah. And, and you know, it is completely different based on what you do. Yeah. [00:55:42] Speaker A: Which is, which is no different to like New Zealand. The, the tourist trail on New Zealand. New Zealand. It burnt us out a little bit when we were there and we had to start just driving down side roads looking for, for to find local like towns that did that weren't part of that. You know, sort of through. When you drive from Christchurch down to Queenstown on that main tourist road and get close to like Mount Cook and everything, it's pretty, it can get a bit. You feel like you're not out in nature. You just feel like you're going from gift shop to gift shop, car park to car. Exactly. Car park to car park is a better example of it. [00:56:29] Speaker C: So same thing. [00:56:30] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:56:31] Speaker C: Not on the same scale. I would say it's busy there, but it's not like Iceland. It is a whole level of busy of busy. [00:56:40] Speaker A: Really. [00:56:41] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And we were there in off peak too, you know, like complete, completely off peak. But there's always, if you put the effort in or sometimes the money, sadly you can still have really unique experiences. Like we did a ice cave experience where we were the only people at the ice cave for two hours. Whereas the other commercial ice caves were operating like single file walk through, you know. [00:57:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:10] Speaker C: Like completely different experience. But ours probably cost like, I don't know how much more. I'd hate to work it out. [00:57:17] Speaker B: But it was a premium. [00:57:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:57:18] Speaker B: If you want a premium experience that's above the normal, then it's a premium rate. It's, you know. [00:57:24] Speaker C: Yeah. We chop it in and chop it out, like. Yeah, it was. It was pretty special. Like the whole thing was really special. [00:57:32] Speaker B: I've got a question about your experience. Let's put your guests aside just for a moment. What was your first impression? You know, you're a boy from Broken Hill. You used to hot, dusty, red sanded areas and you land in Reykjavik, I assume. Yeah, presume. What was your experience getting out of that airport? [00:57:55] Speaker C: Probably not as shocking as it could have been if I hadn't done a lot of travel in. In Scandinavia in the past. Like the company that I used to work for, I spent a fair bit of time in Sweden. Similar climate, you know, similar sort of culture and, and things. I just love those things though. Right. Just being completely gobsmacked by whatever it may be, good, bad or indifferent. It's like this adventure waiting to happen. And yeah, it was incredible, like, but it felt really familiar for like someone who. I spent a lot of time in Sweden particularly. Yeah, the city and everything felt exactly the same. It was crazy. Like everything felt really the same. But the thing that probably blew me away at the end of the trip, I sat and thought, well, there wasn't one time through the whole trip where I saw dirt. And it sounds crazy, but, like, because it's all volcanic, it's either black rock or black sand. That's it. [00:59:01] Speaker A: Yeah, right. [00:59:02] Speaker C: There's no. Nothing's brown unless it's oxidation. And you see the high, you know, the photos of the high country and it's got all those beautiful colors in it, but as a general thing, walking around, it's either black sand or black rock or moss. It's like there's really, really stark contrast to here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:59:22] Speaker B: Really cool. Alien to what you used to. [00:59:24] Speaker C: Oh, hugely. Like. Yeah. So different. [00:59:29] Speaker B: Jay, can we bring up Adam's images? Can we do that now? [00:59:32] Speaker A: Got them ready to go. [00:59:35] Speaker B: I want to start with the. The Aurora shot, if you don't mind. [00:59:38] Speaker A: Well, I thought we'd save that to the. No. Okay, whatever you want. [00:59:41] Speaker B: No, no. What do you want to do? [00:59:47] Speaker A: I'm kidding. It's just. It's so epic. I don't know if we want to. Do we want it? Well, all right, you tell. Tell us, Adam, what image? [00:59:56] Speaker C: Genuinely, what order? Everything we saw was incredible. [01:00:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:01] Speaker C: So this image is like a panorama from my drone. [01:00:07] Speaker A: It. [01:00:08] Speaker C: We didn't fly the drone for like a couple of us had drones. We didn't fly the drone for about 80 of the trip because it was too cold and too humid and you don't Fly drones when it's cold and humid because ice builds up on the blades and they just drop out of the sky. [01:00:22] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [01:00:23] Speaker C: So. So we weren't doing that nari. But it was only really the last few days that it got warm enough and I felt comfortable flying the drone, so. And my. My drone was brand new. I got a Mavic 4 Pro before I left, which is nice. Phenomenal. And. And this. This image is like a 280 megapixel panorama because that thing does 100 megapixel quad Bayer special stuff, I think. Yeah. Which is. Is wild. So every time I open it, like, my computer hates me. And it wasn't the intent. I should have. I should have changed the file size just back to the normal size. But it's like, it's so hard to describe the scale of these places. Like from where the drone is to the top of that mountain's probably like five kilometers. Those crevices in the glacier are not. Are not one meter deep. They're like eight to ten meters deep. Yeah. [01:01:32] Speaker A: The. [01:01:33] Speaker C: The scale of the place is just unbelievable. [01:01:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:37] Speaker C: And being in winter, the ice is that really vivid blue. And this is just the info from the guide. The ice is that really vivid blue because the colder the ice is, the more dense it is. And the more dense it is, the more red light that it doesn't reflect or blocks out. And that's why the. The ice appears so blue in winter. Yeah. It's just an amazing place. Like mine. Mind blowing. So the couple of really good drone flights I had were at glacier tongues. Like, that's what they call these, but glacier tongues, they're actually all fed by the same glacier, which is Vatna Glacier. And that glacier covers roughly 8% of Iceland. If you look at a satellite image of Iceland, there's a big white patch. And that one Glacier covers about 8% of Iceland, which is crazy. Yeah. [01:02:35] Speaker A: Yeah. That's nuts. Yeah. [01:02:37] Speaker C: It's a kilometer deep. The ice in some places. [01:02:41] Speaker B: Well, [01:02:43] Speaker C: yeah. Incredible. But I love these drone panoramas. [01:02:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:49] Speaker C: This one was from a little early excursion that I did with a couple of clients. We. This seems to happen every time I plan a trip overseas. It's like I'll plan to fly in a day or two early and relax. But we always tend to. To plan something in. So one of the guys on the trip wanted to do a helicopter flight, and then one thing led to another, and I spoke to our guide and he recommended this heli company to take us over, like, the river outlets and in some of these would be the braided rivers that you see lots of photographs of in. Of Iceland. But because it was so cold, we got this really cool, like, mixture of ice and dead grass, which is the orangey color and the blue water. And this is out. Out hanging out out of a helicopter with no doors on it. So it was just stupid. [01:03:43] Speaker B: Oh, I bet that was kind of. [01:03:44] Speaker C: Yeah, that's my memory from this, like 90 minutes of pain for like, like a really good handful of good quality photos. But I really love this one. I love the. The patterns in this is just beautiful. I'm gonna print some metal for home. [01:04:02] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Hey, speaking of hanging out of helicopters, Jason Rogers asked this question a little while back, but how did the gear hold up in that sort of cold? But did you notice any issues with you? [01:04:14] Speaker C: No, surprisingly well. We went. I mean, we were there. I was in. On the ground there for about 14 days and it didn't go above zero till the day I left at all. But there was times where we were in minus 20, give or take. And I had like ice on my eyebrows. And my gear was phenomenal. I don't know why. I'm. Well, no, I do know why. When I go out on a workshop, like, I do take images, and it's either for one of two reasons. Like, in this instance, it's crazy and it's amazing and I want to get a couple of shots. A lot of the time I set my camera up so I can work out what everyone else needs to do, and particularly on a trip like this. So there's actually a shot in here of the waterfall that, that I'm thinking about. But we went to this waterfall. It's called Goddafoss. Incredible. And we were there for a couple of hours in and it was minus 18, 20 there. I look back at my photos. I've only got about 10 photos from that. And. And I know the clients have many, many more, but I'm like, I'm really good with battery when I'm out in the field, because even when I'm shooting by myself, I. Yeah, that's it there. [01:05:38] Speaker A: Hold on. [01:05:41] Speaker C: Even when I'm out in the field by myself, like, I shoot a bit more like I'm shooting film. I don't. I don't burn batteries particularly. But what I would say without putting on my Nikon hat is the modern Nikon cameras are really good with battery, like, surprisingly well. I. I didn't change my battery at all. I just charged them every night and I had plenty of spares. Yeah, but the gear was fine, no problems at all. It was amazing. But yeah, this is, this waterfall is called Godifos Waterfall of the Gods. We were there probably with 20 other people max. Like really, really unique experience. Yeah, it was snowing on and off. It was stupid cold. And then we got that beautiful little blush of setting sunlight which really changed the whole thing. And we could see it was going to happen and we sat and waited for it. But yeah, scenes like this are just everywhere. That's the thing, you know, like you just. [01:06:48] Speaker A: Yeah, this is beautiful. I, I would be if, if I could go to Iceland and find things like this. Even if you've got to brave the cold in winter to do it. But where there's not yet 100 cars in the car park kind of thing. This, this is, this is a dream. This photo. As soon as I saw this photo when you sent them through, I was like, holy crap. I, I don't think I've seen a photo like this from Iceland personally, because I don't, I don't go hunting for lots of it. But it's not one of those shots that you see pop up on social media when someone goes to Iceland. You know what I mean? [01:07:21] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure. And, and it's because it's not particularly easy to get to this time of year. Like this is fairly far in the north of Iceland. There's not heaps of obvious things around it. Like you really need a local to, to be dragging you around, taking you to the cool places. And there wasn't a single other photographer there. It was just tourists while we were shooting. Sunset. Yeah. And it was beautiful. [01:07:51] Speaker A: Did you guys, did you need to have one of those giant cars with the giant wheels to get around to this sort of stuff or was it just a regular four wheel drive? [01:07:58] Speaker C: If you knew what you're doing, you'd be fine in a normal car. But our guide has like one of those massive like Ford if It's like an F350 but it's a van, that's an E350 and a Connor line. [01:08:09] Speaker A: Oh sweet. [01:08:10] Speaker C: It's got like 38 inch tires on it and like a 10 inch. [01:08:13] Speaker A: That is awesome. [01:08:16] Speaker C: Really cool. Yeah, it was so good. And we put lots of fuel in it, man. Like it's like, yeah, every, it's like, do we need fuel? Yeah, we always need fuel. [01:08:28] Speaker A: Always. [01:08:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:31] Speaker C: But that was, you know, that, that was just peace of mind. You're with a local who's been in those conditions his whole life. Because a lot of these roads where we were here don't get cleared regularly, so some of these roads, you were driving an hour or so on snow, like it hadn't been cleared. You were just on the. On the snow. So to have a local. But we've, you know, a vehicle completely capable of it was. Was peace of mind. There wasn't once where anyone felt a bit sketchy. Yep, yep. [01:09:06] Speaker A: It's amazing. [01:09:07] Speaker B: To another image, Jay. [01:09:09] Speaker A: All right, well, let's go to. Actually, let's just go across. Let's go to the ones that I missed. [01:09:19] Speaker C: Yeah. Another, like, beautiful. This. This one was Barna Foss, which is. Translates to Children's Falls. And it was like every winter wonderland you could ever even imagine all in one place. Like, it was incredible. Yeah, you like, this area where we were here was only 100 meters from a completely different part of the falls, and that one was called Lava Falls. And the Images from those two places, like 100 meters apart, you. You wouldn't even think they were taken on the same day, let alone 10 minutes from one to the other. Even doodling with your camera, you know, which is one of the takeaways that I got from Iceland is, like, from one day you could get photos that you could tell people you took. Over the space of a year, the conditions change so quickly. The light changes so quickly. The landscape and subjects are also different. And sometimes you look back at your images from just one stop and you're like, wow, they don't even look like the same place. And this particular angle of this waterfall, you were kind of looking to the north, if that's right. Yeah, it must be to the north. So this. This never got sun. Right. That's why it's so cold and icy and. And in at that time of the year, the ice just grows every day. Whereas the other waterfall 100 meters back got daytime sun, and it's clean rocks and blue water and just completely different look. So, yeah, this. This was probably one of my favorite spots for the whole trip, just purely because of how easy it was to shoot. Like, this is just on the tripod on a bridge that goes over this little thing. You don't have to think heaps hard about it. You just get to take beautiful photos and watch. [01:11:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:33] Speaker C: Yeah. Really, really pretty. Yeah, the water's so blue. That's just. Yeah, it's crazy when you think back to it. [01:11:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:44] Speaker C: This is another one that I doubt you'll see a photo of. Like, it's another little town that, you know, our guide just took us to on a bit of a let's see what we find. Tour for the day. And I saw that church from afar and I was like, we've got to shoot that because it's all corrugated iron and it's rusty and it almost feels like it should be here in the outback. Yeah, it's, it's so it doesn't look like it should be where it is. Yeah. And we stopped for like a half an hour and just worked it so I kind of could see that the better shot was going to be as far back as we could be without. There's actually a roof just below the horizon line behind the church. So, like, any further back you got enough elevation, you can see this roof of this other building. So it took a bit of walking back and forth to work out where the spot was where you could make it look just like there was a church there and nothing else. And this was at like 11 or 12 in the afternoon because the light is just so beautiful there all day in winter because it never really gets to too high in the sky. So. Yeah, and I just love it. It's exactly like I would love to shoot any image and I love sort of that play on the light from the right of the frame and the contrast between the warm and the cool colors. It's, you know, you can probably find 50 of my photos in my, in my Instagram feed that have that similar color palette and similar play online. Just, it's beautiful. But none of them have mountains in the background like that. [01:13:31] Speaker A: Yeah, that scene is just. Yeah, it looks made up. [01:13:36] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, and I haven't removed anything from that photo, so I think that's often the trick you have to fall into. And after being to a few places that are popular in Iceland, you know, and you see some photos like, oh, that's now obvious. People are taking things out like, you know, which is completely okay. [01:13:57] Speaker A: It, it's okay. But I, I, it's so much cooler when you can, like you say you work the scene to, to get the shot you want rather than just thinking, oh, I'll just get rid of that later. [01:14:07] Speaker C: Yeah, 100%. There was a really cool cemetery off to the right where we got some cool shots and explored and just a. Yeah, really awesome, awesome little, just seaside town. We didn't see another car come into the town or anything the whole time we were there. [01:14:24] Speaker A: Greg Carrick says these should get more than 1.6 seconds on Insta. Yeah, you might even crack two seconds with these. These are good [01:14:34] Speaker C: if anyone sees them. [01:14:37] Speaker A: Yeah, these are amazing. Let's I want to see. I haven't looked at this one yet. [01:14:41] Speaker B: What is this? [01:14:43] Speaker C: This is my little internal sort of joke, is that sometimes you go to places and in this instance, we went all the way to Iceland to photograph petrol pump. [01:14:56] Speaker A: I love this shot. Me too. This is the sort of stuff that really gets me. And this used to happen when we were driving around Japan and stuff as well, where you. In the winter and you just see something that's just so different to your normal life and it looks. Yeah, I love it. [01:15:13] Speaker C: I took that photo after we pulled up in the car park of the hotel. The hotel was about 20 meters over my back left shoulder with literally as we were getting out of the car. I thought, that looks really cool. We just got back from sunset and. Yeah, I just. There's something about it. That balance of the blue light, because the blue light there at that time of night's insane. And just the way that the. The floodlight spreads out onto the snow, it just looks like it's made up. Like it looks like it's a movie set, not a photography. A photo. [01:15:48] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. That's what it looks like. [01:15:51] Speaker C: Yeah, like the. The. The villains about to drive through or something. Like, it feels very noir, like. Yeah, it's. It feels set up. [01:16:02] Speaker A: It does, but it's not. [01:16:03] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, I just love it. [01:16:09] Speaker A: Ernesto Creativo. Good to see you. Haven't seen you for a while. Says, hi, guys from Germany. Incredible pictures. They are indeed incredible. And Jason Rogers would like to know what lens you were using for these landscapes. [01:16:22] Speaker C: Almost all of These shots were 24 to 70. It almost become a bit of a joke in the bus when we'd stop. Like, what lens do we put on 24 to 70? [01:16:38] Speaker A: But [01:16:41] Speaker C: it's probably the place that. That's worked for me more than anywhere I've ever traveled with a camera kit. Because in a lot of instances any wider than 24, you can't get close enough to your subject or, you know, the places where you might use it on the beach or something. You don't want to be that close to the water. It's their beaches and their surf's pretty wild. And you actually tend to find that you're sort of around 35 to 50 mil for heaps of stuff. Yeah, it just seems like this sort of sweet spot for. For the place. So, yeah, a lot of stuff's just might nick on 2470. A 24 to 2, 24 to 120 would be even better. [01:17:28] Speaker A: I was Gonna say that especially if you like, if you're shooting mostly landscapes and then you'd probably just need something to cover your dream aurora night or something. Maybe a wide angle that's a bit faster. But yeah, as a walk around lens, a 24 to 120F4 would probably be perfect. [01:17:45] Speaker C: Yeah. But it would do 90% of the whole trip. If not more. Yeah, if not more. This shot's a multi shot pano and I do this a bit with landscapes like this because I didn't want to lose the size of the mountains in compression, but I wanted the field of view. So a lot of the time it's almost like grabbing a gfx. Right is you can use a longer focal length but get a bigger field of view. So in this instance, I shot a vertical pano at a longer focal length and it still give me the field of view to the end of the mountains on the left and the house on the right. But it also give me the compression for the mountain to give it the scale. Yeah, but this is just a random spot on the side of the road. Like I'd love to say it was this famous place, but our guide's like, oh, there's a cool red house up here somewhere. And then we pull up and the light was incredible. And yeah, just it is this so [01:18:51] Speaker A: close to the side of the road and you so perfectly wanted the mountains in, in the frame the way that you've done in the bottom left of the frame. Is that this the beginning of the side of the road, like building up? Like, is it that close to the road? [01:19:05] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. I'm on the, I'm on the asphalt taking that photo. [01:19:09] Speaker A: That's awesome. [01:19:10] Speaker C: Yeah, like literally on the asphalt taking that photo. It's. Yeah. I would like the bit more room but, but like I think the, the real version of this has a little bit more room left and right. It's a bit more panoramic than the crop that I sent you guys. But like you can't beat beautiful light. Right. And you just look at the way the light is just kissing the mountain. And you know, this side of the building's in shade and the, the escarpment up top has all that texture because the light's hitting it. It's almost backlit from, from that angle. It's just beautiful. [01:19:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:51] Speaker A: But nothing's blown out. You haven't had to drastically try and control everything or whatever. It's just, it's just nice. [01:19:57] Speaker C: It's just that beautiful. Perfect. You know, you could have got A JPEG out camera. Like this kind of line. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:20:06] Speaker A: Just really on film. [01:20:08] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah. No it's, it was beautiful. And, and just I love these things that are just a building or a place that nobody knows because I love this shot. [01:20:20] Speaker B: This is my favorite shot. [01:20:22] Speaker C: Yeah, this, this, this was about maybe an hour, half an hour down the road from that last shot. So that really famous mountain with the aurora behind it that we'll look at when we get there is called Vestrahorn. And people who know Iceland. No, Vestrahorn. It's just, it's the most incredible looking and shaped mountain. And, and, and the, the translation is West Horn really for that. And, and that's the west horn of the bay. This is East Horn. So this is actually just on the other side of that big bay that they both sit on. And yeah, we like, we come around the corner and the guard's like do we want to stop for this? I'm like damn, yeah, we're going to stop for this. Like I could just see this photo. The sun had just set and you can sort of see there's the very last bit of sort of alpen light on the very middle mountain right in the back. Just that very last bit of light. And then you know the reflection of the barn or the, the farm in that frozen lake. And that just gives it all scale too. [01:21:35] Speaker A: The scale. It looks so tiny tucked into that rain. That's crazy. [01:21:41] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, they have some pretty good property in Iceland. Hey like there's places you think, oh yeah, I could probably live there. [01:21:48] Speaker A: It's, that's what's great. I'm like does someone own that? Is that someone's. Yeah, that could be someone's hair. That's. Imagine living there. Walk out with a coffee in the morning. [01:21:57] Speaker C: Normally it's a farm. So like our guy was explained to us like if you owned that block, you'd own down to the river, down to the ocean prop generally and to the, to the middle of the top of that mountain would be your property. That would be the boundary. So like you'd own a part of that mountain. And yeah, the scale is just I think shot like this does a pretty good job at conveying it. But then you know, just to be able to explore that with your eyes and your brain, try and compute it in, in the moment is like wild, [01:22:31] Speaker B: wild, wild. [01:22:33] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Really, really beautiful. And like it's the, it's the age old thing too is you can see like I, I always lean to that warm Cool contrast as well. It's like a really similar color palette in that image. [01:22:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:22:48] Speaker C: I just love it. It's just so nice to look at. So easy to look at when you have that, that contrast and that. Or that, you know, blush of warm color to offset all the other cool. You know, it's really, really beautiful place. [01:23:04] Speaker A: And then this thing, and this is its twin. [01:23:07] Speaker C: So this is Vestrahorn. Yeah. Like our guide said to us right through the trip because obviously we have a fair focus on trying to catch the northern lights. And he said, like, we were looking at the weather because the weather's a bigger part at the moment than the aurora because because of the, this solar cycle we're in, it seems like there's some version of aurora every night there, which is, which is wild. So the gap in the clouds looked like it was going to be the night we were at Vestrahorn or near Vestrahorn. And my God, Hawker said, he said, I've never got an aurora photo above Vestrahorn. So it was like. Then the per my personal. Like I kept just jabbing it to him the whole trip. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. We're going to get it. And then while it wasn't perfect, you can see there's a bit of cloud there. That was phenomenal. It was, it was just beautiful. The, the scale of these black sand dunes is something that you, you can't comprehend. Like think of sand dunes near a beach that are a couple of meters from top to bottom. That's actually what you're looking at here. It's not just little humps in the, in the sand. And, yeah, it just worked out really well. I think pretty much everybody got some, some beautiful shots that night. I've got a. Quite a few shots. This is one frame out of a time lapse. So when I get time. Put that together. [01:24:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, [01:24:44] Speaker A: yeah. You have to. Yeah. Let us know when that's together so we can play it on the show. That'd be insane. Insane. [01:24:50] Speaker C: When I do aurora photography of any description, that's normally how I do it. So I normally get my settings close, get a nice frame with a nice foreground, and then just put the intervalometer on and just commit to the shot. And it's landed me some pretty epic footage in the past. So it's my comfortable place. But what. On a workshop, what, what it allows me to do is I just set my camera up and left at the bottom of a June and went and helped everybody Else. So while my camera was there getting whatever we. Whatever we got in terms of conditions, I was able to try and make sure everyone else got some great shots as well. [01:25:31] Speaker A: Nice. [01:25:32] Speaker C: Yeah, Incredible. Complete naked eye with those beams. Like, no, no trickery. Like some of our Southern lights shots where it's like, oh, you could. You could faint naked eye. [01:25:42] Speaker B: It. [01:25:42] Speaker C: It's like. No, you can either see it or you can't. Yeah, you can. [01:25:47] Speaker B: The way it's painted everything green, you know, just from that. [01:25:50] Speaker C: Oh, it's. [01:25:50] Speaker B: That's coming down. [01:25:52] Speaker C: It's crazy. Like. Yeah, just. And I think the cloud cover had a big part in that because it was almost like it was just reflecting all of that green light. But it was just. It was actually pretty comical. We checked into the hotel, thought, yep, it's on. We better go eat dinner. So we went to this pizza joint, and it was like. It took us longer to order pizza than it did to get it and eat it. It was just like the weirdest, funniest story. Like, just. They had. It was like the staff had no idea and you had to order off the table, but then you couldn't pay and, like, all this weird stuff. And then we finally got to this place, and this is the one place for the whole trip that's behind a gate. So to get out to this location, which is called Stocks Ness, to shoot back at Vesterhorn is behind a boom gate. And you've got to pay. It's private land, which is not a problem. But do you think we could get the thing to bloody work? To pay? [01:26:55] Speaker A: Of course. [01:26:56] Speaker C: Like, it was like an app. We could have filmed a whole episode of Mr. Bean with me and the guy trying to pay for this ticket. It was that bad. The guide went up and he was tapping his card and couldn't get it to work. And then two other guys come over and they're like. They've just done theirs and left. Like, there's work straight away. And I thought, oh, God, what a. What a Muppet. I'll go fix it. So I went over there, and then I couldn't get it to work. It was just like this Series of unfortunate Events. But what. What did happen is we end up sitting around for probably half an hour before the lights really kicked up anyway, so we didn't miss anything. Yeah, it was all a part of it. [01:27:35] Speaker A: Was this the only one for the trip, the only aurora, or did you get multiple Auroras? [01:27:41] Speaker C: No, no, I've got. So there's a. There's a black church, you see Heaps of photos. And that's one of the reasons I haven't put it in this. In this deck where we probably got a better aurora, if anything, with no clouds. So I've got some really great shots of that. But there were two or three other nights that someone or multiple people got up either really early or went out late and got some version of the aurora like it was. If there was. Like I said, if there was no clouds, you could have shot northern lights every night. [01:28:15] Speaker B: Yeah, man. [01:28:17] Speaker C: Because there's this solar maximum. Solar storm. I don't understand it too much. Everyone was looking at the apps, and I'm like, well, I'm just gonna go outside and have a look. [01:28:28] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. You're like, hang on, guys, we're in Iceland. Yeah, we just walk outside. We just walk outside. [01:28:35] Speaker C: I mean, like, you can look at those apps and they can say, you know, there's a good chance, blah, blah, blah. But especially after being there, you know, there was one night we were there that said there was a great chance, and then there was not much. And then there was the night we saw it at the Black Church. Oh, it's not going to be very good tonight. And then it was like full ribbons of green in the sky, like. Yeah, they don't know what they're talking about, like the. The generic apps. I'm sure the space weather scientists do, but, you know. Yeah. What could hurt to walk out with your camera and tripod and take a photo? [01:29:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:09] Speaker B: Well, it's what my. It's funny. It makes me remember what I think my dad or my pop used to always say, you know, that the weather people should stick their head out a window to see what the forecast is going to be. [01:29:19] Speaker A: Yeah, it's kind of like that, isn't it? [01:29:21] Speaker C: Wet or dry? [01:29:22] Speaker B: Yeah, just. Yeah, just go out and have a look. Go out and shoot. [01:29:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:26] Speaker C: Yeah. Incredible trip. Like, I. I did a photo night last night just for the people on my mailing list, and I, like, had, like, 96 photos that I shared, and I had to leave so many cool things out. It was crazy. [01:29:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, that's. That makes it so worthwhile. [01:29:43] Speaker C: There's Vestrahorn during the day. [01:29:45] Speaker A: During the day. [01:29:46] Speaker C: It's so beautiful. Yeah, it's. It's my type of thing. The jagged mountains and the. The sand dunes and the cool, you know, weathered grass. [01:29:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:57] Speaker C: And all over those dunes are patches of frost. You can see light patches in those black dunes. That's all frost. And. Yeah, it's super cool. Super cool place. [01:30:07] Speaker A: Rugged, rugged, Landscape. [01:30:09] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Really, really rugged. Yep, for sure. Yeah, yeah. So, like, I really enjoyed it from a experience perspective, but I think to get really unique images there, you'd have to be there in really great conditions. And I'm sure everyone got beautiful photos. Like, I'm super proud of the photos that I got there, and I know I didn't shoot half as many as others, and they're super arty and they're cool. And I tried to do it a bit different, you know, used a bit longer shutter and tried to play more on the waves in the background. But this place, you are literally dodging tourists. Like, there were so many times I had a shot framed up waiting for a wave, and someone would just walk in me. [01:31:01] Speaker B: Front of. [01:31:01] Speaker C: Of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there were all sorts of fashion shoots and all sorts of things happening on the beach. People sitting on the icebergs. Like, the. The ocean is. Is really unpredictable there. You'd turn over and someone would be climbing up to sit on an iceberg and the waves would come in and crash and knock them over. It's just wild. Wild. [01:31:25] Speaker B: That's. [01:31:26] Speaker A: That's the shot. I would have been shooting [01:31:30] Speaker C: video footage of that that I didn't take that many photos. Yeah. Now there, you need that soundtrack. The dumb ways to die thing. [01:31:38] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:31:41] Speaker C: It's. It's. It's really alarming. But, yeah, I love the photos from there. It's really unique place. One of the only. One of, or maybe the only place in the world where the glacial lagoon is tidal and it pulls icebergs out every time the tide goes out, [01:31:58] Speaker A: which is obviously why it's become such an amazing, like, tourist attraction, because it's so unique. [01:32:04] Speaker C: It's beautiful. It's like, even if you weren't into photography, you would. It's such an experience to walk around it, you know, so that's why it's busy all the time. [01:32:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Understandable. Man, what a. I had pushed down the desire to go to Iceland. So deep or down. Down, down. I'm like, nah, we. We haven't got that kind of cash. And, you know, you definitely go for. [01:32:29] Speaker C: You definitely struggle for the cash. It's really expensive. Yeah. So it's one. Yeah, well, it is. I mean, but it's one thing, you know, like. Like, my. My trip for my clients was super expensive, and for me, that just means I've got to work harder to make sure they have a great time and get great photos. [01:32:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:53] Speaker C: But it was pretty much all included except for the international travel and and like, you know, the normal exclusions, alcoholic drinks, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. But, like, if. Regardless of how you're going to travel there, if you're going to eat a motel, like, eat in the restaurant of your motel at night. The main meals averaged or ranged between 65 and 95 Australian dollars. [01:33:21] Speaker A: Oh, I'm gonna lie. [01:33:23] Speaker C: Flash pub at best, not restaurant. Yeah. [01:33:28] Speaker A: And then this wasn't. And that wasn't just in the tourist areas either. Like, that's not like. Because you were staying in there. [01:33:33] Speaker C: That was everywhere. [01:33:34] Speaker A: Yeah, everywhere. Yeah, that's just everywhere where it's at. Oh, man. [01:33:38] Speaker C: Yeah. And like, a beer at the restaurant at the hotel would range between 19 and $24. Like a coffee at a gas station. It's like 8, 9, $10. And it's not. It's like a. Here's your cup, go to the machine, coffee. It's not a. Oh, no. [01:33:57] Speaker A: No one's making dollars, Justin. [01:33:59] Speaker B: You wouldn't survive, Justin. [01:34:00] Speaker A: Yeah, well, not only wouldn't I survive, I'd be broke. [01:34:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:34:06] Speaker A: One of the things with a trip like that, it's like, if you're gonna do it, you don't want to be feeling every time like it's a painful experience. You want to have the. You want to have the money aside and go, oh, I'm doing it. And I know it's gonna. That's what it's gonna cost. And that's just. That's just how it is. And I'm gonna enjoy the. The hell out of it, rather than every meal being like $70 for a Palmer, you know? Yeah. Because. [01:34:27] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:34:28] Speaker A: It'll just taint your experience. Yeah. [01:34:30] Speaker C: 100%. Yeah. You have to. And. And thankfully, everyone on our trip had that exact same approach. You know, like, it is what it is. And the reality is, is everyone had repaid for all their main meals. So, you know, you would just pine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you could definitely, like, you. It'd be a struggle to take a family of four or five there. Like you would. [01:34:52] Speaker A: Oh, imagine it would be wild. 90. 90 each for a family of five for dinner. [01:34:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:35:01] Speaker A: Too bad. [01:35:02] Speaker C: Yeah. Like a gas station burger and chips is. Is a good example. Like gas station burger, chips and a Pepsi meal. Like, something like. You would get it. Maybe. Hungry jacks is like $2932, and it's not. It. It's not good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's okay. It fills the hole. [01:35:26] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. That's all it can do. Yeah, sure. All right. So we've got to keep this thing Rolling. Because our hour and a half show is already five minutes over. We've got. All right, so let's do. Let's do a real fast. You took a different camera to Iceland? [01:35:48] Speaker C: Yeah. Nikon sent me a zr, which is the new red cinema spin off. So no, no view, no evf, no epically big screen. [01:36:03] Speaker A: Like is it as big, is it as cool? Like is that screen as nice as everyone said it was to use? [01:36:09] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. It's four inch super bright. I was like, I don't know whether I could not have an evf. But for your backup camera, definitely. Yeah, yeah. So I took it just as my backup with my Z9 as my main camera. I took a stack of stills, a heap of Aurora shots. Because normally my backup camera is my Z6. And I do that because the low res is generally a bit better with noise and I use that in the low light. But it was really good. It's really different. Form factor is probably the biggest challenge that you might have if you're really familiar with Nikon stuff. Like some of the buttons that have been on all of the cameras aren't there anymore. [01:36:59] Speaker A: Okay. [01:37:00] Speaker C: The top of it is whether it will focus or not is literally like three. It's very cinema. [01:37:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:37:09] Speaker C: So it's. [01:37:09] Speaker A: Yeah, I see. [01:37:11] Speaker C: Yeah. Very, very cinema focused, you know, and it fits in a cage and it like specks out and shoots like 6K raw video and it's got epic image stabilization. Yeah, it's a really, really great camera. IT pro. Yeah, it's definitely going to be a backup in my camera from now bag from now on. [01:37:33] Speaker A: Okay. [01:37:34] Speaker C: I really enjoyed it as a, even as a stills camera. So it's still a 24 megapixel, you [01:37:40] Speaker A: know, the same sensor as the Z6. [01:37:44] Speaker C: Yeah, basically. [01:37:45] Speaker A: But three. Yeah, but just. But just with a, A more video focused processor or something. [01:37:53] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And the big screen and I think it's got a little bit better image stabilization. Don't quote me on that. But the, the this version Nikon sent me has like a small rig bracket and grip. [01:38:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:38:11] Speaker C: Without that grip it would be a really difficult photography camera because it's a very square, bricky sort of body. But with that grip it's actually. Yeah, it's really good. I like it. I'm really, really happy with it being that I've already got a heap of Z lenses. Like I filmed that last YouTube video. Actually I secretly filmed all my A roll with this camera for that. And you can see the difference. Like I Normally use my Z9 which is great. But the colors and stuff out of it are really nice, really, really easy to use. So very, very cool to use a cinema camera as a photography camera. Yeah, yeah. [01:38:52] Speaker A: That's definitely an interesting perspective because most people would probably dismiss it and just be like, no, that's not for me. But no. [01:38:59] Speaker B: Well, especially with EVF. [01:39:02] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that'd be a big. [01:39:04] Speaker C: It's 500 bucks cheaper than a Z3 as a Z63. Off the, off the shelf. And I think if you are hybrid shooter then it, it's, it's a bit of a no brainer. Like if you were a purely photography, the Z6 III is still a really good video camera. Like it shoots internal Nikon raw footage as well. So it would be a balance. Like if you needed the evf, if you were shooting a lot of long lens and wildlife stuff, you need that viewfinder. [01:39:40] Speaker B: Yeah, you need to be able to make sure that you've got that pinpoint focus on the eye or whatever. [01:39:45] Speaker C: I could see like wedding photographers and stuff like loving this. Yeah, there's a lot of that running gun and it's like different angles and the screen's massive and it folds to all different angles. Like I could see a wedding photographer, event photographer, really, really liking it purely because of the screen and it maybe if they make a Z64 and put an EVF and that big screen might make this a bit redundant. But the screens. [01:40:14] Speaker A: Yeah, let's see more of that. Let's see more massive screens on the back of all cameras. If they can fit them, why not? [01:40:21] Speaker C: It's not even just the size, it's like super bright. Like super bright. Even in the brightest conditions you can still see and really clear. And the thing that really shone for me on this trip was how good it was for night photography because you can put that screen on any angle and it's so big and clear that it was just really easy to focus the camera and really easy to see what you had framed up. And yeah, it was a, it was a bit of a game changer I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:40:57] Speaker A: Wow. [01:40:58] Speaker B: We look forward to more work from you. [01:41:00] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll keep an eye on it. We'll, we'll quickly keep on trucking to the your images because I think we've got over 10 of those. So we'll have to move fast tonight. But quickly. Jason Rogers asks, what about sports? I'm assuming for the that particular camera, I can't imagine it would be the ideal sports camera. [01:41:20] Speaker C: Probably not. It's still got fairly decent burst Rate. And the autofocus is the same as all the other Nikon stuff. Yeah. One thing I think. I don't know, I think you might run into rolling shutter stuff because it doesn't actually have a mechanical shutter. [01:41:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:41:40] Speaker C: It's like the Z8 and Z9. It's full electronic shutter. [01:41:45] Speaker A: Electronic. Yeah. [01:41:46] Speaker C: And while they don't have an issue because they're really focused on that sort of action and high speed stuff, I couldn't say about this, but I think with sports too, like, you spend a lot of time waiting and a lot of time waiting with your elbow tucked into your. To your hip versus holding it out so you can see the screen. [01:42:07] Speaker A: I just. [01:42:08] Speaker C: I don't think it would be practical. [01:42:10] Speaker A: I was gonna say. And even with a bright viewfinder for fast action. Sorry, bright? Yeah, LCD for fast action. On a bright day, it might not be enough to be able to really see what you're doing. [01:42:25] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:42:26] Speaker A: You like? I. I use my EVF all the time for sports because you just need to be able to get in and see exactly what's happening in the frame. Yeah. I don't know. [01:42:36] Speaker C: Maybe indoor sports. [01:42:38] Speaker A: Maybe. Maybe. [01:42:40] Speaker C: Might be a game changer. [01:42:42] Speaker A: Table tennis, Darts. [01:42:43] Speaker C: Yeah, basketball. [01:42:45] Speaker A: Basketball. [01:42:50] Speaker C: It'd be good. Good coaster. Good drink. Coaster for darts. [01:42:54] Speaker A: That's right. All right, let's do this. Let's. Let's move into the. The images. [01:43:05] Speaker C: All right. [01:43:06] Speaker B: Who got up first? [01:43:07] Speaker A: These ones? Well, up first we've actually got Lucinda Goodwin because last week I. I forgot her images. So we'll start with those. And she said simply shot this show last night on photo and video duties. So we'll crank through them and have a look. I don't actually know who this artist is, but they look very cool. Looks like a party. It does. [01:43:39] Speaker C: It looks like a fun night. [01:43:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:43:41] Speaker B: That was amazing. [01:43:42] Speaker C: Yeah. The thing that grabbed me was the color in that first one. [01:43:47] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:43:49] Speaker C: Warm lights in the background and then the, you know, really neutral light on the singer was beautiful. [01:43:58] Speaker B: Aurora shot. [01:44:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it does too, doesn't it? [01:44:01] Speaker B: My bad. Eyes. [01:44:03] Speaker A: Let me fix this up. There we go. [01:44:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:44:11] Speaker A: Go back to that first. That one. Yeah, yeah. [01:44:16] Speaker C: That's a really good shot. Yeah. Yeah. And that kind of photography can be so hard, right? [01:44:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:44:23] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. [01:44:24] Speaker C: It's just. You've really got to work for it. [01:44:28] Speaker A: Yeah. You gotta be everywhere and ready to go. [01:44:31] Speaker C: Yeah. Did we get any specs? [01:44:34] Speaker A: She'll be shooting with Canon, but we didn't get specs. But hang on. I reckon if I have a look in here, she's usually got metadata. So this for example. R5 mark II, 250th of a second F 3.5 at ISO 2500 at 16 mil. [01:44:52] Speaker C: Must be 16 to 35. 2.8. [01:44:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I reckon she's using the still. Might still be the adapted 16 to 30, 35 from the the EF lenses. [01:45:03] Speaker C: I reckon that's good. I really like that shot. It's good. [01:45:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Same. [01:45:07] Speaker A: Yeah, very cool. Thanks, Lucinda. Sorry I missed you last week. I'm doing my best. Okay, we've got David Skinner next with a pretty. Hopefully these are in order. We'll see. I don't know if they are. He says here are some images for you. Let me just re. Oh no. Redo this window. It changes on me every time. There we go. All shot on the Z7 2 24,120 except for the close up face which is on a little Olympus XZ10. Hang on. Some of this was that BFOP? [01:45:52] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:45:54] Speaker A: Some of this is beef up. [01:45:56] Speaker B: That's the day we were out. Was it? Or was that bright? [01:46:00] Speaker A: It says three guys beef up last year. That's all I got. Sunset. Sunset. Where we live now. Lifestyle Shepparton. It's just two doors up. It's a nice sunset. [01:46:14] Speaker C: That's beautiful. Just quietly. That 24 to 120 Nikon lens is my favorite lens that I don't actually own. [01:46:23] Speaker A: Why don't you own it? [01:46:25] Speaker C: Because I have the 24 to 72.8 and they brought that out after I bought the 2.8 and I just can't justify the upgrade. Yeah, I have borrowed it quite a few times from Nikon. It's such a good lens. Yeah. [01:46:43] Speaker A: I asked Ross at befop. Ross from Nikon. Nikon Ross, we call him Ross Hooper. I call him Nikon Ross and we. So we asked Nikon Ross what's Nikon's most underrated lens and he said the 24 to 124. [01:47:00] Speaker C: It's a phenomenal like for a landscape photographer or someone who's just walking around. Phenomenal lens. Those are beautiful sun stars too. [01:47:11] Speaker A: Speaking of sunstars. [01:47:12] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that's really, really cool. Blade stars in it from the sun. Yeah, really good. [01:47:20] Speaker A: This was a beef up as well. [01:47:22] Speaker C: Yep. Almost feels a bit infrared that shot. [01:47:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:28] Speaker A: Doesn't it? [01:47:29] Speaker C: Because those leaves behind it are backlit and really glistening. They look. [01:47:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:33] Speaker C: Look quite white. Yeah. Really good. [01:47:37] Speaker A: I think this is the shot that he's talking about from the 9 year old camera. The Olympus XZ10 no longer made. Bring it out every now and then for fun. And it does shoot raw. [01:47:50] Speaker C: Wow. I wish I didn't sell all of my old cameras. [01:47:55] Speaker A: Yes, me too. Yeah, me too. [01:47:57] Speaker C: Yeah. My first camera, my first good digital camera was a Panasonic DMC FZ10. It was like the one with the big optical Zeiss lens. So good. Yeah. I wish I still had it. Yeah. [01:48:14] Speaker A: Oh, look at that. That's a bit of beef up action too. Yeah, yeah. Light painting in river on the podcast, in the photos. [01:48:23] Speaker C: He just won't go away. [01:48:26] Speaker A: So this is two seconds handheld. Yeah, yeah, handheld. Impressive. [01:48:31] Speaker C: That's pretty cool. [01:48:32] Speaker A: F22 at 96 mil, ISO 500. And then what else? [01:48:39] Speaker B: We got the wild stamp of approval. [01:48:42] Speaker A: Smoke haze in the Buffalo Valley. [01:48:47] Speaker C: And then this one wasn't a B fault. [01:48:50] Speaker A: No, it wouldn't have been. [01:48:51] Speaker C: No way you were up there. [01:48:53] Speaker A: No, this one was backlit, man. [01:48:58] Speaker B: Yeah, that's great. [01:49:00] Speaker A: I remember that this is a third of a second handheld as well, so. Experimenting with some slower. Slower shutter speeds. Yeah. But my favorite shot of the collection, I included a picture of the camera. This is the Olympus XZ10. Yeah. I don't know. We need more of these cameras. More of these little cameras. They're just not coming out. They gotta make a comeback. [01:49:25] Speaker C: Phones are killing them. [01:49:26] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. [01:49:28] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:49:29] Speaker B: But they're on the rise. Sales are on the rise. Like I said earlier, especially in Asian regions, complex fixed compact fixed lens cameras are booming. [01:49:37] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or even like a Sony RX100. Great camera. Yeah, yeah, great camera. [01:49:48] Speaker A: All right, who's next? [01:49:50] Speaker C: Very cool. [01:49:50] Speaker A: Thank you for sending those in, David. Keep it coming. And up next we have Kyle Atwood. Let me fix my window again. And he says. I've been listening to the Camera Life podcast for a few months, and after catching the show live, I thought I'd send through a few images. I've enjoyed photography since I was a teenager, and after briefly dabbling in street photography a few years ago, I spent several years shooting almost exclusively automotive and motorsport as a hobby. Eventually, I found myself a little burnt out with that, so I returned to street photography. Where am I? So I returned to street photography and realized it was what I enjoyed the most. For the past three years, I've spent almost every weekend wandering Perth with my camera, looking for small moments, gestures, and slightly odd things that appear in everyday life. Most of the work is shot on 35mm film and comes from repeatedly returning to the same streets and seeing what unfolds. I've attached a couple of Motorsport images, along with a selection of my street photography from the past couple of years. That gives a sense of the work I'm making now. I may have attached a few too many, so please feel free to share whichever ones you think work best. Perth is often described as a quiet city, but I'm continually described by what turns up if you spend enough time to wandering it. Great images. Yeah, yeah. Really good. [01:51:17] Speaker C: Street photography is something that I find very hard. [01:51:21] Speaker A: Me too. Yeah, I. I find it easier overseas, but in Australia I find it really, really, really hard. [01:51:28] Speaker C: Yep, Yep. There's definitely. It's a different set of skills to a lot of the other genres of photography. Yeah. Really cool. [01:51:38] Speaker A: What do you think, Greg? You're a. You're a street guru. What do you think of these? [01:51:45] Speaker B: Wonderful. The color one previously of the woman eating the ice cream was a beautiful composition because you've got. [01:51:51] Speaker A: Oh, the girl. Yeah. I didn't see her. Yeah. [01:51:55] Speaker B: Someone in the background further. And just the color palette as well. You've got the red. She's got red. You've got the blue. The back of the building up there in the background. [01:52:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:52:05] Speaker B: And then the foreground subjects wearing a. Like a dark. Similar dark color. It's just really well balanced, you know, and it's not like you can. It's all luck, isn't it? [01:52:16] Speaker C: It's all. [01:52:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:52:17] Speaker B: Being present at the right time, pushing the button at the right moment, it's not something you can prepare for. It's not something that you can stage. [01:52:26] Speaker A: This one, this one's. Oh, sorry, Greg, I got distracted. Go on. [01:52:32] Speaker B: No, I was just gonna say you're purely just looking for the, you know, who's the hero in the shot, you [01:52:39] Speaker A: know, and then hoping it works when you press the shutter. Hoping everyone moved into the right spot for you, you know, like, as it happened. [01:52:46] Speaker C: Yeah, Yep. [01:52:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that. Which is. Yeah, this one. This is my style of, like, heaps of contrast. I really like the framing or with the elements in the frame. There's balance to me. What? You know, strong subject balance out by smaller subjects on the shadows and stuff. Yeah, it's. [01:53:03] Speaker C: Yeah, this is. [01:53:04] Speaker A: This is my style. [01:53:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Very cool. [01:53:07] Speaker C: Yeah, I've been like a bit of contrasty black and white lately as well. Yeah, just. It's nice to shift. Yeah, I like that one. That one's really good. [01:53:21] Speaker A: I think we got. Carl said. I rambled and then realized I forgot to include settings or info about the photos. Most. Most of the black and white film are HP5 at 800. Wow. Yes. [01:53:33] Speaker B: Well done. [01:53:34] Speaker A: Yeah, beautiful shots. [01:53:35] Speaker C: Really good. [01:53:36] Speaker A: I don't know if I missed the motorsport ones. Maybe I'm not sure what's happened. I'll. We'll. [01:53:41] Speaker C: No, the story was Carl's parked. No, no. [01:53:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I thought he said he included. I've attached a couple of motorsport images along with. Yeah, maybe I. Maybe I didn't download properly or something. But anyway, the street images are epic. Well done. [01:53:57] Speaker C: This one's trains racing. [01:53:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the motorsport. [01:54:04] Speaker C: Yeah, they're really good. [01:54:07] Speaker A: Yeah, Beautiful work. Yeah, yeah, well done. Keep it up. Send in more. Where is Greg Carrick? Greg Carrick? No, not Greg Carrick first. David Leporardi first. [01:54:23] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:54:24] Speaker A: I almost got lost there. [01:54:30] Speaker C: That's cool. [01:54:30] Speaker A: Okay. [01:54:33] Speaker C: Stolen the police Jet Ski. [01:54:35] Speaker A: You don't see that every day. More images created for the Queensland Police Service Media Unit. As I stated last week, they own the copyright and I've blurred the faces of serving members and stuff. All shot with 5D Mark III and various EF lenses and the 600 EXRT speed lights. This is Police Santa on Jet Ski of Gold Coast. Oh, look, a robot. This is the. [01:55:02] Speaker B: The bomb. [01:55:03] Speaker A: The bomb, yeah. Eort Explosive Ordinance Response Team. Dog and robot. That's cool. [01:55:11] Speaker B: Wow. [01:55:14] Speaker A: Did you get to drive the robot, David? You get to have a go. Just use it to just grab something [01:55:21] Speaker B: or unpack your camera bag with it. [01:55:27] Speaker C: I want it to send in to wake up my daughter in school mornings. Seal the blanket. [01:55:39] Speaker A: That's funny. Queensland police memorial. That's lit with four flashes. Four offcoming flashes. [01:55:48] Speaker C: That's cool. [01:55:51] Speaker A: Police ballistic officer test firing.44 Magnum revolver. Three flashes. [01:55:57] Speaker B: What? [01:55:59] Speaker A: Yeah.44 Magnums. That's a big gun. [01:56:04] Speaker C: That's a lot of gunpowder. [01:56:06] Speaker A: Yeah, looks like it. Canon behind the scenes image for the Eort dog and robot. So where he set the flashes up and the robot and for the guy in the background controlling the robot, not the dog. Yes. And then. Okay, so this is the. Was on a sunny morning that he took the memorial shot. Yeah. Look at the. On the left is the unlit version. And then by using toes for where [01:56:41] Speaker B: the light's going to point. [01:56:43] Speaker A: Yes. And. And tungsten white balance in camera. And then gelled with CTO gels color temperature orange gels on the flashes to correct for the tungsten white balance so that they looked. They look natural but it made the rest of the frame blue. Yeah, very clever. [01:57:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:57:03] Speaker A: Flashes. Flashes at all at full power. And then Photoshop the lights on the ground to make it look like the light was coming from somewhere in the Shot. Nice. Finally. Hang on. And this is the. Oh, this is the ballistics one. The ballistics shoot was very dangerous due to being in front of the gun. Even wearing a heavy bulletproof vest.44 magnum revolver was very loud in this small room. Even with ear protection, the revolver was used because more flame is generated as the bullet passes from the chamber into the barrel. [01:57:39] Speaker B: Nice. [01:57:41] Speaker A: So. So. Looked like the. The person was shooting the gun directly at his flash. Trying to shoot the flash, which is fun. Yeah. No. So, okay, red gel over there, blue gel over there. And then the main key light in the subject. That's awesome. I wonder how many shots. Yeah. How many attempts it took. [01:58:06] Speaker B: It says here two rounds fired. Two shots. [01:58:08] Speaker A: Ah, stop it. I would have burnt through all of their ammo and like, let's just do it. Let's just do a couple more. I don't know if I've got it. [01:58:20] Speaker C: Very cool. [01:58:23] Speaker A: Greg Carrick up next, continuing the theme, because he says this week is a CFA theme. Young boy exploring a real fire truck. [01:58:33] Speaker B: Oh, that's cool. [01:58:36] Speaker A: And then the CFA demonstrating how they fight an LPG tank fire. [01:58:42] Speaker C: Yeah, I love those kinds of things. I shot this cool commercial job late last year where it was for a mine site, and we did, like an hour with their. Their rescue team doing stuff like this, and I was like, oh, we could probably get a few more shots of this. I enjoyed shooting it so much. [01:59:00] Speaker A: This stuff's so cool. That's. That's basically. That's one of the only commercial sort of things I still do, is I shoot for a guy that does training for those teams. They just had their competition in Bendigo last weekend. Not this weekend. Just go on the one before. They had 13 mine rescue teams here in Bendigo doing a competition. And, yeah, it's. It's the easiest stuff to shoot because it's cool. You don't have to do anything. You just let them do it and then you take photos. [01:59:26] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really cool. [01:59:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Super fun. Finally, the annual CFA Santa Run in Mount Evelyn. That's an awesome shot. [01:59:42] Speaker B: Look at the shadow. [01:59:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:59:46] Speaker C: The shadow makes it, doesn't it? [01:59:47] Speaker B: Yeah, doesn't it? So cool. [01:59:48] Speaker C: Really? [01:59:50] Speaker A: Is the shadow real? [01:59:51] Speaker B: Of course it's real. What do you mean? It's a real. [01:59:55] Speaker A: It has to be, I guess. I'm looking at the truck. [01:59:58] Speaker B: I apologize for him. Really. [02:00:03] Speaker C: Yeah, that's really cool. [02:00:05] Speaker A: That's. That's amazing. Well done. [02:00:08] Speaker B: Very cool. [02:00:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that's so. And he even goes on to say these were taken with My Nikons before I saw the light. Yep. Look at it. Yep. Yep. That's, that's an amazing shot. So cool. [02:00:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:00:27] Speaker A: Okay. Jamie Vanden Brink. Where are we? Jamie. [02:00:30] Speaker C: Jamie. [02:00:31] Speaker A: Jamie. After hearing how Dennis cracked out his Canon 450D last week, I thought I would share some of my favorite photos from my 450D. I brought the 450D in 2009 just before heading to New Zealand. My first ever proper photography camera. What a place to test out a new camera. Just gorgeous landscape everywhere. Hang on, we'll go to the next one. The seal and sunset was at Carter's Beach, Greymouth on the west coast. The panoramic is the gorgeous Kaikura on the east coast. I don't know how to pronounce that, but that. Wow. Yeah, that is gorgeous. [02:01:15] Speaker C: Beautiful, isn't it? Yeah. [02:01:17] Speaker A: On the east coast. Yeah. I haven't been there. That's beautiful. I just experimented with settings. I didn't really know what I was doing. These landscapes are still some of my favorite. Hope you like them. And then goes on to say thanks again for creating this community. Although I work in a camera shop, I don't really have any friends who are into photography. Really look forward to Mondays nerding out and listening to like minded people. Have a great show. [02:01:42] Speaker B: Where your safe place. [02:01:45] Speaker C: You know, I love that those images are proof. Right. They're in good light, good conditions. It doesn't really matter what, how good your camera is. Right? [02:01:54] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [02:01:56] Speaker C: And I love that about photos that were taken on decades old cameras. People like you need the latest and greatest. But there's still these incredibly beautiful photos taken on cameras that are 20 plus years old. Now [02:02:10] Speaker B: when we were doing the. Was it the BFOP interviews or when we interviewed some, some of the BFOP instructors, we were surprised how many of them were still shooting on DSLRs. [02:02:21] Speaker C: Yep. [02:02:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:02:22] Speaker B: Because it just, it was just, it just made sense to not upgrade yet. They had all the lenses, they had reliable cameras that were working perfectly taking amazing images. It was just really stark. Just to hear people say, oh no, I'm still shooting on a DSLR. [02:02:36] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. I really love my, I loved my D850. That was such a good camera. [02:02:42] Speaker A: Oh yeah. There isn't. There isn't. I, I don't think maybe I could be proven wrong. But there isn't better image quality out of any mirrorless camera than there is out of that date 50. They might be on par. Maybe an argument could be made for the Sony A7R5 with 60 megapixels beautiful sensor. But. But when you're talking about comparing it to the top of the range Nikons, the top of the range Canons in the mirrorless, it's at best. They're just on par with that camera. [02:03:15] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [02:03:19] Speaker A: Such a still images. It was like. It was amazing. Yeah. Dennis says it's not the wand, but the wizard who waves it. That's what my dad said to tell the girls. Oh, dear. [02:03:37] Speaker C: Yep. [02:03:39] Speaker A: And then Tweak Productions says yes, great light makes it. I've been back with other cameras and haven't been able to get sh. Shots like this again. Yeah, exactly. [02:03:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Great shot. [02:03:49] Speaker A: Amazing. Okay, who's next? David Mascara. Some more street portraits with all the stories. Some very sad. Some who have decided to voluntarily check out. At this point, the cameras used don't really matter. Most of this group I don't really see anymore. So I hope they're all doing okay. Have a great show, guys. Gosh. Very, very solemn this week, David. [02:04:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:04:21] Speaker C: Super cool. [02:04:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. His street portraits are always amazing, but sounds like he might be when you. When he went through and curated this collection, might have hit him a bit hard. [02:04:39] Speaker C: Yeah, [02:04:44] Speaker A: Yeah. These are. [02:04:46] Speaker B: These are amazing, aren't they? Yeah, they really just beautiful portraiture. Natural light, you know. [02:04:54] Speaker C: Yeah. I think like the really beautiful portraits, they obviously have all the technical things going for them, but what they have is trust between the person behind and the person in front of the camera. [02:05:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:05:09] Speaker C: You can just see it, Right. [02:05:11] Speaker B: Yeah. And he said before that sometimes he just doesn't even take the photo. He just sits and talks with them. [02:05:16] Speaker C: Yep. [02:05:17] Speaker B: You know. [02:05:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:05:18] Speaker B: Sometimes the photo doesn't come from it. I think that's a really. Yeah, it's a beautiful approach. It's a compassionate approach, you know, and he always says that, you know, he talks to them first. He gets to. He says hi and a chat and ask permission. [02:05:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:05:32] Speaker B: Doesn't just walk up with a camera and go bang. So. [02:05:36] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah, it's all. The best. Portrait photographers in the world are great people. People, right, Exactly. They know how to bring the best out. Yeah. For their images by talking to people and working with people. Our friend Dennis Smith is pretty good at that. I don't know whether anyone's noticed it. [02:05:57] Speaker A: He's pretty good at it. [02:05:58] Speaker B: Absolutely. I've seen him have conversations when there's no one else around. So he's amazing. [02:06:05] Speaker C: Yeah. He even talks himself. He even talks his subject into it when he's doing self portraits. Nah, he is, though, like working with Dennis. [02:06:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's definitely a people person. Yeah. [02:06:26] Speaker C: Photos. [02:06:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Beautiful images as always, David. Keep him coming. Keep him coming. I want to see the book. You got to make the book. You got so many images. Every week I'm like, surely he doesn't have more? And every week, there's six street portraits that we haven't seen before. [02:06:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:06:42] Speaker C: Crazy. [02:06:44] Speaker A: Crazy. All right. Paul Carpenter says big storms rolled through Canberra yesterday evening. When it happens before sunset, this normally provides an opportunity to get up on the ridge behind my place and get some great light. As the storms depart to the east, here are two images on the new RF15 to 35. It's a beauty. It is a beauty. F8.1 6, ISO 123 and 27 mil, respectively. And so this is the other one. [02:07:18] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [02:07:19] Speaker C: Look at the colors a lot. [02:07:21] Speaker B: But the alignment, too. The alignment of the power lines and those two brighter streaks in the sky. [02:07:26] Speaker C: Yeah, really cool. Love the first one. I love the. I love a bit of magenta into the. In the clouds when that light's sort of that purpley cool color. It's very, very nice. [02:07:40] Speaker A: Yeah. And the framing of this tree. Yeah, yeah. That's a really. That tree's got a lot of character. I'm not suggesting you do this, Paul, but imagine if that tree, if there was nothing else, or if that was on, like, a bare bit of land, how beautiful that would look. Don't do it. Don't. But imagine how cool that would look. Just see it in on the. I don't know, out on a plane somewhere. Okay. Phil Thompson. All right, there's a few of these. We'll have to go through them quick. But similar to last week's submissions, this week I've chosen. Oh, hang on, hang on. What's happening here? Go back to the start. Come on. There we go. This week I've chosen fog Bows. They appear on foggy mornings on and on. A similar principle to rainbows will appear when the sun is still low, shining on the fog that is starting to burn off. While rainbows use refraction to create vivid colors from large drops, fogbows use diffraction, which blurs the colors together into white. All of these I captured in country locations just in Geelong, at Ceres, Barrabool, Dog Rocks, Drysdale, Freshwater Creek, and Moored areas. All done on Pentax K3 and K1 cameras. Shutter speed 140 to 180. Aperture f13 to f18, and ISO 200 to 400. [02:09:12] Speaker C: Nice. I like the Dog Rocks one. [02:09:16] Speaker A: This one. [02:09:17] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [02:09:19] Speaker A: I Didn't know there was such a thing as fog bows. [02:09:22] Speaker B: No, me neither. This is a first for me too, Justin. And we'll go into it together. [02:09:27] Speaker A: Yeah, we're learning together. [02:09:30] Speaker C: That one's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Really cool. [02:09:35] Speaker A: What is remarkable is that you have eight fogbow images. That's quite insane. Like, I. I've never. I've never seen one of these. I don't think if I have. I didn't notice it. And you've managed to capture. Capture eight images made by ChemTrack. Okay, that's a different. We'll do. We'll talk about that on a different episode, different podcast. That's on our [02:10:07] Speaker C: conspiracy theory or fog out here. [02:10:11] Speaker A: You don't get a lot of fog. No. [02:10:13] Speaker C: Maybe one day. [02:10:15] Speaker A: Well, when there is. Go looking for a fogbow. I will. [02:10:19] Speaker C: I absolutely will. Yeah, it's that. That's really cool. I think that dog rocks photo is just beautiful. I like the simplicity. [02:10:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Y. Imagine if that tree was the tree from Paul shot. Imagine. That's what I'm. That's what I'm picturing in my head. This is a cool trade though, too. It's got some character. [02:10:40] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it. [02:10:44] Speaker B: The lean. [02:10:46] Speaker A: Yeah, Those three, Phil. Oh, the tree lean. [02:10:50] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. The imbalance in the branches is made up for by the balance in the way the tree leans. [02:10:57] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [02:10:59] Speaker C: It's like lent over to carry the weight of the branches on the other side. It's nature at its best. It's very cool. [02:11:08] Speaker B: Oh, they're wonderful, Phil. Thank you. [02:11:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:11:12] Speaker A: Apparently I need to get up early if I want to see these. Okay. [02:11:17] Speaker B: There goes that. [02:11:19] Speaker A: Everybody thinks I sleep in. I guess I get up at 5:15 every day. I just don't go outside tennis. Smith says looking forward to tonight. Here are a couple of picks. The reflection one is here in Australia. GFX170 single exposure. Mossy Madness. It was pitch black this night. That is Mossy madness. Can you guys see that? Is it coming through the Internet? You can see the detail on the. On the edge there. [02:11:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:11:54] Speaker B: Maybe just zoom into a bit for us because it's quite small still. [02:11:57] Speaker A: Hold on. Enhance. [02:12:01] Speaker B: Yeah, There. [02:12:02] Speaker A: That's cool. [02:12:02] Speaker C: Yeah, that's really cool. Oh, look at the way it reflects. [02:12:05] Speaker B: That's crazy. [02:12:07] Speaker C: Yeah. Dennis says GFX100 madness. It is a pretty. Pretty amazing camera. Yeah. Beautiful. [02:12:16] Speaker A: And then the statue of Venus. Hang on. There we go. In the gardens of Linderhof palace in Bavaria, the last night of a wild Red Bull funded and fueled eight country in eight day light painting, trip around the Alps. Crazy story for another time. This is at about 1am moonlight diffused through the clouds. Wow. That is. Okay, we'll put that up. That's got a. We'll have a whole episode on that. Maybe you can show us the images from every day. [02:12:54] Speaker C: Yeah. That's crazy. [02:12:55] Speaker B: That's amazing. Isn't it though? [02:12:58] Speaker A: What a fun way to explore places. Just to be like, I'm gonna light paint that. [02:13:05] Speaker C: Yep. [02:13:06] Speaker A: At 1:00am in the middle of. Yeah. [02:13:08] Speaker C: He never, never saw anywhere during daylight but. [02:13:16] Speaker A: Wild stories. We'll hear. We're ready. [02:13:19] Speaker B: We will. [02:13:19] Speaker A: We. Beautiful. Thanks for sending me Dennis. Philip Johnson. Continuing the tree bark. Oh, that's nice. Continuing the tree bark thing. I'm gonna make that a little bit bigger for us. There we go. Tree bark, especially with the squibbly gum, is a favorite. I always think they are abstract and great for intimate landscapes. Just pull up a seat and observe the bark. It's easy to find a pattern. Yeah, I love this one. [02:13:52] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't know why. [02:13:55] Speaker A: Yeah. What do you, what do you like about it, Adam? [02:13:59] Speaker C: I like just the abstract feel and the, the color palette as well. It's got. [02:14:05] Speaker A: That's what I, I think it's the addition of the yellow, like the, the yellow coming through on the top left. [02:14:11] Speaker C: Yep. Yeah. [02:14:13] Speaker A: Because I think the one from last week was more. More like. Yeah. Had less color. I think that really takes it. [02:14:22] Speaker C: I actually think the square crop really is really clever because it has this really beautiful visual balance. If you, if you look at it and you started to break it up into quadrants. In any version, it's got pretty good balance in, in the elements in the image. So, like the yellow really drags you, but then there's also that scribble down by itself which pulls you back down there as well. And then up the top is the dimple in the tree, but then opposite that there's that really interesting bit of bark. Like it's an image that just invites you to look around at lots of things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like that. [02:15:00] Speaker A: And, and I, I think, I think for me it is that bottom clean, squibbly bit that is the, the main element of the image for me. I don't know why, but it's like the focal point. But then you loop around and look at everything else and I end up back there again. [02:15:15] Speaker C: Yeah. It's really, really interesting. [02:15:19] Speaker B: Beautiful. [02:15:20] Speaker A: That one was shot on the A7 IV Sony 70 to 202.8 mark II. Beautiful shot. This might be our Last one, I'm not 100% sure from LTK and I don't know if it had any data with it. Oh, another square crop. Interesting square crop too. And cropping like part of the car away. Yeah, creative choice. [02:15:50] Speaker C: Edgy. [02:15:51] Speaker A: Edgy that car is. I'll just see. I'll just double check if there was any data in there. [02:15:58] Speaker C: The car wrapped in gold or something. [02:16:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's. [02:16:03] Speaker C: Works really well. Golden blue. [02:16:07] Speaker A: Yeah. And then, and then obviously choosing to frame it where it's, it's, it's tilted. Yeah, but in a square crop. Very cool. [02:16:19] Speaker C: There's lots of lines in that. That's what works really well. Yeah, lots of lines that are sort of all parallel with each other. [02:16:27] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a shot with XT2 and 100 to 400. [02:16:33] Speaker B: Well done. [02:16:35] Speaker C: Yeah, very cool. [02:16:38] Speaker A: Let me just double check and then I think we've got Greg's images and I think that's it. But let me make sure I haven't missed somebody. Lucinda, Paul, Phil. I think that's it. See what Greg's been up to. Wow, what do we have here? [02:16:55] Speaker B: Okay, so I've been a busy boy. I've started doing some product shots with Alpaca who make travel bags, backpacks, like EDC bags, tech bags, tech pouches, that sort of thing. And this is actually a gaming sling that they gave to me and I've pulled the sling bit off because they just attach. Because photographing straps on things is horrible to product shots. [02:17:20] Speaker A: Yeah, tell me about it. [02:17:21] Speaker B: I know. Yeah, you would know. Anyway, so I, I've got quite a big Nintendo gaming collection. Yeah, we are a household of nerds. And then I started bringing together all the bits and pieces that I haven't realized that I have 40 something controllers for Switch. But you know, it's. [02:17:43] Speaker A: Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. I just have to be. Just double check something. Switches have their own controllers built in. [02:17:50] Speaker B: Yeah. So you see the bottom right corner of this shot? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're the controllers. They kind of snap off the tablet or they, and they magnet lock back on. But. [02:17:59] Speaker A: So you needed to get 40 additional controllers. [02:18:02] Speaker B: Look, I, I don't, I don't judge you for how many cameras. [02:18:06] Speaker A: Yes, you do. Or you do every week. And backpacks. Wow. 40 controllers. That's nuts. [02:18:15] Speaker B: So I've just been playing around with product shots flat lays and I just sort of throw a couple in because it's. Was it been working on. [02:18:24] Speaker A: Was it hard? Like did you have to, did you spend a lot of Time laying out the controllers in different ways to where you liked it, or was it pretty easy to get a feel for where you wanted to take it? [02:18:33] Speaker B: I had some ideas, but this is the second time I've done this shoot. The first time I just wasn't happy with how they turned out. They were fine, but they weren't. There was nothing compelling about them. And so this time I went with a much simpler flat lay kind of pattern, keeping everything sort of facing in the same direction and getting the lines moving around. So, yeah, anyway, I'm still working on it. [02:19:01] Speaker C: It's cool. [02:19:02] Speaker B: And then, yeah, I've dropped these in the alpacas Socials. And yeah, people are liking them, so, you know, it's fun. [02:19:12] Speaker A: Hang on, is that an intended controller [02:19:14] Speaker C: fit in each bag? [02:19:16] Speaker A: That's a good question. [02:19:17] Speaker B: That is a very good question. Technically, in that bag I could fit two with the switch. [02:19:23] Speaker A: So this is misinformation. [02:19:25] Speaker B: Whatever, go to the next frame. [02:19:30] Speaker C: Cool. [02:19:32] Speaker A: Very cool. Is this the Nintendo key ring thing just like key tag, or is that a controller as well? [02:19:39] Speaker B: No, it's. You get it from the. The Nintendo stores in Japan. There's these specialist stores that they have now and they're like fidget things. The buttons work like they used to on the original controllers, but they've got a whole series of buttons and joysticks just on little plastic moldings that celebrate some of their past controllers that they've made. So, yeah, and then I'm continuing my work at the skate park. I'm feeling a project building up inside me. I don't know what I want to do with it yet, but really enjoying the process. Really loving the community down there. And it's just such a great space. There's so much, so much to fill your frame with that's compelling. Even some of the background elements are really amazing in that area. And these are all shot with the Fujifilm XE5 and 23F1 4PRIME. [02:20:34] Speaker C: That's it, nice. [02:20:39] Speaker A: And then more basketball. [02:20:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:20:43] Speaker A: Oh, I know that guy. [02:20:45] Speaker B: Yeah. There's Craig Witchen. So on Friday we had Craig here. On Thursday, not here here, but we had Craig on the Camera Life podcast on Thursday morning. And then on Friday morning I joined him for one of his walks for, well, being nice, I reckon. We had about 40 people show up for this walk. It's just an hour, and then we all met for coffee. We agreed on a place that everyone would go and meet at the end of the walk in an hour's time, and we all went and had coffee. And chats and introduced ourselves to people and. But it was just a fun. A fun outing. It was good because I sort of headed off doing some solo stuff. I didn't really want to pair up with anyone necessarily, but every now and then you'd kind of bump into someone from the group and you'd walk along for, like, you know, 50 meters, and then they go, oh, I'm going to go over there, and I'm going to go over here. And it was just really lovely seeing people around the. Around the city being so occupied by cameras. [02:21:41] Speaker C: Nice. [02:21:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's. It's awesome that he's been able to keep this going for so long and keep. Keep the momentum happening. You know, he's got a business now like. Like he's. He's dedicating a fair bit of his own time to do this every week or every. Sorry. Every month. It's pretty special. [02:22:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Amazing. [02:22:03] Speaker A: Cool images, too. Were these. These ones from the walk? [02:22:07] Speaker B: Yeah, those three were from the walk. The. The theme of the walk was symmetry, but I. I think I got two shots that I felt like that they fitted the brief, but other. I was just hunting light in general and seeing things and chasing after them. So, yeah, it's all right. [02:22:27] Speaker A: Rules were made to be broken. [02:22:28] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. [02:22:31] Speaker B: And it was fun, you know. [02:22:34] Speaker A: Awesome. Well, that was an epic. That was an epic 2 hours and 22 minutes. That was. It was supposed to be an hour and a half, so [02:22:43] Speaker B: it's easy. We just blame the guest. [02:22:45] Speaker C: Justin, don't invite me on a podcast if you want to keep it in time. Won't work. [02:22:53] Speaker A: Well, don't bring epic photos back from Iceland. And we wouldn't, you know, look at them for an hour. Yeah. Damn you. I. I was. I was like, okay, I'm definitely gonna have to go to Iceland next year. And then when you said 60 to 90 meals, I was like, oh, yeah, I can. I'm gonna have to hold off. Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have to. I think I can hold off for another couple years maybe, and then. And then make it happen. But, yeah, it's just so good. I'm. I'm really glad to hear that. That just because it's become fairly touristy in some spots doesn't mean that you shouldn't go there and that there's no opportunities or whatever, that there's still such, like, this beauty to be found and. And isolated locations and cool stuff no one else is at. And obviously, like, everywhere when. When there's something beautiful, it's going to attract a lot of people. That's just life. [02:23:43] Speaker C: And, yeah, they're still finding places in Iceland. That's one of the things that was a takeaway from me, from the guide. You know, like that, that big canyon everyone goes to nowadays with the basalt columns. Like, it was only five or six years ago. No one even knew that existed. But the farmer that owned the land, like, okay, that amazing, you know. Yeah, it's an incred, like. Yeah, it's an incredible, incredible place. And we did 1600 or so kilometers in our lap around the island and we just saw the smallest little slither, you know. Yeah, it's largely unexplored photographically. Yeah, yeah. And you just got to get used to removing people out of popular photos, like some of those big waterfalls and stuff. Just, just remove them out and just tell people you remove photos. Like, you can't take that photo without people in it. Yeah, that's how it is. Yeah, that's fair. [02:24:43] Speaker A: Is there anything that you want to tell the world before we sign off tonight? Anything you've got coming up? [02:24:49] Speaker C: Oh, man, like, I've got a bit of stuff coming up. Dennis and I were talking today. We're doing our next Light in the Landscape workshop, which is on my website at the moment. There's only one place left on that out of eight out of eight places. I've got a very small handful of spots left for trips coming up this, this year. I've got one spot on Broken Hill at the end of March and then just the odd scattered place throughout the year. But like, yeah, just get involved. Like, I love having conversations with people, watch my videos, have a chat, you know, whatever you may have. Like, I had someone in the gallery here today who saw me on the down south photo show and we had some really good conversations based on that. You know, if you're keen on printing. I'm just starting to finalize some dates for my printing workshop, which is all done online. Oh, that's good fun. Yeah. Yeah, there it is, there. The Make It Real Print boot camp. And I've just not long put a date up for my online filters workshop. So if you're curious about filters in photography, then it's just a nice easy two hour, two and a half hour, three hour. If it's anything like tonight's podcast [02:26:15] Speaker A: chat [02:26:16] Speaker C: about filters and how to use them, how they work. You know, all the stuff that nobody tells you about filters, right, is you can go and buy a filter kit and you think you have to use them all the time, but you know that little session's all about teaching people how to use them the right way and how not to use them when they're not going to help you. So, yeah, I'm always looking for new things, always looking to talk to camera clubs and, like, super keen to start talking about BFOP again, if I'm honest. Yeah, forever. [02:26:47] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm pretty sure keen. [02:26:49] Speaker A: Yeah, it's gonna be fun. [02:26:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:26:51] Speaker A: We've got to book out. Book our accommodation. Greg, did you want to. Did you want a single tent or a double tent? Give me a double. Okay. Anything else? Bruce is keen. [02:27:10] Speaker B: Bruce is keen. [02:27:11] Speaker C: Yeah, we need to do an instructor thing for like, involved people, like prefop or post prefab. [02:27:21] Speaker B: Sounds good because. [02:27:24] Speaker C: Okay, we all seem to rush in and rush out and. And that is one thing that I actually feel, you know, like, I love seeing all the punters and I. I could stay there for a week for that. But one thing that I feel like we miss out on every year is you spend so much time with. With all the attendees that we don't actually spend that much time together. [02:27:44] Speaker A: Well, I mean, a prefop would be easy enough. I just figured everyone was. Would be so flat out in the lead up to it that a prefop wouldn't be that hard. It's. Even Bruce wants an instructor fop. [02:27:58] Speaker C: I. [02:28:02] Speaker A: All right, I better. I better go to bed. I got a scary workout to do tomorrow and I'm starting to get nervous about it, so I gotta go. I gotta go get some sleep. [02:28:13] Speaker B: All right, well, I think. I think we're going to wrap it up there, folks, in case you have been living under a rock for the last two or two and a half hours, this is the Camera Life podcast and it is proudly brought to you by Lucky Straps. We make handmade, fine leather camera straps right in. In Ben. God, I'm too tired. In Bendigo, Victoria. But if you know a camera straps not for you. We also do leather belts, we do hoodies, we do tees, and we also have an excellent range of valerate gloves for your next winter adventure with camera in hand. So head to Luckystraps.com and if you do happen to put something in the car, use code Greg. Not for the gloves, but for any of the Lucky Straps branded products and you'll get a healthy little discount. And while I've got your attention, if you're new here, please subscribe. It helps us out a lot. And make sure you tickle the bell icon so you get notified in your time zone. And give us a like it lets other people know that. That we're doing good work here. Or we think we are, maybe we're not. Who knows? Let us know. [02:29:15] Speaker C: Let us know in the comments. [02:29:17] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Comment below like and subscribe. Thanks, Twig Productions. Thanks, Craig Murphy. Another fun one. Nev Clarks. He's just, just joined a bit of it, but he's been out apparently. I believe he's got a new Q3. So we'll, we'll hear all about that soon. Thanks, Bruce. Oh, you may have choiced him. Ah, well, everyone needs a Q3. Love you too, Dennis. [02:29:45] Speaker B: Thanks. [02:29:46] Speaker A: Greg Carrick, Jason Rogers. Thank you. Who else was here? Oh, David Leporati. Thanks to everyone that sent photos in. That was a massive your images segment. Who else? We got ltk. Thank you. Phil Thompson's. Everybody, everybody and everybody. David Skinner. Paul. I don't know, I just like this part of the song and I like to talk. Until this comes on. [02:30:14] Speaker C: You've officially pushed it an hour over Junior. [02:30:17] Speaker A: Okay. Perfect. All right. Oh, Robert Varner. Good to see you. Okay. All right, we'll call it see you guys next week or on Thursday. On Thursday. Don't miss Thursday. [02:30:29] Speaker B: Yeah, Grant Swinburne's joining us.