The Future of Editing? The Random Photography Show (EP165)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sam. [00:00:30] Speaker B: Well, welcome back to the Camera Life podcast, everybody. It is Monday 16th March, if you can believe that, and we have got an action packed show for you tonight. Well, maybe not action packed, maybe just packed, because I'm, I'm going to stay seated. Seated. Seated, seated. I made up a word. Stick around tonight. We've got a fair bit to get through, but a couple of tease previews for you is we've got Charlie Blevins here from Fujifilm Australia to talk about the upcoming Fujifilm Creator Summit in Melbourne, not Sydney. I know, Melbourne. We'll get to that in a minute, but we've also got some other bits and pieces that we're going to cover off at. Plus we're going to take a look at the potential future of Photoshop editing. So stick around for that. Now, this is of course, the Camera Live podcast. We, we do this twice a week. We record live Every Monday evening, 7.30pm Australian Eastern Daylight or Standard Time, Melbourne time, basically, not Sydney, Melbourne. And, and then again every Thursday morning we have an amazing photographer who joins us on the show for a live chat, 9am Australian Eastern Daylight or Standard Time, to learn all about their craft, the journey and what got them to where they are today. In fact, if you want to see Charlie's episode, you're going to have to dial way, way back. I'm pretty sure it was like episode 29. It was one of, the first, one of the first podcast I was involved with. Yeah, a long time ago. 29. I've lost count of what we're up to now. It's like 170 or something. But what else was I going to say to you guys? Oh, yeah, but if you, if you don't have time to watch this or maybe you want to just listen along while you're at the gym or on a drive. We are available on all good audio podcast channels as well. And, and obviously twice a week live here on YouTube. [00:02:14] Speaker A: That's it. We are live. We're live right now, Greg. And there's people in the chat. Look at them, they're pouring in, coming out of all. LTK's here. David Skinner's here. Greg Carrick is here. He's probably doing his own radio show as we speak. Yo, dudes. Yo indeed. Nick Fletcher's here. Bruce Moyle, Tweak Productions. Who else? Rick Nelson, Lisa Leach, Digifrog from Tassie, Philip Johnson, Brett Wooderson. Oh, and of course, Dennis First. School of Light says, oh, boy, I need you lot in my life today. We need you too. Dennis, anyone else? Oh, and Lucinda and Robert Varna from New Jersey. They're all dropping in. Paul Henderson. Good to be back. It is good to be back. [00:02:57] Speaker B: Yep. Now, in case you're new here, I'm Greg and to my right or left, I can't work it out. Justin's in the middle. And of course we are joined today by Charlie Blevins from Fujifilm Australia. How have you been, Charlie? [00:03:12] Speaker C: Hey, been pretty good, Greg. Thanks so much for having me on here. Justin and Greg of course. [00:03:17] Speaker A: Anytime, every time. [00:03:19] Speaker B: Anytime, anytime. Now, there's a fair bit going on in the Fujifilm space at the moment. Obviously the greatest camera developer, manufacturer, designer in the world, there's no doubt about that. And there's a few things that are happening right now and coming up in Melbourne for Fujifilm fans just very quickly. We've talked about this on the show previously, but you guys have a pop up store happening in Melbourne at the moment. Do you want to tell us just very quickly about that? [00:03:49] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. So in Chadstone, like we call it our Fujifilm experience, a house of photography experience because we have one in Cine where we showcase every single lens and every single body, every single. And our specialist there who knows our gear quite well. And so quite often there are many folks not just in Sydney but all over the country, like, oh, it'd be cool if there was something like that similar in different parts of the state. So of course we just want to provide that experience for Melbourne and be like, well great, come and experience our gear, come experience specialists. And we do have workshops that are taking place there as well. So I was there for a good maybe about eight days and I'll be back again this Friday to Saturday. And it's just been overall just such a great experience of just meeting a lot of just not even just not Fujifilm users, but folks who are just generally interested of just in the craft and asking questions like, oh, how can I do this, how can I do that? So I look at it as an experience for folks to just be really equipped for, for whatever season that folks are in. [00:04:47] Speaker B: That's pretty cool. And do you think that this, this might become a, like a, a roving pop up display? Do you think it'll head to other cities or. [00:04:56] Speaker C: I'm not too sure. I mean it's something that, you know, the team has to kind of discuss and hear the feedback overall. But I think at this stage, you know, we just want it to be a really positive experience for, for those who love Fujifilm or who just Loves photography in Melbourne. [00:05:09] Speaker B: Yeah, nice, I think. Nice. [00:05:11] Speaker A: It's a great idea because as much as there's tons of great camera stores in and around Melbourne, but it's a big demand for them to stock everything from every brand. You know, obviously it's the product ranges are so big and even a friend of mine who's been borrowing my Leica Q3 for a while now, about four weeks, because she's, she's an ex pro photographer and has now got sort of just a regular career and she's been out of photography for probably more than five years, I think mainly. And she's like, I want to get back into something that's just about photography. I'm not doing professional work. It's just for me, for travel, for that sort of stuff. And she wants something small and obviously the Leica's been on the list, but she's also been kind of looking at Fujifilm but not sure about crop sensor and stuff like that. And I was telling her about what Greg shoots with the XC5 with a nice prime lens would be ideal, but she went to Melbourne and couldn't, couldn't track one down to get hands on with it. And I was like, there's a, there's a pop up shop that's going to have everything, so hopefully she'll make a trip down. [00:06:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:06:19] Speaker A: Do you, do you have an XE5 at the pop up store? [00:06:23] Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. We have that in every camera body and believe every lens is there as well. So it's definitely a great experience to kind of see different combos. And you know, I like to think of cameras as a glove that sometimes when you actually hold it, actually holding your hand like, it may just feel just right, but other times you're like, oh, the grip isn't that good of whatnot. And then you may feel like actually I resonate better with that, that camera body in itself. So it's really important just to be able to test it out. [00:06:52] Speaker A: Yeah, super, super important. [00:06:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:54] Speaker A: Greg, I just, I just, I just got a missed call from Nick Fletcher. Sorry, Nick, my phone wasn't on the, on the, on the loudness thing. So feel free to call back anytime. Oh, Charlie, we've got a live call in number now, so people can just call the show. It's crazy. Yeah, we'll see. [00:07:08] Speaker C: So cool. [00:07:09] Speaker A: We'll see if he calls back. Yeah, hang on, he's coming. Oh, he is. All right, let's see, let's see what Nick said. Fujifilm fan. Well, let's see if we can get him to actually connect to the audio. Can you hear us, Nick? No. Yes. Maybe. Come on. Hold on. We're almost there. The roadcast is coming back to life. It's waking up. Can you hear us, Nick? Nick? Anything? Oh, gosh. Every time. Well, no, he's still there. He's still there. Yep. Anyway. Anything, Nick? Sorry. All right. Rodecaster's not playing ball tonight. [00:07:59] Speaker B: All right, let's move. [00:08:00] Speaker D: No problems. [00:08:01] Speaker B: Oh, there he is. [00:08:02] Speaker A: There he is every time. Just when you're about to come. [00:08:07] Speaker D: What I love. What I love is the longer you do this, the slicker you get. It's seamless now. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Isn't it amazing? It's like magic. [00:08:15] Speaker B: They're calling Houdini. [00:08:17] Speaker A: Anyway. What's up, Nick? [00:08:19] Speaker D: I was ringing to give a quick advertorial on the Fuji shop, because when I go up to Sydney, which is every week, I stay exactly opposite. And I. As you guys know, I don't shoot a lot of Fuji. I mainly shoot Nikon, but I have got a couple of Fiji Play cameras. And you can just wander in there and go, hey, I think this does double exposure, doesn't it? And they'll go, yeah, here's how you do it. And what I love even better is if you go in and say, oh, I want to get a X106. Do I order it with you? They'll often say, no, it's actually faster. If you just go down the road and order it in camera house, you'll get it faster. They're not there to sell you anything. It's wonderful. [00:08:57] Speaker B: Yeah. You can buy from them if you want to, can't you? [00:09:00] Speaker D: Oh, you can't. You can do. But they won't. If they know you can get it faster somewhere else, they'll send you off to do that. [00:09:05] Speaker B: That's great. They're just. [00:09:06] Speaker D: They're just there to make your life better through Fuji. It's wonderful. Like, so if you're just curious, but you don't actually, you know, if you want to buy something, just go in and they'll be delighted to spend time with you. I love them. [00:09:18] Speaker B: That's great. That's good feedback. And I especially love this. It's a specialized store. So, you know, like, Justin was talking earlier about going into camera stores, into retail stores. You can't expect the shop person on the floor to know everything about every camera from every brand. And so you can go and ask very specific questions. Like, you said double exposure or, you know, how do I. How do I set it up to suit this? You Know, how do I get it ready for video? And you can speak to someone who knows the gear inside and out. I think that's. That's priceless. [00:09:47] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:09:47] Speaker A: Love them. Is that Nick? Is that how you ended up with your GFX100RF? [00:09:53] Speaker D: Well, no, I actually got choked down, if you remember. [00:09:55] Speaker A: Oh, yes, I do remember the story. That's right. That's right. They tricked you into it. [00:09:59] Speaker D: Yeah, that's exactly right. [00:10:05] Speaker A: Awesome. [00:10:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:06] Speaker A: All right. Anything else, Nick? [00:10:07] Speaker D: See you later, boys. No, so keep it, keep it up. Oh, great. Love the stuff you're posting on the Facebooks the other day. That was beautiful. [00:10:14] Speaker B: Thanks, mate. That was all shot on Fujifilm. [00:10:18] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:10:18] Speaker B: So, you know, see ya. [00:10:20] Speaker A: Thanks for the call. That's how seamless it is, Charlie. That's how seamless it is. Our tech is second to none. [00:10:28] Speaker B: Technology stepped up a notch, but a notch nonetheless. Now, Charlie, of course, the Melbourne Pop Up Store, House of Photography Pop Up Store isn't the only big thing that's happening for Melbourne with Fujifilm this year. We, we have an event coming up very soon. Do you want to talk to us a little bit about the, the upcoming Fujifilm Creator Summit in Melbourne? [00:10:50] Speaker C: Yeah, absolutely. There's. Man, there's so much to share about it. I mean, to understand Melbourne, we need to understand what took place in Sydney is that, you know, last year we had our Creator Summit that was in Sydney, myself with the team, like, you know, we all made the decision to say that, you know, for this Creator Summit, we want it to just be so much more bigger than, than ourselves. Like we need to create a space for creators to come in, whether you're into photography, videography, content creation, all of the above, and just create the space for folks to actually come and learn from the experts and learn from brands who are really, really excited about their craft. And from that experience that we learned is that the appetite wasn't only. Wasn't only just for Sydney, but it was a national experience. Like we had folks that would fly in interstate wanting to get a taste of what we had to offer in that space there. And so through the feedback that we realized that Melbourne was such. There's so much opportunity there where a lot of folks really wanted something similar to take place there. So after we're taking the feedback and through relationships and through conversations, the Creator Summit for Melbourne has been established. And so a couple key things about that is that it's going to take place on the 9th of May, which is a Saturday from 10am to 6pm at the was it. The timber yard in Port Macquarie. [00:12:10] Speaker B: Port Melbourne? [00:12:11] Speaker C: No, Port Melbourne. Does that say Port Macquarie? [00:12:14] Speaker B: Sorry? [00:12:14] Speaker C: Port Melbourne. [00:12:16] Speaker A: That's the annex. [00:12:17] Speaker B: Port Macquarie annex. But mostly in Melbourne. [00:12:20] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, that's it. That's it. And so for every ticket holder, so I think tickets are about $45 just for the early bird. But in terms of value, like, you know, you have 20 plus sessions, you got 15 plus creators that will be there and each ticket holder will have a $250 value in a goodie bag. And of course, with Alpaca, you will also get that custom tote bag as well. Yeah, that's pretty much what it is in nutshell. But I could talk about speakers and partners, but I'll talk about that in a bit. [00:12:50] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that sounds really cool. I mean, I remember last year when it was on in Sydney, I was, I felt a bit bummed out by not being able to go up and, and take part. You went up, didn't you, Justin? [00:12:59] Speaker A: No, that was the. What was it called? The. The more. The Frame Fest. The, the one that was like the more generic. No, it was sort of like they had it like Fujifilm had a huge presence at Frame Fest, so. Yeah, but it wasn't Fujifilm led. [00:13:16] Speaker B: I got that mixed up. Now you were saying, Charlie, you do have a lot of presenters coming up and just looking at the schedule, there's a hell of a lot going on and you've even got some of our past guests joining you. Michael Coyne, Russell Ord. Who else have we got there? Yourself, obviously. We've had you on the podcast. So when you say that there's sessions, what are these sessions that you're referring to? What can people expect? [00:13:41] Speaker C: Yeah, so for example, like, you know, when you think about our key speakers. So we got Tony Lodge and Ryan John, so hosts of the Tony and Ryan podcast. So for example, they're doing a whole talk on building a community that shows up. And so in terms of their podcast as a whole, it's really just about how to just be genuine in the way that they connect with their audiences. Another guest speaker we have is Jordan Hammond, who's a travel photographer and his sessions about, you know, travel content through meaningful work. And so there's some like, inspirational talks that are going to take place during the day, but there will also be some hands on workshops that will take place too. So I believe, like VUI is doing a workshop of just how to photograph drinks and I believe James Tran is doing a workshop on how to photograph in very low light settings and then Myself, my workshop, it's about craft, rhythm and heritage on how to photograph Tao, which is quite exciting too. So we want it to just be really practical for, for the, you know, or provide these experiences for those who don't really have the opportunity to kind of photograph these kind of out of the box kind of experiences. [00:14:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I, I'm particularly. We talked just before we went live. I'm very excited about the Taiko drumming workshop to be able to capture that action because it's quite a powerful and a energetics musical act, I guess you'd call it. I'm not sure, but. But yeah, that, that's certainly. That certainly caught my eye. But there's a whole bunch of stuff going on and often I saw that some of the workshops and sessions are repeated throughout the day just so that if you missed out in the morning session because of a contract with something else, you can do it in the afternoon. [00:15:16] Speaker C: That's correct. Yeah, that's correct. So it really is a choose your own adventure. So. So if you don't really resonate with one type of workshop, there's definitely something. There's an appetite for everything that's there. [00:15:26] Speaker B: Yep. And you mentioned some of the partners that are going to be involved and obviously Alpaca was a big partner for you guys last year and they're back again this year. Who are the other partners that Fujifilm have roped in for this? [00:15:39] Speaker C: Yep. So we got alpaca, we got BenQ, we got Adobe Atomos, let's see. See Leophoto, Nisi, Nanlite and Road. [00:15:51] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:15:53] Speaker C: That's all of them there. So, you know, as I said in the beginning, it's like when it comes to brands, like, we just want to ensure that we resonate really well in terms of. For those who are just really about giving back, like to the community and you know, through their knowledge and through their experiences too. Yeah. Expect those brands to really show up at the creator summit. [00:16:11] Speaker B: Yep. Very cool. Now this isn't the first time that Fujifilm have held this kind of event at the, at the Timber Yard. Years ago there used to be. [00:16:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:23] Speaker B: What was it? People with cameras. People cameras, that's right. Yeah. And one of them, one of them was at the, at the Timber Yard, Right. I think it was the second or the third year it was on. I can't remember. Greg Carrick might know. He was there. But it's. That was such a great event. It's very similar kind of theme about giving back to the community, providing opportunity and scope for people to Explore photography, regardless of what your genre is or your skill level. And I imagine that this Creator Summit has obviously, you know, is a, is a evolution of that, if you will. [00:16:56] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I believe, like, when it comes to community engagement, when it comes to events, like something that we've learned over and over and over again, is the feedback is often, when's the next one? Or can we try this? And you know, I think it's just, if you've ever been to any photo walk, in any community group, the reason why people would actually come is just through genuine connection. And I believe that, you know, when it comes to the Creator Summit, that's exactly what we want to establish, is to create those opportunities for those genuine connections they would often find in the, in the photo walks or that you often find in photography events that would take place in various cities as well. So we just thought, let's just get it all in one place and then make it one of the best, best days that we could. Best, best day so far. [00:17:42] Speaker B: Now a question for you. Last year's Sydney event was over two days and this year's Melbourne event is over one. Is it a more condensed experience or, you know, is it, is it just. Basically you've learned a lot from last year's event and, and you've kind of fine tuned at this time. [00:17:58] Speaker C: I believe it's, it's fine tuned. And you know, because it was our very first Creator Summit, there was definitely a lot of learnings that we got from that. So I think, like, when it comes to the duration, like, it's not a reflection of like, oh, we should have done it one day or two days, whatever it is, we just find that, you know, in this current stage of just the planning that we actually find that actually to tick all these boxes of just, we want it to be impactful, we want it to be meaningful, we don't want it to feel like it's something that will just continue on for multiple days. We just found it for this period of time, like, this was a sweet spot to take all those boxes. [00:18:30] Speaker A: When I saw that change, I, I thought that was probably not, not that I got to go to last year's event so not knowing anything about how it went, but just, it's a positive one in terms of, yeah, maybe some people might not be able to go on that exact day, but in terms of getting everyone in the one space all at once, you're not guessing, oh, will the Saturday be better or will the Sunday be better or would, you know, like, it Takes the decision out of it and you get. And you're going to cross paths with everyone that's there. So if a friend is going as well or you know, like I just. Yeah, I actually thought it was probably a better plan just to be like, hey, let's all get there on the one day and you don't, you don't have to think which one's going to be the better day to book your ticket for. [00:19:07] Speaker C: Exactly. Yeah. We want it to be really clear. And I kind of feel like that's been the feedback that we've got too is like, you know, in terms of timetable, they're not comparing which, you know, which day is better because really both days are good. Just come to both. But in this case, you know, we're glad that it's just a one day and you know, if you're able to come, please do come. I noticed John Pickett's comment that says, will there be workshops where we can take photos or is it only presentations? No. So there will be hands on opportunities. So for example, the workshop that I'm doing, it'll be very hands on that we encourage every attendee to come and bring your own cameras. There will be some cameras to Fujifilm Cameras to test as well. But there will be a really great spread of just different experiences for you to take photos and videos as well. [00:19:53] Speaker A: Nice. [00:19:53] Speaker B: It sounds pretty cool. It sounds pretty cool. And so tickets are still available obviously because I can see it on the Fujifilm website. Is that the best place for people to find and to buy their tickets? Go to the House of Photography website which I've dropped in the chat. [00:20:08] Speaker C: Exactly it. Yep. So yep, if you go on that website, fujifilmhousephotography.com au it is literally $45 at the moment. That's Early Bird. The pricing, I believe it's like March. I gotta double check the date. It's like late March. That's when the Early Bird would actually finish. So if you haven't got the Early Bird, it's. It goes up about I think 10 or 15. [00:20:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it says here the 10. 31st March is when the Early Bird offering ends. [00:20:37] Speaker C: Yep, yep. But yeah, so you can see right off the bat that for 45 you're getting a $250 value alpaca tote bag with a bunch of goodies inside. 20 plus sessions, 15 plus creators, and just really a great place to network with other creatives as well. So it's gonna be such a good day. [00:20:55] Speaker B: A couple of quick questions, Charlie. Amenities you Know what will be. What will be available for people that want to make it a big day? [00:21:04] Speaker A: Yep. [00:21:04] Speaker C: Sorry, what do you mean? [00:21:06] Speaker B: Like food, you know, drinks. Yep. [00:21:10] Speaker C: Oh, so there will be. Yeah, I need to double check on that. But I remember on the FAQ on the House of Photography website, food and drinks will be provided or, sorry, not be provided. It'll be available on the day everyone gets free food. Nope. But yeah, so there will be opportunities to purchase food and drinks just at the location. I just can't recall if it's actually trucks or if it's just a one kind of location. A central location for folks to get food there too. [00:21:38] Speaker B: Yeah. And also just looking at the faq, it is mobility accessible, it's fully wheelchair accessible, which is great. And there's also advice there on how to get to the timber yard from Melbourne cbd. If you're, if you're coming into town for it and using public transport, there's some instructions there for you as well. But yeah, Charlie, just any, Any hopes or wishes for the festival from you personally as. As both as a Fujifilm photographer. You've been a Fujifilm photographer for almost as long as me, I think, and obviously now you've been. Yeah, it has been a while. You've been working for Fujifilm Australia for quite some time now. What's the biggest takeaway that you can hope for from the upcoming Creators Summit? [00:22:24] Speaker C: It's actually one of the hardest questions, Greg. I would probably say my biggest hope is for folks to fall in love with their cameras again, like just generally fall in love with it. So you could really just want to go out, take photographs, take videos and not look at it as a workhorse, not look at it as, you know, like, ah, like it's a bit intimidating, but we want it to be really liberating, to feel like, great. Now I actually understand how to use a camera a bit better and I've learned it from all these experts. So then at that point the next day you're like, okay, I cannot wait to go on shoot. So I think for me that's the biggest hope and personally that's how probably measure their success is people willing to pick up their cameras and use it. [00:23:06] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's. Yeah, I love that too. I think that's beautiful. Well look, you know, on behalf of us all here, I can see in the chat that some people are commenting and someone's already booked a ticket, I think. Lisa. [00:23:17] Speaker A: Lisa. Yeah, [00:23:21] Speaker B: so we get to catch up, which is great. But looking forward to seeing you again. Either this Friday at the Pop up or when the Creator Summit rolls around, which won't be far away. Can we just have a reminder on the dates please? Of the summit? [00:23:35] Speaker C: Of the Summit. It's on the 9th, 9th of May, which is a Saturday from 10 to 6pm Yep, yep. [00:23:42] Speaker B: Great. [00:23:42] Speaker A: Timber yard. Port Melbourne. [00:23:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:45] Speaker C: Not Macquarie. [00:23:45] Speaker A: Melbourne, not Macquarie. [00:23:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:48] Speaker A: Don't go to Port Macquarie. No other ports. Just the port. Just Port Melbourne. [00:23:51] Speaker B: Just the local one. Well, look, Charlie, on behalf of us all here, thank you so much for dropping by tonight. I know that you've been super busy lately. I feel like we barely ever get to talk, but, you know, we wish you all the best for the event and I'll definitely be there. I'm not sure about Justin yet. He's. He takes a long time to make [00:24:11] Speaker A: decisions, so I might be overseas if. If I'm in Australia, if I'm in the country, I'll be here. I'll be there. [00:24:16] Speaker C: Okay. We could FaceTime and you could be there. [00:24:20] Speaker A: I'll. I'll just get Greg to walk around with. With a camera. The ENT live stream at Zoomy. [00:24:25] Speaker B: That's it. But yeah, look, all the best for the popup and for the upcoming Creator summer. And we look forward to catching up with you again, no doubt, in the near future. [00:24:34] Speaker C: Great. Thanks very much, Craig. Thank you, Justin, for having me on the podcast and looking forward to connecting again soon. [00:24:39] Speaker A: Yeah, awesome. [00:24:40] Speaker B: All right, you be safe and take care. [00:24:41] Speaker C: All right, thank you. [00:24:43] Speaker B: See you, Charlie. Thanks, mate. [00:24:44] Speaker C: All right, see you. [00:24:45] Speaker B: Bye. [00:24:46] Speaker A: See you. Very cools. [00:24:49] Speaker B: There you go. [00:24:50] Speaker A: Yeah, you'll love that place, Greg. You won't. You won't want to leave. You won't want the day to end. You'll just be running around dressed in green. Yep. Like it's Christmas. [00:25:00] Speaker B: I can wear my new Converse, my Fujifilm. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Yep. [00:25:04] Speaker B: Bust those out of the glass cabinet that I've put them in. [00:25:06] Speaker A: I think I've got a hat somewhere. I've got an X hat. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Oh, you've got one of those somewhere too, actually. During COVID Was it during COVID It was sort of towards the end of COVID I went up to Sydney to meet up with a few of the peeps from Fujifilm Australia. And they even had Fujifilm X cloth, you know, face masks for. Oh, for Covid. [00:25:31] Speaker A: One of those things that. That you're gonna find one of those around the house in 30 years and be like, oh, remember that. [00:25:42] Speaker B: All right. Yeah. Well, should we get into the. Into the show proper? [00:25:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll just. I'll Just quick double check that we didn't miss anything in the. The live chat while that was happening. Bruce says I need to go to the summit so I can talk to someone at road. Yes, Yes. I. I'm. I promise you guys, I'm not doing something wrong with this roadcaster. I've done everything. I've updated the firmware, my phone's up to date. I've checked and reconnected, disconnected inside out, upside down. And I can't. I can't get it to work. So maybe. Maybe someone from Rode can help us. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Yeah, bring it in with you. Who else comes to the summit? Bring it with you, and we'll slam it on the table and say, what's going on? [00:26:24] Speaker A: What's going on? And I bet you they'll be like, oh, you've got this setting wrong. And I'll be like, oh, okay, it was me. Sorry. Bruce Moyle says there's a new term, Fuji Curious, which is what happens when your current squeeze or camera gets boring. And that. I think that is a real thing. I think it's a brand that a lot of us start, like, sort of turn to probably kind of like Leica as well. But Leica is so expensive. They're those two brands that, like, if you kind of get bored with your Canon, your Nikon, your Sony, your OM System or whatever, those other. The Leica and Fuji, they're the brands that everyone sort of looks over the fence at and is like, what do they got over there? Maybe I need that. It's looking pretty good anyway. [00:27:08] Speaker B: Can't. Can't hurt to look, right? [00:27:11] Speaker A: It doesn't hurt to look. [00:27:12] Speaker B: It doesn't hurt nothing to have a squeeze. [00:27:15] Speaker A: It costs a lot when you end up buying one. [00:27:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Not as bad as a Leica. [00:27:20] Speaker A: No, this is true. I think mine's. So I just got mine back from the loan and I'm going to have a bit more of a play with it. But it's. It's very much. Its days are numbered, I think. Unless it. Unless it really wows me in the next three weeks. [00:27:37] Speaker B: Hey, you should get an X out on its EF with a little compact pancake. 23F 2.8. I know a guy. We'll set you up. [00:27:45] Speaker A: I would like to have a good long test with your XE5 and have a. And have a play around with it. But I don't. Yeah, I don't need it. [00:27:54] Speaker B: It's not about me, Justin. [00:27:56] Speaker A: Okay. [00:27:57] Speaker B: About want. The world's on fire. Have you not looked at the news? Life Is. This is what I told Nev Clark. This is how I convinced Nev Clark [00:28:04] Speaker A: to get a Q3 life short. Buy the Q3. We're almost out of fuel. Just get the Q3. [00:28:11] Speaker B: Go get it before you can't afford to drive to pick it up. I'm saving you money. Really. [00:28:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:28:17] Speaker B: So, you know, anyway, yeah, you need. You need a Fuji camera. Another one? [00:28:21] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, there was. There was questions. About what? About a Camera Life meetup at the summit. I think Bruce asked about that and Lisa Leach. Yeah. And Bruce said if there's a Camera Life meetup, I might look at flights. But no promises. [00:28:38] Speaker B: Hey, Bruce. [00:28:38] Speaker A: Bruce. So, yeah, look, I. If I'm there, we would absolutely do that. If Greg's there by himself, that's a lot of. That's a lot of pressure to put on him. But he will absolutely do a meetup if. If he's there by himself with all of you guys and for sure. And lucky, lucky straps can shout the coffees and the whatever else. Since I'm not there as long as me, because. [00:29:00] Speaker B: Because these are recorded. We now have proof. He said plus whatever else. [00:29:05] Speaker A: Well, not. No, he can't. Not everyone can get an X100 if that's what you think, plus whatever else. You can all have X halves. [00:29:17] Speaker B: I think Charlie's still in the chat. You'd be good. [00:29:21] Speaker A: Hey, that's, you know, still good for them. [00:29:23] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, sorry. [00:29:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:28] Speaker B: There you go. [00:29:29] Speaker A: I got that kind of cash. [00:29:30] Speaker B: I'll talk to Jim. He's got the spare credit card. I'm not allowed one yet. Wonder why. [00:29:37] Speaker A: Should we go to the news? [00:29:39] Speaker B: Let's talk about some news. [00:29:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Let me press my button. [00:29:46] Speaker B: I like how you can press your own buttons. [00:29:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:29:48] Speaker B: It's time for the news, folks. Again, a bit of a quiet week. There's still stuff to report, but I think everyone's still catching their breath from CP plus, which was the Lens of Palooza, as I like to call it. So many lenses. So many lenses came out in the last couple of weeks. It's huge. And rumors of lenses and, you know, first specs and all that sort of stuff. So there's a lot of action happening, which is great. Good for the industry, good for us. But there is some new stuff going on. But before we jump to the news proper, so we just look at a couple of quick social media posts. [00:30:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Do you want me to pull them up? [00:30:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, look, there's a Fujifilm one at the top of the page. [00:30:31] Speaker A: God. [00:30:32] Speaker B: Okay. [00:30:36] Speaker A: What are they doing? [00:30:37] Speaker B: As the Fujifilm episode. [00:30:39] Speaker A: Are they putting you up at Crown or something during the creator summit? What's happening here? [00:30:43] Speaker B: Well, gotta pay off that camera. Fujifilm, Instax, I think it was Instax. Was it Philippines? Wasn't Australia? [00:30:53] Speaker A: Indonesia, Indonesia and Yeah, yeah, Fujifilm and Instax Indonesia. [00:31:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:01] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:31:02] Speaker B: So they're teasing. Something big is coming. Some stories deserve more space. A bigger moment is coming. So. Yeah. [00:31:13] Speaker A: Well, what does that mean? [00:31:15] Speaker B: Well, I'm not sure if it's a new format, like a big square format, or if it's a. Another wide camera. It's a mystery at this stage. I don't have any inside knowledge, everyone. I only just saw this the other day and look, let's face it, I mean, Fujifilm, Instax have been knocking it out of the park. What are you as popular as ever? [00:31:35] Speaker A: What are these? These dots? What do you reckon that could be? [00:31:40] Speaker B: Well, they might be something really important because remember how the last insects they released was that little cine one with the. The decades for the film simulations? Maybe it's another. [00:31:51] Speaker A: Might be something like that. [00:31:52] Speaker B: Yeah, another user experience, set of filters or looks or something. But it's interesting that they have highlighted those five yellow dots. So. Yeah, wait and see. [00:32:03] Speaker A: I mean, assuming this is real, which we would assume it is because it's on an official channel. That's a very intentional part that they've included in the teaser. [00:32:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it is intentional. [00:32:17] Speaker A: So what is that? [00:32:19] Speaker B: We'll wait and see what comes from that. [00:32:21] Speaker A: Interesting. [00:32:23] Speaker B: And I didn't. I purposely held these until after Charlie left us because I didn't think it would be fair to bombard our rumor insights. [00:32:31] Speaker A: No, no, no, we wouldn't do that. Yeah, we wouldn't do that. Unless there's rumors of an X Pro 4, in which case I probably would have thrown it out there just to see what he. [00:32:38] Speaker B: What he said there were some rumors, but they've been dropping rumors for years. Okay, what's next? If you're heading to Tokyo? If you're heading to Tokyo. I'm not, unfortunately, but Yoda Bashi Camera, which is a huge camera and electronics chain in Japan, I've spent many a good coin, often after being out drinking in Tokyo at Yodobashi Camera. But the chairman of Yodobashi Camera, Fujisawa san, has opened his own museum. [00:33:15] Speaker A: That's cool. That's proof. That's proof of the love. [00:33:20] Speaker B: Yeah. That's crazy. It's like Michael's at Michael's Cameras in Melbourne. Yeah, they did this. He did the same Thing he had all of his. All of that collection up. But yeah, this is pretty huge. Apparently there's over 4, 000 collectibles, valuable collectible camera items that he has personally collected. [00:33:39] Speaker A: If. If this was in any other city, this security would be insane. [00:33:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:45] Speaker A: But in Japan, those cabinets are probably unlocked and nothing will happen. [00:33:54] Speaker B: So. Yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. Oh, and this is where they feel about the Hasselblad. [00:33:59] Speaker A: This is where they filmed the moon landing. [00:34:00] Speaker B: I know, that's what I was gonna say. They feel they've just seen proof. But look, there's the. I assume it's a mock that. Yeah. From the moon landing. The Hasselblad camera. [00:34:14] Speaker A: Right. So this is a. Either the same model, like somehow they've got their. So say Hasselblad made three of them and only one went up there. This could be one of those sort of same models or it's a replica. Yeah, you'd think based on the way they've done this, it could actually be. It looks like it's legit, but just not the one that they left up there, obviously. I don't know if. [00:34:37] Speaker B: I don't think we need to get it. [00:34:39] Speaker A: No. [00:34:43] Speaker B: But, yeah, pretty cool. [00:34:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it's very cool. [00:34:47] Speaker B: What else is happening on the Social? [00:34:49] Speaker A: I don't know, but Nev says if he keeps buying cameras at this rate, he'll have his own music. [00:34:54] Speaker B: I'll come visit. I'll come visit. You worry, don't you worry. Jeff Bridges got his hands on one of the very first Wide Lux models. It's still got some tweaks in store and it's still got a few. Few changes to go through. But it was very sweet to see Jeff and his wife and I can't remember her name, her name. Unpacking and loading a roll of film into the new Wide Lux, which he has co founded and having this. This incredible camera brought back from basically from the dead. He's been shooting with Wide Lux for a very long time. He's well known for, on his movie sets, having his camera with him and taking photos of, you know, cast, crew, locations, all that sort of stuff. And he just loves the wide format, so. Pretty cool. It's not quite ready. [00:35:46] Speaker A: Yeah, still. Still a ways. Yeah, I think it's still a ways to go, but the fact that they're sort of putting this content out of the process as it slowly comes to fruition, I guess shows how. How involved the process is. And they're certainly not rushing anything, which is cool. [00:36:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:05] Speaker A: But, yeah, you would Imagine based on this, like this, this isn't happening. This isn't going to be in anyone's hands for at least a year. I would be guessing anyone other than Jeff Sands. [00:36:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:17] Speaker A: But that, that's just a guess. I don't actually know what they're. [00:36:20] Speaker B: Look how excited he is. [00:36:21] Speaker A: I know. Yeah. [00:36:25] Speaker B: So. Yeah. [00:36:26] Speaker A: Anyway. Amazing. [00:36:27] Speaker B: That's. Yeah, it is pretty cool. Quickly jumping back to Japan, I found this post of a photographer doing street photography in Japan with a 200 year old large format camera. [00:36:44] Speaker A: And [00:36:47] Speaker B: yeah, I thought it was pretty funny but very Japan. [00:36:53] Speaker A: Well, that's a big camera. [00:36:55] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:36:55] Speaker A: Light meter. Wow. How to get attention. [00:37:07] Speaker B: So cool. [00:37:09] Speaker A: That's fun. Yeah, it's pretty awesome. [00:37:13] Speaker B: Yep. [00:37:17] Speaker A: Dennis is keen on the wide. Lux. Dennis, how much do you reckon it's going to sell for? [00:37:22] Speaker B: Yeah, [00:37:24] Speaker A: it's interesting. I reckon it's going to be hefty, I think just based on. Yeah. The amount of development that they've had to do to get it but also [00:37:35] Speaker B: like mass producing them. I can't imagine they're going to do huge numbers to start. [00:37:42] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, 10k you reckon? Yeah. Us. Nah, I, I thought it was in Australia. Yeah. I don't. I could be way off. I thought it might be like four or five something but I could be miles off. Maybe it'll be like a. Prices. Nick's got $2,000 waiting for the wide. [00:38:02] Speaker B: Lux Murphy says it's a million at the moment. [00:38:10] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know, that's. That's a. It's a really tough one to predict whether they're going to go ultra premium, Nick Fair cut and have 5k. Yeah, well it's. I don't know. At 2000 I would sell tons of them. I reckon as long as it's. It's, you know, not a, not a toy, which I don't think it was [00:38:30] Speaker B: a 3D printed kind of. [00:38:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:32] Speaker B: Product. [00:38:32] Speaker A: Not something that's going to have reliability issues and stuff at 2000. They'd sell a ton otherwise. Yeah. You could almost see it going the other direction where they just charge 12 grand for it and it is what it is and only, only some people can afford it. [00:38:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:47] Speaker A: You know, and none of us can't. [00:38:49] Speaker B: Yeah. And finally on the social media front, I found a little video of that new TT Artisan 203T folding instant film camera. We dropped a bit of news about that last week, I think, or the week before and there's just a video showing an unboxing and it just gives you a bit of an idea. Of scale but I gotta say it's, it's a good looking product. [00:39:15] Speaker A: It does look really nice. Oh you gotta love that. Wham. Interesting. [00:39:23] Speaker B: So yeah, so that'd be fun to see when they come out and get into reviewers hands. Yeah but yeah, lots going on in the camera world. [00:39:34] Speaker A: There is. Well what else is going on? [00:39:37] Speaker B: Well we've got some proper news. That's enough with social media drama. Oh look, there's another bit of Fujifilm news at the top of this section. So Fuji you are. [00:39:48] Speaker A: No, I'm not pulling it up. [00:39:49] Speaker B: Fujikina has been announced for May 9th and 10th. Typically Fuji Kina has been the time when new cameras have been dropped and revealed or at least teased. [00:39:59] Speaker A: Hold the phone. That's the date of the creator summit. [00:40:04] Speaker B: No. [00:40:05] Speaker A: Yes. You think there might be a bit of collaboration going on there between countries of. I don't know. So you think maybe there's a something being, you know, a new product, New something. [00:40:22] Speaker B: Well, I mean that Fujikina is often used for that sort of thing. It could just be an update. We have talked recently about how Fujifilm are currently running surveys to see what lenses photographers would like to. So they're very big on community engagement at the moment, which is great. I mean they always have been I think to a degree. But yeah, Fujikina May9,10 wait to see if there's anything to be revealed. And yeah, as you mentioned earlier Justin, everyone's sort of hanging out for an X Pro 4. [00:40:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh it's that, that's the release that all the die hard Fuji people are waiting for and even people like me that it could be tempting. You know, you got a Leica or you got something else and you're like I've kind of been waiting, I've never had an X Pro and I've always wanted one. And as much as the XE5 is basically an X Pro, the new one, I'm hoping it might step ahead in some other areas. It's a heftier body which might be nice. Yeah, it'd be cool to see optical [00:41:25] Speaker B: viewfinder as well as the hybrid evf. Yeah, yeah. [00:41:28] Speaker A: So. But I think if, if it was an X Pro event, I mean they might surprise us but I think if it was an X Pro event I think there'd be more buzz considering there's been buzz about that camera for years and there isn't really at the moment. So I don't know. [00:41:45] Speaker B: Yeah, interesting. We'll have to wait and see. What else have we got coming up in the news oh, the end of an era. The Canon 5D Mark IV has officially been discontinued. I thought that had already happened. [00:41:59] Speaker A: I thought it would have as well. The D850 has already been discontinued. Yeah, maybe it was. It might have been, because I think the D850 only got discontinued earlier this year. So it might have been something like that. Where they were like, well, we're not discontinuing our core DSLR until Nikon discontinued their core dslr. Maybe, maybe that's why. But I can't imagine they were selling many new. It was probably just stock anyway. I don't know. [00:42:30] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe, but. [00:42:31] Speaker A: But yeah, it's officially. So I assume officially discontinued means shops can no longer order them from Canon. That's that. Whatever. There might still be stock left in stores, but they're no longer a product line that a shop can order. Yeah, yeah. [00:42:48] Speaker B: When we looked at the photos from Jeff Cable's trip to Milan for the Winter olympics, weren't there 5Ds on the shelves there? [00:42:57] Speaker A: Well, maybe because there's still a camera that's supported by cps, so they're going to have loan units. They're going to have tons of 1 dx's, particularly like 1 dx mark IIIs, which was the flagship DSLRs, like sports camera. Because, yeah, there's still lots of photographers using EF lenses and things like that. And I'm sure it's becoming less and less. But you can't. Yeah, you can't walk out on your pros because there could be a pro that's still using an older body in DSLR lenses at the Olympics for sure. So. [00:43:28] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I'd imagine so. [00:43:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:31] Speaker B: All right, end of an era. What's up next? Next in the news, Adobe is to pay $150 million settlement in subscription cancellation lawsuits. So basically Adobe got into trouble because they made it too difficult for people to cancel their subscriptions. And we've all come across sites and businesses like that where it's, you know, it just. They just make you jump through hoops. You know, it's easy to subscribe, it's impossible to unsubscribe, especially once they've got your credit card details. [00:44:02] Speaker A: I had that issue the other day, you know, with going to call them out, not that anyone listening to this podcast probably uses them, but this company called, I think it's called Motion Array, it's video sort of video templates and things like that for editing and signed up to the monthly thing. Yeah, no problem. Didn't need anymore. Went to is it like the plant, you go to billing, you know, go to billing and then you go to chain plans, and then it's like, change your plan because there's nothing about, you know, canceling. Going to change your plans only gives you options to go up in plan. And I'm like. And then I had to go down, down, down, down the page and there was like a tiny, just hyperlink that said about manage my plan way down this other plant. And it was, it was the hardest I've had to find for ages. I was like, oh, yeah. [00:44:55] Speaker B: And you're not tech dummy, you're tech savvy. [00:44:58] Speaker A: I've canceled more subscriptions than I can count, so I'm pretty familiar with how it goes. Yeah, it's most places. Most places seem to make it pretty straightforward. You might have to go like two steps through, but usually it's not that hard to find it. You go to the billing section. By law, it has to be in there somewhere. [00:45:19] Speaker B: Bruce is echoing your thoughts for ages. [00:45:22] Speaker A: Yeah, and Tweak uses it as well. Okay, so it's not no one listening here. I forgot we have video peeps and they don't remove you from the mailing list either, Bruce. All right, well, I'll look forward to that. I'll mark it as spam. That'll learn them. [00:45:36] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Try doing Amazon Prime. Yeah, Amazon, yeah. [00:45:43] Speaker B: Yeah. Although like Apple, I'm so embedded in Apple, I just. I couldn't even imagine how to navigate it. Yeah. [00:45:53] Speaker A: One thing Apple does do well though, is at least it has subscription management for the stuff that you sign up through Apple in a. In a sort of one place. That does make it nice to be able to go in there and be like, all right, there they all are. Get rid of everything. [00:46:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot I had that. Or that was supposed to be just for a month trial or. [00:46:11] Speaker A: So. Who's getting this 150 mil. [00:46:16] Speaker B: So basically the Department of Justice in the US love more. Hate them. This. They started this Lawsuit back in 2024, mid 24 alleged that the company hid fees and made it excessively challenging for its customers to cancel subscriptions. So Adobe and the dog settled the lawsuit today or recently. And Adobe will pay 75 million, I imagine, in fee. In. In fine. Sorry. Yeah, they'll pay the Department of Justice 75 and provide affected customers with $75 million worth of free services which they need to sign up and get a subscriber paid subscriptions for. [00:46:52] Speaker A: Right. So they, so, so the, the, so the government gets cash, but the Affected. The actual affected subscribers get a credit. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:03] Speaker A: That they have to be subscribed to use probably. Okay. [00:47:07] Speaker B: And then. [00:47:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:08] Speaker B: And then it feels like a. Yeah. I don't know what it feels like. Entrapment. [00:47:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Anyway, it's, I mean look it, it's a slap on the wrist and I guess maybe that'll at least get him to stop, you know, being so dodgy. But will it though? Probably not. Nah. [00:47:29] Speaker B: What else we got? Last bits of news. Oh, another, another camera, another iPhone slash. Samsung phone Grip. Yeah. Has, has appeared on the market. A Taliesin iPhone Samsung Grip makes smartphones more like real cameras. [00:47:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:49] Speaker B: It's a sick looking bit of kit. [00:47:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I was going to say. And it's, I think it'll be at a price point that's, you know, we've seen the Leica one, there's a few other ones as well, but this one is at a price point that's not, not a bit of a gamble. I think that Leica one was four or five hundred bucks. [00:48:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:07] Speaker A: Whereas this, this is a lot cheaper. Teleson's a brand that does make cheaper things. I've, I've actually got some Taliesin stuff that I use to do my POV videos. But that neck mount was that brand Taliesin. [00:48:20] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [00:48:21] Speaker A: So they make like little, they make little tripods and all sorts of little stuff. So this is, this is a more, you know, because it's got integrated tech in it. It's a little bit more advanced than the stuff I've had off them before. But it does look neat. I don't know. I, I, when I read this, it mainly mentioned the iPhone 17 Pro and 17 Pro Max and the Samsung Galaxy Galaxy S26 Ultra. So I'm like is it just for those or is it because it says such as. And I couldn't quite figure out whether it's only suitable or if it's, if they were just sort of highlighting those newer models. But it's backwards compatible. [00:48:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not sure. [00:49:00] Speaker A: Don't know. [00:49:01] Speaker B: Not sure yet. Early days. But it has a built in battery, it includes a ND16 filter that you can slide over your, over your lens array depending on which camera, which iPhone or Samsung you've got. [00:49:18] Speaker A: But the, it's got a built in fill light. Yeah. The. So well those, that was an optional thing. That fill light thing is like an optional flash accessory. [00:49:28] Speaker B: Flash. Yeah. [00:49:28] Speaker A: Yeah. But because it like it magnets onto this to the, the front of it as an accessory which is A clever way to do that flash. But I do like, like I'd love to play with it because look at, it's got a dial, you know, if you could just at least control like exposure compensation and half press shutter for focus and stuff, it might feel a lot more like shooting with a camera. [00:49:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:54] Speaker A: And the battery is pretty video. Yeah. Yep. [00:49:57] Speaker B: You know, being able to zoom in and out without having to do this on the screen or touch it. Touch the screen and shake it. [00:50:04] Speaker A: Yeah. So this is us pricing but it's saying for the iPhone, model 90 or create a combo which is the UV with the UV filter and the magnetic fill light is 120. So yeah, it should be pretty reasonably priced to have a play with. But we'll just have to see what phones it works with and whether it's, you know, what it's like getting it to Australia. But I like these ideas. [00:50:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Because smartphones are incredibly good at photography. [00:50:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:33] Speaker B: And if, you know, and if you can elevate your game, make it your everyday camera, you know, for just for travel or what you do, you know, getting around town, it's great. [00:50:44] Speaker A: I think so. [00:50:44] Speaker B: Very cool. I think so too. I think. Oh, you've got a bit of news yet to cover. What was your news of the week? [00:50:53] Speaker A: Well, mainly the, this one here. Anyone that's into drones might have seen that. DJI teased they put out this teaser but it was the DJI always seemed to do teasers. Some of them you have no idea what it's going to be and you go to the rumor sites and you can kind of figure it out. But the little picture they put out, you can't tell. But this one, the teaser was super obvious. And also because Insta360 had released the first ever 360 drone not that long ago, the Anti Gravity A1. This was always coming and it's obviously been probably come a lot faster because of that. So it's DJI's new Avada360 and it sort of got teased but at the same time it got teased, it seems like there's leaks, like intentional leaks all over YouTube and stuff of people actually using it. So it seems like they're trying to get it, get the info out to market ASAP to stop people from buying the anti gravity drone in the, in the lead up to the launch. You know, they don't want to miss out on any possible sales. That's not really giving me much about it, but from what I can tell, it'll be competitive. Dj, I know how to do drones. They know how to do 360 cameras now. It'll be a thing. It's not really something I'm super interested in. I'd love to have a play with one. But they're not, you know, they're not an amazing photography tool. They're a filmmaking tool. And 360 cameras have a lot of limitations with image quality. So it's more about where you can put that camera through like some pretty wild maneuvers and things like that. And I think that it's the flight experience itself that's quite special. And in Australia, I think it's still kind of illegal to fly with goggles on. So it'll be interesting because you have to have the goggles on to fly these 360 drones. [00:52:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:43] Speaker A: And in Australia that's unless you've got the appropriate licenses. Just for random punters. It's. It's kind of illegal to have goggles on. [00:52:51] Speaker B: I didn't realize that. So those FPV drones. [00:52:53] Speaker A: Yeah. There are ways around it with club like flying clubs and things like that for the FPV stuff. But as Bruce Moyle has said here to just. If you were out like in public land, as far as I'm aware, I could be wrong. So check your local drone laws. But on public land, as far as I'm aware, you do need a spotter and a license if you want to fly with goggles on. And that's primarily comes from Australia's law around or Cass's law around. You have to be able to have line of sight to your drone. [00:53:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:25] Speaker A: Be able to see it. And if as soon as you put goggles on, you cannot see your drone, you're only seeing the video. So that's the. Yeah, that's it exactly. Must be within the line of sight. So. But they do sell tons of them in Australia, so whoever's using them is. I don't know. Anyway, so that was a big one. The other one was Canon. There's rumors that we're going to see multiple powershot cameras coming this year. I hope we do and I hope we see one really nice one. That'd be great. Something with a nice big sensor and a really nice lens and, and stuff. And then maybe another couple of cheaper options. That would be very cool. And I think that's about it. [00:54:05] Speaker B: Do you think that would entice you to pick up a compact if. [00:54:08] Speaker A: Yeah, if it's something like a Ricoh gr, but in canon with maybe. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know what's holding me back from the Ricoh JR yet. Maybe it's just the price and I haven't shot with one. Yeah. But if it was something around that size and image quality, if they put an APSC in something, I'd be very excited to try it. I don't know exactly what features I'd be looking for, but the compact thing is it's always. It's always something I'm keen on, especially if I do get rid of the Q3. If I just ditch that completely, don't replace it with anything. There might be an opening for a small, like a high quality compact, but. Yeah. [00:54:56] Speaker B: Interesting. Very interesting. [00:54:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:01] Speaker B: Well, that is the end of the news. I don't think we had any other news to cover. I think that's it. [00:55:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's it. Quick day. Everything's got released. All the lenses got released. Yeah. I did see what Lauer released. Some probe lenses. Some pretty wild probe lenses. Did you see those? [00:55:22] Speaker B: Yeah. The new ones, the cine lenses. [00:55:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. They're pretty crazy and like ranging from five to 20 grand US, I think, with different angled head attachments and stuff like that. [00:55:33] Speaker B: That'll. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stereoscope heads on them and all sorts of things. Yeah, yeah. [00:55:39] Speaker A: Different angles straight through. Yeah. [00:55:42] Speaker B: I remember testing the very first Laura probe with Adam from Lauer Australia, and we went out and shot bees. [00:55:52] Speaker A: That's cool. [00:55:53] Speaker B: And so we'll be able to pass the probe like through leaves up into the. Up to the B. It was really cool. It was fun. [00:56:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. I don't. I've never seen a probe lens and thought I could do something cool with that. I just don't have any ideas for what, what I would do with it. But obviously for. Yeah, for those applications, filmmaking applications, there's some pretty cool stuff. [00:56:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of cool stuff with that, like passing through food and through, you know, little landscapes and. Yeah. [00:56:22] Speaker A: Dennis is saying, I love how progressive Lauer is pushing boundaries. We need more of that. Yeah, they, they do. They seem to just come at, you know, at every angle of that sort of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Very, very cool. And Bruce is a big fan of the probe lens. Should send you some photos. Yeah. [00:56:39] Speaker B: Oh, please do. Yes. [00:56:40] Speaker A: Yeah, we could put them into your images section of next week's show. Who else? Oh, Tweak Production says we just received a Ricoh GR in our store that we ordered back last August. Okay. [00:56:55] Speaker B: That's a hefty weight. [00:56:57] Speaker A: And Paul Henderson says Canon did have a G1X Mark III with an APS sensor. It'd be great if they updated that. Yeah, that's. That's the sort of thing that would be very tempting. Yeah. Put an APSC in something. Canon, make the lens sharp, compact. Let's do it. [00:57:14] Speaker B: Yeah. What would you pay for? [00:57:17] Speaker A: Oh, okay. Yep. Yeah, two grand. Just. Yeah, just make it nice. Don't. Don't go too crazy on the lens. Could be fixed lens. If they. If they want. I'd be happy with a short, short zoom range, but. Or I mean, if they wanted to really make the most of the body tech. Do two models. Do a fixed and a zoom. Do like a fixed. Fast, fast. As fast as possible while keeping it compact because it can't be a big, big. You know, you don't want to be. Look like a RX1R Mark 3 or something. You want to be like a nice compact camera. And then. Yeah, if they can maybe do another model that has an equivalent of roughly a 24 to 70 on it or 24 to 120 or something, and that can have a slower variable aperture, and that'd be amazing. [00:58:08] Speaker B: Travel camera. [00:58:10] Speaker A: Yeah. And people can then pick, like, what's your priority? Do you want like a sort of a street photography, fast prime kind of x100 competitor or do you want a. Just a general. Yeah, travel camera. Good for everybody. Bit of zoom family camera. [00:58:26] Speaker B: Anyway, just a little thing that I saw the other day talking about interesting lenses when, you know, I talked about how Fujifilm did these surveys to try and see what sort of lenses people want to see in their lineup. And one of the options. I can't remember the focal ranges, but it was. It was a zoom. But you either. You went from like, let's say 23 to 50, but there was nothing in between. It was either 23 mil or 50 mil. So the Zoom was kind of locked at each end without the need to travel in between. I thought that was a really interesting concept. I've never known of anything like that before. [00:59:02] Speaker A: I've always loved the idea of that, and obviously it's just not. It's not needed. I know Leica has a tri lens. It's got three focal lengths that it clicks between. And I've always thought if that somehow made the lens able to be more compact or sharper or something like that, I'd be totally fine with that. I think I'd enjoy the shooting experience more and I'd be more than happy to just be like. Yeah, let's say it's. I'm happy here at 24, 28, 35, 50. Maybe it's 4, 3, 3 stop or 4 stop sort of lens thing and that'd be great, but obviously there's probably no. If there's no benefit to it, you might as well have those in between focal lengths. You know what I mean? Like, if you could just slide through them and get every focal length, then why not? But yeah, I don't know. It's interesting concept. [00:59:54] Speaker B: It is. It is very interesting. All right, well, look, just quickly, very quickly, before we jump into our next segment, which we teased at the top of the show to talk about the future of photo editing with Photoshop, I just want to take a moment to remind everyone that the sponsor of today's episode of the Camera Life podcast random photography show is of course, Lucky Straps. Head to Lucky Straps. We make fine premium leather handcrafted here in Australia leather camera straps. To help you connect with your craft, we have straps in every possible shape, size, style, color. You name it, we've got it. Plus, you can actually personalize your straps with leather embossing as well as foil fill colored foil filled finishes. How's that for a sentence? But head to Lucky Straps today and use Code Greg and get yourself a cheeky little discount. And you will. That strap will probably outlast you. [01:00:54] Speaker A: You can't buy this one. You can't buy this one. This was from Disco Night at Befop, but this is a one of a kind. But that is leather. How fancy. [01:01:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:09] Speaker A: Visit Luckystraps.com use code Greg. I think Bruce said he was trying to book flights, but he put Code Greg in and wouldn't take it. [01:01:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I haven't quite worked out that affiliation with. With Virgin and Jetstar. You know, they keep knocking on my door, but I'm just busy. Let's head into the future of ed. All right, so what have you got cooking up tonight for us, Justin? In our special segment, look, there's been [01:01:40] Speaker A: some news come out from Adobe who have been in our our podcast thoughts for the last couple of weeks because we've been cursing them because of how expensive they are and everything else and how we're stuck in their ecosystem because they do make good image editing tools. Not saying their tools are bad, but, you know, Lightroom is great, but. So they've announced for Photoshop, AI Assistant is now available in public beta testing. It's designed to let you describe how you want your image changed to a chatbot and then either have the program carry the edits out for you or tell you how to do them. So essentially with Photoshop, not Lightroom, but knowing how Photoshop has generally worked, this is a feature that will come to Lightroom if it is well received and works because that's what happened with generative AI and all that sort of stuff as well. So if it. I can't see a world where this doesn't come to Lightroom unless it's just fully rejected by the user base. But essentially you can throw a, you know, an image in there and say, type into the chat bot, you know, please make this more a landscape image with more contrast or a brighter foreground or a darker sky or warmer tones or whatever. And it'll try and do it. What do you think? [01:03:08] Speaker B: Crazy? Well, I think that there's some, there's some positives and some negatives. The positives for me that it could be adapted into a really effective learning tool. So sometimes people don't go into fancy editing software because it's intimidating. They're not as computer savvy as you, for example. And you know, me, I don't use Photoshop. I find Photoshop intimidating. I much prefer the simpler workflow of Lightroom. That's just the way it is for me. But being able to say, hey, I really need to know how to do this. This is the image. Can you talk me through the steps that I need to follow to create layers and mask layers and all those sorts of things? From a learning perspective, I think that's an excellent idea. But from an editing perspective, I think it just leans into removing the artist from the image. Making too much. [01:04:13] Speaker A: You worried that people won't understand their tool? You know, they might like the result, but if you don't know how you got to the result, are you really in control of your art? [01:04:26] Speaker B: Yeah. And you know, and I remember reading in this article, it was on PetaPixel, no DP review about, you know, along the way you can say, oh, by the way, can you put this in the background or can you add. So there's generative AI elements to it as well. [01:04:40] Speaker A: It can, yeah, it can control those, those things. So it, it takes it. It's not just for sort of photo editing or whatever. It can be photo enhancement, replacement, full digital art creation. [01:04:52] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's the, you know, and I guess there's a lot to be said for a tool like this to help people, but I don't think it should come at the cost of creativity and genuine thought and exploration of a craft. I think this will just make it too easy for people to create substandard images and be fooled into thinking that they're great because they got their AI assistant to make them better. You know, there'll be no kind of, no ownership of the, of the end result other than a fake, oh, look at the image I took. You know, you'll get those people who, who claim that they created the image when in actual fact this AI bot did. So. Yeah, I don't know. [01:05:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I worry, I worry when it, when you don't have. And we already see it a little bit in phones, we've seen it in phones a bit when you don't have knowledge of what's happening in the edit. And as far as I know, with this, it gives you the history. You can roll back, you know, elements of what's happened in Photoshop in, in the history. But what I worry about is what if it changes things without you knowing it's changing things at the pixel level. And we know that phone cameras can do that. There was that Samsung Moon thing where everyone was bragging about how good the photos of the moon were on their Samsung phone. It turns out it was just slapping a nice shot of a moon into the photos rather than wasn't actually the moon you were taking. You know, remember that thing? Yeah. Like, what happens if we get to that where you're not sure, is this your photo or is this what it wants your photo to look like with completely different information getting put in there at a pixel level? That's, that's what I worry about a little bit. But I mean, okay, there's some comments in the chat. Greg Carrick's got a comment. So look, you know, but on the other hand, non creatives can get better images. Who are we to deny that? [01:07:06] Speaker B: And I think a big part of that crackers is it comes down to how Photoshop will label the images, you know, because at the moment, if you use an AI function in, in Lightroom, doesn't it change the metadata to say it was edited with AI? I'm pretty sure I might be wrong. But you know, as long as it's not, there has to be authenticity, some sort of authenticity process, you know, to say, well, this part of the image is real, but this part of the image or this, this part of creating the image is not. You know, we, there needs to be some sort of clear way of knowing that this was actually created with an AI assistant, that it wasn't actually the photographer doing it or the editor. [01:07:51] Speaker A: Well, yeah, but what if you look at it the other way? Let's say it's just editing. So it's essentially a prompt for the sliders anyway. So does it matter whether you prompt, you know, okay, so if we looked at it, let's take it all the way back then AI is not, you know, doesn't have the controls and we just type in. Can you increase the white balance by 500 Kelvins? Can you increase the contrast by 10? You know, so that would be the absolute, probably the slowest, most boring way of using this particular tool. But would that be any different than just moving the sliders with your mouse? [01:08:36] Speaker B: As long as that was all it was doing. But if there was a whole bunch of behind the scenes shenanigans going on, that was at the same time enhancing or altering or modifying or doing other stuff and that would be different. [01:08:49] Speaker A: Yeah, that's, yeah, that is the line that I worry about is when it, when it sort of takes it to, you know, for example, you, someone mentioned the auto button, you know, like Lightroom auto mode. And it's like, yeah, what happens when you press the auto button in Lightroom and it is actually changing the image from what was originally taken, removing stuff, cleaning things up, changing the composition and just being like there. That's what, that's what I think this sunset should have looked like because it would have been better. That's the worry. [01:09:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:09:28] Speaker A: It's kind of like when you do silly things and you go into Google Nano Banana and you say make this photo look epic and then you're like, no, more epic. More epic. [01:09:40] Speaker B: Your silly gang. [01:09:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. It's. It's interesting. [01:09:48] Speaker B: A couple good comments here. [01:09:50] Speaker A: Yeah, which, which one? Which ones? [01:09:52] Speaker B: There's a lot Greg Carrick said plain Photoshop is too difficult for non creatives, so they would like AI. Well, artists won't use it. [01:10:03] Speaker A: In which case though, I don't think it's going to be Photoshop that they use. The world, I think with the world has skipped on from that. In terms of non creatives, Photoshop's already lost that race. They're going to use Google Nano Banana Chat GPT or like people are saying built in tool tools that are built into social media, they'll be using Meta AI or TikTok AI or whatever. Like non creatives are going to use [01:10:27] Speaker B: another app altogether that's an editing app, that it's all AI driven. Like. [01:10:30] Speaker A: That's right. But they're not going to be paying an Adobe subscription to get into Photoshop and say, dear Photoshop Please add a unicorn into my family photo because it'll be fun. You know what I mean? Like that. That just won't. That won't happen in this tool. So it's not, it's not that we don't people to be able to do that, because they can already do that in a ton of AI things that. That horse is bolted. It's sort of more like, do we want to be describing. [01:10:56] Speaker B: So what. [01:10:57] Speaker A: What if you put in. You know, what if an artist put their artist statement in and then let Photoshop interpret it on that image? As to what that means within. Within the context of Photoshop's tools, do you think it'd be that? [01:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. [01:11:14] Speaker A: Do you think it could do that? [01:11:15] Speaker B: I mean, down the track, it could for sure. I don't think it could now. All right. [01:11:21] Speaker A: I don't know. What else is being said. Rick Nelson says, I wonder how consistent it will be. That'll be good. That's a good. That's a good question. Because right now. Yeah, you can get different responses from AI from the same question, you know? [01:11:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:41] Speaker A: So. So would it do a different edit on a different day, given even, you know, you gave it the same prompt. [01:11:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. Or will it. What's that software? I remember I did a. I was asked to do a review and I. I declined. But it was about the software that you feed in like 5,000 of your images and it learns how you shoot and edit and then it takes those learnings to apply to future edits. It could be like that, where it's a learning like it learns off you first. [01:12:09] Speaker A: The difference with that, though, is it learned that it learned off your previous edits where it's this, it's, it's. Yeah, to start with. It's how well you can communicate what you want via a text prompt. Prompt, which is. Yeah, yeah, that's true. [01:12:24] Speaker B: They did give a couple of examples in the article. One that worked, one that didn't. So, you know, I mean, it's. It's a beta, it's there to test. [01:12:32] Speaker A: So that's true. Yeah. [01:12:34] Speaker B: Working properly straight away. And that will obviously build on it. But, yeah, I don't know how I feel about it. I get what you're saying about how. Well, if you could just. If it's just speech to action. So, hey, Photoshop, can you raise contrast like you said, or drop highlights or can you put it in this particular curve or whatever it may be, then that's different because then it becomes almost like an accessibility tool that you can just speak what you want it to do and it will do it for you, but when it starts making decisions for itself on how your image should look, well, then that's, that's kind of different. [01:13:11] Speaker A: Exactly. And I think so. Up, up here. Bruce mentioned, I use, Bruce says I use a lot of the math functions in Photoshop. If they remove them because people now only use AI, then I'll be so angry. Maybe that won't happen now, but they will dumb it down over time. And that, that's definitely possible. But what's interesting is this chatbot might be able to teach people how to use some of the functions that you're using, because that is one of the elements that they're saying. And it might be just them sort of saying, well, rather than people having to go off to ChatGPT and type in, how do I do these edits in Photoshop? I'm trying to do this complicated thing and then get the steps. You can do it within Photoshop and not have to leave the program. And if it's sort of based around that, where it's like, hey, we can either do it for you or we can tell you the steps to do it yourself, that seems like a logical progression. But if it goes to the next step where they start getting rid of stuff because they're like, everyone just says, hey, Photoshop, please make this photo awesome, then obviously then it's going to become a different tool altogether. [01:14:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:14:23] Speaker A: Nick Fletcher says this will be like early 2000s HDR, high dynamic range. We will all come to regret our AI enhanced images, but at the time they were awesome. [01:14:36] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:14:41] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. It's, it's very interesting and I think Photoshop is obviously very well used. But when it comes to Lightroom, it would be very interesting to see because Photoshop has a lot of more complex things where it makes sense to be like, all right, I need something to help me with this complex task. But what would you do in Lightroom with a text prompt other than try and, I don't know, speed up your workflow or fix images that weren't that good to start with? [01:15:17] Speaker B: Well, I mean, some of the, some of the AI based workflow software options will, you know, they do auto culling and those sorts of things. You know, you can get it to get rid of the images where people have their eyes closed, get rid of the images where, you know, whatever, there's bin chickens in the background. You know, it doesn't matter those software, but I'm pretty sure they have plugged in plugins into Lightroom so you can kind of run this process first, then put the final results into Lightroom to do your edits, in which case it then just becomes very similar to Photoshop. You can tell it, you know, I don't see why they would stop at Photoshop. [01:16:00] Speaker A: Yep. And, and Dennis comes at it from a very good point of view as well. Which is which I do take the same kind of opinion with a lot of this stuff. He said it's fascinating how non pros think we use these tools. When I'm in a 14 hour day of editing, there are AI tools that will save me time. That's the reality. And that's the thing too. It's like don't. You can be dogmatic about not using this stuff for whatever reasons you want, but it, but to deny using it when it could save you a ton of time and you can still achieve the result that you want to achieve might be something that's sort of like a futile attempt to hold out. You know, I'm only going to use a typewriter. I'm not going to use these stupid computers kind of thing. And that can work for an artist for sure. But you know, on the other hand you might be able to save a lot of time and even get better results by embracing the tech as it moves forward. He also said back Here I used AI to create a 10 minute video sequence for a video today for from scratch lamb cutlet on barbecue. Six months ago I would have been a hard. No that I would use it that way. Oh, ten second, not ten minutes, sorry. Okay, so you've turned the corner then you've gone from hard no generating AI or whatever, but for this purpose to get your 10 second clip, it was useful and worthwhile. Bruce is all for efficient efficiency. I use machine learning tools to do lots of things, but I don't generate creative things, if that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, we, we even use AI for some of the stuff with this podcast. But, but we have a, a pretty sort of firm direction that, that it's not AIs. AI is not creating the content. No, it's not. You know, it's not going to be an AI, it's never going to be an AI podcast, it's never going to have an AI host or anything like that. But if you use AI to summarize the episode for the show notes or whatever and it saves hours of work or to put timestamps in which it gets wrong almost every week, despite it being a very simple task, Then, yeah, that's. It's. Yeah, it's all about figuring out what works for you and where your lines are, I think. [01:18:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:41] Speaker A: Anyway. [01:18:42] Speaker B: Well, we'll have to wait and see, but I think, you know, I think this is a sign of more to come. [01:18:47] Speaker A: I think so. I think it'll be lightroom within six months. [01:18:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:18:53] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll see. I could be very wrong. All right, Anything else on that? [01:19:02] Speaker B: No, No, I don't like it. Let's just move on. [01:19:05] Speaker A: You don't like it. So. Okay, well, let's finish on that. So ideally you would be like, don't put that in there. Focus on your tools. Stop worrying about this stuff. [01:19:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Or maybe bring your subscription down, you know, like make it actually accessible to people. [01:19:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:20] Speaker B: So I know they offer the mobile version, which is. That's still free, isn't it? [01:19:27] Speaker A: I don't know because I've got the. Yeah, I've got the photographers package. So I'm not sure whether it's. [01:19:33] Speaker B: I can't remember, but I don't know. Yeah. Like, is that really what people are crying out for? Or would people like a break in cost of living crisis times to not have to have their Adobe's description almost double year on year? I know. Which I'd vote for. [01:19:49] Speaker A: I know. But that doesn't help them make more money. [01:19:53] Speaker B: Oh, heaven forbid. [01:19:55] Speaker A: Heaven forbid. [01:19:55] Speaker B: The company with the global monopoly might not make as many billions this year. Are you getting me angry, Justin? [01:20:02] Speaker A: That's what we like. Bit of angry Greg for the podcast clip it rage. [01:20:09] Speaker B: But no, I. Look, it is a sign of things to come. Whether you like it or not. It is just another tool. You do have a choice. My concern is that people won't know that there's other ways to do it and they will. Will lose a skill set potentially. You know, it'll be. We'll be showing up at the Lost Trades Fair in Bendigo every year to show people how we used to use Lightroom, [01:20:32] Speaker A: the Lost Trades Fair. And you're on like a. You're on like a 27 inch iMac, just editing on Photoshop. And they're like, oh, what's he doing there? Oh, look, he's using a mouse. That's crazy. Wow. Everyone's just wheeling themselves around because they don't use their limbs anymore because everything's voice prompted. [01:20:54] Speaker B: It's like that. What's that show Wall E where they're all just in those floating chairs because [01:20:58] Speaker A: no one has any muscle left. Yeah, I like Greg Carrick in a leather apron. So you've got all like old timey stuff on, but you're using an imac. They're like, oh, look, he's a genuine old photographer. [01:21:12] Speaker B: Oh yeah. Back then glasses will be on a little gold chain around my neck that. [01:21:16] Speaker A: Back then they had to manually move the pixels around by hand. It was crazy. These, these people worked hard day in and day out. That's why he's wearing the leather apron. It could, that could happen. [01:21:29] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:21:29] Speaker B: You never know. Stranger things have happened. [01:21:33] Speaker A: That's right. I just realized I'm missing one of the. Your images images because I guess it's your image time, isn't it? [01:21:41] Speaker B: It is your images time. [01:21:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:45] Speaker B: You gotta do the. [01:21:46] Speaker A: There it is. I did it. Yeah, it's that time. Let me just whack one in. So Greg and I have been talking about the yaw images and I want everyone's opinion. I want everyone's opinion. We're thinking, just thinking, tossing around ideas about maybe making the your images section. Also, if you're new to the show, this is your images section where we look at your photos. You can send them in. We'll talk about that in a minute. We're thinking about making it one image per person so that we have more time to dig into that one image. Unless it's some sort of series or sequence and we might be able to, we might be able to fit in one or two series or sequences of multiple images a week if there's some sort of cohesive set or something like that. So what do you guys think? [01:22:43] Speaker B: Yeah, the thinking behind it, folks, is that this is our favorite part of the week. We get to be inspired and motivated and delighted by the images that you send us and we get to share them with everyone else, which is pure magic. But it's as we grow as a channel and we get more and more folks shooting through images that the show is just going to get longer and longer. And you know, I'm up for that. But Justin has an early bedtime, so we were thinking maybe we should limit it a little bit just so we can spend a good amount of time on each individual, each individual image. But as Justin said, we would make exceptions if there was, you know, you're doing a photo essay and you wanted to talk about the series of 10 or 12 images you put together for that essay, then we would put that into a week where maybe we don't have as many photos. But anyway, that's, that was kind of our thinking. We love this part of the show. We love go. We love the stories behind it. So if you are sending in images, always continue to include a story. You know, your camera settings and what your experience was like when you took that shot. But yeah, we might just, we might look at trimming it down a little. [01:23:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think it's just so David Skinner says one image, maybe two every now and then. And so that would be the thing I definitely would, would like to be. If you have say two versions of an image so you shot or you know, two different ones and you're like I'm not sure which one I should have picked for this or whatever, or two different crops or you edited one in color, one in black and white or whatever. We'd love to see those and talk about the differences and which one we like or whatever. So that would still be great. But more around the. Sort of. Around one. Yeah, one main thing. And then obviously a, a series is always a good thing if, if you've been working on a, a series of work. But yeah, that's, that's what we're thinking. Nick says definitely one image. Unless you send a GFX 100 RF to Greg, then you can submit 10. [01:24:54] Speaker B: I wouldn't say no. [01:24:55] Speaker A: I wouldn't say no either. And then yeah, Bruce Mo says keep the behind the scenes photos if they exist. Anything like that would be amazing. You know, anything that kind of adds to the story around that one image or if it's a question that you've got, I reckon that would be great. But that's what we're thinking of doing. So let us know. [01:25:17] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty keen. Drop a comment on the live if you're watching with us now and please don't forget to give us a like. Certainly helps us out a lot. Or if you're watching this later on YouTube then yeah, drop a comment and let us know what you're thinking. And we always check those out. So. So yeah, but let's get on to [01:25:35] Speaker A: any more images before we do that. If we're new to the channel. If you're new to the channel now, like ISH and 8522. Sorry, I can't pronounce that. If you're, if you're new either now or later on and you want to be part of the your images section, just email your image to justinuckystraps.com include a little bit about it, your camera settings or whatever. And especially if there's something that you're like unsure about in the image, the crop or something like that, let us know. We'd love to Bring it up and chat about it on the show. Yeah, and subscribe too. That'd be great. Okay, first image of tonight is from LTK photo. LTK says. Yeah, I really like this one. First drift event of the year. Working on slower shutter speeds. 1/30 handheld. And yeah, it's cool because the front of the car is in focus and then even the black back of the car is blurring because of the motion and then obviously everything else is blurring. I actually really like the, the change in like from red through to blue in the one frame. [01:26:51] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's very cool. And it's just such a great angle too. You know, you've got that, that front right wheel that's really sharp and that's facing us but the rest of the car's not. [01:27:08] Speaker A: Yeah, really cool. Yeah. New camera? What new camera? Which one was it? Do we know about this already? I can't remember. [01:27:17] Speaker B: Let us know. [01:27:21] Speaker A: Very cool. But yeah, great shot. Great way to start the show. And then up next, one and only I did tonight in just a strange order and I really like it. Up next, the one and only Dennis Smith. And these images. I'm going to read it out. All right, so he says Duality was a body of work. 4,500 images in total, created in the aftermath of my social media being hacked and deleted. They explore the sharp in focus Persona we create on social media and the hazy out of focus reality. Our lives often are created as single exposures. Thirteen of them were printed and shown large 2200 millimeters or 2.2 meters on the long edge. For the month of the exhibition I did weekly live performances creating new works. There is a long form exhibition walkthrough video here showing behind the scenes and the process. And that link I'll put into the show notes later but it'[email protected] duality. I only got to watch about the first five minutes of the video. I'm going to watch more later because it's about 30 minutes long. And Den just goes into the. It's. While he's still in the exhibition space. While it's still set up which is. Yeah, it looks really, really cool. [01:28:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:46] Speaker A: So I'm going to. I'll go through the other ones in this now. But these are just so striking. [01:28:56] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:29:10] Speaker A: Just beautiful. And this one's beautiful and a little bit scary. [01:29:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:14] Speaker A: For me be so cool to see that getting made. And then there's an image here that is included of the exhibition. But yeah, I definitely recommend. Yeah, yeah. The Huge prints recommend. Yeah. Going to the website because the images are on there and that video is there. I'll it put. Put it. I'll put it in the. [01:29:40] Speaker B: Yep. Dan, were those prints backlit or are they just punchy and poppy like that? Because they look amazing. [01:29:52] Speaker A: They're crazy. [01:29:54] Speaker B: Yep. [01:29:58] Speaker A: And everyone's like, everyone's pretty pumped on these. Yeah. But particularly love just how, I don't know the theme. Orange. Most of them had that really sort of strong orange. Red, yellow. [01:30:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's something other dimensional about. [01:30:23] Speaker A: Really is. [01:30:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:24] Speaker A: Thanks, Dennis. Thanks for sending those through and yeah, thank you. I'm really, really excited to watch the full video. I didn't actually know that video was. Was out and about. I don't know how I missed it. [01:30:35] Speaker B: So. And in answer to my question, he's. I asked whether he backlit. No, you're right. [01:30:41] Speaker A: There we go. [01:30:42] Speaker B: I'll do it. Whether the images were backlit. And he said no, we use the incredible old stage lights and they were incredible. Very cool. Nice. [01:30:53] Speaker A: Yeah, awesome. Okay, next. Who is up next is John Hall. [01:31:04] Speaker B: I can read this. [01:31:04] Speaker A: John says. Yeah, do it. [01:31:07] Speaker B: All right, John Hall. John says, really enjoying your image segment and thought it was about time I had a go myself. Well, we're glad you did. Everyone should have a go. If you've been sitting in the sidelines admiring everyone else's images, you know that this is a safe space to do so. So make sure you send in some of yours too. John has said these ones are unusual for me, but after watching your interview with Craig Wetchen and hearing about his walks for well being, we were inspired to try our own. I think this is beautiful. We went out last weekend to take a few photos around Sydney and this is something I've never done before, despite having lived here all my life. These were all taken on my Z6 Mark III. That's the new one. Yeah. Yep, yep. [01:31:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Great. [01:31:49] Speaker B: Little 40. Yeah. 40mm F2. I've also been playing with film emulation lately and have used the RNI codec 200 profile on the color shots. Very nostalgic look for me as it was the most common film I used back in the 80s and 90s. Funny how the sharper, cleaner and better colored the images get. The more I want softer, grainier images with crap color. Yeah. Anyway, the well being, the well being walk was a great boost for mental health. Looking, looking forward to trying one with Craig when we moved to Victoria later in the year. All the best, John Hall. That's a beautiful story. I Love it. [01:32:27] Speaker A: Yeah. That is awesome. Thanks for sending some photos in too. For the first time. I really like the. This black and white one. I think I like the way that the strike. Strong foreground lines kind of dissecting the subject. [01:32:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:43] Speaker A: And then the big black. [01:32:44] Speaker B: And there's so much negative space. [01:32:46] Speaker A: Yeah, big black negative space. It would be interesting. I think the. The. What's that thing called over on the right hand side? The like screen or whatever it is. Like the advertisement offsets it really interestingly. But I'd also be interested to see if that was all black, what would that look like? There'd be ton of negative space and I don't know whether it would have not enough balance or if it would look. Yeah. Really kind of ominous. [01:33:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, if you put it into. Into Photoshop and you ask the AI assistant. [01:33:18] Speaker A: That's right. You could just be gone. Just change it. You could put a train in there. Do whatever you want. [01:33:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:23] Speaker A: Put the Hogwart Express in there. Anything. [01:33:27] Speaker B: But John, these are great. And what a magical way to. To take an idea created by someone else and to make it your own and. And. And get something out of it. I think that's really great. Really happy. [01:33:39] Speaker A: Yeah. It. I only just saw the seagull in this one too. That's pretty cool. [01:33:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:43] Speaker A: See that on the right there? [01:33:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:33:46] Speaker A: I missed that the first time through. Yeah. Great work. [01:33:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:50] Speaker A: Inspiring. Next, crackers. Yeah. [01:33:58] Speaker B: Greg Carrick. [01:33:59] Speaker A: He says in honor of the more famous Greg C. Which I guess is you, here's one of my takes from. On a local skate park from back in 2018. The title is Ollie. I wanted to be able to use this and other photos in our town without people getting their knickers in a twist about taking photos of kids. Hence the strange cropping. I think it's good cropping. [01:34:22] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. [01:34:24] Speaker A: Yeah. However, I really like the effect. Gear was a Nikon DSLR. I guess it's pre Fuji days. 18 to 270. Zoom at 270. Wow. 1 2,000th of a second. F 7.1 ISO 400 and then black and white in post production. [01:34:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:34:43] Speaker A: That's about the last shot you took with Nikon before Fuji. Yeah. I think crops like this can often work really well removing a face from the. Because you're often. We're usually drawn to faces, especially if it's the only face in the image. And taking that away, it allows people to wonder who this is. Even. It's even hard to kind of tell what age they are, you know, is it a 13 year old or a 23 year old, it's kind of not immediately, you know, so it leaves more up to the imagination. So. Yeah, I dig it. [01:35:18] Speaker B: Love it. Yep. Beautiful work. [01:35:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:35:24] Speaker B: Next up we have David Mascara. We do. These are mostly Digital and maybe one or two with a Fuji X100. Sorry, a Fuji 100F from a man just sharing his life story to a guy who was evicted and a cop who was hurt while chasing a bad guy, he said. Then a man from Somalia that was proud of being in America and another guy trying to explain his pain to me, the last one is the main reason I really don't do this type of photography anymore. It's just too damn depressing. Have a great show. I'm actually heading to the city now to photograph something more pleasant. [01:36:02] Speaker A: Yeah, powerful photography could. Yeah, I could certainly see how it could take it out of you. [01:36:08] Speaker B: Yep. [01:36:11] Speaker A: But, wow, they're stories that, you know, maybe. Who else would tell them. Beautiful shots, david. [01:36:23] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:36:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:36:31] Speaker B: Wonderful. [01:36:33] Speaker A: Really, really cool. Nothing to say because. No notes, no notes, no notes. [01:36:44] Speaker B: Always a treat seeing these portraits. It is. [01:36:47] Speaker A: Yeah. It really is. [01:36:53] Speaker B: Beautiful work. [01:36:59] Speaker A: This one with a guitar is just. It's staring into my soul. [01:37:03] Speaker B: Yep. [01:37:06] Speaker A: Okay. Paul Carpenter. Hang on. That didn't work. [01:37:14] Speaker B: Where is my. [01:37:18] Speaker A: Paul says, managed to get a sharp shot and I've lost you guys. Just got to bring you back up on my screen. There we go. Managed to get a sharp panning shot of this x Air Force PC 9A last October. With a shutter speed of 1/200 of a second. At 400mil, ISO 100F16, the clouds are sufficiently blurry to imply movement. But what stood out for me with this one was the specular highlights on the airframe. It might just be a lucky combination of glossy paint and sun position. It's also up on the Camera Life Flickr page. I haven't seen it yet. We've been. First of all, talk about this photo that the motion in this is. I don't. Yeah, it looks like the clouds are. It looks like it's moving fast. [01:38:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:38:10] Speaker A: You know what I mean? Like everything's working to make it look. It looks like a still from a movie. [01:38:17] Speaker B: Yeah. But it was only shot at. What do you say? 1 200th. [01:38:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [01:38:21] Speaker B: That's insane. [01:38:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Zoom in. Let's enhance. [01:38:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Look at that, how sharp that is. [01:38:35] Speaker A: See the exhaust? I think. I think that's the exhaust. [01:38:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:38:42] Speaker A: That is. That is a great photo. I think the clouds really make it. If it was a clear blue Sky. The plane would look striking, but it wouldn't look as cinematic. I don't think it wouldn't have as much. [01:38:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:38:55] Speaker A: Depth in the image. [01:38:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Dennis says it looks perfect on Flickr. So we've been playing around with Flickr. You're on there now, Greg. [01:39:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm on there somewhere. [01:39:10] Speaker A: You're on there somewhere. [01:39:11] Speaker B: I haven't looked at it again since we spoke last. [01:39:14] Speaker A: Yeah, it's been a busy, busy week. I uploaded some photos. Maybe I'll bring one of mine up that's on there during the your images section just to see what it looks like. We're wondering how it can fit in with the show a little bit. Whether people can share images on there or not, we're not sure. Still playing around with it, but the image quality is good. It's fairly easy to navigate. It's hard to zoom in on images, is what I've found. Because you have to go to a different size of the file and bring up a different size. Like you have to. It's hard to explain, but other than that. Yeah. So anyway, if you are on Flickr, there's a Camera Life podcast group that you can join. I think we don't actually have control of. I think Dennis has control of it or Craig. Someone's got the administration. But get in there and have a. Have a play around and we'll see if. If it becomes something. Okay. Up next, Kyle Atwood. Kyle Atwood. [01:40:20] Speaker B: G', day, Kyle. I thought I'd send through a couple of the old motorsport shots this week, being that we mentioned them last week. They were all shot with Fujifilm XH2s and the 51 40, which is a 2.8 constant aperture. Yeah, he's got some camera settings there. [01:40:39] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think I can see the file names here. So this is number one. So this was at an 80th of a second f8, ISO 160 at 50 mil. And then. No, it wasn't. It was 1 25th of a second x6 6.4 ISO 160 at about 60 mil. Oh, gosh. And then number two was this one, which. Which is an 80th of a second, which had a little bit less blur a little bit further away. F8, ISO 160.50mil. And then the first one that we brought up is 1/40 of a second F18, ISO 160 at 113mil.w. I really like this one. [01:41:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:41:29] Speaker A: With the red and the bollard and there's just plenty of movement and a bit of tilt. Yeah. Great work. Thanks for sending in images two weeks in a row too, Kyle. It's good to have you part of the show. And you're a Fujifilm shooter, so you're an automatic winner in Greg's book. [01:41:49] Speaker B: That's right. [01:41:54] Speaker A: Okay, David. [01:41:56] Speaker B: David Skinner's up next. So David said, I thought I'd put up four shots from the Beef Up Big Bad Bus Trip 2024 and 25 to show the different content, different conditions and approach. In the 2024, I use the Sony a9.2 and killed it the next night with a sledgehammer. [01:42:16] Speaker A: Yeah. Remember that? Remember when they accidentally got him to smash his camera with a sledgehammer at befop. It was an accident, but yeah, it happened. Now that's what I would. I just want to highlight that camera took this photo. [01:42:32] Speaker B: Yep. [01:42:33] Speaker A: This is beautiful. [01:42:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's gorgeous. [01:42:38] Speaker A: It took this photo and then I'll stop and then. And it also took this photo and then the next. If you want to keep going, Greg. The next four, I think. [01:42:46] Speaker B: Think. [01:42:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:42:48] Speaker B: So the 2025 BFOP last year using the Nikon Z7 Mark II, which love it in brackets. This year, if there is a big. This year coming, if there is a big bad bus trip, I'm sure the conditions will be different again and can't wait. In the meantime, Jeff Freestone has taken me to Hotham and dinner plan in June which will be an epic day. All handheld. Didn't take a tripod with me. [01:43:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Jeff Freestone. That'll be fun. Hoffman dinner plane. Oh, look at that. But yeah, you can just see like the conditions of landscape. It's so. It just, you know, every day is so different and yeah. I mean it's almost as much as that new camera is amazing that that Z72 that you've got. It almost shows just how much being out there and trying to get the image trumps. Trumps the camera itself is what I'm trying to get out. Yeah, because. Because this is. That's a beautiful shot. Yeah. Yeah. Very cool. [01:43:50] Speaker B: Amazing. [01:43:53] Speaker A: Andrew Connor. Where are we? I don't know if these are in the order that he mentions, so maybe we won't worry too much about that. But he says after getting Samantha Olson's book, which is. Do you remember what that's called? But it's basically the photographer's guide to the Great Ocean Road. [01:44:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:44:21] Speaker A: Yeah. You'll be able to find it if you search Samantha Olson Great Ocean Road book. [01:44:28] Speaker B: She's in Japan at the moment. [01:44:30] Speaker A: I know, I see. I see. Her photos. And then I see your comments on her photos. Yeah, it's like she's teasing. [01:44:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:44:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Andrew Connor says, after getting Samantha Olson's book, I was inspired to spend Labor Day weekend down this magnificent part of our coastline. We only had two days to explore and you seriously need two weeks to see it all. But ticked a couple of the more well known spots. Apostles and Gibson Steps, London Bridge and Port Campbell coastline areas. Cliche shots of cliche places. But everywhere you go the landscape is amazing. [01:45:09] Speaker B: Yep. [01:45:14] Speaker A: That is so kind of ominously stormy but beautiful. [01:45:21] Speaker C: Yep. [01:45:23] Speaker A: Oh, I like that framing. [01:45:26] Speaker B: Yeah, that's cool. Hey, [01:45:32] Speaker A: I'll see if there's any. Yeah. Listed out a few sort of image as to where it was and things like that. But it doesn't seem like they're in order of what the file names are. So I won't bother reading them out. I'll just end up getting confused. Gosh, look at the scale. [01:45:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I see. They're going to charge people to look at rocks now, are they? [01:45:56] Speaker A: Yeah, any. Any rocks [01:46:00] Speaker B: they're looking at making it that you've got to pay. [01:46:03] Speaker A: How would they do that? Oh, because you got to pay to go down to that. Maybe that lookout area. How would they know if you saw them? You know what I mean? Like how they. [01:46:15] Speaker B: I know exactly what you mean. [01:46:17] Speaker A: Is it on a poor. Is it on a per. [01:46:20] Speaker B: No glance like. [01:46:22] Speaker A: Or timed thing? [01:46:24] Speaker B: What about a glance? Is that like a. Is that like a concession price just to have a glance? [01:46:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:46:29] Speaker B: Or to have like this deep stare. One eye or a peek of the. Quick peekaboo. [01:46:34] Speaker A: Yeah. Someone from like the. The place that runs it walks with you like this and they're like. So you've just paid for a. That's it. [01:46:44] Speaker B: There it is. [01:46:44] Speaker A: That's all you get. [01:46:45] Speaker B: Get back to the car park. [01:46:46] Speaker A: Yeah, back to the car park. [01:46:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:46:50] Speaker A: Anyway, enough of that. We have a quick flick back through all these. But yeah, some of the. [01:46:56] Speaker B: I like that one. The two rocks. [01:46:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that is definitely. Oh, hang on. This one or this one? [01:47:02] Speaker B: That one. [01:47:04] Speaker A: That one. Yeah. [01:47:04] Speaker B: Something about that I really like. [01:47:07] Speaker A: Yeah, this. And where are we? And this was very nice. Some of the comments were saying Craig Murphy says, oh, nice. I'm heading there next week for a road trip. Well, that'll be fun. David Skinner says, wow, that wave shot. And I assume by that you mean this one or these poor guys. Yeah, I think you mean this one. Well, Craig, we want to see photos. [01:47:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:38] Speaker A: Lisa Leach says they have similar permits in WA and the Car parks have rego recognition. Okay, it does. You can see both sides of that. It's really tricky, but you can see both sides of it where it's like, obviously they want to manage these places and do all that and blah, blah, blah. And then the other tricky part is like, yeah, at what point are you charging people for just seeing what the country has to offer? And you know, they're not, they're not getting some sort of special experience or whatever that needs to be ran. It's just like, hey, I want to walk over there and look at the coast. They're like, no, sorry, you can't. [01:48:18] Speaker B: Yep. [01:48:19] Speaker A: Yeah, don't know. I don't know. That's a big issue to tackle. [01:48:22] Speaker B: I get it, I get it. I just don't think it's. [01:48:26] Speaker A: It doesn't feel right. [01:48:28] Speaker B: Doesn't feel right. It doesn't feel morally right. [01:48:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:48:33] Speaker B: You know, to throw a fence up in a paywall, to look at nature, like, I get it in some places, national parks and things like that, maybe that's a bit different. I don't know. It's all a bit messy and it just gets me into a bigger rant about, you know, we're happy to pay for tanks and submarines to start a war in another country, but we can't afford to allow visitors to look at our rocks. [01:48:56] Speaker A: I mean, it'd be nice to be able to. If you could get a view from, from a ship to the rocks, from. Able to go out on those, from the submarine with the parasite. [01:49:04] Speaker B: You look at them from underneath, from [01:49:08] Speaker A: one down the window. I'm sure it's far from a perfect system, but from a visitor's point of view, I did enjoy the. And this isn't, this isn't how this would work, obviously, but the national Parks pass that they had in the US where we bought a one year national Parks pass and it worked out quite reasonable. And you can enter any national park on that pass. And it's almost just a way of. And I think because of that, it's. A lot of people would take it up because it felt almost like how people get an ambulance membership in Australia where it's like, it's kind of reasonably priced and everyone kind of goes, well, if we all do this, it sort of pays for this thing. And so if you can afford it, you do it. And even if you went a couple of days of a year, it was sort of reasonable. So I don't know if they could figure out how to do that across states rather than it being so State based. Because then it didn't feel like you were having to pay in all these different spots. It was just like, yep, you done now. But the thing in the US that makes it not perfect is that then there's. So there's national parks, but then there's also smaller parks that aren't managed that way. And so they've got a different fee system. So it wasn't like every park, but every. All of their major ones like Yosemite and where else did we go? All the ones, all the ones you've seen photos on and movies and all that sort of stuff were all covered under this one pass that you just get and then it's done for the year. [01:50:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:50:46] Speaker A: Anyway. Yeah, so maybe something like that could work in the future. But yeah, Apparently that got increased by 2 or 300% for foreigners. Wow, that's lucky for us. We just snuck in before we snuck in. Okay, so maybe scratch that. Maybe it's not reasonable anymore, but it used to be. Okay. Up next we have Phil Thompson. [01:51:15] Speaker B: Lucky last. [01:51:16] Speaker A: I think so. I'll go back through just to make sure I haven't missed anyone. [01:51:20] Speaker B: All right, let me read this out. For something very different to my landscape and weather shots, please find attach some shots from Leicester. Is that how I pronounce it? Leicester Opera's current production of Orpheus and Eurydice had the absolute pleasure of not only capturing these emotional moments amongst many other, many others during dress rehearsal, but also listening to the beautiful Miss Music and singing of the opera. FYI, the Hay Town musical is based on Orpheus and Eurydice. I don't know what that is. Hadestown. I don't. Have you ever heard of that? [01:51:53] Speaker A: No, no, no. I don't know. [01:51:58] Speaker B: Settings all at 6400 ISO. Shutters between 141, 100 and between F 6.3 to F 9. [01:52:09] Speaker A: Well done. Getting. Yeah, well done. Getting such sharp like at some of those shutter speeds and obviously not. Not right up on the subjects. Being able to hold them sharp. It's impressive. [01:52:27] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [01:52:27] Speaker A: What's he say? The camera was by Pentax K1 Mark II and lens was the Pentax 7200. [01:52:33] Speaker B: Nice. Old school. [01:52:35] Speaker A: Yeah, old school, but yeah, look, the motion in this and having the facial expression in there. That's great. [01:52:43] Speaker B: Yeah, they're really cool. Well done. [01:52:48] Speaker A: Yeah, great work. [01:52:51] Speaker B: Bit of a jack of all trades, our Phil. [01:52:53] Speaker A: Yeah, look at the. Just really stuff. Yeah, you've done a good job of capturing this for them. [01:53:06] Speaker B: That's. [01:53:06] Speaker A: They must be stoked. With that work. [01:53:12] Speaker B: Yeah, that'd be a good job. [01:53:14] Speaker A: Hey, well, depending on what the. You know, if you like it, the. The particular show or not. But yeah, if you like the show [01:53:24] Speaker B: on Ice kind of guy. [01:53:25] Speaker A: But, you know, never been to Disney on Ice. I don't think I've been to anything on ice. [01:53:30] Speaker B: No, I don't think either. [01:53:32] Speaker A: No, it's not on my list. Okay. We did it. [01:53:39] Speaker B: Well, we did. We did do it. And we're only 25 minutes over. [01:53:45] Speaker A: Yay. Sub two hours. [01:53:48] Speaker B: Charlie on talking about Fujifilm. Yeah, I mean, I'd rather the show was just all that, but, you know, we've got to do other things, apparently. [01:53:55] Speaker A: That's why I made sure I was on tonight. I was like, otherwise, this would be just great. Craig doing a Fujifilm ad. [01:54:01] Speaker B: So when you go. Yeah, everything. We would be bathed in green. Green everywhere. Well, you go, oh. [01:54:15] Speaker A: I was just gonna say there were some good comments about Phil's photos, but there's great comments from everyone about everybody's photos, so we appreciate it. Appreciate you guys getting the comments flowing. When we're looking at everyone's images, it's nice. It's good to see. And there was quite a lot of comments about the. The park passes and things. Nev says in WA you got to pay for everything. Bring your credit card. It'd be nice if it funds stopping graffiti artists. Oh, do people. Lisa Leach says, that astonishes me. Why people visit the Tarkon and scratch their name in the rocks. Yeah, that's frustrating. [01:54:52] Speaker B: It's like people go to the bamboo forest in. Is it Osaka? And scratch their name in the bamboo. [01:55:00] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [01:55:02] Speaker B: And they do it here at the botanical gardens too. [01:55:05] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I was gonna do. I was gonna bring out Flickr before. [01:55:10] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:55:11] Speaker A: Bring up one of my photos. Because I. So I thought to test out Flickr, I was like, well, I'll put some of my photos on my old photos because I don't really post much on anything. [01:55:20] Speaker C: So [01:55:23] Speaker A: I'll let you pick. Greg, where are we? My gallery walls are bare. No, they're not. I've got galleries. What the hell? Albums. I don't. I still don't know what a gallery versus an album is. All right, I'm figuring it out. I never had Flickr. I don't think back in the day when it was actually the main photo sharing website. I don't remember if I was actually on there. All right, so you can pick. Don't pick the Vietnam one. We've had that on the Show. We've had lots of the sports stuff on the show, but you can pick between sports and weddings. You'd be the. [01:55:58] Speaker B: Let's go weddings. You keep talking about how great you were as a wedding photographer. I'm yet to see any proof of that. So let's go weddings. [01:56:05] Speaker A: This is just some stuff. I even messaged Jim. I was like, where are my good photos? I don't know. Without me having to. Because all my stuff in Lightroom is. When we worked on weddings, we worked on them in. Every wedding had its own catalog. [01:56:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:56:21] Speaker A: They're not like an easy to reference thing. I'd have to go back, find the reference catalog, and then most of the images are still stored on Jim's big RAID drive at his house. So it's like it would be a whole thing for me to dig through the archives, but this is what I uploaded and I'll scroll through and you can just pick one and that can be the photo. [01:56:40] Speaker B: We go that black and white. Black and white. Top left up a little bit. [01:56:44] Speaker A: This one. [01:56:45] Speaker B: That one. Yep. [01:56:46] Speaker A: Oh, really? [01:56:47] Speaker B: Yep. [01:56:49] Speaker A: Interesting choice. So this. This is Shona. This is one of the best weddings I ever photographed. And this is her DJing this. This was an amazing wedding. Like, she arrived with her kids and her husband in the same car because she was like, why would we take different cars? Like, we want to be together. She already had kids. Anyways, it's a. A long, beautiful story. But yeah, it was. It was one of the nicest weddings I ever photographed. And yeah, this is the bride essentially DJing her own wedding on a laptop, hooked up to a sound system and just having the best time. This. Yeah, her wedding got two included. And one of these is in it. This one as well. That was explaining to her little boy that he'll be okay while. Because this was pre ceremony because he was sad that, you know, she had to go and do the ceremony. [01:57:45] Speaker B: Oh. [01:57:45] Speaker A: So, yeah. Anyway, that's very Weddings. Hey. [01:57:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I know that black and white one just because it doesn't look like a normal wedding shot. Clearly it was either a guest or the bride. [01:57:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:57:58] Speaker B: Completely out of character for what you expect to see in a wedding album. But I love it because it was so candid and obviously has a story attached to it. [01:58:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:58:08] Speaker B: It's not just, oh, here's another pose. You know, there's something going on here that's meaningful and important to them. [01:58:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so that. That's how Flickr works. We'll have to see whether. I wonder if this could work for the images section, we'll see. But that's the only thing is I can't. I don't think I can zoom in on this. No, it's already at maximum size. [01:58:32] Speaker B: Okay. [01:58:33] Speaker A: So, yeah, anyway, maybe we need just. [01:58:37] Speaker B: We need to have a meet with. With Dennis and Craig and get a bit of a shoot on Flickr and see what we can do with it for the show. [01:58:46] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:58:47] Speaker B: And the community. Yeah, [01:58:50] Speaker C: yeah. [01:58:51] Speaker A: It could be a really good thing if we could integrate into the show. That'd be great. Yeah, for sure. [01:58:58] Speaker B: For sure. [01:58:59] Speaker A: Dennis says show the image details. It lists all the EXIF data. That's the real feature of Flickr. It didn't. It didn't bring it in for this. It might. I might not have had EXIF data on that particular file. I grabbed these files off like Dropbox and stuff. We'd used them for marketing and things like that. So they weren't. But yes, some of my images pull. Pulled in EXIF data. And that is really cool because if we can just have that just sitting there, that's a really great feature. And you can even search by cameras and stuff on there to see what other people have shot with your camera or camera you're looking at and stuff. Yeah, it's pretty. Pretty interesting. And Dennis says, yeah, the quality is exceptional. The quality does look a million times better than like Facebook. A million times better. Like, the photos actually look the way they're supposed to. Supposed to. Thanks, Phil. Thanks very much for that. Very nice. Yeah, appreciate it. And Greg Carrick says, so one photo each from next week. Let's do it. Yeah, let's. Let's aim for that. We'll start. We'll start sort of heading in that direction. One image each. Send them in. Make them a good one. If there's a question about that photo, you know, put it in there. Or if there's just why you picked it or anything. Anything that we can talk about would be wonderful. [02:00:23] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. But that is a lovely place to wrap up. Thank you to everyone who sent in images for the your images section. As I mentioned earlier, it is our favorite part of our Monday evenings. We get to celebrate your work and your craft and your art. And I think we each. We each take away something from that experience which is invaluable. Something that AI can't replace. But just a couple of housekeeping things, folks. This has been the Camera Life Random photography show. If you're new here, say hi, say hello in the comments. Now or later. Give us a like. It certainly helps out a lot. It lets other people know that we have content worth sharing. 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I think I've booked out guests until June now, so lots happening. [02:02:03] Speaker A: Yeah, Crazy. Final thing. Hype steamer. How do I share my photos? It's old school. Email them to justinuckystraps.com that's me. So email a photo to justinuckystraps.Com and we will pull it up on next Monday's show next week. That'd be cool. [02:02:21] Speaker B: All right, let's dick pics. [02:02:24] Speaker A: I. Well, if. Yeah, please don't. Thanks, ltk. Thanks, Gareth. Thanks, Phil. Who else was here? Paul Tweak, Greg Carrick. Other Paul, Rick Nelson, Lisa Leech. Nev says he's got a shark pick. It's great. Cool. I don't know what that means. Craig, good to see you. Yeah, thanks, Dennis. Thanks for everything. I'm excited to watch that video about your exhibition. Philip Johnson. Who else was around? I don't know. There were so many. I've lost track of you all. Ltk if I didn't say David Skinner, everybody. Maya hall, if you're listening, thank you. And everybody, we'll catch you on Thursday. Bye, Robert. [02:03:17] Speaker B: Guys, be safe, everyone.