EP54 If Apple Made a Full Frame Camera?!? The Random Show

[00:00:14] Speaker A: Didn't we talk about red cordial? We'll just let it run a little longer. It's pretty groovy. I want to watch you dance some more. I don't know where you get that energy at this time. [00:00:28] Speaker B: I only get a little bit of dance in each show. I got to stretch it out. People will learn my moves. [00:00:34] Speaker A: Teases. He does tease. And for those of you watching and listening along at home or in the car, in the office, this is the Camera Life podcast, proudly brought to you by Lucky Straps, handmade premium leather camera straps from Bendigo in Victoria. This is the random photography show. It's very random. [00:00:51] Speaker C: It's. [00:00:51] Speaker A: It's already. We've been preparing for this for an hour, and it feels very random. And it's 20. [00:00:57] Speaker D: Randomly late. Hey, we're randomly late, too. [00:01:01] Speaker A: We are randomly late. We apologize for that. [00:01:03] Speaker D: Keep it going. [00:01:04] Speaker B: That's my fault. Sorry. [00:01:05] Speaker D: That's how random we are. [00:01:06] Speaker A: We had some family business to sort out. [00:01:09] Speaker B: That's right. [00:01:10] Speaker C: That's right. [00:01:10] Speaker A: Look after the family. [00:01:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Unfortunately, Yelena, who, who keeps all of this ship running on time, has a dislocated wrist, so she's up at the emergency department getting it fixed. [00:01:24] Speaker A: Yeah. And Justin's at home sipping a beer, chatting about photography. She's fine. We're assured. [00:01:29] Speaker B: She's fine. She's fine. [00:01:32] Speaker A: But look, this is episode 54, if you can believe it. And we are joined by a very special guest today, obviously, we've got Justin. G'day, Justin, founder of Lucky Straps. And Jim. Hello. He does stuff, too. [00:01:43] Speaker D: Hi, Greg. [00:01:45] Speaker A: Hello, mate. And we're joined by Grant Fleming. Oh, g'day, Grant. [00:01:49] Speaker B: Thank you. Hello. [00:01:51] Speaker A: Hello. It's been a while. I mean, I've never been on this show with you before. I've been promised for so long that you would be returning. And here you are, the prodigal son. [00:02:00] Speaker C: I'm back. I'm back. [00:02:01] Speaker B: He's back. If you guys want. If you guys want more of Grant, if you dig into basically most episodes between, like, 1onlyfans.com forward slash. [00:02:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just great. [00:02:13] Speaker B: He's in there somewhere. [00:02:15] Speaker A: Yes. There's a back catalog for those of you that are interested in catching up on past episodes of the Camera Life. We've got a massive back catalog. 53 episodes, and this one will make 54. We've also got all of our podcasts on your favorite audio podcast streaming platform, so be sure to check them out, like, subscribe Tickle the bell so you get notifications. But yeah, this is the. This is the random show. So the random photography show. So this is kind of. Justin's prepared a dossier of things that we have to. This is manifest of what we have to go through tonight. But it's a loose. [00:02:53] Speaker B: It's a loose guide. That's. That. That's a loose guide on the screen there on the screen. We'll try and follow it loosely. But when I made this loose guide that I was really excited about because wait till you see how it animates on the side there. I actually then was going to prepare all the content that would fit into each of those segments. And then instead, we've been at the hospital all day, so I haven't got anything. [00:03:20] Speaker D: I'm hearing a lot of excuses, Justin. [00:03:22] Speaker A: I know. I am hearing a lot of thoughts. [00:03:24] Speaker D: Okay, who's Grant? [00:03:26] Speaker A: So who is Grant? [00:03:26] Speaker B: Hang on. Before we get to who's Grant? Just as a little teaser, though, we will be talking quite, quite a lot about photo news because there's been lots of stuff getting released. Have you been keeping an idea on that sort of stuff, Greg? Have you seen what's happening? [00:03:40] Speaker A: I have indeed. I have been compiling lists today because I need to write news articles for each of those product releases, and there's been a lot of them. [00:03:50] Speaker B: So that will probably be what the bulk of the show gets talked about. There'll be other fun stuff, but. Yeah, sure they will. I. I guess start off with who's Grant? So you all know who that guy with the ginger beard is. [00:04:03] Speaker A: Not me. Mine's gone more gray. [00:04:06] Speaker B: Ready? All right. Who's Grant? Grant, who are you? [00:04:12] Speaker A: Oh, you animated. I missed the animation. You didn't tell us to look there. We'll go back to the. [00:04:18] Speaker B: Start the sound. Hang on. [00:04:19] Speaker A: Good evening and welcome to the Camera Life. Oh, we're not going to go. That button. [00:04:22] Speaker B: Start back here and then we go. Oh, no, wait, wait. I should have done this, too. Who's Grant? [00:04:31] Speaker A: All right. [00:04:33] Speaker C: It's like a quiz show. [00:04:34] Speaker A: It is a bit of a question. [00:04:35] Speaker C: What do you want to know? I'm just. [00:04:37] Speaker A: All right. [00:04:39] Speaker D: Why are you here? Why are you here, Grant? [00:04:41] Speaker A: Who are you? Grant. [00:04:42] Speaker C: Grant, co founders of the. [00:04:45] Speaker B: You were the Camera Life podcast. [00:04:50] Speaker A: Okay. [00:04:50] Speaker B: You were an avid Nikon shooter back then. [00:04:53] Speaker C: I was. [00:04:54] Speaker D: Was it? Oh, yeah. [00:04:55] Speaker C: I. I swapped to Canon, probably. [00:04:58] Speaker A: Why did you swap? [00:05:01] Speaker C: I won a photography competition and I won. I think it was a M50 potentially. And I didn't want that camera, so I went to the. It was a Ted's camera shop. And I went in there and I said, Hey, I don't want this camera. Can I have store credit? I'm looking to buy in the R5. And I traded in my trade in my 850D850 and a few lenses, and that paid for everything. Everything I wanted. [00:05:31] Speaker B: So you are one of the people that's won. If you've ever seen those photo comps that come up on Facebook where it's like JB hi Fi or, you know, Camera House or any of those places, and they're like, we're giving away. They. They actually do give them away. And Grant one. And they were kind enough to. Yeah. To. To just exchange it for a credit, which I think was pretty cool. What style was it again, Grant? [00:05:53] Speaker D: That makes sense. [00:05:54] Speaker B: Pardon? What store was it I went to? [00:05:57] Speaker C: It was just Ted's Australia. So I went into the one in High Point. The manager was a bit skeptical at the start because I didn't have, like, any proof of it besides the Instagram post. And then she had to call up, like, the marketing people to be like, is this legit? And they. Yeah, honored it, which is good. [00:06:17] Speaker D: And you're like, I'm Grant Fleming. [00:06:18] Speaker B: Photo you. [00:06:19] Speaker D: Surely you've heard. [00:06:20] Speaker A: Yeah, it's all over social media. But before that took place, Grant, what was your first inspiration for photography? [00:06:28] Speaker B: What. [00:06:28] Speaker A: What led you to pick up a camera? [00:06:31] Speaker C: Just traveling, lived overseas for quite a while. So I just like being outside. I take a lot of, like, landscape photography. I like getting up early, beating the crowds. I think that's the main part. Like, I was just getting up early. I'm like, these places are so cool. They're not like what you see on Instagram when there's hundreds and thousands of people here. I'm here, just me. So, yeah, I just started taking off. Like, I literally just had a GoPro. Started with that iPhone and then eventually brought a camera and just started learning how to use it when we're over in the UK and just caught the bug and stuck. Kept buying more and more gear, which happens when you're a photographer. [00:07:19] Speaker A: It does. And so you'd like to be outdoors. You like to shoot outdoors. What's your. What's your favorite genre, do you think, or what are the genres that you enjoy the most? [00:07:28] Speaker C: I like the high country. Spend a lot of time up in the high country. Even if not. If it's not the high country, it'll be like seascapes. [00:07:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I just. [00:07:38] Speaker B: You're a bit of a. Bit of a sucker for waterfalls too, aren't you? [00:07:42] Speaker C: Yeah, I like things that can move inside a shot and you can like show like the flow, so you can just like slow down your shutter speed and it can like show how the water's moving, basically. So it's like you got still stuff around it, but there's something in it that's moving. [00:08:03] Speaker B: Very cool. [00:08:04] Speaker A: And what do you think? What do you think would be the greatest vista, whether it be in the high country or seascape or on travels that you've come across and before you've even pulled your camera out, you've just stood in awe and thought, wow, I'm going to love shooting this. [00:08:20] Speaker C: It was probably before I was like when I just had my GoPro. We're doing the a road trip around the icefield parkways in Canada and just like every corner you turn around, it's just like another hundred thousand foot mountain in front of you and you're just like, oh man, this is crazy. Like everywhere you went was just crazy. And I'm shattered. I didn't have a good camera then because the amount of photos you could have got there could have spent weeks there. [00:08:49] Speaker A: Is this something you think you'll ever go Back to? [00:08:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:52] Speaker C: 100. [00:08:55] Speaker B: Nice. [00:08:56] Speaker A: Very cool. What about you, Jim? What's been the greatest? I know that you're not a landscape, you know, you're not a landscape shooter professionally because you do weddings and boudoir, but have you ever come across a landscape that's just awe inspiring? It's just stopped you in your tracks. [00:09:14] Speaker D: Not that I can like recall. [00:09:17] Speaker C: What about an Airbnb set up for a boudoir shoot? [00:09:20] Speaker A: What's the best Airbnb you've come across? [00:09:22] Speaker B: Just jaw dropping. Airbnb? [00:09:24] Speaker A: Yeah, like holiday. [00:09:26] Speaker D: Hopefully the. The one I'm going to tomorrow I'm going to check on out in Bendigo, so might have a new photo spot, but we'll see. [00:09:34] Speaker B: Nice. [00:09:35] Speaker A: And Justin, how about you? [00:09:38] Speaker B: Without a doubt, the raggedy and jagged ranges in New Zealand on the south island, they're. Where are they? West of a town called Methven and you can really only access by helicopter or if you're a crazy, crazy person that some people hike out there probably. But we flew over chopper for 40 minutes to get out to them and it was just endless, like series of peaks of like ice cap, jagged peaks. I imagine that's what Alaska looks like or something like that. And it was just. Yeah, peak after peak and then every now and then there'd be just glaciers or like, what do you call those? Are they fjords or. No, does New Zealand have fjords? What are those, like flat rivers with lots of rocks called. I should know this because I've. I was there. Can't remember New Zealand. Can you picture? Yeah. Do they? Yeah, maybe it is fjords. They're like really, really flat, wide rivers and lots of rocks and they just kind of snake through the valleys of green grass. And then it's just snow. [00:10:41] Speaker A: So good. Very cool. Anyone listening along at home or watching along, hit us up in the comments. What's been your top destination that's just stopped you in your tracks when you've gone to shoot landscape? Please let us know and we might just jump to some comments quickly. What do you reckon, boss? [00:10:58] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do it. We'll do a roundup of who's here. Do a roll call. Philip Johnson is here. He says good evening all. [00:11:04] Speaker A: Evening, Philip. [00:11:06] Speaker B: Ian Thompson. Good evening, gentlemen. Gentlemen. And Grant. Tony, get off my digital lawn. Says, I don't own a camera. It's good to have you here anyway, Tony. He also says you guys were late, so you've been relegated to the small tv. He's got this set up in his shed. He's got like a giant tv, but then he's got another small TV off to the side in case he wants to watch something while he's watching something. [00:11:32] Speaker A: What a life. [00:11:34] Speaker B: It's crazy. [00:11:36] Speaker D: Tony does own about four GoPros. [00:11:38] Speaker B: Yeah, he does. He does own cameras. That's true. Who else we got? Paul says. G'day, guys. Enjoying the Monday evening time slot. Thanks, Tim. Siamas. Evening, fellas. Tim, are you new in the comments? I don't know if we've seen you before. [00:11:56] Speaker A: I don't think I've seen it. [00:11:59] Speaker B: And of course Digi Frog is here, present. [00:12:02] Speaker A: Oh. [00:12:03] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Digi Frog. I'm so sorry things got crazy, but he sent me an email on Friday that we might even need to play on this show. I haven't. I haven't shared it with you guys yet. [00:12:14] Speaker D: Okay. [00:12:15] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry, Frog, I haven't replied yet. Yes, it was pretty crazy. [00:12:21] Speaker D: You've been busy. [00:12:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I've been busy. I've been busy. It was a busy weekend and a busy day today. And also next time, well, next time maybe this time we might play it on the show. This time I might be able to. I might be able to make this work. He sent us something very, very special. And speaking of comments, I was going to bring up some viewer comments from our YouTube channel because we've been getting a ton after the shows. [00:12:50] Speaker A: Oh, yeah? [00:12:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And I just wanted to Go over some of them because I thought it would be cool. [00:12:56] Speaker D: So any of them Grant post like posting random photos? No, that is photoshopped. [00:13:02] Speaker B: No, no. Let me bring this up. [00:13:11] Speaker A: Paul has answered my question. My call out. Snow covered Bryce Canyon and Grand Canyon in winter is epic. [00:13:17] Speaker B: Oh, snow covered Bryce Canyon. You're making me jealous in winter. That would be so cool. [00:13:25] Speaker A: All right, what have you got for us? [00:13:26] Speaker B: What have I got? Still getting tons of tons of comments on Richard Taddy's episode 46. Who is this? Andrea Boyle, 9435 says, Great show. Richard is a fantastic knife photographer and I am an avid follower. Always learning something new. Yelena says because she's currently at the hospital, a Lumber gyms calendar is where it's at. She wants to see a calendar of gyms. That was on our clip about Nev selling enough calendars to buy a GFX100. If you guys. If you guys want to hear how Nev managed to sell enough calendars to upgrade his Fujifilm kit, jump on that clip. It's a clip from our first podcast with Nev, which was last year sometime. [00:14:15] Speaker A: Yep. [00:14:18] Speaker B: Who else we got? I like this one from Roger Highland. 8283. I'm working my way through. [00:14:24] Speaker A: He's a Fuji shooter. [00:14:25] Speaker B: Oh, is he? [00:14:26] Speaker A: Friend of mine, yeah. [00:14:27] Speaker B: Well, no wonder. This is. This is a comment on Charlie Blevins's episode. So that. That checks out. Working my way through all these. Apart from any other benefits. You guys are keeping me sane at the moment. I find I can listen to every program, no matter the subject or the guest, and I learn and I feel karma. What a comment. [00:14:46] Speaker A: Wow. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Thank you so much. [00:14:49] Speaker A: Good on you, man. [00:14:50] Speaker B: A few comments from Greg Carrick. We got the Jason, but I prefer to call him Jay Shanny2066 because it's an. That's an OG comment. Yeah, he said the intro song rocks. That was from the. The down south photo show. [00:15:08] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:15:08] Speaker B: Random show which had the first week new intro song. [00:15:13] Speaker A: It did. [00:15:14] Speaker B: It did. And that. That song does rock. He also said that MD mount that was getting thrown around in the live chat was actually a series of lenses for the Minolta Sr Mount. And I was like, I don't even. [00:15:27] Speaker D: I don't even know. [00:15:28] Speaker B: You know too many things. And he also had a lot to say about the OM3, as did a few people, including Rick Nelson. There's a lot of, like, there's a lot of chatter about the om3 versus the om5 versus the om1 mark and where the price lost it and yeah, that was fun. So it's all. [00:15:45] Speaker A: It's like Cam suggested last week. It's all starting to unravel now that the early adopters got their review units reviewed. We've all seen those glowing reviews. People that are actually getting to use the camera now are talking more online and there's a lot more. It's not as positive, it's not negative, but there's a lot of concerns about. [00:16:07] Speaker B: I know, I just. So it really comes back to me and I know the boys, the down south boys are super passionate and they're OM system shooters so they know this stuff inside and out. But I just bring it back to it. It's. It's like the zf, the Nikon zf. It was it. They brought that out. It was about the same price as the. What was it, Jim? The D610, whatever. The ZF. The ZF was no similar price anyway. The 750 or whatever. [00:16:36] Speaker D: Like they had the same sensor, didn't. [00:16:39] Speaker B: It had the same sensor but it was missing some stuff. But it had the retro body and it had a great sensor in it. And it's like there's always going. You're not going to get a peak performance camera the same as a flagship. Well, it's not going to work. [00:16:54] Speaker D: It's not going to work the same. Like you got the dial. Like it's not going to be a fast pro body. Like you don't need it to be. [00:17:00] Speaker B: Yeah, but also I do, but I get all of their points in saying that. It's like, you know, as long as people aren't getting tricked into thinking that this thing is the upgrade they need, as opposed to looking at it for what it is, which is a great retro body camera that I looked at. I looked at it from the other perspective and thought, wow, they really didn't have to get rid of much from their flagship. Like it's almost the flagship and it's. And it's this cool sort of. It looks cool. Looks cool. It's a way smaller. So anyway, there's a lot of perspectives there. I was. It was a fun chat, lots of comments. [00:17:35] Speaker A: Yeah, very cool. I kind of liking it. So the, you know, the Fujifilm has their flagships. [00:17:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:42] Speaker A: And then they've got their X100 which, you know, the Fuji XT5, the XT50, the XH2, they all kind of have the same. Well, Maybe not the XH2, but they all have the same sensor and processor, just a different style of camera. And it's appealing to a market that likes rangefinder style. [00:18:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:00] Speaker A: And I think this is kind of a similar proposition, but yeah, it's interesting. [00:18:09] Speaker B: Well, with that shall we move on to the photo news? [00:18:15] Speaker D: Gotta press the sound button though. Don't forget. [00:18:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I've got sound. [00:18:20] Speaker B: Nice. What do you. Would you want to start with? [00:18:25] Speaker D: Anything? [00:18:25] Speaker B: Greg, what do you got? [00:18:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll start. I've got a few bits and pieces. [00:18:27] Speaker B: You got it all lined up? [00:18:29] Speaker A: Well, I try to. Let's have a look here. The good folks at Sigma, Sigma, they've been in the game a fair while now. They launched a bunch of new products overnight. You can see them all here. We'll get. We'll save the best for last. First one is 16 to 300 contemporary. [00:18:49] Speaker B: This is pretty cool. [00:18:51] Speaker A: 3.5 to 6.7 it is. And it's for Canon RF mount. [00:18:57] Speaker B: RFS. So crop sensor. Crop sensor, yeah, yeah, it's a crop sensor lens and again it's sort of. Canon's only doing the crop sensor third party stuff at the moment. But it's cool that it's a step forward anyway. [00:19:08] Speaker A: It is a big step forward. [00:19:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:09] Speaker A: You know it's a pretty versatile focal range when you think about it. So it's for L mount, Sony E. That's coming out in April. Then Fuji Canon coming out in May. So they're making a Fuji version as well. [00:19:21] Speaker B: A dual Fuji Canon launch in May. Yeah, we've teamed up there Greg. I think they did that for us. Would they be Fujion or Kanuji? [00:19:32] Speaker A: Kanuji. [00:19:35] Speaker B: So that's an equivalent. I really want to talk about these lens for one second. That is an equivalent 24 to 450 lens. [00:19:42] Speaker D: Big. [00:19:43] Speaker B: It's. [00:19:43] Speaker A: It is big. [00:19:44] Speaker B: It's. And it weighs. It weighs under 500 grams. So it weighs. It weighs less than half your 50 mil gym. And it's. It's equivalent to a 24 to 450 obviously very high F stop. And when I don't think we've seen is. Is there anything out about the optics yet? I don't think. I think it's just a Release. [00:20:05] Speaker D: But the 51.2. [00:20:09] Speaker B: No, it's not going to look like you. No. [00:20:12] Speaker A: A little bit of stuff down here. Some specs. [00:20:14] Speaker B: So. [00:20:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:15] Speaker B: But yeah. [00:20:16] Speaker A: 615 grams. [00:20:18] Speaker B: Oh, sorry. [00:20:20] Speaker D: It's good. [00:20:20] Speaker B: It's a bit over. A bit over 500 grams. Sorry, I thought it was just under. [00:20:24] Speaker A: It's still. It's 73 by 121 so it's still pretty small. I mean, it's got. It's got to pair up with small jack, smaller APS C bodies, especially like the Fujifilm bodies that you don't. [00:20:36] Speaker B: Yeah, you can't hang a massive thing. [00:20:39] Speaker A: I mean, you can, but it. I mean, I shot the Fuji XF500F 4.5, the 4.5 or 5.6. Anyway, the big five new 500 zoom on the XM5. That was a lot of fun. [00:20:52] Speaker B: That'd be bizarre because that lens. That lens is obviously designed more for the XH cameras. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:58] Speaker B: In terms of handling, but it was fun. [00:21:01] Speaker A: That was the first announcement that I came across. The second one is this sports lens, 300 to 600 mil f4. That's pretty good f4. So what's that? Just. That's. I think that's. That's full frame. [00:21:17] Speaker B: That would be. [00:21:19] Speaker A: Yep. [00:21:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Which is. Which is full frame? It's L mount and email mount, I'm pretty sure. I think it is. [00:21:26] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:21:26] Speaker A: I saw somewhere. Yeah. Sony E. That's a bit of a bigger lens. That's almost four kilos. [00:21:33] Speaker D: Wow. [00:21:34] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a beastly sports lens. [00:21:36] Speaker A: That's it. That's half a meter long. [00:21:38] Speaker D: Heavy though, is it? Four, like four. [00:21:42] Speaker A: Four kilos is a bit. [00:21:43] Speaker D: What was a 400? [00:21:45] Speaker B: 2.8, Justin, what did it weigh? I can't even remember. It was heavy. [00:21:50] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:21:51] Speaker B: Probably not more than 4 kilos, though. [00:21:54] Speaker A: That just feels heavy to me. Anyway, it's a massive length. I mean, look at it. It's huge. And then the other thing that happened is that, well, they launched, they relaunched a bunch of Sigma lenses. They renewed nine lenses and dropped them all overnight. So these are the I series lenses. [00:22:14] Speaker B: Yeah, but you know. [00:22:16] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll get to that. I'm building. [00:22:18] Speaker B: Okay, okay, okay, okay. You're building all right. Up. [00:22:20] Speaker A: I am building. So Sigma have renewed nine lenses. These are all primes. These are all I series primes. They're for L mount, but they're also for Sony E mount. These already exist in the wild in black, in like a, you know, basically a matte black. But Sigma are releasing them in silver and a new black color to match with something that's coming up. But basically you can see. Is there a list? Yeah, here. So 17, 20, 24, second 24, 35, 45, 50, 65 at a 90 mil. So if you're a Sigma, if you. If you Sony or Elmo and you love Sigma glass, well, there's your prime kit pretty much covered. [00:23:01] Speaker B: And. And I assume I haven't actually. I Don't know much about this line, but they look pretty compact. Pretty compact and lightweight. [00:23:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I haven't gone into too many details just yet because I'm still writing up the news article. But the reason why they're bringing out a new version of the Black so the. The existing lenses are still there is because they've announced a brand new Sigma BF full frame Apple product. It looks like an Apple product. [00:23:29] Speaker B: It's so cool. [00:23:31] Speaker A: Well, it looks like a blend between a Mac. I don't know that I can. On this screen. It looks like a cross between a Canon nexus and a MacBook Pro. [00:23:42] Speaker B: It's so cool. Yeah. Have you. Jim and Grant, actually just before I ask you this question. This is funny. Tony says, grant, can you let someone else talk? [00:23:52] Speaker D: I don't even know what you guys are talking about. [00:23:55] Speaker B: Have either of you seen this thing at all? No, it only got released today. [00:24:00] Speaker D: It looks. [00:24:01] Speaker B: It looks. Well, I need to find a bigger picture. [00:24:04] Speaker D: Have you ordered. [00:24:05] Speaker A: Here we go. Oh, hang on, let me just swap screen. [00:24:07] Speaker D: Have you ordered one yet? [00:24:10] Speaker B: No, I won't order one. But the. I just love the design. [00:24:15] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:24:15] Speaker B: They're having a crack at a new design and it's really cool. It's a very uni. A unibody. So it's machined out of one piece of aluminum. The whole body. [00:24:26] Speaker A: Yep. That's why I say it's like an Apple product. [00:24:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:24:30] Speaker A: They put a block in and they machine it out every time. Like it's phenomenal. Very minimal interface. [00:24:36] Speaker B: That the thing above the, like above the thumb dial or whatever that, like that strokes. That's a digital screen? No, no, unfortunately it's not like a touchpad or whatever, but it's. It shows you like your ISO or whatever in like a cool little clean interface. [00:24:52] Speaker A: Lens cap on. [00:24:53] Speaker D: So the new lenses are the same black as this? [00:24:56] Speaker B: Yes. And silver? [00:24:58] Speaker A: Well, yeah, there's two. So there's the black one, as you can see here with this new black finish, and then there's a silver version. But look at the top plate. The top plate has a single hat. That's it. Just the shutter button. Nothing else. Phenomenally. No hot shoe? [00:25:17] Speaker B: No. No hot shoe, but no. No viewfinder. No hot shoe. I'm gonna put. I'm gonna. Sigma doesn't really have the. The brand cache to pull this off, but I'm like, is this gonna be the next influencer camera? Like, is this the next X100? [00:25:34] Speaker A: I don't know. It's pretty cool. [00:25:36] Speaker B: That's what I mean. If you're going to be in a photo with something, you know, with a camera. This is, this. That's a very cool camera to be holding. [00:25:45] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:25:46] Speaker A: So 2000 US you can do the conversion. No date yet? I haven't heard a date yet but. So it's available in the black and the silver which is why we just saw that Sigma re releasing those renewed nine relatively fast primes. [00:26:06] Speaker B: You know the biggest downside. Biggest downside, Greg, what's that? It's only got one strap lug and it's not even a full size strap lug. So it can't, it can't fit a large camera strap. Yeah, I can make something that fits that. [00:26:20] Speaker D: A wrist strap though. [00:26:21] Speaker B: Yeah. But a single strap lug like means you can't run a shoulder strap or anything without it just pointing down. I don't know. [00:26:29] Speaker D: Yeah, you'd have to do like a sling style. [00:26:32] Speaker A: We don't have a picture of the base plate here, so I wonder if it would mount. Well, if you can then screw in one of those lugs that let you attach a strap. [00:26:39] Speaker B: You could but you shouldn't then it's. [00:26:41] Speaker D: Not going to be, going to be on an angle. [00:26:43] Speaker A: But this is obviously a very unconventional product. [00:26:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I love that they've done it. I love that they've done it. It's got solid state, like what is it, 230 gig internal memory. So you just. No SD slots. It's just like, hey, don't even worry about that. Like this is fast. It just works. And 230 gigs is plenty for, I mean. Yeah, plenty for long deep, isn't it? [00:27:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it's got haptic feedback. Haptic feedback in the buttons. [00:27:10] Speaker B: Yeah, for the buttons. So you can actually feel when you click. [00:27:14] Speaker A: 30 is pretty good. [00:27:15] Speaker B: Rick Nelson says. Such a cool design. I could see it as a daily carry with a Sigma 45 mil 2.8. Yeah, I agree. Is that Sigma 45? Is that one of the I series where it'll have the matching colors? Must be. Yeah. Very, very cool camera. [00:27:33] Speaker A: Why isn't it working? Sigma AF45. [00:27:41] Speaker B: There's another one. [00:27:44] Speaker A: It's basically this, I'm pretty sure. Or maybe it's just the dg. Anyway, I'm pretty sure it's this one. [00:27:53] Speaker D: Cool. [00:27:54] Speaker A: This is the original version. [00:27:57] Speaker B: Brands releasing cameras like that can only help the industry move forward and progress with different styles of products. If everyone just always does the same thing. Yeah, but that being said, I won't buy one. But I'm glad they made it. [00:28:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:17] Speaker D: Why not? Maybe you could change the locker for. [00:28:20] Speaker B: It because it'll probably be three and a half grand Australia. And I've got another. I've got other stuff on my list. And you'll need lenses, which we'll talk about later. That's the gear talk section is. I've got a few things basket. We'll talk about that later. [00:28:33] Speaker A: The next bit of news that dropped over, actually dropped over the weekend, but I was away so I couldn't report on it. Canon announces a brand new camera. Yeah, PowerShot B1 vlogging camera. Pretty much, yeah. Look, it's pretty much like the Sony ZVE. [00:28:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:52] Speaker A: What is it? E10 or E1? [00:28:55] Speaker B: The one I think compares, but I. [00:28:58] Speaker A: Think the 10 is like the cheaper APS C version. The E1. [00:29:01] Speaker B: Yes. [00:29:02] Speaker A: Because full frame. I might be wrong, but yeah, fix zoom 8.2. Well, 16 to 50 full frame zoom, good range. [00:29:15] Speaker D: You want it to be a bit. A bit wider though, wouldn't you, for a vlogging camera? [00:29:19] Speaker B: 16 is perfect. [00:29:20] Speaker D: But isn't it 16 on a crop sensor or is it. [00:29:23] Speaker B: No, no, that's the full frame equivalent. [00:29:25] Speaker A: Sorry, mate. 16 to 50, full frame equivalent. [00:29:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that's a perfect. A perfect vlogging slash. A little bit of, you know, extra video content and photos. I think that's a great all rounder. And it's a decent sized sensor too. What, the sensor, Greg. How did they explain it? It's like a micro 4/3 but with the top and bottom chopped off. So it's the same width as a micro four thirds, is that right? [00:29:51] Speaker A: I don't know, I didn't look into it that much. But it's a 22 megapixel, 1.4-inch CMOS sensor. So it's a unique sensor size. [00:30:00] Speaker B: I read it. I'm positive I read somewhere because micro four thirds, correct me if I'm wrong, but they're a four, three image, aren't they? Rather than a three, two. They're more square. [00:30:14] Speaker A: Well, they can be, yeah. But you can set it to the other ratios. Yeah, yeah. [00:30:19] Speaker B: So I think this is the same width as a micro 4/3 physically, but it doesn't have that extra top and bottom bit. Yeah, it's got the normal 3, 2 aspect ratio or whatever. So. Yeah, yeah, so it should be that. Which means it should be capable of a decent image because it's a fairly large sensor. Yeah, yeah. What do you think, Grant? [00:30:42] Speaker A: Yeah, Grant, go for it. [00:30:44] Speaker C: If you wanna. If you want to do. [00:30:46] Speaker D: You can do some vlogging soon. [00:30:48] Speaker B: Me when's your vlog coming out? [00:30:51] Speaker C: It's in the works. I've got a trip coming up in April, so. [00:30:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:57] Speaker D: Family trip. [00:30:59] Speaker C: Yeah, family trip, but it's based around every stop. I have places I want to take photos, so. [00:31:05] Speaker B: Nice. [00:31:06] Speaker C: I chose the stops, so. [00:31:08] Speaker D: So you. You've had a. You've booked a family holiday based on photography? [00:31:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:31:16] Speaker D: Nice. [00:31:17] Speaker C: The places we're going are pretty cool though, so. [00:31:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Do you reckon you'll be able to give us like a 5 to 10 minute weekly update on the Monday podcast just from wherever you happen to be? [00:31:29] Speaker C: Hey, I've done it from Japan before, so along the coast. I don't think it'd be too hard. [00:31:34] Speaker B: Have you frozen for everyone else. [00:31:38] Speaker D: Grant's. [00:31:39] Speaker B: Hey, he's gone. [00:31:40] Speaker D: Grant's. He's. He's starting a new side gig where he. He's doing ventriloquism. [00:31:47] Speaker A: Well, this is the perfect platform for it. [00:31:50] Speaker B: While he's gone missing Tim. And Tim said. He is. He is new. And he said, nice pronunciation on the surname. I thought you'd butcher it. And I think I said siamis. I'm pretty sure. But he says he's not too sure on this design. This is talking about the Sigma. I think it looks very cool, but might be one of those you need in your hands to be sure it'll actually be practical for everyday use. Yeah, I agree. [00:32:13] Speaker A: Was that a Sigma that released one a few years ago that had like weird angle. It was like a unibody like that. [00:32:19] Speaker B: The Foveon. [00:32:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:22] Speaker B: Bit of a. Bit of a. Yeah, like an angle off to the side, something like that. [00:32:27] Speaker A: Very 80s, kind of inspired. [00:32:29] Speaker B: They've. They've done a few weird things with their cameras and none of them have ever. But that. That Foveon sensor everyone loved. [00:32:35] Speaker A: Yeah, they did. Yeah. We talked about it a couple weeks ago. It's interesting. It's a brave move. I reckon you. You know, market shares. There's not. There's not much margin to take over in full frame. [00:32:50] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:32:50] Speaker A: So, yes. Make it up. Get rid of all the bells and whistles. [00:32:54] Speaker B: Yeah. If you just make a slightly worse Canon Nikon Sony full frame camera. Like, good luck. [00:33:02] Speaker D: You're not gonna. [00:33:03] Speaker A: It's still gonna take. No. And it's gonna take great photos. Let's face it. Like, it's not gonna be. It's not gonna be dog, is it? It's gonna take good photos. [00:33:10] Speaker B: Sensor will be nice. [00:33:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:13] Speaker A: Rick Nelson says, such a cool design. I could see it as a daily carry with the Sigma. 4528. [00:33:18] Speaker B: We did. We read that one out. [00:33:20] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:33:21] Speaker A: Oh, sorry. I was looking up news. Would you go silver or black? That's what I want to know. [00:33:26] Speaker B: Conversation. Come on. That's actually, that's a good question. Silver or black? I should, I should have, I should have made a straight. [00:33:34] Speaker A: I would go black, but if you wanted. [00:33:38] Speaker D: If it's so cool though that you. [00:33:40] Speaker B: Have to get the silver one. If you, if you want that to be a standout. It's like if you. [00:33:46] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:33:46] Speaker B: You know. [00:33:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:49] Speaker D: The reason you're buying that kind of camera is for its looks. And I feel like the black. It probably just looks like, like the Canon V1 that you just bought up, but. [00:33:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:58] Speaker A: Wow. [00:33:58] Speaker D: They're gonna blend in. No, they're gonna blend in similarly. [00:34:01] Speaker A: They will, they will. But if you, if you're looking for a no fuss camera though, and you're happy to pay top dollar to get a full frame with a decent lineup. [00:34:08] Speaker B: Of primes, you buy it like a Q3. [00:34:11] Speaker A: No, you wouldn't. Why would you do that? No one. [00:34:13] Speaker C: It was pretty bougie though, so he wants like everyone to look at him. [00:34:17] Speaker A: Oh, here it comes. Grant speaks up. Yeah, tell us more. [00:34:24] Speaker D: I'll just top off from the black hole that you're in, Grant. [00:34:26] Speaker A: Yeah. It's about to disappear. Couple of other news bits, Mikey. You've got a new 55 mil that came out overnight. Viltrox have got a bunch of lenses that are about to drop. They're still in the rumor pit, but I have it on good authority that they're going to drop either tomorrow or in a couple of days. There's a rumor about two new Sony lenses that are about to drop, so I'm just sitting on those, waiting to see if they. One's a 400 to 800 full frame f 6.3 to f 8G master lens. [00:34:57] Speaker B: Interesting. I wonder if that's like Canon. What has Canon got? But this is not that. No, they got these like. They got a 400 to 800, don't they? Let me see. [00:35:10] Speaker A: Someone's got a 400 to 800. [00:35:13] Speaker B: Canon's got a 400 to 800, but it's a 6.3 to 9. Well, it's close and it's quite lightweight. [00:35:20] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I don't know any specs on this one yet. Most of these are still rumors, but most of them I've seen images of, so who knows? The only other couple of things, Leica dropped a renewed version of their Summilux M50 Mil F 1.4. They've reviewed it and renewed it. So it's the classic lens from what was it like 1959. [00:35:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:43] Speaker A: And they've basically rebuilt it from the grand up. It looks the same but it's all modern current gen, new optical profile in it and it's just a classy looking piece of glass, to be honest. [00:35:56] Speaker B: Yeah, that none of us can afford. [00:35:58] Speaker A: None of us can afford. The only other two lenses that are on the radar and Zeiss has actually hinted at this, that something's coming. But the hint is that it's going to be a 50mil F14 for Sony E at this stage, as far as I know. And an 85 mil one, four both by Zeiss. [00:36:17] Speaker B: I saw a rumor that Zeiss might be coming to Canon rf. [00:36:22] Speaker A: Well, that might be. It might be the Zeiss Otis. They might be making them, which they've done before. Is that why I don't know any details on these lenses yet. I just know the rumored names and you know, focal lengths and. But as I themselves have said, there's something coming. [00:36:40] Speaker B: Yeah, here we go. On one Canon rumors community. Yeah. So it'll be manual focus. Zeiss Otis. But coming potentially the official announcement coming February 25th. So they will probably have a licensing agreement with Canon to use the communication protocols for like aperture and stuff like that. [00:37:04] Speaker A: XF data, that sort of thing. [00:37:05] Speaker D: Yeah, but not focus. [00:37:07] Speaker B: No, because Ice Otis lenses don't autofocus, do they? Yeah, they're all manual focus. [00:37:13] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:37:13] Speaker D: Canon is still holding, so they're. So they're holding on to the, the focal. [00:37:17] Speaker B: They haven't, they haven't allowed anyone to make a full frame autofocus lens. The only one was Samyang and maybe another one tried for a little bit but they got shut down. [00:37:27] Speaker C: Shut down. [00:37:28] Speaker B: They went around. They didn't. They didn't actually get fully licensed through Canon. [00:37:32] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. [00:37:34] Speaker A: Now the reason why there has been such a flurry of news kind of pretty much overnight and a little bit over the weekend. We're going to see that for the rest of this week and leading into the weekend ahead because CP Plus 2025, which is the international Camera and Photo Imaging show, is being held in Yokohama next weekend in Japan. I wish I was there for it. Justin. You've let the team down. [00:37:55] Speaker B: Next year we're going. [00:37:57] Speaker D: You didn't get the call, Greg? [00:37:59] Speaker A: No, I missed the flight. [00:37:59] Speaker D: Oh, just. Justin, I. Flying out next week. [00:38:01] Speaker A: Yeah, whatever. [00:38:05] Speaker B: On next week's podcast with Beanies on. [00:38:11] Speaker A: The South Yara office But, yeah, so there's a lot of, you know, it's huge trade show. I've got a friend who's over there at the moment, he works with a couple of brands here in Australia, so he's managed to go over and call it a family holiday. Bit like your story, Grant. Yeah, it's taking the kids to a trade show, but they're toddlers, so that's gonna not go well. But, yeah, so there's gonna be a lot more industry news. Um, a lot of brands have hinted at announcements throughout this week, so stay tuned. And, yeah, we'll try and bring you the news again next week. We'll give you a bit of a roundup of what's been happening, but there's a lot of product dropping, which is great for the industry, it's great for us. It delivers choice to photographers, but it also choice drives competition of price, which keeps the prices friendly for most, which is what I love about it. So, yeah, that's the news. Anyone else got any news? [00:39:08] Speaker B: That's all the industry stuff that I had. [00:39:10] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:39:12] Speaker B: No, that were the main things that I'd seen pop up that were exciting me. [00:39:16] Speaker D: I'm gonna wait till we get to the things great on the side. [00:39:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, sorry. [00:39:22] Speaker B: Oh, we're gonna move on to image review. [00:39:24] Speaker A: Let's move on. [00:39:25] Speaker D: I mean, I've got news, but it's. It's gear talk news, so. [00:39:28] Speaker B: Oh, right. [00:39:31] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. No, we can't. Yeah, no, you got to stick to the dossier. [00:39:34] Speaker B: Well, before. Before we move on, we'll just cap this off. By Rick Nelson says for Street, I would want the black. He's talking about the Sigma bodies. Yes, thank you, Rick. But as a daily carry, to show off the silver would bring the conversations. [00:39:46] Speaker D: Yeah, agreed. [00:39:47] Speaker A: Sounds like you need both. [00:39:49] Speaker D: Well, he's a man. He works in the camera store, remember? [00:39:51] Speaker B: But then you'd need a set of the lenses in each color also. [00:39:55] Speaker A: I don't see what the problem is. You'd go with street lens and then you'd have. You'd have like, the black one was straight with maybe like a, you know, even a 24 mil. I reckon it'd be good. That's my preferred focal length. 23, 24. And then something else for the silver. [00:40:10] Speaker B: It's not a crop sensor, though, Greg. [00:40:12] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it's 24. [00:40:14] Speaker B: It'd be 35. [00:40:15] Speaker A: Yeah. A lot wider. 17. [00:40:20] Speaker B: What? The other way. [00:40:22] Speaker A: Oh, no, it does go the other way. [00:40:23] Speaker B: Sorry, the other way. 35. [00:40:24] Speaker A: Yep. [00:40:24] Speaker B: You're a 35 man. [00:40:26] Speaker A: I am. [00:40:27] Speaker B: I think. But a cropper. Never mind. On a Fuji X series at 23, 24 is about a 35 full frame equivalent. [00:40:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:38] Speaker D: Okay. [00:40:38] Speaker B: Yeah, we got there. Bruce Moore says, good evening and. [00:40:43] Speaker A: Hey, Bruce. [00:40:45] Speaker B: Paul says, friendly is not how I describe the prices. [00:40:48] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a fair call, Paul, but imagine if there wasn't competition. It'd be so much worse. [00:40:55] Speaker B: Fair enough. If we do move on to the next official segment, which is image reviews. Since I was a little busy, I don't have any of that stuff lined. [00:41:07] Speaker D: Up, so I emailed you a Dropbox link. [00:41:10] Speaker B: I know, but I'd have to download it and do all that stuff. But you might be able to just share your lightroom or whatever. Do you have any. What shoot is it? Do you have any of the car photos? That was a fun shoot. [00:41:22] Speaker D: That was a fun shoot. Not edited, unfortunately. I forgot that was what I was supposed to bring. I. I had a busy day. I was in Melbourne most of the day and I had to get back and get a sneak peek ready. [00:41:34] Speaker B: I see. Anyway, moving on to image review. [00:41:43] Speaker D: I. [00:41:43] Speaker B: Got to find a new sound effect. [00:41:45] Speaker D: I like it. [00:41:47] Speaker A: It's cheesy. [00:41:48] Speaker B: It's cheesy. Just like us. So I don't have any photo. Oh, I probably do not really. I don't have many photos that we can review, but do your job for you. Try and. Try and bring yours up if you can g. More. Grant, have you got anything lately that we can look at or. Not lately? [00:42:04] Speaker C: No, not lately lately. But we're just talking before the show. [00:42:08] Speaker B: Just. [00:42:08] Speaker C: You can bring up my Instagram show. Some most recent stuff, but come April, it will be back in business. [00:42:18] Speaker D: The Instagram, definitely not. [00:42:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Didn't you. You've shot some film, though, but it's not back yet. [00:42:26] Speaker D: Yeah, so the first role I put. [00:42:28] Speaker C: In, it didn't work at all. It was just. But I dropped off another one last week, so I should have that back hopefully this week or next week so I can bring them on once they're developed. [00:42:42] Speaker B: Nice. [00:42:44] Speaker C: If they work. [00:42:47] Speaker D: All right. I might be. Oh, wait. I can just see a screen. Okay. I'm learning how to do this on the fly. [00:42:56] Speaker B: Look, you're getting there. You're getting there. Any of you out there listening, send us some images so we can look at. I want to see some cool stuff that you guys make. [00:43:06] Speaker A: Where should they send them, Justin? [00:43:09] Speaker B: Wherever. Email them to me. Email them to me, Justin. Luckystraps.com. [00:43:15] Speaker A: That'S what I was going for. [00:43:18] Speaker B: Another wedding. So when was another wedding? When Was Saturday. Shop Saturday. [00:43:22] Speaker D: Yep. Saturday. [00:43:24] Speaker A: Sorry, Cathedral. No, I was gonna say that's the cathedral. [00:43:27] Speaker D: Yeah, it is. [00:43:29] Speaker A: Huge. [00:43:30] Speaker D: Biggest church. [00:43:31] Speaker B: And so this. This was on Saturday. And you made the sneak peek for him today? [00:43:36] Speaker D: Yep, yep. I just sent it through about an hour before the podcast, so. [00:43:41] Speaker B: Nice. [00:43:42] Speaker D: Because I couldn't show up. [00:43:43] Speaker C: Send the link to the YouTube and it's like, if you. Hang on, you'll see it. [00:43:46] Speaker A: Yeah. You'll see it when everyone else sees it. [00:43:48] Speaker C: We need the viewers. [00:43:49] Speaker B: Beautiful shot. What was that shot? With what lens? [00:43:52] Speaker D: Oh, okay. I can tell you because I'm in. [00:43:54] Speaker B: Think it's the 105. [00:43:55] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, that's the 135. I switched up because it's such a long. Yeah, sorry. It's the. The 35 to 150 Tamron. [00:44:03] Speaker B: The 35 to 150 Tamron. So at 135, even in the church, you were happy to take the. The penalty of a zoom just for the flexibility. [00:44:13] Speaker D: Just for when they're walking in. [00:44:15] Speaker B: Yeah, Actually, no. [00:44:16] Speaker D: I shot the whole ceremony like this. So I shot the 20 and the 135, which is not what I'd normally shoot, but 28, 50 and 105. [00:44:24] Speaker B: But you keep saying 135. But you mean the 35 to 150. So just for those listening. Yeah. So the 35 super glued it at 135. [00:44:32] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:44:33] Speaker B: So the 35 to 150 Tamron, which is an F2 to F 2.8 zoom. Very handy Nikon system. Yeah, it's. That's a very cool lens that they made. [00:44:43] Speaker A: Look at that shot. That's amazing. Jim, have you been in so. No, I photographed the outside. I've never been in. I was too scared I'd be struck by lightning or something. [00:44:52] Speaker D: So you're technically not allowed up here. And not this wedding, but the last one I had there, there was a different person in charge, and I asked if I could go up there, and he said, absolutely not. [00:45:04] Speaker B: So did you fly a drone in there? [00:45:06] Speaker D: No, this wasn't this wedding. This was another wedding. And then this wedding, I asked a different person who was in charge, and he said, if you don't ask, you can't. I. If you don't ask, you can. And I said, okay. I didn't ask. And I just did it anyway because. [00:45:19] Speaker A: Nice. [00:45:20] Speaker D: It was worth it for this shot. [00:45:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:22] Speaker A: It's God's work you're doing. [00:45:23] Speaker D: So I think much trickier when there's only one person there, though, because it Is a long walk. [00:45:28] Speaker B: Some of these. This. These would look great in black and white as well. [00:45:33] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:45:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:35] Speaker A: So they're awesome. [00:45:38] Speaker B: Very nice. [00:45:39] Speaker A: Such an impressive building because it sits on that hill. It just towers over you like it's falling on you. [00:45:44] Speaker D: Yeah. The sun's generally in a bad position, though. Everyone wants to do photos on the steps and the steps is always in full sun, so. [00:45:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:53] Speaker D: But yeah, this is Back to the 1. 105, the 50 and the 28. [00:45:59] Speaker B: Right. So basically, once you're out of this, through the ceremony, you're swapping from the zoom back to the primes again. [00:46:04] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. [00:46:05] Speaker A: Why it's still on two bodies? [00:46:07] Speaker D: I just prefer to shoot at, like, lower apertures and I really like how sharp this 50 is. [00:46:16] Speaker B: Like, it's crispy. [00:46:19] Speaker D: This was 2.5. And there. It's not going to load, is it? It is, yeah. They're pretty sharp. So. [00:46:27] Speaker A: Yep. [00:46:28] Speaker D: And like edge to edge as well. Whereas, like some of the other. [00:46:34] Speaker B: Tim also shoots with the Z8 and he says he's got 24 to 72.8. And. So what's this? The 70 to 180 Tamron rebrand Nikon. [00:46:47] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:46:48] Speaker B: I don't know what that means, but the. So, yeah, 70 to 180. And I'm thinking about getting the Tamron 35 to 150 to replace both lenses. [00:46:56] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:46:57] Speaker B: Worth it? [00:46:59] Speaker D: It's hard to know. It probably depends how. Like, you have. [00:47:02] Speaker B: Do you have another lens specifically for event photography, then? I reckon. [00:47:06] Speaker D: I reckon if you had one lens. One, then yeah, that's all you'd have. [00:47:10] Speaker B: And then maybe a second body available with a wide, if possible, with a flash on it. [00:47:16] Speaker D: Like, I shoot with two bodies, so that's why it's not that versatile for me, because I've normally got to run something wider as well. And it's sort of. It's a great lens for. If you've only got one, but I generally have two or three. [00:47:30] Speaker B: The tricky thing for event photography is sometimes you do need to get. Just like you're. If you're in close and you need to get wider. There is a pretty big difference between 24 and 35 as your widest focal length. So, yeah, you would probably still need a wider lens than it, but the benefit would be you could have an even wider lens. So I think the 35 to 150 paired with, you know, something like a 15 or 16 to 35. [00:47:54] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:47:55] Speaker B: Would be a killer combo. That would cover more. More range, mainly, other than the long end. And you've got that F2 at 35mil, which would be awesome inside to get. To be able to get an extra stop. I think it's. Yeah, yeah, no brainer. That's a good. [00:48:10] Speaker D: It's a good lens. Just. Just don't pay full price. Find it on sale if you can get a deal. Yeah. [00:48:20] Speaker B: Very nice. [00:48:21] Speaker D: Cool. There's a. There was a giant bus park. So in this paddock is like the car park and there was a giant bus parked in possibly the worst spot. So that's why this shot is super low. [00:48:33] Speaker B: Is the bus behind them somewhere? [00:48:36] Speaker D: Yeah, I've. It's here. [00:48:38] Speaker C: Yeah, you can see it. [00:48:39] Speaker D: Oh, yeah. [00:48:42] Speaker B: Good job. [00:48:43] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:48:44] Speaker B: But otherwise, I mean, if it was. If, if it was me, I would have got up a bit higher and lit the bus with a flash just to really add a new element to the background, you know? [00:48:53] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:48:54] Speaker B: Get the branding to pop. [00:48:58] Speaker D: And just another standard dance floor photo. [00:49:02] Speaker B: Standard dance floor photo. Lovely stand for us. Yes. Standard for us. Tricky to execute, though. [00:49:10] Speaker D: Yeah. So just one front light to camera left and then one back lot. [00:49:15] Speaker B: What lens? What lens? [00:49:18] Speaker D: That's a 2020 at 2.8. [00:49:21] Speaker B: Yep. [00:49:23] Speaker D: And with a gelled flash on the back. [00:49:25] Speaker C: Justin. [00:49:26] Speaker B: Oh, look at you go. A little color temperature. Orange on the back a little bit. [00:49:31] Speaker D: Yeah, you can see it just popping through there. [00:49:34] Speaker A: Well done. [00:49:36] Speaker D: Cool. [00:49:37] Speaker B: Very cool. [00:49:39] Speaker D: What do you got? Give me. Actually, I left one photo in, Justin, because I. I knew you would. I knew you'd have a go at me about it. [00:49:46] Speaker B: Which one? [00:49:47] Speaker D: You didn't. [00:49:47] Speaker B: This one. I might have been reading comments when you brought it up. [00:49:50] Speaker C: Probably. [00:49:52] Speaker B: Right. Well, I don't. [00:49:55] Speaker D: There's only one thing. [00:49:57] Speaker B: I mean, the hedge is cutting his head off. But also, I don't love a little bit of. I guess. Doesn't matter. A little bit of a bend in her arm. And I probably wouldn't have tried. I would have tried not to include the brown grass at the front. I know you can't do anything about the back, but I probably would have tried to. I guess I probably could fix that slightly lower so that the hedge is going through just under their shoulders. But yeah, I mean, it's a. It's a formal shot. It's like. Yeah, it is what it is. [00:50:24] Speaker D: We were. It was hot and we were. We were pushing. [00:50:28] Speaker B: Yeah. You gotta. The player's comfort is far more important than where the line of the hedges is, I reckon at that point in the day. [00:50:35] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:50:35] Speaker B: You don't wanna. You don't want a grumpy groom. [00:50:37] Speaker D: No. [00:50:38] Speaker B: Or a Sweaty broad. [00:50:40] Speaker D: Cool. Done. [00:50:42] Speaker A: Cool. Well done. Very nice. [00:50:44] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I've got nothing but we can have a look at it. You got something, Greg? [00:50:48] Speaker A: I've got a few but we want to jump to grants first. We haven't seen grants work for a while so let's jump to grants. [00:50:54] Speaker B: Let's whip it out. It's probably still the same as last time. No, I'm kidding. You haven't posted anything for 18 months. [00:51:02] Speaker C: No, we went out a while ago, went on the canola fields for a little bit, drove around for two hours, took one photo. [00:51:10] Speaker D: You've been doing Aurora's Grant? [00:51:12] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did see some E fault. [00:51:17] Speaker D: Oh yeah, E F up. Yeah. [00:51:19] Speaker B: So this was on that. This was 19 weeks ago. Yeah, it was beef up weekend when. When the Aurora was jumping. [00:51:31] Speaker A: It was got a lot of people excited and bright. [00:51:34] Speaker C: I don't know what. Oh, were we together before this gym? Before I headed out here. I think we're out for dinner. And then I was like, yeah, we were. I'm going out like every time there's an aurora warning, I'm like, nah, it won't happen. Won't happen. Then you see photos next day and yeah, definitely happen. So I'm like, no, I'm going out. Going out. And when I probably while I was taking this photo I was ringing Jim being like, you need to get here right now. [00:52:00] Speaker D: Yeah. And I got. [00:52:01] Speaker A: Where was it? [00:52:02] Speaker D: There's nothing. [00:52:03] Speaker A: Where is it? [00:52:04] Speaker C: This is Lake epilogue. [00:52:05] Speaker D: So it's yeah, 20 minutes out of any game. [00:52:10] Speaker B: Could you see it when you were just standing there? [00:52:12] Speaker C: Yeah, at this stage you could, you. [00:52:14] Speaker B: Could actually see and was. Did it move at all? [00:52:17] Speaker C: Like I couldn't see it moving. Like it's. You see like the videos of the northern lights, how it moves. I couldn't see it doing that, but. [00:52:24] Speaker B: I don't think it does. I think it should shimmers a little bit. Greg, you saw it at bfop, didn't you? [00:52:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I did a little bit. [00:52:31] Speaker B: But we were in town so it was pretty light. [00:52:34] Speaker A: I was standing right next to the fire pit. I wasn't leaving that fire pit. So it was a lot of light, a lot of pollution, but I could still see it. Like I held my little X70 with its struggling 16 megapixel sensor up and it saw the light. So it was pretty powerful. [00:52:49] Speaker B: So your settings here, Grant. So you're in the R5 with 16mm 2.8. Your settings were ISO 800F 2.8 15 second. Did you experiment much with your exposure Settings. And do you reckon you got it right? Did you have to do much in post? Did you just Photoshop that glow in there, or. [00:53:07] Speaker C: I think I just made the foreground a little bit brighter and that was all I've done. Yeah. But I didn't really change from the settings because I was like, this is something that doesn't happen very often and it disappeared very quick. So I was. Yeah, I was just trying. [00:53:22] Speaker D: By the time I got there, it was gone. Like. Yeah, I was trying to pop it, but it was. Yeah, yeah. [00:53:28] Speaker C: This is when Jim was here. [00:53:29] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:53:30] Speaker C: And the cloud started coming through. You can see them going across the top. So. [00:53:36] Speaker A: Still pretty amazing shot. Like, that's. [00:53:40] Speaker C: That's to, like, the left of the photo. There was probably 20 cars there. [00:53:46] Speaker B: Was there? [00:53:47] Speaker D: Yeah, you can probably, like. Yeah, they're probably one behind the tree. [00:53:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I think I positioned it just right. [00:53:54] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:53:54] Speaker C: So not to get anyone there. [00:53:56] Speaker D: Everyone was out on that point and. And, yeah, this was probably the shot by this point. [00:54:01] Speaker B: Yeah. I think epilogue's the place to go. We weren't driving around one night when it was supposed to happen. It's like. It's just so hard to find clear skies. [00:54:08] Speaker D: You just need to. There's a lot of light pollution from the caravan parks and stuff, but, yeah. [00:54:16] Speaker B: Within 20 minutes of Bendigo. Yeah, that's your best option. Really? [00:54:19] Speaker D: Yeah, absolutely. I just mean that they're still. It's still not perfect, but it's pretty awesome. [00:54:26] Speaker B: No. What else you got for us, Grant? Oh, yeah, the Canola shot. [00:54:30] Speaker C: Yeah. That was when we drove around for three hours and done nothing. [00:54:35] Speaker B: We did. I never made a video out of that, but I've got the footage. [00:54:39] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a focus stacked photo. [00:54:41] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure this one. [00:54:43] Speaker C: Love a good focus stack. [00:54:44] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:54:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:45] Speaker C: And that's handheld. [00:54:47] Speaker B: Do you do a lot of photo stacking? When I do photos like this, I do focus stacking. Yeah. [00:54:52] Speaker C: When I do photos like this, I do just. Yeah, just to get the foreground and the background both sharp, crispy, I think. Yeah. But having the R5 now, you can. [00:55:04] Speaker B: Just hand hold with the image stabilization combined with a pretty fast shutter. You can. Yeah. [00:55:12] Speaker C: That's so good. [00:55:13] Speaker B: I remember when that was first a thing. If you had, like. If you had a one series camera, like a Canon one DX or something like that. That was when people were first, like, you can shoot a handheld HDR photo. Remember when HDR was the thing? [00:55:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:55:30] Speaker B: Because the. Because the sensors. Canon sensors weren't good enough to capture, you know, Enough dynamic range, so you would have to shoot three or even five photos or, you know, one stop apart, merge them in, like a weird lightroom plugin that would sometimes freeze, and then you would have to try not to make it look fake. With editing, which most people did not succeed with, those HDR days were. They. Were. They were truly a fun time for photography. [00:56:00] Speaker D: Well, that's. That's the modern version of that is like real estate. [00:56:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:06] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:56:06] Speaker B: Where everything's just clean, edit, perfect. Yep. [00:56:11] Speaker D: That's the modern. Modern version of a hdr. I feel. [00:56:17] Speaker A: There'S still some landscape photographers out there that use it, and it just. I don't know, it's that over. Saturated over correct. [00:56:26] Speaker B: If, If. If the viewer can't tell that it's been done, then that's per. Like they've executed on it perfectly. You know, like, if I see a landscape photo, I don't care if it's been stacked or not stacked or whatever, but if you can tell it has, you're like, but what's that one in. [00:56:43] Speaker A: The middle of the stars? It's a galactic core. Yeah. [00:56:49] Speaker C: There's another Aurora attempt. [00:56:51] Speaker D: Yeah. Yeah. [00:56:55] Speaker B: Again. [00:56:56] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:56:56] Speaker C: We met Joel Bramley out there too. He's a Bendigo legend. [00:57:00] Speaker D: I'd say photography photographer, Instagram guy. Yeah, he's always shooting all the stuff. [00:57:09] Speaker B: Would you. Would you say, Grant, that you only shoot at Epilogue at night time, or. [00:57:14] Speaker C: Do you sometimes around Bendigo? Yeah, I haven't really ventured out lately, so it is. [00:57:22] Speaker B: It is close to home. [00:57:24] Speaker D: Did you shoot on your iPhone, Grant? Josh Derouge Constructions. He wasn't sure. [00:57:29] Speaker C: Yeah, the iPhone 12. It's got a good camera. [00:57:33] Speaker D: There's the cathedral where I was gonna say that's. That's the capital. Oh, wow, that's a good shot. Did you shoot that on Your. On your R5? [00:57:43] Speaker C: I just asked the. The host and they just said just get up there. [00:57:48] Speaker D: So, yeah, you're allowed. You're allowed to go up there. [00:57:50] Speaker B: So that was just. That was the balcony above the one that Jim shot from for that one. [00:57:54] Speaker C: Was this the balcony kfc. [00:57:56] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:57:57] Speaker B: Yeah. So you flew a drone around town? [00:58:01] Speaker C: I did. [00:58:02] Speaker B: Did you have to get. [00:58:04] Speaker C: I did not get permission for that. [00:58:06] Speaker B: Okay, well, you're moving on. [00:58:09] Speaker D: You're outside the city boundaries. [00:58:11] Speaker B: Moving right along. Yeah. Very cool. Love the colors. Bright is always beautiful. Speaking of bright, show us your four. [00:58:20] Speaker D: Favorite photos of bright. Let's go. [00:58:22] Speaker B: Bruce says he believes the Beef op Aurora was organized by Nick, part of the service that they offer at beop. So hopefully they'll they'll do another Aurora shoot for us this year. [00:58:32] Speaker D: They said it's coming back. [00:58:33] Speaker A: We need to be ready for it this time. [00:58:34] Speaker B: We need to get these. Those BE boys on the podcast at some stage. [00:58:38] Speaker A: Well, I reached out. Matt's been very busy. I think he's also had Covid. [00:58:43] Speaker B: He's done a lot of workshops and trips lately. [00:58:45] Speaker A: Yeah, he's been really flat out. And I reached out to him to try and get him on tonight to talk about the upcoming BFOP collab with camera house Croydon. Because they're turning 40. [00:58:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:57] Speaker A: But unfortunately he's a bit busy, so we'll get him on soon, don't worry. I've got a. I've got a Thursday morning slot saved for him. [00:59:05] Speaker B: Nice. [00:59:06] Speaker A: But getting in touch with. With Matt Crummond. Matt, if you're listening, please answer my calls. [00:59:10] Speaker B: Seriously, if you're listening, you probably shouldn't be. Should probably be asleep or something, given how much work you're currently doing. But that Croydon thing sounds very cool. [00:59:22] Speaker A: Yeah, it looks interesting. [00:59:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like a mini, little mini photo festival. [00:59:27] Speaker A: Get everyone together with cameras. [00:59:30] Speaker B: That's what it sounds like. I might have to try and get down to that if there's any tickets left. Okay, cool. What else? [00:59:39] Speaker A: Nice collection. Nice collection. [00:59:42] Speaker B: Nice. Autumn colors of bright. Was that the winning. The winning photo? [00:59:48] Speaker D: Yeah. Did you shoot him like, when you shot that? Did you shoot him like a. As he was driving away from you? Like a few. As in did you get him closer and then you got him further away and you're like, no, that's the shot there. [01:00:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I had the 7200 on for that and he. I was taking photos off the line, mate, without him in it. And then he drove past. [01:00:09] Speaker B: For those of you just listening, I know the image. The image review section kind of is not ideal, but there's a man on a tractor with a cool hat, a farming man driving down a dirt road, and it's kind of like arched with beautiful, bright autumn colors. [01:00:27] Speaker A: Well, now we're going to have to go back and do this to all of Jim's photos because you didn't describe what everyone was wearing at the wedding. [01:00:33] Speaker B: It was a bride and groom that was an oversight suit and white dress. Same. [01:00:38] Speaker D: Mind. [01:00:38] Speaker A: You seen them all? [01:00:39] Speaker B: No, but this is the winning shot. This is the shot that won you a coupon, that got some of your money off your R5. This is the winning. The winning shot. And. [01:00:48] Speaker A: Nice. [01:00:49] Speaker B: I think that the difference, obviously, and we all know it, the difference between this and if that tractor wasn't on the road and that man even wasn't looking after one side. [01:01:00] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:01:00] Speaker B: It would be a very different shot, actually. If it was just the back of his hat, it would be different, but I think still probably very cool. But if there's no tractor at all, it would just be a shot of a road with some nice trees. And that's often what we get when we're just cruising around. But it's the. The. The extra elements. [01:01:18] Speaker D: You gotta be there, though. Like, you've gotta be out there to get. [01:01:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:21] Speaker D: Like, you gotta be there to get a photo of it to wait. [01:01:26] Speaker B: And you know that it hasn't been Photoshopped because Grant should have removed this. If it was photoshopped, this distraction pole. [01:01:36] Speaker D: And the one next to it, which one? [01:01:41] Speaker B: I could now, I would have been happy with the brown one. But the white. The white pole kind of brings it into a more modern era for me. If that was gone, it would feel very timeless. But I'll let it go because, yeah, it proves that it wasn't. [01:01:54] Speaker A: He's got to let it go, Grant. [01:01:56] Speaker B: A photoshopped image. I'll let it go. I don't know if I would have given you first prize in a photo. [01:02:01] Speaker C: Comp, but maybe pretty average photos. [01:02:06] Speaker B: Did you check to see if anyone else entered? That's what I would have. If I want a photo comp, I would honestly be like. That would be. My first thing. Would be like, how many people actually entered. Because my sister once won. This is no kidding. She won the first prize off a Cantong packet. You know, like Cantong stir fry sauce. Yeah. [01:02:31] Speaker A: Chicken tonight kind of thing. Yeah, yeah. [01:02:33] Speaker B: So you get like the can of stuff and you tip it into your stir fry and you stir it up. The label of that was one of those. Send this in for an entry to win a trip for four to Hong Kong. I went on that trip. She actually won off a packet of Canton. And you know what else? She won third prize, too. It was a walk. She won first and third prize. [01:02:57] Speaker A: How's that fair? [01:02:58] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure only she entered twice and someone else entered once, and that was it. [01:03:05] Speaker C: That's awesome. [01:03:06] Speaker B: We went to Macau. It was my first overseas trip. [01:03:10] Speaker D: How old were you then? [01:03:12] Speaker B: I think I was like, 19 or 20 or something. [01:03:15] Speaker D: Wow, that's crazy. [01:03:16] Speaker B: It was very cool. Anyway, so, yeah, enter comps. You never know if you're gonna win or not. [01:03:22] Speaker A: That's true. [01:03:23] Speaker B: We've given away a few camera straps over the last few weeks, and it was like a 1 in 6 chance of winning a 225 camera strap. And all you had to do is type a comment in. [01:03:33] Speaker D: Just had to be here for a minute. [01:03:34] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, just had to be here. [01:03:39] Speaker C: It was actually a different photo. I've got it up on the TED's website. [01:03:43] Speaker B: Oh, it wasn't that photo. [01:03:48] Speaker C: But you can't see the post in that. And it was a 1200 dollar R55. [01:04:00] Speaker D: You're 1200? [01:04:01] Speaker C: That's unreal. [01:04:02] Speaker B: It was a big chunk. That's a pretty good price. So you removed that white post in the other shot or you moved your position to sort of block it by. [01:04:11] Speaker C: The looks of it. I've removed it. [01:04:14] Speaker A: I told you. [01:04:15] Speaker B: Didn't I tell you I called it And I didn't even know you did call it. Anyway, what else? [01:04:28] Speaker A: I got a couple of shit. Yeah, I wanted a photo walk last week. Let me just go to. [01:04:33] Speaker D: Where'd you go? [01:04:35] Speaker A: That's a good question. Why can't I find my photos present? No, let me load them. [01:04:46] Speaker B: Well, I'm sure they were good. [01:04:48] Speaker A: Shut up. [01:04:49] Speaker D: I believe you. [01:04:50] Speaker A: All right, let's just do this screen. Maybe this will work. Oh, just about. End of the stream. No, don't end the stream. [01:04:58] Speaker B: Not end stream. Share screen. [01:05:00] Speaker A: Stay away from the light. Why can't I find it? TCL folder. Okay, here we go. So I went on a street walk in the city. I took about 25 photographers on a street walk around Melbourne. And I set them some challenges because a lot of them never done street. And they were all very inquisitive about, you know, settings and lenses. And so I set them some challenges. And so the challenges were to shoot square and black and white, only because a lot of these people, a lot of them were OM system photographers. Probably at least 60% of them were OM shooters. Most of them do landscapes, birding. You know, they're kind of in that demographic. So I really wanted to shake it up. I wanted them to think more about removing some of those. Not limitations, but just. Just making it interesting. Making them think differently about how they compose. And by removing the ability to either hold your camera, landscape or portrait, you kind of remove that distraction. You have to work within the one by one frame. [01:06:11] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:06:11] Speaker A: So it's just more of a creative challenge. So I took a few shots while I was there. It was a really good night. It was a really fun night. It was nice night out and they were all really happy with the walk and that sort of thing. Not a lot of. I wasn't overly kind of Inspired, but very much getting my sort of street shots in while I was at it. So this was with the Fujifilm XC4 with a XF27 2.8. It's the Fuji pancake lens. So really minimal, really simple kit. [01:06:47] Speaker D: And this shoots square in camera? [01:06:50] Speaker A: No, because I was shooting raw, so I would have had to switch to jpeg. I just. I just did this in post. But don't tell them that if you're watching. [01:07:02] Speaker D: Did you. Did you crop exactly center or did you crop where it looked best? [01:07:09] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Jim, what you said. [01:07:12] Speaker D: Okay. [01:07:16] Speaker A: Even in post production, going square is tricky because it goes against everything that you've. You know, you've always done. Like, you work within a. Either a landscape or a portrait frame for the most, you know, for at least 90% of your work, if not more. Anyway, I was leading the show. I didn't have to, you know, be a role model. No, I just like the color. And these guys were having a blast. [01:07:40] Speaker D: That's cool. [01:07:41] Speaker A: That's so excited. I think it was the first time. Yeah. [01:07:44] Speaker D: Yeah, it works really well. [01:07:47] Speaker A: And that punchy green coming through, especially against the green as well. [01:07:52] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. That was a security guard earning his wage doing nothing. This is one of my favorite shops in the. Nice. From the night. [01:08:06] Speaker B: That's cool. [01:08:07] Speaker A: The orange people were dancing. Have you guys ever seen the orange people in Melbourne? [01:08:10] Speaker B: No. [01:08:11] Speaker A: They're like Hare Krishna's and they dance and they play bongos and ring bells and usually there's a procession of them. There's about 10 of them this time around. And this guy was really into it. They sing songs of love and flowers and. [01:08:24] Speaker B: And they. They're pretty happy with you shooting? [01:08:27] Speaker A: Yeah, they were. Yeah. In some of the other shots, they would stop and give me a thumbs. [01:08:31] Speaker B: Up or hang on a minute. That's not square. [01:08:35] Speaker A: No, that one's not. That's just. [01:08:40] Speaker C: We only get the. [01:08:43] Speaker A: Yeah. I needed that guy in the show. This is before I met up with the group, before I set the rules. [01:08:48] Speaker D: Fair. [01:08:49] Speaker B: Okay. No, that's cool. That's totally. [01:08:52] Speaker A: No, it's not. But I just like the contrast between the two guys, like, in their mood and their dress and their, you know, he's happy and big and loud and the other guy's kind of in this corner and. And I like the typography in it. And. [01:09:10] Speaker B: Did you try it. Did you try it in black and white? [01:09:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I did some others in black and white. Not this shop. [01:09:18] Speaker B: Not that one. [01:09:19] Speaker A: One's in this sequence. Yeah. Yeah, there Might be one in here. [01:09:25] Speaker D: This is very. [01:09:26] Speaker B: This is very. [01:09:26] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. [01:09:27] Speaker B: This is before. This was at the start of the night, but it's. Yeah. [01:09:30] Speaker D: The time out of orders. Whatever. [01:09:34] Speaker A: This is square. What are you people talking about? Oh, look, I'm done. This is square. [01:09:38] Speaker B: Hang on. Go. Go back to the one. Go back to the one. That's the illegal photo. That's not square. No, no, go back to that. I really like the exact spot where that guy is in that frame is nice. Like the. No, sorry, the. The other two frames forward. Yeah, the other color. Yeah, that one. Yeah, like. Yeah, this is perfectly positioned in that photo. [01:10:02] Speaker A: Yeah, this is a fairly typical approach for me, where I'll find a really nice background. Like, I mean, look at it. You've got gorgeous light, you've got grime, you've got decaying tiles, you've got bits that are lit up instead of dark. I haven't touched any of that. [01:10:18] Speaker B: The color palette itself, too. Yeah, it's all. [01:10:23] Speaker D: Yeah, it's almost filtered similar to that green. [01:10:27] Speaker B: It looks like it's. It's being color graded for a movie or something. [01:10:31] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:10:32] Speaker C: Leading lines heading towards him as well. [01:10:34] Speaker A: Yeah. And so this is. This is a common approach that I take with street. I look for those. All of those elements, especially leading lines and where light is just falling beautifully. I mean, look at the ceiling, where the lights are cast in this. [01:10:44] Speaker B: Yeah, that. [01:10:44] Speaker A: These kind of arch clothes. And you've got this guy coming through who looks smart and he just had. He just had a good physique about him that sort of fitted with the shot. Like there's. I don't know. Yeah, it works for me. [01:10:59] Speaker B: Notice Jim, too, that the. The lines. The leading lines don't chop straight through his neck. [01:11:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:11:04] Speaker B: Which I think is quite nice. [01:11:06] Speaker D: Technically. It does go through his head. Yeah. [01:11:09] Speaker B: But, no, that's fine. It's totally fine. Absolutely. It's perfect. [01:11:13] Speaker D: Oh, Back to square and black and white. [01:11:16] Speaker A: And these are the. These are the poor on the Frankston Line who just got told that their train's going to be an hour. [01:11:21] Speaker B: Oh, no. [01:11:22] Speaker A: They just had to sit there on. [01:11:23] Speaker D: The hot day in the train and in those. That looks an old train, too. [01:11:28] Speaker A: Yeah. It wasn't anything sparkly, that's for sure. [01:11:31] Speaker D: Yeah. Cool. [01:11:32] Speaker A: Melbourne's got some sparkly trains. Anyway, that's just what I did last week. [01:11:35] Speaker D: Nice. [01:11:36] Speaker B: Very cool. I've actually. I just. I realized I do actually have three or four photos we can. We can have a look at. [01:11:45] Speaker A: Let's do that. [01:11:46] Speaker B: They're from My activity on the weekend, I ran a Spartan race. [01:11:53] Speaker A: Did you photograph Yelena having a stack? [01:11:56] Speaker B: No, because I was literally right. Right next to her when that happened also. [01:12:01] Speaker D: Oh, were you? [01:12:02] Speaker B: Yeah. We're on the same monkey bars. [01:12:04] Speaker D: It's like at the start it was. [01:12:06] Speaker B: 4K'S in and she ran the rest of the 21k race with a dislocated wrist. [01:12:11] Speaker A: Oh, my God. She's a guy. [01:12:12] Speaker B: And when. And she went over half the obstacles and the other obstacles that she couldn't do because her wrist was dislocated. She gave herself penalty squats because she couldn't do the obstacles. Anyway, so these, this small collection of photos I took at the end of the race. [01:12:31] Speaker D: Is this phone or camera, you guys? [01:12:34] Speaker B: Guess. [01:12:39] Speaker A: Oh, square, black and white. Hey, torture. [01:12:42] Speaker B: It's. I got your memo, Greg. I was like, I need to. I need to get on it. [01:12:47] Speaker A: Okay. [01:12:53] Speaker D: That guy rolling his ankle and that's it. [01:12:56] Speaker B: Just a few little shots. [01:12:57] Speaker C: I got some photos from the Spartan this weekend. [01:12:59] Speaker B: You sure did. But yeah, they were all just on the iPhone. Quick black and white conversion. I actually didn't realize how easy it was to do a copy and paste on the iPhone if you. So I edited this first shot and then I just copied the black and white settings across. [01:13:18] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [01:13:19] Speaker B: And hang on. Can I zoom in on that? How does zoom work with these things these days? There we go. And like, you know, it's not pretty good. Yeah, it's. It's. It's not a dslr, but it's pretty sharp. It's pretty sharp. [01:13:37] Speaker A: And which iPhone is this? [01:13:42] Speaker B: 15. I think it's like pretty new one. Yeah, pretty new one. It's got the multiple lenses. So like the first shot, that's the. With the wide angle lens, which is why it's got the distortion down the bottom. But I wanted to get the wrist. Yeah. So. And the stuff in the background. So. Yeah, so you can use the wide angle. That's I. And the other cool thing with the iPhone is that you can choose your standard lens. You can choose it to be 24, 28 or 35 mil. So when I open my camera, it defaults to 28 mil, which is what this would have been shot this. This photo, which is to me a normal focal length. To operate on this, I cropped to square because it had some boring stuff behind him. It was just a quick shot. He actually, this guy got a very, very fast time. He would have been on the podium, but because he wore these headphones, he got a six minute penalty, which Knocked him off the podium, which is why I took this photo. I thought he would want to remember the time that he missed out on getting on the podium because he wore headphones and that was against the rules. [01:14:47] Speaker D: Did he know that or he just. [01:14:50] Speaker B: It was talked about, but no one really knew for sure. And then, yeah, obviously it was a real thing. [01:14:55] Speaker D: So did you get a six minute penalty? [01:14:59] Speaker B: No, I didn't wear headphones. [01:15:00] Speaker D: Oh, okay. [01:15:01] Speaker B: I had no. I'd wanted to talk to everyone. I was running past people. People running past me. You want to be like, g'day. [01:15:05] Speaker C: I think Matt had headphones in too, didn't he? [01:15:09] Speaker B: Matt had headphones in. I think he got away with it because he wore a hat. Anyway, I'm sure this is riveting content for all the photographers out here. Sorry. But anyway, I just take photos on my phone quite a bit. But what I forget to do sometimes is make them a bit more intentional and do a quick edit on them if I enjoy them and actually treat them like a photo I've taken on a camera. I think I dismiss them too many times as just, I just took that because I wanted to remember it or whatever. I don't put that little bit more effort in and make it a little bit more intentional. And they do take great photos. And it makes me want to get that little, like a thumb grip for my camera. [01:15:50] Speaker A: Same. [01:15:50] Speaker B: I was just thinking of it. Yeah, I. You know, why not? It might make shooting with your phone a lot more fun. And that brings us. [01:16:00] Speaker A: You'll look great. [01:16:01] Speaker B: And that brings us to our next segment that I call Gear Talk. [01:16:08] Speaker D: Cool. I should go get something from my camera bag. [01:16:12] Speaker B: Oh, because you've been buying stuff while you do that, we'll talk about. We'll talk about what's in my shopping cart. Oh, I knew this would happen. If there's not four of us on here, that's all right. We'll just have to deal with this for now. [01:16:23] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:16:24] Speaker B: With the big heads, I'm. I've been. I want to buy a film camera. I shot some film the other day. Jim and I. Jim had to take some photos of a car for a friend. And so I took my Nikon film cameras and borrowed one of his lenses because I haven't got any lenses to fit him anymore. And I shot a couple of rolls. There was half a roll left in my Nikon F100. So I shot the rest of that and I shot another roll. But it got me thinking. And I don't think I want to buy lenses for those cameras. Autofocus, Nikon lenses for those cameras. So I think I might buy a Canon film camera. And I found a nice. A nice little. Yeah, but like A. An SLR, not A. No, hang on. [01:17:13] Speaker D: They're all SLR. [01:17:16] Speaker B: An EOS, like 1N. So an autofocus SLR. Because I really think the manual focus film camera that I want in the future is a Leica. But I can't bring myself to buy one of those right now. [01:17:34] Speaker A: No surprises there. [01:17:38] Speaker D: It's a lot of camera. [01:17:39] Speaker B: I just love. I love the rangefinder style of focusing, but there's nothing else to buy other than like us. Like, what else do you buy? Someone help me out. You know, what's cheaper? That takes a nice image. So anyway, in the meantime, I'm thinking of buying and I want you guys to give me a stamp of approval. Canon EOS1N. It's one of their later film cameras, but not the latest. The One V is way too expensive. They're like 1500 bucks for some reason. They're very sought after. They're the last film camera that Canon made. So this is. This is probably the second last. Almost lost my microphone. And I think I'm going to pair it with Canon's EF 51.2. That was an iconic lens right up until they went to mirrorless. And then they brought out their newer 50s, which are sharper and stuff like that. But that lens has beautiful character. It's got some quirks and stuff about it too, but I can get my hands on one pretty cheap. What do you think? [01:18:45] Speaker A: Do it. Do it. [01:18:47] Speaker D: Why wouldn't you? [01:18:48] Speaker B: I, like, usually do it. Grant's like, how much? What's cheap? You're a smart guy, Grant. Because I just said cheap, it doesn't mean it's actually cheap. [01:18:55] Speaker D: Cheap adjustments compared to his Leica. [01:18:59] Speaker B: No. $800. $800 for the lens, which. That's a very nice lens. And I actually think it'd be fun to do a comparison to my new RF 51.2 lens on the digital cameras and just see like what, you know, what's the difference these days for something that's a third of the price? [01:19:17] Speaker D: Do like a back to back comparison. [01:19:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:19] Speaker D: And just look at the back of the camera. See, which is. [01:19:22] Speaker B: Yeah, close enough. And then. Yeah, the camera itself is. Is $350 is very clean. [01:19:31] Speaker A: Wow. [01:19:33] Speaker B: What, you reckon too much, Greg? [01:19:34] Speaker A: No, no, I think it's a good price. I think. Go for it. [01:19:36] Speaker B: Yeah, go for. [01:19:37] Speaker D: That lens is always going to be worth those that Money. [01:19:41] Speaker B: It might. [01:19:41] Speaker D: So will the camera a little bit. [01:19:43] Speaker B: I. I think so, because I don't think, like, where are they going to go? And I think people will want to use those film cameras. I mean, it is autofocus, so it doesn't have the same. And it's auto winding, so it doesn't have the same. You know, some people really want the older style, the fully analog, but there will be people that want something that's a bit more automated, shoots really well. And, and yeah, my theory is if, if it's worth. [01:20:09] Speaker A: If it's worth it to you and it's exciting you about photography and it means that you'll get out and explore a new craft or a new part of our craft, then do it. [01:20:19] Speaker B: Film is exciting me at the moment. I'm really keen to get some roles done and get down to Lumina Labs. [01:20:25] Speaker A: Yeah. And if you drop, if you drop a couple of hundred bucks on film and then you realize that actually it's not for you, well, you've learned a lot of stuff. That in itself is priceless. And if you look after your gear, it should hold its retail value. [01:20:38] Speaker D: Yeah, Yeah. [01:20:40] Speaker B: I think with film gear. I was messaging with Joel Alston. Alston. Alston film photographer, about film cameras the other day, and I need to get him on a Monday night show to talk film bodies and maybe him and, and John from Lumina Labs. And he was like, he was like, dude, you can't overthink buying film. This is. I'm paraphrasing, dude, bro, you can't overthink film cameras too much. He said none of them will be for life. It's a journey. You just buy them and sell them. If you look after them, you won't lose much money. And you slowly figure out which ones suit you and which ones don't. He's like, but don't overthink it. Like, you're buying this camera as the last camera you're ever going to use to shoot films, because you won't. And he's like, like he's, you know, he's completely changed his kit recently. [01:21:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:34] Speaker B: And then he was like, also, I've got a Hasselblad for sale. [01:21:39] Speaker A: That's why he was sweet talking to you. That's cheap compared to what they were when they released mirrorless and mount change just destroyed EF mounts. [01:21:49] Speaker B: That's right. That's right. You know, it just, it completely devalued the lenses, which is why this. There's some steel. So there's the, the original 35 mil Canon L lens because they brought out the 35 II in AF as well. So there's both those. But the 35 original would be totally fine for film. I think they brought out that too as like an updated digital, you know, higher resolution lens or whatever. But the 35 version 1 is very sought after. They're going well under a thousand dollars. They were at three or four, $3,000 lens, do two and a half. [01:22:23] Speaker A: I think a 51.2 is a good starting point. [01:22:25] Speaker B: Oh, for sure. That's. [01:22:27] Speaker A: Well, you know, it's such a. Yeah, you know, it's such a, A classic go to lens. When you're starting out in photography almost, you know, when you're starting with a new camera, first thing you want to try and do is get a fast, a fast 50 mil, you know, and I think that's a good way to start and then you can build on it from there. [01:22:44] Speaker B: And you know what this means, Jim? You can buy, you can borrow my F100, but the only lens you've got that'll work with it is that 20. [01:22:54] Speaker D: Currently 2016 to 35. [01:22:57] Speaker B: Oh, and the 16 who go wide. [01:23:00] Speaker D: The same 12 mil. [01:23:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Because it's manual focus that will. So Nick Nikon F mount spanned a very wide range of cameras obviously for a long, long time. But their last series of primes, which is funnily enough what Jim shoots a lot on now is their E series of primes. And the E series, the way that it opens and closes the aperture, doesn't work with older generation F mount bodies. So they're stuck at a certain aperture. Whereas the G series, which was all still pretty new, the G series lenses all work fine. [01:23:37] Speaker C: Yep. [01:23:38] Speaker B: So cool. Anyway, fun fact for people that. [01:23:41] Speaker A: What are you hiding, Jim? What did you, what did you get? [01:23:44] Speaker B: What'd you buy? [01:23:45] Speaker D: I bought a new flash. [01:23:46] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:23:47] Speaker A: Oh, you got it. Was it the one with the. [01:23:49] Speaker D: The auto kind of by itself, just like this. Oh, but it's really good. Look, it goes past. So you don't even have to. Remember how you used to have to spin them around. Spin around and then do it backwards? Yeah, you can just have it there and then you can just flick it straight back. So. [01:24:06] Speaker B: And, and then you can use that little front flash. The little front flash to fill in. [01:24:10] Speaker D: So it's a little front flash there. You can take that off. [01:24:12] Speaker B: I, I call that front flash the red eye maker. [01:24:16] Speaker D: You see. [01:24:20] Speaker B: So when you take that off, what does that do? [01:24:22] Speaker D: Well, then it, it's got the. Which is supposed to be the focus assist, but it doesn't work for me yet. But it could be my Z8. I've tried all the settings I can think of. I can't get it to focus beam. And there's people online that are saying that they can't. Someone said that theirs was broken, had it replaced, so hopefully mine's not broken or just doesn't work. But why. [01:24:47] Speaker B: Why do you remove that fill flash? [01:24:50] Speaker D: So that. I'm pretty sure that. So you can get a focus man. Because this part doesn't. I don't think has a focus beam. So the focus beam assist is under there. [01:24:58] Speaker B: So that's like a little interesting. [01:25:04] Speaker A: Have you used it yet? [01:25:05] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, I used it on the weekend. It was good. It's like, so far it's better. So my other flash is that I use on cameras like an SB910, an old Nikon. Be 10 years old now. And yeah, this is heaps better. Doesn't jump around. This will just stay zoomed at whatever zoom you want. Whereas the other one used to change go to what your lens was zoomed to. It was quite frustrating. [01:25:28] Speaker A: Okay. Yep. [01:25:30] Speaker D: But it does have little magnet mounts. [01:25:35] Speaker B: Oh, for the. Like. Oh, so that's why you use the gel. So that was your backlight for that dance photo. Use the gel on. Because you got your new gel kit and that's why it was actually a smoother. You could tell that was a nice smooth. [01:25:49] Speaker D: It was light coming around. [01:25:51] Speaker B: It was. It was, yeah. Because. And the Fresnel lenses on your traditional speed lights throw out kind of an ugly pattern towards the edges. It's like square. And it also drops away sort of quickly. Yeah. [01:26:07] Speaker D: Comes there. Well, sorry, this was an optional extra that comes with everything, but that's good. I'm happy. [01:26:14] Speaker A: Good. Glad to see you're already putting it to use. [01:26:18] Speaker B: You've been buying any gear, Grant? [01:26:21] Speaker C: Not for a long time. [01:26:22] Speaker B: Not for a long time. [01:26:23] Speaker C: No, I haven't for a while. [01:26:25] Speaker D: What's. What's next on the list? [01:26:26] Speaker C: What's next? I actually got to start shooting again. So once I start shooting, that's when the. The wants and needs will come in. [01:26:34] Speaker B: Yeah, well, you probably. Is there. You probably don't need anything. Your kit's rounded out now, isn't it? Like, tell us, like, what are you shooting with? What's. What are you going to take on this epic trip up the coast? [01:26:45] Speaker C: 16 mil. The 2.8. 24. The canon. Yeah, sorry. [01:26:51] Speaker B: Well, R5. Which means all the lenses are Canon, because. [01:26:55] Speaker D: Yeah. Oh, yeah. [01:26:56] Speaker B: Sorry because. Because no One else is allowed to make them? Yeah. [01:26:59] Speaker C: And I got the 24 to 72.8. And then I've recently. All the most recent purchase was the 70-200-F4. [01:27:07] Speaker B: That lens is sick. [01:27:09] Speaker C: And it's a cool little lens. I'm very happy. [01:27:11] Speaker B: What weighs more, your 2470 or the 7200 2470? Yeah, that lens is that 70 to 200 f4 is so small. [01:27:21] Speaker A: Is that the one you got online, Justin, and you tested? [01:27:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. I borrowed one for a little while. Yeah, I didn't buy it. I. I wanted to buy it, but I'm. I didn't want to sell the 2.8. I mean, I use 2.8 a lot when I shoot mountain biking in low light. And I. But on the other hand, I also can't justify owning two 7002 hundreds. That's insane. So I. I ended up deciding against it. But, man, it is. If I didn't have to shoot in low light at fast shutter speed so often, because often, you know, you got to shoot at 1600 or maybe you can drop it down to like 1200. It's just I'm regularly at pretty high ISOs anyway, and then being limiting myself to F4 would double the ISO again. It's just. I don't know if it wasn't for. [01:28:14] Speaker D: That last time you had two 7200. So you sold the 2.8 and you. [01:28:18] Speaker B: Kept the F4 for weddings. [01:28:21] Speaker D: Yeah, like, and we, you know, it was definitely still shooting in low light. [01:28:25] Speaker B: The difference is with weddings, you can go way slower shutter speeds. And I had a pro, I had a prime to go with it. So it's like if you can whip out an 85 or a 105 or a 135 prime when you need to at a wedding, you can have the F4 for the lighter weight and flexibility through the day. And then you just whip your prime out when you need it when the light drops. But when you got this stuff in your backpack and you only want to take a couple of lenses on a mountain bike ride, and then the light drops and you don't have a prime to switch to the difference in F2, F4 and an F 2.8 does, for me, it was meaningful. [01:29:00] Speaker D: But anyway, you can just borrow grants. [01:29:04] Speaker B: That's right. Perfect. [01:29:07] Speaker C: Barely gets brand new and still in the packet. [01:29:09] Speaker B: That's right. If only you shot Ken and Jim, you could share our stuff too. [01:29:14] Speaker D: No, I like good, good cameras. [01:29:16] Speaker B: Oh, I heard it. Please. [01:29:22] Speaker A: Very nice. [01:29:23] Speaker D: Come at me and Come at me in the chat. [01:29:25] Speaker B: Speaking of good cameras and I don't know, I don't know if you've noticed this Greg, but what I saw when we spoke to. Who was our guest on last Thursday, who knows Coming back. It's coming back. [01:29:40] Speaker A: Alex Frain. [01:29:41] Speaker B: That's him. So his amazing work and his cool cameras. He had a. What's it called? Panoramic medium format camera. [01:29:53] Speaker A: The Fuji. [01:29:54] Speaker B: The Fuji. And so did John. [01:29:58] Speaker A: Yep. [01:29:59] Speaker B: You meana. And they look very cool. They look very. They're. They. I've been. [01:30:06] Speaker A: And that, that whole, that whole mount with the cage, that whole mount comes off to change the lens. Like the cage goes with it and everything. It's phenomenal. [01:30:14] Speaker B: And it's so. It's medium format but it's shooting like the equivalent of two medium format negatives glued together at once. You know, like. Yeah, huge, huge negatives. I'm a little bit scared about going down to Lumina Labs because John's going to have all those cameras there and I'm gonna, I'm gonna get very excited. Well, I can play. He said I can play with his like M6s. [01:30:41] Speaker D: Yeah, nice M6s. That's crazy that he's got two. [01:30:45] Speaker B: Yeah, six is because one's not enough. [01:30:49] Speaker D: Justin coming back quickly to review. [01:30:51] Speaker B: Talk. [01:30:51] Speaker D: Review Image. Image review. [01:30:54] Speaker B: I can't go backwards, but yeah, sure. [01:30:55] Speaker D: No, I'm not, I'm not asking you to go backwards. We did, we did a shoot last week. You shot film. Should we wait and when you've got your film back and then we'll show like both. [01:31:08] Speaker B: We can have a quick look. I don't think I'll have any shots from that. No, no, we'll have a quick look like when I get them back. But I don't think there'll be much to come compare. [01:31:14] Speaker A: But yeah, no, I think it'd be good to look. I think we should. I think that's important. [01:31:17] Speaker D: Yeah. But maybe we'll hold. So I won't maybe show mine until yours are back. [01:31:22] Speaker B: Okay. [01:31:24] Speaker D: Have you sent them away? [01:31:25] Speaker B: Yep. [01:31:26] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:31:27] Speaker B: Have I. No, I haven't yet. I. I was actually wondering that. I was like will they be these be the ones that we go and develop in person? But I think no, I'm gonna send them off now. That'll help me get a bit of a beat on, get them back from John, get a bit of a beat on where I'm at with film and I'll get this new Canon in the next few days hopefully. [01:31:47] Speaker D: And I see you've said yes. [01:31:50] Speaker B: Look, he's sitting there in messages. Okay? He's, he's. [01:31:54] Speaker D: Have you left him on red? [01:31:56] Speaker B: Yes, I have. So. And, and, and I've. I've tentatively made a plan to get that 50 mil on Wednesday morning. So it's kind of happening. But I did want to pretend you guys were having a meaningful impact on the decision making. But it's pretty much done. [01:32:16] Speaker A: Thanks, mate. [01:32:19] Speaker B: I'm glad you validated my choice of buying yet another camera. And yeah, I want to put a few rolls through that and then head down to the lab and develop those and have a bit of fun. Have you got a camera you can shoot some film with, Greg? You find you a film? [01:32:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I do. I've got one of those cheap 35s. [01:32:39] Speaker D: Is it a Fuji? [01:32:40] Speaker A: No, I said cheap 35s. No, it's just a. It's like one of those ones that comes with the roller film. Not disposable like it's reusable, but it's pretty basic. Yeah, Pretty plastic fantastic. That's all I've got at the moment. [01:32:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:33:03] Speaker A: Nice. [01:33:05] Speaker C: And then I've got another one that the father in law gave me and it's all autofocus. I think I sent it to you the other day. There's a few different lenses in it. [01:33:17] Speaker D: So I'm excited to try that. Yeah, the full kit. [01:33:19] Speaker C: It's got a full like flash and everything with it. [01:33:23] Speaker B: If you get any film for it. [01:33:25] Speaker C: No, I don't. I'm waiting for this. Yeah, I'll. When I get this next rollback, I'll. [01:33:30] Speaker D: What are you, like a film or something? [01:33:32] Speaker B: I got some in my fridge. I've got a few rolls floating around. [01:33:36] Speaker A: It's a pusher. [01:33:37] Speaker B: Yeah, they've been. They've been on ice for probably two and a half years. Someone needs to use them. [01:33:44] Speaker D: If you don't pay for them, you'll be a nice. [01:33:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I think we will all shoot some film and we'll get. Yep, we'll develop some film. [01:33:55] Speaker D: I think it'll be eye opening how much we rely on image review. [01:34:01] Speaker B: I don't clearly, but my horizons will all be slightly tilted. They will be. It's just how I roll. [01:34:12] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's because you're carrying like a. A GoPro or something and a cup of coffee and you've got your big dorky gloves on. [01:34:19] Speaker B: No wonder you get crooked shots. Hey, you've got gloves. [01:34:22] Speaker A: I don't say I wear them. [01:34:25] Speaker B: Wait till this Melbourne winter comes around. You won't take them off? [01:34:29] Speaker A: No, we'll need them then. [01:34:30] Speaker B: He'll have them on inside. [01:34:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Is that the end of gear talk? [01:34:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think I have a screen for after that, so I guess we just. [01:34:42] Speaker D: Do you have anything new? [01:34:43] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I sold a bunch of stuff. Camera bags. [01:34:48] Speaker B: That's what I need to do. I'm gonna have a gear clear out. I think I need to. And it won't even be much, but it'd just be like little stuff that's been laying around, you know, it's not like big cameras and lenses and things, but just stuff. [01:35:01] Speaker A: Speaking of which, did you get my parcel? [01:35:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. Thank you very much. [01:35:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I did. And some better quality straps than the ones you use. [01:35:09] Speaker B: Got some straps for product comparison videos that I need to make Greg sound. I'm very excited. [01:35:14] Speaker A: And the drone. The drone case, the battery case, I thought that might be handy for all those drones you've got. [01:35:19] Speaker B: Yeah. And the little. There was a little. Yeah, the little hot shoe thing and stuff. Yeah. Thank you very much. Yeah, they're just all perfect. Just trinkets now. They product. Product development is in full swing. Got some fun things in the works. [01:35:35] Speaker A: Very cool. Yeah, no, I don't. I've just been shredding gear. Yeah, I got rid of most of it, which is good. I've got two big bags left, which I've donated to camera clubs as prizes and. Yeah, that's it. [01:35:53] Speaker B: That's it. Rick Nelson says a customer gave me a Yashika Minister D35 millimeter film camera she didn't want anymore. It's fully working. So new camera for you. That's because I think that's what I. [01:36:07] Speaker A: Want to go and pick up. I think I want to go and pick up a 35 mil point and shoot like a Yashika what was. Or even an earlier Fuji, something like that. [01:36:15] Speaker B: What's the. What's the really. Context 3. What's the, like, famous one context T3. [01:36:21] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:36:22] Speaker B: It's on all the cool kids. You know what? Hey, you know what I've recently found. Let me pull this up as the last thing that I've actually been enjoying. Speaking of YouTube reviewers, we. We chatted a lot about YouTube reviewers reviewers the other week and. And how it can be hard to trust YouTube reviewers sometimes because you don't know, one, if they're. If they've sort of got any ulterior motives or two, if they're just. They're just busy and they're just trying to get a review out and they maybe don't have the time to really look into, you know, a particular product. But Taylor Jackson is someone whose reviews I've always enjoyed because he is actually working wedding photographer as well as a YouTuber. He shoots hybrid photo video, which is what I learned a lot of stuff when I was slowly trying to learn video as a photographer. So that was quite useful. But also he's funny. He's got a weird sense of humor and he's funny. And he started this new channel. His other channel's pretty big. Yeah. So this new channel, he's. He's only got 236 subscribers. And so like his first video was this, which is I'm watching Leica M6 trip and it's just an hour and 10 minutes of him shooting film on an M6 and a couple other cameras. And he talks about the different film he's using, but he's not an expert. He's like, I might be the first person to ever incorrectly load film into a Leica M6. And he showed the film that he like mangled up in the, you know, thing, you know, it's just, it's quirky and fun and a cool channel and I'm glad it started. Cool. So if you just want to watch someone shoot some film that isn't claiming to be a film guru, you know, they're just, they're just doing what we're doing. It's just, just playing with it. He's got some cool cameras and tries a different film stock and he's in Iceland in the Leica M6 video, which is obviously always fun. Very good. [01:38:17] Speaker A: Nice. [01:38:18] Speaker B: Nice. [01:38:19] Speaker A: Very nice. I think we'll call it. Are we done with Gear Talk? Can we have the. [01:38:23] Speaker D: Do we have a music off the list or. Did you not. You didn't, didn't. [01:38:28] Speaker B: No, I didn't. I didn't make the final. [01:38:29] Speaker D: Didn't do the final. [01:38:32] Speaker B: I'll just, I'll make this big for the, for the end of it. Let's just go. Anyway, finally Paul says tiny Olympus MJU two 35 millimeter compact was brilliant. Second hand ones now up around 800. We have an expensive. [01:38:48] Speaker A: That's one of those. When the kids were little. [01:38:50] Speaker B: Really? Yeah. It's funny how some, some cameras just get. They get like a bit of a cult following and the price just goes up. So. [01:38:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:38:59] Speaker B: Anyway, Cool. [01:39:01] Speaker A: Well, I think on that note we're going to call it a, Call it a night, guys and girls and everyone else watching along or listening along at home. This has been the camera Life podcast episode 54. And it's so good to have Grant Black. Grant Black, Grant back on the channel. It's clearly. [01:39:17] Speaker C: I'm back. [01:39:18] Speaker A: Yes, back, yes. But this has been the random photography show. Please make sure you like and subscribe and keep an eye out. We've got a show coming up this coming Thursday. We'll be back here yelling at your eyeballs and earballs every Monday night and every Thursday morning Australian time. And yeah, we all hope that you have a great. A great few days ahead. We'll see you Thursday morning. And until then, get out and hunt the light. [01:39:45] Speaker B: Yeah, thanks, Philip. Thanks, Tim. [01:39:48] Speaker A: Thanks for watching. [01:39:49] Speaker B: To everyone, if anyone does want to buy a camera strap, I should. I should do an ad, just, you know, right at the end because that's the best time to do an ad. If anyone does want to buy a camera strap, don't forget you can get 15% off with the Code Justin or the Code Greg or the Code Jim. There is no Grant code because he's only been on the podcast once. You got to earn your code. And if you use one of these names, you'll get 15% off. And also we'll know who the best person on the podcast is at Life. So use code Justin for 15 off. [01:40:23] Speaker D: One. One last thing, Tim. [01:40:26] Speaker B: Sorry. [01:40:27] Speaker D: Get the new lens. Get it? [01:40:29] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:40:29] Speaker D: 35 to 150. So I feel like I didn't answer it well enough before. Yeah, it's a good thing. It's very versatile and it's. It's sharp. It's very sharp, so it's a good thing. [01:40:41] Speaker A: Cool. Good advice. All right. [01:40:44] Speaker B: With that. [01:40:44] Speaker A: All right, are we all done? We all silent? [01:40:47] Speaker B: Yep. [01:40:52] Speaker A: Oh, it's almost Perry White. [01:40:56] Speaker D: Use Code Justin, Code Jim.