Cats vs Dogs... but for Photographers - The Random Photography Show

Episode 209 August 17, 2026 02:02:45
Cats vs Dogs... but for Photographers - The Random Photography Show
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Cats vs Dogs... but for Photographers - The Random Photography Show

Aug 17 2026 | 02:02:45

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Cats or dogs. It's the oldest argument going, but tonight we're actually settling it as photographers.

Greg's a cat person. Justin's a dog person. And it turns out the two animals are completely different to shoot. Dogs give you everything, eye contact, expression, they'll hold a look and they actually want to please the camera. Cats give you nothing on purpose. You have to wait and steal the moment when it happens, a bit like street photography with claws.

So the real question underneath all the tribal stuff is this. Do you prefer a subject that performs for you, or one you have to catch? We go back and forth on it, drag in some real pet shoot footage, and let the live chat pick a side.

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sam. [00:00:30] Speaker B: Well, g' day everybody and welcome back to the Camera Life Podcast random photography show. It is Monday 17th August. It just feels like August is flying by all of a sudden. We're, we're over halfway through and with that little bit closer to the Bright Festival of Photography. I'm great [00:00:52] Speaker A: at the start. You couldn't even get into the 15aminute into the show. [00:00:58] Speaker B: Oh. Like we said before we went live, it's our show. We'll do what we want. [00:01:02] Speaker A: That's right, that's right. [00:01:04] Speaker B: I'm great. This is the Camera Life Podcast. Joining me is Justin. How are you, mate? [00:01:08] Speaker A: I'm good, really good. I was working on some beef up stuff today actually. Yeah, it's fun getting organized, but yeah, the clock, the clock is ticking. So we're desperately trying to make sure all of our ducks are in a row for the Bright Festival of Photography 2026. [00:01:24] Speaker B: It's exciting. Yeah, it won't be long. It's, it's coming up very quickly actually. I was booking stuff for my workshops that I'm running now and I was doing September and looking into October and then I realized it's literally just around the corner. Like there it is before you know it. Yeah. Anyway, and of course we'll be at BFOP this year, folks. We'll be at BFOP both as the Camera Live podcast coming to you live from Bright in the Alpine region of Victoria. And then we'll also be there as lucky straps supporting our customers, hanging out with our mates and showing the good people the quality of a lucky straps leather camera strap. [00:02:01] Speaker A: Best camera strap. [00:02:02] Speaker B: I've just done the ad read as well. [00:02:04] Speaker A: That's it. We're done now. [00:02:05] Speaker B: We're done. We can go home. [00:02:08] Speaker A: Nah, we'll keep going. [00:02:10] Speaker B: But folks, we've got a lot of [00:02:13] Speaker A: discuss so we can't, we can't, we can't go yet. [00:02:15] Speaker B: We, we do, we do have a topic we might have. Stick around folks. So today, yeah, we gotta. Tonight we're going to go through all the latest industry news, rumors, that sort of stuff. We do have a topic to discuss. We are looking at cats versus dogs. Of course there is no competition because cats are better. And we're going to check out your images. We have a bucket load. That's a safe way to say it. I was going to use a profanity, but I won't. I'll leave that for later. But there's a bucket load of images. A shed load. I haven't used that for a while. [00:02:50] Speaker A: That's a Good one. [00:02:51] Speaker B: It is a good one. It's an Aussie one. I like it, I like it. But. Yeah, but before we get started, Justin, do you want to do a little add to my ad read or you happy with what I've done so far? [00:03:02] Speaker A: Nah, we'll. We'll talk about that later on. I think that suffices. Everyone knows what we do and who we are and where you can buy the best camera straps on the planet. Use code, Greg. [00:03:10] Speaker B: They should. [00:03:11] Speaker A: They should. [00:03:12] Speaker B: They should use Coke. Greg. [00:03:15] Speaker A: What I do want to do is read out Dennis's comment from 12:30pm today. Early, mega early. Dennis from the School of Light. Dennis Smith says. Yeah, my eight cats would make a pretty solid argument that they kick dogs butts in the photogenic stakes. Okay, okay. [00:03:35] Speaker B: Already got a point for Team Greg. [00:03:37] Speaker A: Mmm, we'll see. We'll do a poll later if I can figure out how to do a poll. Fermi says. I'm glad I didn't forget this week. That's good to see you. Thanks for joining us. Richard Mars here. Good evening. Philip Johnson. Greetings, all. Happy Monday. Happy Monday to you, Sir John Latimer. Evening, all. Hope everyone had a great week. I've got two special needs dogs and a rescue cat. So I'm on the fence. No, that's technically two to one. That's a point. Point for the dogs. So if you had two rescue cats, you might be on the fence, but no, that's. The numbers don't lie there, John. [00:04:11] Speaker B: One cat is worth multiple dogs. [00:04:14] Speaker A: No, it's like 15 cats to one dog in terms of joy. Anyway, we'll get into that. Actually. Actually, I don't even know if that works. Fifteen cats would be terrifying. [00:04:27] Speaker B: I like eight. It's a nice even number. It's almost like a small battalion. [00:04:33] Speaker A: Wouldn't they need a leader as well? Like eight plus a leader? [00:04:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. You'd have to identify the leadership qualities amongst the group and elevate someone you know. [00:04:42] Speaker A: Yeah, the most cattiest of them all. The one that swipes the most stuff off the bench. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one that doesn't take orders from anybody. Kanga. Good to see you. Lucinda's here. Shmit Shah. Rodney Nicholson. David Skinner. [00:05:00] Speaker B: Paul. Hey, everyone. [00:05:02] Speaker A: Hey, Paul. Greg Carrick says, feet up, latte at hand. All set to go. Latte. It's after dinner. [00:05:10] Speaker B: Are you working tonight? Crackers. Are you on the radio? Is that why? Maybe he's a rodeo. He's a radio host. He's a dj. [00:05:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Rick Nelson. Twig Productions. Hope everyone had a great weekend. I did. Did everyone? Did you? Did you? [00:05:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. We'll get to that in a sec. Yep. [00:05:36] Speaker A: John Pickett, David Leporardi. Phil Thompson's. Greg Stubbings. Dennis. Dennis's dogs are dicks. No, they're not. No, I said no one ever. You haven't met my puppy. He's not a dick at all. Phil Thompson votes dogs. Greg Carrick votes goats, digi, frogs. Dogs and frogs. Philip Johnson, wolf. That's a solid vote for the dogs. [00:06:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:06:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Two cats. Two cats and one dog for Richard Miles. So that's one point to team Greg. Damn it. Yeah, Dennis is the dynamics around our house is hilarious. Yeah, I can't even. That must just be like walking into it. Well, into an African safari park and just hoping you don't get taken down by whichever of the eight cats is angry at you at that moment. Surely one of them's always angry. [00:06:34] Speaker B: I think. I don't think that's fair. I don't think that's a fair assessment of cats. That's like saying, you know, all dogs lick balls. [00:06:43] Speaker A: They do. [00:06:44] Speaker B: Well, the males one. [00:06:45] Speaker A: The male ones, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yelena says a cat pissed in my shoe in front of me once. I remember when this happened, like it looked at her while it did it. [00:06:58] Speaker B: Oh, they love the eye contact when [00:06:59] Speaker A: they're being naughty and a dog has never done that to me. So. [00:07:03] Speaker B: Yeah, a dog has peed on your floor at least once this weekend. At least once a day. [00:07:08] Speaker A: It's a puppy. [00:07:10] Speaker B: Cats don't do that. [00:07:11] Speaker A: They come pre cooked ready to do it as a staging a protest as opposed to just an accident on the carpet. Richard Miles says considering the minimum battalion size in Australia is 550, that's a very small battalion. Greg. [00:07:30] Speaker B: I have no knowledge of military so I was just plucking words. Thank you for my continued education. [00:07:38] Speaker A: Greg's Carrick's on the radio to 1am wow, you do need coffee. Tweak production sitting here editing air show photos. Sent one in for tonight. Awesome. Did it come in in time? Yep, got it. [00:07:49] Speaker B: I don't know. Did we? If I have tweaks image we can [00:07:53] Speaker A: check, I might be able to pull off a later. [00:07:56] Speaker B: Maybe it went to you, Jay. [00:07:57] Speaker A: Yeah. With this new system that we've got, we have to. We can't do the late submissions during the show. Oh, no, I mean, I haven't. Let me see. Where did it go? I can't see it either. [00:08:11] Speaker B: No, I didn't get an email. [00:08:16] Speaker A: If you give us a resend, we'll try and track it down. [00:08:20] Speaker B: We'll find. [00:08:21] Speaker A: We're still working out the kinks for our new email address. Let's just talk about that. So if you want to send an image into the show, you can send it into our new email address which is the camera [email protected]. send it to that. We'll find it hopefully and then we'll show it on the next show, the next week. Which is great. [00:08:38] Speaker B: Yeah, [00:08:41] Speaker A: tweaks are. Sent it this morning. I don't see it. [00:08:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't get it again. [00:08:47] Speaker A: Let me check again. No, Last one's on August 10th, eight days ago. Sorry. [00:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah, not sure what happened there, mate. Send again, send it again, tweak. We'll have a look at it. Hopefully tonight, if not next week for sure. Promise. [00:09:05] Speaker A: Yep. [00:09:07] Speaker B: So tell me about your weekend. What'd you get up to on your weekend? Just give us a summary, a recap. [00:09:13] Speaker A: Prepping for garage sale. Not mine, my, my brother and sister, my brother in law and sister selling a heap of stuff. I am putting some stuff in it though. So I was helping them prepare. It's a mega garage sale and I had to, I haven't done a garage sale for. I don't even remember. [00:09:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:09:32] Speaker A: So I had to kind of Google what the, what a modern garage sale looks like. Like do people expect you to have a square or something? Or you know, because it's very common, you know. And, and like what are things priced at these days? Does everything have to be a dollar or five dollars depending on what it is or like I've got camera stuff. Should I put that out there and just put it cheap? I've got like random make someone's day. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:00] Speaker A: No, no, it's nothing. It's nothing. Like it's not a Leica M6 or something put out for $30 but just you know, heaps of old flash modifiers and random, just brackets and stuff. Just stuff. And I thought the camera stuff, I thought I was just going to put it all in one box and just be like assorted camera junk. $10 and someone can then buy it and go through it and get what they want out of it kind of thing rather than pricing it all separately. I don't know. [00:10:28] Speaker B: Yep. Well speaking of that, last week we had a quick conversation on text message and because our friend Philip Johnson, he has a friend who acquired, I think they won a storage unit at auction and it had a Hasselblad xpan in, in the box in that Storage auction in that storage unit that they bought. That in itself just, you know, that. That made. Whatever they paid for it doesn't matter. It made their day for sure. [00:10:58] Speaker A: That's insane. Are they selling it to me or what's happening? Did you figure? [00:11:02] Speaker B: I don't know. I think they're gonna. I think. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. But it was just really cool to see because we were only just talking about it that morning with whoever the guest was we had on that week. Just talking about expansion. Yeah, we were talking about it that morning. And then Philip sends me a message saying, hey, look. Look at my friend. Just found in a storage unit, like a really good condition. Xpan in a box. Don't say that every day. [00:11:27] Speaker A: No, you don't see that every day. You know what got sent through after this week's show? This. This Thursday's guest, who was this Thursday again? What's wrong with my brain? [00:11:39] Speaker B: This coming or last week? [00:11:40] Speaker A: No, no. Just been. Just been. Fill my brain. [00:11:45] Speaker B: I don't keep track of these things. [00:11:47] Speaker A: Come on. [00:11:49] Speaker B: Aaron Walker. [00:11:50] Speaker A: Aaron Walker. There we go. Okay, so remember, Aaron, we're talking about the Godox triggers and stuff for flash. So. And you know how he said he has a particular issue that he wishes because he often mounts the camera really high. He wishes the flash trigger could tilt back so you could see your settings. [00:12:11] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:12:12] Speaker A: Saying that we're talking about it. [00:12:13] Speaker B: Yep. [00:12:14] Speaker A: David Leporardi sent this through. So Godox sell one that fits. It can fit any trigger. It's like a. It goes in between. It's like a little riser with a swivel in it. [00:12:29] Speaker B: Oh, that's clever. Yeah. Oh, you need to send it to. [00:12:34] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm like, I can't wait to send this to Aaron to be like, hey, you know that. That feature that you desperately want, it exists and it. I think it's like $30 or something. Like, they're not even. It's not expensive at all. You can just buy one and it can fit any of the triggers on it and it tilts it back like that. It's so good. [00:12:51] Speaker B: That's so simple and clever. [00:12:56] Speaker A: You know what was clever? Aaron Walker's interview. If anyone wants to find out a bit about the behind the scenes of what it was like to grow up and then join a circus as an actual circus performer and then work around the world doing trapeze before he pivoted into a career as a photographer, it's pretty nuts. Like, he was a professional circus. What are they Called circuses. Professional circus man, circus person circus. [00:13:27] Speaker B: Anyway, I, I like the fact that you mentioned carney folk. [00:13:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:33] Speaker B: Was that you that said khan? No, he said car. [00:13:34] Speaker A: No, he did, he did. [00:13:36] Speaker B: That's right, he did. Yeah. [00:13:37] Speaker A: And like traveling and putting the tent up and doing all that stuff. So he did, yeah. No, Lucinda says just make it in the damn trigger. I mean you could, but it would make the trigger bigger. I actually like this solution better because if I was shooting a wedding or something, I don't want a bulkier camera so I don't want a high, a trigger that's stacked taller or whatever. So this is perfect. It's like, hey, if you want this feature, add it on. Yeah, it can fit any trigger. It's cheap. [00:14:05] Speaker B: Or [00:14:07] Speaker A: you know, if you're just running a fixed trigger for shooting weddings and things like that and you don't want the hassle of having this big tall thing on the camera, I reckon. Yeah, this is perfect. Genius. Well done, Godox. [00:14:19] Speaker B: I think it's clever. Yeah, why not? You wanna hear about my weekend? Do you have any interest? No. [00:14:27] Speaker A: What did you do? Tell me. [00:14:31] Speaker B: I had a workshop on Saturday. I ran a. My first street photography workshop. One on one with a guest client. I don't know, what do we call it? We call them guests or clients, I guess clients probably look professional, friend, [00:14:48] Speaker A: photographer. [00:14:50] Speaker B: It's too limiting. [00:14:52] Speaker A: Okay. I don't know what, you come up with a name. I'll come up with a specific name for people that are on your workshop. Like they'll be called Greglings or something. [00:15:02] Speaker B: Greglings, I like that. I might get some T shirts made. I'm a greglink. But yeah, it went really well. It was a one on one, you know, sort of defining your signature style as a creative and yeah, it was great. I tailored the workshop to suit them. They had a fairly new camera, they wanted to get to know it a bit better. I know a lot about that camera. So we spent the first hour playing around with camera settings and setting up the camera and all that sort of stuff. And we did the street walk and did a few exercises in composition and how to hunt for light. And yeah, it was good. I got great feedback, pretty happy. And I've just released more workshops today. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Really new dates, fresh dates, new dates. [00:15:46] Speaker B: And so September dates are up and I've also added a new work, new new workshop which is a smartphone photographer, smartphone street photography workshop just for people with smartphones. Because I had some people make an inquiry about doing the street photography workshop, but they didn't Want to go head to head against people that were bringing mirrorless and DSLRs because they didn't think that they would get enough attention or to be a very different kind of approach. And so I've yeah, put out a, you know, if you're looking to start in street photography or even just improve your travel photography, it's a great workshop. So. So yeah, check it out. Head to gregchromy blog if you're interested. Say g'. Day. Check out the workshops and there's also stuff on the BFOP side as well about it. [00:16:37] Speaker A: So yeah, in the groupies page. But yeah, for those of you that are, that are beef up groupies. But yeah, very cool. Hopefully people jump in and book that out. Yeah, right now. Go right now. Go do it now go do it. [00:16:49] Speaker B: Go do it. Father's Day is coming up. Oh, great characters. [00:16:54] Speaker A: They could be called a chromie client. Bill Thompson says chromie groupies. [00:17:03] Speaker B: I think you guys can do better than that. I'm disappointed in both of you, to be honest. Yeah, yeah. So. [00:17:10] Speaker A: So we are actually going to discuss cats versus dogs. That is the plan, isn't it? We're really going to do this. [00:17:15] Speaker B: That's in photographic sense. Yes. [00:17:19] Speaker A: And also just in general, like life. [00:17:22] Speaker B: Well, I don't think there's a conversation to be had because cats are better. There's your conversation. [00:17:29] Speaker A: Oh, you've got, you've got no chance. [00:17:33] Speaker B: You reckon? [00:17:33] Speaker A: Oh, Yelena coming in hot. Chromies homies. [00:17:38] Speaker B: Oh no, dude, that's a good one. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that is a good one. I like GregLinks, but Chromies homies sounds kind of sounds a bit cooler than GregLinks. That's creepy. That's a chromie zone. The Irregulars. Greg. Street urchins. Yeah, these are good. Oh, Nev. Clark students. Come on, Nev. Gotta have a little bit of boring. [00:18:07] Speaker B: Nev. You said boring straight down the line. [00:18:10] Speaker A: That's what I call them in my workshops. Students. Oh dear. [00:18:19] Speaker B: Where should we start? Should we talk about cats and dogs a little or do you want to get some news out of the way first? [00:18:24] Speaker A: No, I think we should because I also spotted a couple of things that relate like the 2026 Pet Photography Awards. [00:18:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:34] Speaker A: And then also a cool, a cool behind the scenes video from someone that was in both the Pet International Pet Photography Awards and also NZIPP Awards. So let's start with the. Let's, let's bring this up. Let's bring the Pet Photography Awards up. This was actually. This was like in June Or July this come out. And I did see it and I was like, oh, we should bring this up on the show. And then it just. We didn't have time that week or whatever. But it's perfect right now. So let's have a little bit of a look and see which photos. No, that's not the right one. That's my emails. Wow. Share this tab instead. There we go. [00:19:10] Speaker B: Doxing people. [00:19:13] Speaker A: Nah, Good. Okay, so these are some of the people that have won various Aspects of the 2026 International Pet Photography Year. And they're. They're grouped into like, I think under each person. So this was Kelly Soden. And check out some of these images. Like, look at this, look at that. They're dogs. [00:19:41] Speaker B: They are dogs. [00:19:42] Speaker A: That's very cool. [00:19:43] Speaker B: It is also Dog. [00:19:46] Speaker A: Dog. What about this? [00:19:50] Speaker B: Yeah, that's really cool. I really like that. [00:19:53] Speaker A: It's very clever. Obviously a lot of the pet photography that I saw is a lot of this kind of concept stuff is very creative art inspired as well. So a lot of Photoshop work and things, but very well executed with the imagery. And this. So this is a dog with a little. A little angel, a little devil sitting on its ears. That would probably be very appropriate for a cat as well. Except they'd both be devils. One would be more devilish than the other. Like the good devil and the bad devil. Yeah, Knock the mug off. The other one's like, knock both mugs off. [00:20:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll knock you off. [00:20:34] Speaker A: And then, so this one, this is Belinda Richards. This is a Melbourne. A Melbourne photographer. And check this out. That's pretty cool. [00:20:44] Speaker B: That is very cool. [00:20:46] Speaker A: And then this is a bit of you, I reckon. Look at this, look at this cat. Like, what would you call that? Not a montage. What's the right word for this? Collage? No. [00:20:57] Speaker B: Okay, anyway, I don't know. Yeah, I get it. [00:20:59] Speaker A: But it is amazing, that. All very cool. And I've got a behind the scenes video of how this was done. We'll bring it up in a second. Now the cat. [00:21:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I like that one. I've seen a lot of people on socials and on YouTube doing this where they get that they sort of punch a small hole through a bit of paint. They put, obviously put up a piece of paper in between the cat and the camera and they entice the cat to come through the. Like to rip itself through the cardboard. That's really cool. [00:21:31] Speaker A: The lighting on this would be difficult to execute, to not get like ugly shadows on this one. So the cat's kind of peeking through the rip in the. So to have a really well evenly lit texture on the paper, but not to get the sort of ugly shadows from the creases. That would have been tough. [00:21:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:53] Speaker A: Also to get a cat to do that when it comes. It's cat. [00:21:57] Speaker B: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. [00:22:00] Speaker A: I mean, come on. Look like it's a dog that. Wearing a top hat and glasses. [00:22:07] Speaker B: Look. [00:22:08] Speaker A: And it's reading the dog gone daily. It's a catastrophe. What, you don't like this? You know, this doesn't bring you joy. It's pretty good. And then another. Another creative piece of art with. With one of those skin cats. What are those things called? [00:22:30] Speaker B: Oh, are they Abyssinians? No. Devin. Rex. Is that it? [00:22:36] Speaker A: They're weird. [00:22:37] Speaker B: They are. There's some great photos in here. [00:22:40] Speaker A: Well, I mean, it's the. It's the Pet Photography Awards, I assume it's. You know, the idea is that would be the pinnacle of the. Obviously all the international national, you know, competitions, NZIPP and stuff gets similar level, but this is obviously just focused on pets, so. Yeah, well, there's a cat. There's a cat lover for you. [00:23:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw this once. [00:23:09] Speaker A: The detail in the images is crazy. They really are that fine art level of. Of imagery, lighting. Yeah. The detail to backgrounds and textures and. Yeah, amazing. Anyway, I enjoyed looking at these. [00:23:26] Speaker B: Yeah, they're really cool. They're very cool. And I love the portraits in that. That section you're looking at now. [00:23:32] Speaker A: That's a lot of fun. [00:23:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, [00:23:37] Speaker A: that's a good one with the bird. [00:23:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:42] Speaker A: Sorry to the audio listeners, but, you know, there's not much we can say about. It would be hard to describe all these images. It would take. Take forever. But. [00:23:51] Speaker B: But if you do want to check, just go to pet photographyawards.com forward/2026 hyphen awards. Yeah, you'll be able to check them out for yourself at some stage. [00:24:01] Speaker A: That's exactly what we're looking at. All right, but let me find this. Let me just find this behind the scenes one. [00:24:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, the behind the scenes one. [00:24:08] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I'm keen to know compilation. I'll just bring it up. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? [00:24:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:16] Speaker A: Can I do that? Yes. Without it playing the audio? [00:24:22] Speaker B: Yes. All right. [00:24:26] Speaker A: You see that? [00:24:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:29] Speaker A: If I do this, maybe. All right, here we go. Belinda Richards, the making of Cattitude. That's what that photo is called. Cattitude. That's cool. So taping the background to a softbox so that there's a strip left around the softbox to kind of provide a 360 degree rim light hairline behind the cat. And then the cat is in between that softbo piece of paper or card or whatever with the circle cut out for the frame. [00:25:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:12] Speaker A: And then there's also some flags to stop the light coming forward and then some reflectors at the front and things to provide light on the cat's face. I'm guessing there's more lighting in front of this as well. Yeah. And then. Yeah, just enticing the see, look cat's just running away. Trying to entice the cat to look through this sort of porthole window to get various opportunities at, you know, expressions and it's stepping through and pouring it at treats and things. So it's definitely a cat with cattitude, isn't it so floofy. [00:25:53] Speaker B: It is, it's a big floof. [00:25:58] Speaker A: But yeah, I love behind the scenes stuff like this. [00:26:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:01] Speaker A: People take the time to put it out. [00:26:04] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's such a simple. It's a simple concept. You know, it just takes a little bit of time. Bit of craft. [00:26:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I love that it's got a bit of craft about it as well. But it's not just like, hey, there's a $10,000 lighting setup. That's why we were able to shoot this. Obviously she's a wizard with lighting. And I'm sure it's great lighting as well, but it's just nice to see bits of cardboard and stuff cut out, things clamped together to make an image like this. [00:26:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:32] Speaker A: So and then, yeah, the print. And then I think it got that. So that print scored a 99. And some of the judges may even said it was a 100. [00:26:45] Speaker B: Wow. [00:26:47] Speaker A: So I think got two one hundreds, but overall average score was a 99. Which is better luck next time. What's that? [00:26:54] Speaker B: Better luck next time. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Try and get that elusive 100. Yeah. [00:26:59] Speaker B: Let the team down. [00:27:02] Speaker A: So, yeah, there's. Hey, I just. I was trying to find the one time that a cat was able to be in a photo and the only way they were able to do it was to collage like 25 photos together. [00:27:14] Speaker B: The one time. I don't know. [00:27:18] Speaker A: I'm just saying. Paul just mentioned here that he just voted for Adam Edwards image in the National Photographic Portrait Prize. That is a great thing to bring up. I think there is a way. I don't know how to vote for it, but there is a way to vote for. [00:27:37] Speaker B: Yeah. If you go to his beef up group His Facebook page. [00:27:42] Speaker A: Yeah, but what about people that. People that aren't beef up groupies. What if they go to Adam Edwards photography on Facebook? [00:27:50] Speaker B: Yes, it should be on there. Let's just. [00:27:55] Speaker A: I think that would be a great thing to do if anyone has the time. Go to Adam Edwards photography on Facebook. [00:28:02] Speaker B: Yep. [00:28:03] Speaker A: And you will see. [00:28:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:08] Speaker A: And Paul's saying it's on the NPP website as well. So jump on there and vote, please. Help Adam out. [00:28:18] Speaker B: Yeah, beautiful. Yeah, no doubt about it. It's just. And the story behind it, it's really quite powerful and moving. But yeah, go check it out, folks. Give it a vote. Let Adam know that you. You value his work. All right, so should we look at some of your pet images now, Justin? Do you think that [00:28:41] Speaker A: you want to start with mine? Do you? [00:28:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:28:43] Speaker A: Dogs versus cats. You want to? [00:28:45] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, Come on. [00:28:47] Speaker A: All right, let me see what I can do here. And where am I? There they are. No, there they are. So I actually had an accidental epiphany while bringing up some of these photos. Greg and I didn't talk about having cats versus dogs in our photos tonight just kind of happened, which is fun. But when I was going back, I don't have many photos of the new puppy, so I didn't want to do photos of my new puppy. So I had to go and find photos of my previous dog, Ted, which is always sad, but fun to look back through the old photos. And I was looking back through and I've taken so many photos of Ted. Tonnes on the phone, tons on all of my cameras, but there was quite a couple of sections where I took a lot of film photos. So all of these shots are shot on film either by myself or Yelena, because I'm in this one. And I had this epiphany while I was looking back through. There was a couple of sort of periods of time where I shot a chunk of film in a row. And one of them was, I think in like 2021 or 2022 or something when I bought. I can't remember what year it was, but I bought my whole family disposable cameras for Christmas. Everybody got one. That's cool. And so we had had heaps of them, had a waterproof one, had heaps of stuff kicking around. And I also had my film cameras as well, and I shot heaps. And so some of these are from that time period as well. And what I realized when I was looking through this stuff is film makes for better family memories, in my opinion, based on what I Saw today, they instantly look like memories. None of these are edited. This is why dogs are great, because they're with you all the time. And that's me taking photos of Ted with my film camera. That's Ted sleeping in the backyard. He's everywhere. Everywhere we went. He loves swimming. Do your cats like swimming? No, not so much. He loved shaking off mid swim. He didn't even get out first. He'd shake in there. He was a very special dog that liked to shake during mid swim to get extra water into his fur. Love being upside down. Big fan of being upside down. [00:31:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:35] Speaker A: He loved bringing joy to our neighbors. They always smiled when they got to pat the old boy. He made us smile outside. [00:31:45] Speaker B: Look how young you both look. [00:31:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:48] Speaker B: I mean, you and Yelena, not you and Ted. [00:31:50] Speaker A: Yeah. So this is a selfie on a disposable. A disposable film camera. [00:31:54] Speaker B: That's so cool. [00:31:55] Speaker A: He loved going boating. He loved being in the boat. Do your cats ever go boating? [00:32:02] Speaker B: No. No boating. [00:32:03] Speaker A: Okay. It's one point for the dogs, I think. Better in a boat situation [00:32:16] Speaker B: speaking. Dogs are better in boats than cats. [00:32:19] Speaker A: Yeah. He didn't love being showered, but I feel like he took it better than a cat would. You know, he is looking at me being like, when's this going to be done? But yeah, this is actually. I think I've said this before. So this is a shot on film. And this exact print is in our bathroom right next to the shower. And I can see it while I'm showering. And it's so funny. [00:32:42] Speaker B: It's very cute. [00:32:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:32:44] Speaker B: That reminds me of Yuki. Yuki. We couldn't keep Yuki if we went to the park. And there's a fountain in this park we used to take our Yuki to. He would be in that fountain, no matter how green or gross that water was. But the second he's. He gets a whiff that he's going to go in the shower at the end of the day, he. It just. Yeah, he just shuts down. Disappears. [00:33:07] Speaker A: It's like, I don't want to get wet. You're like, you were just in a green fountain. [00:33:10] Speaker B: I know. If you go. Go to the beach, he, like, you know, getting out of the water. Yep. [00:33:15] Speaker A: But yeah, it's different. More boating love to boat. Loved hanging out in the backyard while Yelena learned new things. [00:33:25] Speaker B: One wheel. Nice. [00:33:27] Speaker A: Loved. [00:33:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:28] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Still got that. Loved. Gently de. Stuffing a toy immediately after receiving it. And so that it was just like, empty. An empty sack. You know, he would just sit there and pick A hole in it, and then just pull each bit of stuffing out and then just be like, okay, done. You know, they're just. They're just fun. Dogs are just fun. You put things on their head, and they just look at you like you're an idiot. Lots of adventures with the dog. And that's why dogs are the best case. Okay, Closed. Is it? Well, I think so. I don't know. But let's talk a little bit about photography for a second there. As Rick Nelson says, I agree, film does feel more like a memory than digital. There's something about the colors, obviously, but there's something about the imperfections. Like, none of these are cropped, straightened. Some of them are out of focus. Some of them have motion blur that lots of the family shots that were mixed in with this stuff were also, like, much worse. You know, like. So this is. This is the creek outside of our house. And unfortunately, last couple of years, Ted wasn't able to jump over it. But for most of the time that we lived here, Ted was able to make this leap across the great divide of the Bendigo creek to get to the other side where the path is, because. Right outside of our house. So, yeah, this is. This is probably in the last year when he could still make the leap. Yelena took this photo of me and Ted jumping together across the. Across the path. [00:35:09] Speaker B: That's pretty cool. [00:35:10] Speaker A: But, yeah, there's something about it. And the other thing about film is it didn't take me long to look through years of images. It's naturally curated by the fact that you're limited to shots on a roll. Yeah, like, it would have taken way longer. Although you can search for dogs on an iPhone, but, you know, looking through iPhone photos, even filtering by dog, it's still take you a long time to just look through all the stuff. And whereas this just. I don't know, there's something. I'm definitely today inspired me to really get back into the habit of family memories and things like that. Is. Is film camera time. I'd be interested to know what everyone else thinks. [00:35:55] Speaker B: I think that's a lovely idea. And, you know, I agree these images have almost a. Almost like a softened, dreamlike quality. You know, there's this fine grain through them. The colors aren't overly saturated, and they're. Like you said, there's all these. This character that's caused by. You call them imperfections, but it was just, you know, it's. This sort of stuff is. It's beautiful, you know? Yeah. Okay. That you should have been A bit closer to the camera. You know, all of that sort of stuff can come into it. But it's just. That's just what the moment called for. And I love that about film. [00:36:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. So I was really. I don't know, I should have ended up calling this show film versus digital. But [00:36:38] Speaker B: anyway, [00:36:41] Speaker A: dogs, you can take them everywhere. They always love you. What's. You know, they just. They're the man's best friend and woman's best friend. Human's best friend. [00:36:53] Speaker B: Any gender? [00:36:54] Speaker A: Yeah, all of them. Anything, anywhere. Yeah, everyone's best friend. [00:36:59] Speaker B: Yep, yep. Yeah, they just. No, I do. I've got a dog. I've got. [00:37:05] Speaker A: I know. [00:37:06] Speaker B: For 18 years. [00:37:07] Speaker A: I know. But you've got a lot of cats. [00:37:10] Speaker B: Well, yeah, we've got a lot of cats now. You had more. We had seven for a while there. [00:37:18] Speaker A: That's intense. [00:37:19] Speaker B: Yeah, but we're down to four now. Four? Yeah, four. Had to check that for a second. I hadn't lost one. [00:37:27] Speaker A: It's in your beard. [00:37:28] Speaker B: Let's bring out some cat images. Come on. [00:37:30] Speaker A: Okay. [00:37:31] Speaker B: You want to bring them up for me? [00:37:33] Speaker A: Yep. [00:37:35] Speaker B: So we've had a few cats over the years and this one, this is Biscuit. And Biscuit and I had a very, very close bond. So we got Biscuit when she was less than a week old and we hand raised her so we to bottle feed her. Teacher toileting, the whole works and she was tiny. I. I've got a photo somewhere. I couldn't find it the other day. Today was. Sorry. When I was looking of her sitting inside a teacup. She was that small that she disappeared into a teacup. Yeah. [00:38:03] Speaker A: Really. [00:38:05] Speaker B: And you know, because I worked from home and was home a lot when, when we first had her, she. She was just always around me and she loved Yuki. So Yuki was our labradoodle. He passed two and a bit years ago. He was 18. And when she came into our home he decided that it was his responsibility to keep her safe and he did not leave her side. And. And you know, it's interesting, you get to know your animals and their characteristics and. And she, she adopted some characteristics that we only ever saw in Yuki. It's really funny, you know, the little, little insignificant things, but we saw them. [00:38:43] Speaker A: Would you say those characteristics made her a better pet? [00:38:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:38:48] Speaker A: So the characteristics of a dog that a cat took on made a better. A better pet. I think I might have just lawyered you. I think that's. [00:38:56] Speaker B: You might have just lawyered me. You might have. [00:38:59] Speaker A: No. [00:38:59] Speaker B: The defence rests. [00:39:00] Speaker A: Your Honor. [00:39:02] Speaker B: No, but it's true, you know, and what's really interesting is that the day that we made the decision that Yuki, you know, he was, he was ready to go. He was quite unwell and he just wanted to be around forever because he felt that this was his place and his, you know, we were his family and all that sort of stuff. Very caring dog. And the day that we, we organized for a vet to come to our home so that the whole family could be around when they euthanased him. And Biscuit just spent the whole time sitting next to him and rubbing herself against his body. And, you know, it was just this really quite a heartbreaking moment in that whole pro. In that whole horrible process of saying goodbye to Yuki. But she, she kind of stepped up and was there for him in his last days, like he'd been there for her in her first days. And it was a really. [00:39:54] Speaker A: You're gonna make me cry Greek stuff. [00:39:56] Speaker B: Yes. You got nothing smart assy to say about that now, do you? [00:39:58] Speaker A: No. [00:40:00] Speaker B: Put you back in place. Anyway, let's, let's move along. The people have seen enough of Biscuit. So this is my new kitten, Chihiro. So Biscuit hasn't passed. She's Biscuit. And Cass and Elfie, the three, three of our cats, they moved out with my adult kids a couple of months ago when they moved out. Yeah, yeah, she left with. Because technically Biscuit was my daughter's cat. [00:40:23] Speaker A: Oh, okay. [00:40:25] Speaker B: Anyway, that's going to make me cry. But so, yeah, now we have Chihiro and Susu and we still have Haru and Dulcie. So we're down to four cats now. And yeah, these are. I've just been obsessed with photographing these cats. Now these kittens again, because they're just fascinating to watch, I think. [00:40:46] Speaker A: Yeah, when they look, you get that eye contact. It's crazy. [00:40:49] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [00:40:50] Speaker A: Very sharp, glassy eyes too. [00:40:53] Speaker B: Yep, that's Haru. [00:40:59] Speaker A: Mysterious. Oh, look at that eye. [00:41:03] Speaker B: Yeah, [00:41:09] Speaker A: They're cute. They're definitely cute. [00:41:12] Speaker B: They are cute. They're adorable. Thank you. You know what's interesting about having pets and you know, we've always taken photos of the pets and mostly we use our smartphones for that, you know, because you've always got it on you. But with these kittens, because. And also the, the big difference between adopting one, you know, baby animal versus adopting two, I, you know, we've had heaps of cats. I had cats with Isabel when we were together before she passed. We had lots of cats, but we only ever got one Cat at a time. But when we got these two, when we got Chihiro and Susu, the dynamic is so much different, and it's just reawakened my desire to photograph these guys more. And so now I've taken to sort of having my. My good camera with me a lot, Even just around the house or when I'm working here at my desk. The window that some of those shots were taken in, that. That's right here. It's right in front of the other side of this computer. And. And so I just have my camera around all the time now. And I'm just always looking for those moments where they're. They're in good light or they're doing something cute or there's just, you know, a nice composition. And it's really, it's. It's kind of inspiring me to. To take great photos of them, so it's interesting. [00:42:32] Speaker A: There's some great photos in there. [00:42:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:35] Speaker A: And they are cute. [00:42:37] Speaker B: They are. [00:42:39] Speaker A: But I'm still on side dog. I'm sorry. [00:42:42] Speaker B: That's okay. That's okay. I get it. Did you ever have cats growing up, or was it purely dogs at your place? [00:42:49] Speaker A: No, we had cats and yeah, I've had. I've had a few cats, like. Yeah. In the house over the years. And I wouldn't be against having another cat, especially if it ate mice and kept the house free of rodents and whatnot. But I don't know, just dogs are just, you know, dogs, you throw them in the car and you take them away with you on the weekend and things like that. Whereas cats are sort of. They're stuck in the house. [00:43:17] Speaker B: They can be if you put. [00:43:18] Speaker A: If you put a cat on a. Lee, have you ever walked your cat on the streets of Melbourne? [00:43:24] Speaker B: No, I haven't, but my daughter Indy has with Biscuit. She hated it. And with one of the other cats just out the front here, up and down the street. But I remember when we traveled once, we're going out to Dalesford for a weekend, and someone had a blue Burmese. She was beautiful. And she was sitting outside the petrol station on a lead tied to, like, something while the owner was inside buying drinks and stuff. It was just the bizarrest thing. This cat was just sitting there looking at everyone like. Like it was a dog. [00:43:54] Speaker A: Yeah, that's bizarre. Like, behavior just behaving, just accepting that, like, oh, yeah, I just sit here. Whereas other cats would be like, get this. [00:44:01] Speaker B: Yeah, just run. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny, but I mean, putting aside the cats versus dog debate, I. I I will say that having pets in the home is a really, really great opportunity to work on your photography. You know, pets can prove to be really tricky subjects to photograph, and there's skill to be learned in that challenge, you know, and there's, you know, and. And I've been saying to a lot of my. What do we call them? Chromies? Homies, that have been doing my workshops that, you know, because everyone has sort of said, I wish I was more confident with my camera and settings and being able to quickly adapt settings. And my advice to them has always been, you know, when you're sitting at home watching telly at night, the end of the day, you should have your camera sitting on your lap. It should be in your hand while you're just idling watching telly, and you should be playing with. With the controls so you submit those muscle memories. But more importantly, start taking photos. If the room is dark, work out what your camera can deal with. You know, photograph the TV with a dark room around it. See what happens. Photograph your partner sitting on the other side of their chair and see how you can get that composition in low light or good light or whatever it may be. Look for pockets of light around your house. If you've got pets, it's just another great way to practice your craft with, you know, with an interesting subject, and you might develop, you know, a series of work out of it that you're really, really happy with, you know, and. And you'll be cementing those memories of time you had, you know, with family, pets and kids. You know, if you've got kids that play with the pets or grandkids, photograph that, you know, such a great candid dynamic, and it will certainly help you elevate your craft. [00:45:46] Speaker A: And then the other thing about dogs. Dogs. So for all pets, but dogs, specifically dogs. No, not only great to practice your photography with, great to stay. Stay active twice a day walks. It's good for you. You can't say no because they just. They look at you and you're like, yep, all right, it's either you take [00:46:05] Speaker B: me out, let's go on the rug. [00:46:07] Speaker A: Yep, exactly. So I can't tell you the amount of times that Elena and I stood out in the rain while Ted just sniffed. Sniffed around. [00:46:15] Speaker B: What is that about? [00:46:17] Speaker A: Just. Yeah, they love it. That's their thing. [00:46:19] Speaker B: Didn't want to shower. That was quite heavy sand in pouring rain. [00:46:22] Speaker A: That's their happy place. Just sniffing, just figuring out what's going on in the neighborhood. And we just stand there under an umbrella just Waiting. And no one else was out walking their dogs. We're like, are we the only ones that, you know, have a dog that wants to sniff in the rain? But anyway, yeah, I'm read a couple of comments before we get into a little bit of some of your images and then maybe some news and then some more your images and then some more news, something like that. I'll just read out just a few randomly suggest selected comments. No order. Really. Fermi says dogs win. Yeah, I agree. I think that's all. No, I'm kidding. I want to read this one out. The sad Chris Nielsen lost my 10 year old dog a few days. 10? Yeah, 10 year old dog a few days ago after a short illness. My camera roll has thousands of dog photos in it. Yeah. [00:47:08] Speaker B: No, I'm so sorry. [00:47:09] Speaker A: I'm sorry. [00:47:11] Speaker B: It really is. [00:47:12] Speaker A: It's the worst. [00:47:13] Speaker B: It's interesting though, isn't it? Because you and I have been talking about the, the grief of losing especially a dog that we've had for so long. You know, we had Yuki for 18 years. How long did you have, Ted? [00:47:23] Speaker A: 15. [00:47:24] Speaker B: Yeah, 15. That's a big chunk of your life. [00:47:27] Speaker A: Massive. So much changed in that time. [00:47:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, we, we got Yuki, Isabelle and I got Yuki, you know. [00:47:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:47:34] Speaker B: And. And then she passed and multiple new partners came into the house over the years. [00:47:41] Speaker A: I'm joking. [00:47:42] Speaker B: But, you know, like, and then he just accepted Sash. You know, he's. He's just taken. He took session and, and loved her deeply and, you know, just, it's. Yeah, I don't know. You can't, you can't replicate that in any other way. [00:47:54] Speaker A: Dogs are amazing. [00:47:56] Speaker B: They are. [00:47:57] Speaker A: Yeah, they are. A couple of other comments. Dennis Smith says, okay, that dog is not a dick. No, Ted. Ted was not a dick. Yeah, he was a big old boy. All right, who else, what else did we have on here? [00:48:15] Speaker B: And I love that you have a photo of Ted in your car in the van. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. We've still got like a little printed out photo of Ted with a camera around his neck just stuck in the van. So he goes. Goes with us wherever we're off to. Who else have we got here? Dennis also said, but that right there is why cats are so perfect. They're deeply spiritual animals. That's when we're talking about Biscuit being so, so loving. [00:48:43] Speaker B: Yep. [00:48:44] Speaker A: Greg Carrick had a gig taking photos for a cat adoption agency. And the cute images got the cats to be moved onto the homes real quick. Yeah, I think that's. That's awesome. That's something that more photographers should try and do. I don't know how easy it is to go to some of these places and say, hey, I'll take photos for you. I don't know if it's something that they're receptive to or not, but good photos make a big difference. And a lot of them are just phone photos, just sort of shot from, you know, whatever angle and not necessarily. I don't look like Greg's cat photos, that's for sure. And if they did, they would probably. Yeah, they'd probably get. Get adopted quicker. [00:49:26] Speaker B: Yeah, Maybe I should look into that. [00:49:28] Speaker A: Nathan's here. You should look into it. I wonder if there's one nearby. [00:49:32] Speaker B: Yeah, well, the Lost Dogs homes in North Melbourne, but RSPCA is not far. [00:49:38] Speaker A: Anyway, Nathan says. Evening. Not sure if Mark is here, but probably the best part about shooting school photos is when they bring in a dog with a bow tie on. Okay, we need to see a photo of that at some point. Send something in that sounds, what, like a school dog or something? That's crazy. [00:49:55] Speaker B: Like a service dog, maybe? [00:49:56] Speaker A: Yeah, but with a bow tie on. Felicity Johnson says, bit late, but I'm here. Justin, just photographing Russell Jack's tradition. I don't. Justin, just photographing Russell. I don't know what that means. Do you know what that means? [00:50:15] Speaker B: No. [00:50:19] Speaker A: Anyway, maybe I don't understand. Felicity. Justin, just photographing Russell Jack's traditional Chinese funeral for his family before the state funeral. You were. You were just photographing Russell Jack's traditional Chinese funeral for the family before the state funeral. [00:50:39] Speaker B: Was that in Bendigo? At the. [00:50:41] Speaker A: I'm guessing. [00:50:42] Speaker B: So what's that? Chinese garden and community space. Isn't there a museum there as well, in Bendigo? [00:50:51] Speaker A: Yeah, there is. I'm just trying to figure out. Anyway. Translate. Forest. Felicity. [00:50:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:57] Speaker A: Okay. Yes, Here we go. He's the famous guy from Bendigo who started the Chinese Museum. Okay, cool. [00:51:03] Speaker B: Nice. [00:51:04] Speaker A: Cool. Very cool. [00:51:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:07] Speaker A: All right. Should we do some images? [00:51:10] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do a few images and then we'll scrape through the news. Not a lot going on in the news. Yeah, but let's look at some images. Where do we want to start? Probably the top of the list. That would make it easier. [00:51:21] Speaker A: You tell me a name, I'll bring the photo of Peter Kinsington. [00:51:24] Speaker B: One image. Hats off to Peter. He only recently joined our community after we met him at the Leica event. But he has been sending in photos every single week, and he often sends me extras saying, up to you. If you show this One, but this is something I did with a, you know, some Leica scientific camera and lens equipment. [00:51:46] Speaker A: Oh, I think I found it. It's not named his name, is it? Oh, there it is. Got it. No, no, all good. Got it. Here we go. [00:51:54] Speaker B: Okay. Hi, Justin and Greg. Liked your recent podcast on the African safari. Renewed my interest in going to Okavango Delta in Botswana for the amazing wildlife. [00:52:05] Speaker A: That sounds cool. Do it. Oops. [00:52:09] Speaker B: You're really new at this, aren't you? I have attached an image for your podcast. Fluorescing colonial anemones. Anemones. How do you say that? Anemones. Anemones. [00:52:21] Speaker A: Anemones. [00:52:22] Speaker B: Anemones. Subjects is about 10cm across. Excited by blue light, the anemones fluoresced other colors. The blue excitation light was removed with a light yellow blocking filter. Focus stacked image 100 individual exposures at f 5.6 at 1 second each. That's crazy. Olympus om d em 1 mark II 60 mm 2.8 Macro Gold Award in AIPP Print Awards. [00:52:52] Speaker A: Wow. Cool. Well, I can. I can see why. [00:52:57] Speaker B: Can we zoom in on a section, Jay? [00:52:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:59] Speaker B: Let me see. [00:53:00] Speaker A: It'll probably skip forward nine images, but let's see what happens. That's as much. That's the site, the size of the image that we've got. So that's as far in as we can really go. [00:53:09] Speaker B: That's incredible. That's 100 images stacked. That's amazing. [00:53:16] Speaker A: The color is beautiful. I'd love to see it in print. [00:53:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. Nice. [00:53:26] Speaker A: Yeah, that. [00:53:27] Speaker B: Well done, Peter. [00:53:29] Speaker A: I love the shape, too. It almost looks like a country or something. [00:53:32] Speaker B: Yeah, it's. It's like. At first glance, it's kind of. What is that? Is it a bunch of flowers? Is it. [00:53:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Is it a really bright quilt? [00:53:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Or a drone shot, you know, like it's. Yeah. Definitely worth printing. Wow. [00:53:50] Speaker A: What a shot. To start the show. [00:53:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:53] Speaker A: Who's that banger? [00:53:55] Speaker B: Print it. Crackers. Greg Carrick has sent in an image. Here we go. It's been such bad weather for Astro, I was in danger of doing jigsaw puzzles. Oh, don't ever let that happen. While wrapped in a knitted shawl and sipping bad sherry in front of a bar heater. Gosh, you paint a picture. To save my sanity, I thought I'd experiment with some abstract macro. I used a print of an aurora as a backdrop in my lightbox and position a glass vase in front. Wow, that is so clever. Talk about abstract. This was shot with the Fujifilm XT2 with a 60 mil macro shutter speed. 1,500F 2.4, ISO 400. [00:54:46] Speaker A: Yeah, the tones are really nice. And the way it sort of waves through and changes the line changes with the shape of the glass, and it [00:54:55] Speaker B: changes the color a bit, too. That's great, Crackers. [00:55:00] Speaker A: Yeah. Great idea, too, for keeping yourself occupied wanting to play with your camera when you can't get out in the weather. [00:55:06] Speaker B: Yep. Very cool. Up next, David Mascaro. I'll print it. Crackers. Printed. [00:55:15] Speaker A: Printed. [00:55:16] Speaker B: David Mascara. Single image. Hi, guys. This was probably one of the very first street portraits I did back in 2018. I've never really had a problem talking with someone then photographing them, but this is when I started taking it more serious. This is Bao Bao. I met him one Sunday morning when going to work. I spoke to him many times before taking his image. He was always in the same doorway, and then one day, that doorway had a gate installed, and that was the last I saw of him. Sweet, man. I believe this was the Nikon D3. And as always, have a great show. [00:55:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Beautiful eye contact. Yeah, there's. There's like a. There's a tension there. [00:56:02] Speaker B: Y. [00:56:02] Speaker A: You know, as in, I don't know, friendly, not friendly kind of gaze. It could go either way. [00:56:11] Speaker B: Yeah, depend. [00:56:12] Speaker A: Depending on the context. You know what I mean? [00:56:15] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah, it's wonderful. And just the way he chooses to frame these shots, it's fascinating. Every week we see it, and there's always something a little bit different, but it always works. [00:56:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like the. Like cropping the beanie. Can't see much of context at all. Yeah, the beanies. Like, even just the fact that the. It's almost mirrored with the shirt color line in terms of the crops and the shape, and then the. The face sort of a. Yeah, it's. [00:56:52] Speaker B: Yeah, because. [00:56:53] Speaker A: Because you could easily have just shot that a little bit wider. Yeah. Include context around the head, shoulders and things, but now all of that's a mystery. [00:57:03] Speaker B: Yep. [00:57:08] Speaker A: Rick Nelson. I can feel the guy's expression, though. [00:57:12] Speaker B: Yeah, you can. And that gaze is. [00:57:18] Speaker A: Tweet production says that face has seen so much. [00:57:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:23] Speaker A: Lovely eyes, Dennis. [00:57:29] Speaker B: Beautiful work. Thank you, David, as always. Let's knock a couple more out of the park, and then we'll. We'll take a look at some news. Hey? [00:57:40] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:41] Speaker B: All right. And I think Nathan just emailed you a photo. [00:57:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw that. I'll have a. I'll have a look for it in a second. [00:57:48] Speaker B: Coming up next, we have John Hall. Single image. Evening, all. North Sydney Pool was finally reopened Last week, after a fairly disastrous five year renovation, I took this shot one evening about a week before it opened. Nikon Z6 III, the 24 to 120 F4 at 120 half a second. F11, ISO 180 with a 18 black mist filter. There's that black mist again. Cheers, John. Thanks, John. [00:58:19] Speaker A: Great straight lines. [00:58:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Great frame layering. [00:58:23] Speaker A: I'm like, it's symmetrical, but not because nothing about the building is quite symmetrical, but it is. It's weird. It's. It's, yeah, really well done. Yeah, I'm, I'm even like, I'm looking at the bricks either side of the. The pillars at the back and it's almost spot on even. But then when you look at like the lines and the ceiling and things like that, because of the way this building's been built, nothing's. There's. Nothing's even. Yeah, you know, the fence posts aren't even with the building posts or anything like that. I love it. [00:59:00] Speaker B: Well, it just creates this tension, doesn't it? The bottom half of the frame feels disjointed from the top half, but they, they work together to balance one another. Yeah, you know, you've got, you've got strong vertical elements in the top half of the frame. You've got really strong horizontal elements in the bottom and it creates this conflict. But it does work. [00:59:18] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It does. It definitely does work. And then, yeah, obviously the strong blue and white and then up the top you just got this sort of warm. Yeah, warm white tile and then the sort of parents with a child in the middle there. The only thing I would love, if it wasn't there, but it was. There's nothing you can do about it, is that exit sign. At least it's not an exit sign, but it's still, still right there. But that's buildings. You don't really get a choice. The amount of exit signs are removed in wedding photos, but I don't think. I don't know if I'd remove it from this because then once you start, do you remove the light switch? Do you remove. Yeah, it's like this is the scene. This is what it is. [01:00:02] Speaker B: Yep. Sort of the eyesore. [01:00:04] Speaker A: Yep. [01:00:07] Speaker B: Wonderful, John. Thank you. Up next for the first leg of images is the one and only Dennis Smith, who had a cracking weekend again working in the. Oh, you're gonna have to correct me on this, Dan. I don't have the email in front of me, but he was working on the. The Sala event in South Australia. The Arts festival had a massive weekend there again. And he sent through us another image. He's going old school. Tonight on an epic 7 day 8 country lap of the Alps. We stopped at Gosal Lake in Austria on a super clear moonlit night. And this is about 1am mind bending wonky orb canon 5D mark II. 50mil plastic fantastic and a 7 minute exposure. Yep, that was a long way down there. Check out the star trails. You would not think that was 1:00am how's that? [01:01:10] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like daylight. How's the reflection in the water? [01:01:13] Speaker B: I know. [01:01:14] Speaker A: At night? Yeah, the sa. [01:01:16] Speaker B: What the hell? That's insane. I've never seen anyone do that with nighttime images like that. No, not where you would swear to God it was day. [01:01:31] Speaker A: Yeah, just like a sort of a soft, dim day. Yeah, it's bizarre. [01:01:40] Speaker B: James is zooming in on the stars. Can we zoom in on the stars a little bit? And the orb? I want to check out the wonky orb. [01:01:45] Speaker A: Yeah, let's see, let's see. What? Enhance. Oh, yes. I love it. Look at that. So there's our orb. Can. If you squint really hard, you can almost see Dennis in there just swinging his arms around like a madman. [01:02:02] Speaker B: Yeah, howling. Some say. [01:02:04] Speaker A: Some say he's still out there swinging. If you're really quiet, you might even hear it. Yeah. Look at these star trails. [01:02:12] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [01:02:16] Speaker A: Oh, is that it? Can't tell. Is that a hot pixel? [01:02:21] Speaker B: No, [01:02:23] Speaker A: never see hot pixels. Cause I never do long enough exposures to stress my sensors out. Wow, that's so awesome. The reflection's crazy. Oh, Greg Carrot can see a face in the rocks in the background. [01:02:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Greg's had too much coffee and it's too late. [01:02:57] Speaker A: Okay, let's see. Awesome. Dennis says, Paul, Lucinda says that plastic lens is like a cockroach. Yeah, it's. [01:03:05] Speaker B: You can't kill it. [01:03:06] Speaker A: It works forever. [01:03:07] Speaker B: Just. [01:03:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Bulletproof tweak. Production says that's wild. Taking the. Taking the catchphrase right out of Dennis's mouth. Phil Thompson's brilliant. Dennis night into day. Even love the lighting on the surrounding trees near the orb. Yeah, it is incredible. So you can see the face too? Am I. What face are they seeing? [01:03:31] Speaker B: Where. Where was the face? [01:03:34] Speaker A: Is it. Is it this? Like a sort of a melty looking face here? [01:03:42] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:03:44] Speaker A: Has to be this area, right? Like. [01:03:52] Speaker B: I can't say. [01:03:53] Speaker A: Wow. Dennis says Red Bull flew us up to Austria for a TV interview, then gave us a camper and sent us on our way. Man, you lived a life you are a rock star, Dennis. Well, you still are a rock star, but you are a Red Bull rock star. That's something else. [01:04:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:09] Speaker A: Epic, [01:04:11] Speaker B: incredible work. [01:04:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Should we do one more? [01:04:18] Speaker B: Let's bring up Maya Hall's photo. [01:04:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:25] Speaker B: From Maya. I gravitated to a traveling fairground in Newcastle to test the filter to discover they were packing up, sitting in the gutter. Cueing my shot, a car pulled up. If you want to take a photo of something really nice, why don't you take a photo of my wheels? John later described the wheels as a shitbox. Not a lot of action in Newcastle on a Sunday night. Constantly amazed at the interactions I have. Putting a camera in front of my face. By the way, I love the filter. What filter are we talking about? The black mist. Might be the black mist again because we talked about it last week. [01:05:00] Speaker A: Yep. [01:05:01] Speaker B: And I found my black mist filter. So I'm going to try and put it to use this week. Cultural reference. The Newcastle song. Bob Hudson, 1974. Don't you ever let a chance go by? Most viewers are too young to remember settings. This was shot with the Nikon Z3 Z6. Sorry, Mach 3.44mil. Nickel Zed 24 to 120. Shot at 44F4.1 8 of a second and a 18 black mist filter. [01:05:32] Speaker A: So it's a sad looking, you know, merry go round thing. [01:05:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:05:39] Speaker A: Just with. With it more just dangling there in that. [01:05:42] Speaker B: As I said too. He said, I love that the chairs are just sitting there. That's really cool. [01:05:46] Speaker A: Yeah, just like a. I don't know, it's kind of like a mushroom out of Stranger Things or something just with little dangly bits hanging off it. Even though it's. Even though it's made of metal. [01:06:05] Speaker B: And Maya, you'll be glad to know that Phil Thompson remembers that song. He's just as old. [01:06:12] Speaker A: Sure. Surely Greg Carrick does too. Probably plays it on his radio show. [01:06:17] Speaker B: He probably does. Yeah. I found my blackface filter. I want to head out and head out at night sometime. Maybe go to Chinatown. Yeah. [01:06:28] Speaker A: Oh, good idea. [01:06:30] Speaker B: Restaurants and signs and lanterns and stuff. I was there on Saturday casing it out, some good stuff. [01:06:37] Speaker A: So, yeah, I should take my, my, what have I got that cinema film stuff that everyone, all the cool kids use. [01:06:46] Speaker B: Oh, the cine still. [01:06:48] Speaker A: My, my. Yeah. 800T. [01:06:51] Speaker B: Yes. [01:06:51] Speaker A: I've taken one frame with it. I should take that to Chinatown. Try that. [01:06:57] Speaker B: You know, I like for a low, low fee. I'll give you a discount. I can take you on a photo Walk through Chinatown. [01:07:04] Speaker A: I should book under a pseudonym. You should. And rock up and you'll be like a. [01:07:09] Speaker B: What, you brought your dog? [01:07:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:07:13] Speaker B: Stupid dog. [01:07:19] Speaker A: All right. [01:07:20] Speaker B: That's a lovely shot by the way. My. It's. [01:07:23] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it is very. [01:07:26] Speaker B: I want Moon to come back. [01:07:28] Speaker A: Those sort of scenes are just beautiful to get the chance to photograph them. It seems like it's harder and harder to find stuff like that now. I don't know, like in Australia where I live in Bendigo, it's like it's never. I don't know, it's nothing interesting going on, but I've got. I'm sure someone else would come from out of town to Bendigo and be like, oh, that's interesting. I just don't see it anymore. [01:07:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:07:52] Speaker A: Could go out and about. What about some news? Tell me what's been happening. [01:07:58] Speaker B: All right. Well, not a lot going on in the news. Bit quiet which is interesting. A couple of lens announcements from some of these cheaper third party brands. So seven artisans are releasing an AF autofocus lens, 18 mil f2, I believe it's coming to Fuji. And Sony APS C and M are also releasing an AF, but a 25 1.7. Wasn't sure on the lens mounts there, but I believe it is also coming to Fuji, maybe Nikon Z. Yeah, we're getting, we're getting lots and lots of lenses still from these third party companies and I look some of these up and they're like 2, 300 bucks. You know, even if you just wanted to experiment with that focal distance. [01:08:45] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:08:45] Speaker B: You know, you could grab a cheap lens, play with it for six months, sell it, get something better, you know, [01:08:50] Speaker A: especially for the price that you could get. So if you're talking APS C, which there seems to be a lot in that range, you know, if you're talking. Yeah. An APS C E mount secondhand camera or an X series second hand camera, you know, you could pick something up that's pretty, pretty decent and then get a few $300 lenses and you're off to the races. [01:09:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. In camera news, Sony, the shipments, the shipments could be delayed for the FX5 due to some quality control issues that they've discovered. I don't know where the quality control issues fall, but yeah, there may be a delay depending. Keep an eye on it. We'll let you know if there's any [01:09:40] Speaker A: wonder what the quality control issues are. [01:09:43] Speaker B: Interesting. Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? [01:09:45] Speaker A: Could be, could be from all sorts of stuff that could be a Rumor as well. It could be from they had that earthquake over there that affected some sensor manufacturing, all sorts of stuff, I guess. And also often stuff gets delayed just for no reason. [01:10:02] Speaker B: Yep. And you know, there's been a war, there's been issues with shipping, there's been, you know, rising petrol prices, all that sort of stuff that all plays into it because it all costs camera company's money to send stuff around the world. And when there's a crisis, you know, sometimes they might want to hold off and wait and see how things turn out. [01:10:22] Speaker A: Yeah. Dennis says my bank account is very happy about that news. You can hold off just for a couple more months. [01:10:31] Speaker B: Yep. First time I've seen this rumor. I only saw it this morning, but there is a rumor that on September 9th there is a new OM camera arriving on the market. [01:10:45] Speaker A: Interesting. [01:10:46] Speaker B: The first OEM in a little while. [01:10:49] Speaker A: Wonder if it'll have a new sensor or. Same. Same, same, yeah. [01:10:55] Speaker B: Not sure if it's micro four thirds, but speaking of micro four thirds, the Insta360 CEO has confirmed that Insta360 is developing two new micro four thirds or two new mirrorless cameras. It's assumed that they're micro four thirds, but it hasn't been verified. [01:11:12] Speaker A: Hang on, I hadn't seen this. I hadn't seen this. I need to see the wording that they put in. This article confirms the development of two new. Right. [01:11:27] Speaker B: Let me read this out for the mirrorless camera that has been rumored to be on the market on social media, they explicitly stated that development is currently underway. Moreover, they're developing two models with completely different characteristics. One of them will have a shape that you have never thought of before. And it may be a camera that will change the way people take pictures with cameras, which has traditionally involved framing, focusing and pressing the shutter button. They said that we may be able to show a prototype at CP plus in 2027. That's the Yokohama show. It's usually in February. Suggesting that the camera industry will be much more interesting next year. [01:12:03] Speaker A: Well, I did say it would be nice to see a camera brand have a swing at some different ergonomics and usability features. It was Insta360 that released the Luna that has a detachable screen, which becomes a remote and microphone for, you know, a pocket vlogging camera. But it's like what happens when you take that same mindset to a mirrorless camera. What. What could you change that people haven't thought of before? Because we're so stuck in the traditional ergonomics of a camera, which aren't bad, by the way. I'm not saying they, they need to change. It would just be nice to see people try something different. [01:12:42] Speaker B: It would be interesting to see if they brought out a vertical orientation camera. So you hold it and the vertical is the natural photograph positions. [01:12:53] Speaker A: No, no, no. [01:12:54] Speaker B: Spew. [01:12:55] Speaker A: No, no. [01:12:55] Speaker B: You don't think that'll work. You love vertical. You love vertical format. Please. [01:12:59] Speaker A: No. And bring the sound effects back for that one. We did, we did. We did not need a vertical. I know some people like shooting vertical. I was just trying to think, I wonder what, like, what could they possibly mean by a shape you haven't thought of before? And a camera will change the way people take pictures, which traditionally involved framing, focusing and pressing the shutter button. Now I guess you'll just, I don't know, say camera, take photo and it just does it automatically or something because. [01:13:33] Speaker B: No, you know what I think it is? I think the camera will be in the shape of a pirate's parrot and you'll. It'll perch on your shoulder and its eyes will be. The lenses be like a360 so I on each side and, and that is, you know, no one's ever taken a photo like that before. So that's a new way of doing it, you know, could be that. So I'm voting for the parrot. [01:13:59] Speaker A: Dennis Smith says it'll be a round camera. Okay. Like just a ball. You just hold a ball in your hand and just. [01:14:10] Speaker B: Yep, just like that. [01:14:12] Speaker A: Maybe more glasses. I don't think so. I think they really are. They're looking at cameras. Like, let me bring this, let me bring this up. They're looking at. There's been rumors for a long time about them developing an actual camera. [01:14:30] Speaker B: Camera, camera. [01:14:31] Speaker A: And these sort of. These photos have popped up that just look like pretty average looking mirrorless cameras. So it's like, what, what could, where could it go from there? Where it's some sort of. I mean, they make the lunar already. Oh, this website's terrible. They already make the Luna, which is the, the gimbaly type thing. They make 360 cameras. They make the anti gravity drone. They make all sorts of weird and wacky electronic gadgets. So what could they do? Oh, round image, you think, Dennis? I mean, they make 360 cameras, but I don't think there'd be a big market for round images. Doozle Dumbler says Sigma already had a crack at a different camera with the bf. They did, but that wasn't really that different. That was just. I would Call that a traditional camera with a very minimalist design. Yeah, aesthetic. But there was nothing really different about the way that you interface with it other than it had next to no buttons and probably poor ergonomics. But with a really great look, you know, like really. Yes, looked amazing, really slick. But I don't think they did anything groundbreaking in terms of how you interface with the camera. You hold it with your right hand, you put the other one up there and you pull it up and you clickety click. Dunno. [01:16:01] Speaker B: Yep. [01:16:01] Speaker A: What will they do? [01:16:04] Speaker B: Wait and see. There is an image I want to show you. Final bit of news, I think. Yeah. Inside Red Bull's high flying eclipse photo. So obviously last week there was a total solar eclipse for some of our northern hemisphere friends. And the team at Red Bull took this rare, rare opportunity to set up a pretty remarkable project for the eclipse. And so that is a wingsuit person. It's not a plane, it's a person in one of those wingsuits flying across the eclipse obviously. And I think there's some behind the scenes shots as well. [01:16:48] Speaker A: Let me have a look. [01:16:49] Speaker B: Some of the photos coming from that eclipse is just bananas. [01:16:53] Speaker A: Trying to time that. [01:16:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:58] Speaker A: The photograph shows Bruh racing, racing through the glowing ring of totality at roughly 150 miles an hour. Like. Like how. [01:17:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:11] Speaker A: How difficult? [01:17:13] Speaker B: Well, I think it was, the bit I read about it was that the photographer, I think the, you know, the director of photography was saying that the tricky thing is, is that it's going. We can't see this guy because the sky just goes completely black and we can't see this, this guy cutting through the air. We have to, you know, use comms and, and timing and, and they've only got, you know, a matter of seconds really to get this shot right. [01:17:38] Speaker A: A few important notes from the article that Greg hasn't mentioned yet. The name of the photographer, Noah Wetzel. Air Force Red Bull athlete Mike Brewer. They spent nine months preparing to photograph this and the final image was captured on the Canon EOS R5 Mark 2. That's right. On a Canon EOS R5 Mark II. The only Canon camera capable of getting this shot. [01:18:07] Speaker B: Yeah, apparently so. [01:18:09] Speaker A: 600 mil lens from nearly half a mile away. There was remotely triggered flashes and the calculations left almost no room for error. To capture a once in a lifetime moment. It's pretty nuts. [01:18:21] Speaker B: Yeah, it's very nice. [01:18:25] Speaker A: They used picture that would go docs. I'm sure they'll probably profoto or something fancy. Yeah, yeah. Pretty amazing. Hey, it's cool that people do. It's cool that Red Bull do stuff like this. Like that's money. Going into a major photography project, obviously they would have made media around it, videos, all sorts of stuff. But yeah, essentially this is a photo and obviously an athletic endeavor. Stunt. But that's still a big commitment to a photo. [01:18:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:58] Speaker A: From a soft, massive company. Yes. Company. Poison company. [01:19:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:04] Speaker A: Hey, I'll take that. [01:19:04] Speaker B: But yeah, they often get involved in these projects and, And I think it's great because often the results that come out of these Red Bull. I mean, Chris Benny's work with Red Bull, you know, they. They drove a. A Red Bull F1 and a stunt plane up the great ocean road. You know, that must have cost an absolute fortune to do. Yeah, but they're really invested in this, in this sort of the, you know, the photography and videography of extreme sports and, and extreme moments in life. I think it's really cool. I love it because they're documenting like the extremes of human endeavor, aren't they? [01:19:41] Speaker A: They really have built their entire company around poisoning people and people pushing the limits of what's possible with the human body and machines and. [01:19:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:55] Speaker A: And the spectacle. [01:19:56] Speaker B: But what's interesting is we don't tend to blur. We don't blur that line between pause and creativity. Like we almost see them as two separate brands. You know, when I think about Red Bull, the media, what we know, I think about the media stuff. I think about these sorts of photos and these projects and Yeah, I don't think about the poison that they're feeding our children. [01:20:18] Speaker A: Hey. I mean, get away with it. I don't think Red Bull shouldn't exist. Don't get me wrong. Just drink responsibly. Once when I was a kid, I had nine energy drinks one night. When I was a young whippersnapper, we thought it would be funny to drink lots of them. I thought I was gonna have a heart attack. [01:20:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:39] Speaker A: I could feel my heartbeat in my head and it was fast and I was like, I don't feel right. I could feel it in my eyes now. [01:20:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I remember that when I was in uni, having no dose and buying coffee, going to set 11 and buying coffee and might have been Red Bull. It was a really early energy drink. There's a very long time ago. But yeah. Yeah, you just start feeling weird things in weird places. [01:21:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Dennis says Red Bull, they were amazing to me. Bloody light painting. Who would have thought? Yeah, that's what, that's what's cool. It's like they'll. They'll pop up and do stuff like. I remember I used to be into this sport called wake skating. It was skateboarding on water. Very niche, very niche. And Red Bull did this whole project where they were going around the country and they made this amazing video of guys wake skating on a cranberry bog. Do you know what a cranberry bog is? [01:21:39] Speaker B: No. [01:21:41] Speaker A: So it's that they, when they harvest cranberries, they flood the paddock that they're in to maybe say 30 centimeters of water or something like that. They go through and harvest them and so it doesn't damage them. And because they float, they float to the top of the water. And so they'll do that and it. Okay, look, we're here now. I have to show you. [01:22:10] Speaker B: We're going deep, people. We're going very deep. [01:22:12] Speaker A: This is why it's. It's our podcast. We do. We can, we can bring up cranberry bog wake skating if we want. Here we go. Oh, heck yeah. Let me just bring this up. I wonder if anyone else knows that this is how cranberries are farmed. So I'll skip through a bit, otherwise they'll probably get in a lot of trouble. [01:22:43] Speaker B: But [01:22:47] Speaker A: I'm sure Red Bull are great on the old copyrights on YouTubes. So they get these machines, these cranberry bog machine y things. And so that's it. Before the cranberries have come up and see them popping up as he drives through and they float to the surface. So he's harvesting them from the bottom of these bogs and then they float up. [01:23:13] Speaker B: So cool. [01:23:14] Speaker A: And then it. And it slowly fills up and then they gather them up like this from the top of the surface. But it's this rich like maroney red color and such a amazing, like type of farming. So that's them under the water and then. Yeah, because they float. [01:23:35] Speaker B: Wow. [01:23:36] Speaker A: Now what Red Bull did was arrange for Brian Grub, a wake skater and Red Bull athlete. Let's find. And another guy, Ben Horan, to. This is really great to watch the actual video to get the, the, the way they've put it together. But we can't play more than seven seconds or Red Bull sack us. But when you take a wake skate and you put it on top of the cranberry bog, you get this explosion of color and shapes. [01:24:09] Speaker B: Because how is that propelled, though? [01:24:12] Speaker A: He's getting towed by a winch with a big long rope. I used to have one. So instead of a boat. [01:24:16] Speaker B: Of course you did. [01:24:17] Speaker A: You have like a 200 meter rope and it just reels it in at about 35Ks an hour. Wow. So, yeah, it's carving it out. Yeah. And just that, like. So Red Bull just would fund things like this. Ideas that I guess people would pitch them on. [01:24:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:40] Speaker A: That are like a half. They're half an athletic thing and they're half an artistic thing. Because some videographer probably, like, along with the athletes, had to come up with this, you know, this idea. [01:24:53] Speaker B: Yep. [01:24:54] Speaker A: It's just. Yeah. I don't know. So they do a lot of cool stuff. I'm sure they do a lot of evil stuff, too. No idea. [01:25:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:25:03] Speaker A: Anyway, we should probably get back to the show. [01:25:05] Speaker B: All right. [01:25:05] Speaker A: Anyway. Cranberries. [01:25:07] Speaker B: Cranberries. There you go, folks. Heard it here first. [01:25:11] Speaker A: That's how you farm a cranberry and [01:25:15] Speaker B: then skate on it. [01:25:16] Speaker A: And then wake skate on it. Exactly. It's amazing. [01:25:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Indeed. [01:25:22] Speaker A: Do we go back to some images? Is that what we're doing? [01:25:24] Speaker B: Yeah, let's go back to some images. Got a. We still got a few to get through. [01:25:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:27] Speaker B: Because folks have been sending in quality. We're off to Paul. [01:25:35] Speaker A: Paul. [01:25:35] Speaker B: Paul. C1 image. [01:25:39] Speaker A: Let me bring it up. [01:25:41] Speaker B: G', day, guys. Just a quick iPhone edit from the weekend up at the Gold Coast Air Show. When thousands of people are all taking photos of the same thing at the same time, it can be a challenge to find something different. This is my take on an F35 Lightning doing its display. No shortage of detail with this lens. So I can confirm all blurry. All blurry shots are 100. Operator error. Cheers, Paul. This is shot with the R5.100. And the R. Sorry, the R5 with the 100 to 500. At 500 mil, F8, ISO 640 and 1-3200th of a second. [01:26:20] Speaker A: Very nice. Great lens. Great lens. I hope I can get to something like this one day to take some photos with my 100 to 500. That'd be fun. [01:26:30] Speaker B: Yeah. When's the Avalon Air show coming back? I don't know. Is that still a thing? [01:26:37] Speaker A: I have no idea. I'll look into it. I'll look into it for the future. [01:26:41] Speaker B: All right. But, yeah, love it. [01:26:43] Speaker A: There's so much detail in there to get up close to something that's moving so quick. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Cinder says next year. [01:26:54] Speaker B: Oh, thanks. Okay. Something to work towards maybe. Yeah, maybe we do 500 off Tamron again. [01:27:02] Speaker A: Yeah, we could do a. We could do a Camera Life meetup at the air show. [01:27:06] Speaker B: Oh, next year for all you long runs. [01:27:09] Speaker A: Crazies in the in the audience that are in Victoria, we'll see. Apparently it's every two years, which is biannual, unless that's also six monthly and there's no way of knowing. [01:27:26] Speaker B: Have you ever been to one before, Joe? [01:27:28] Speaker A: The air show? When I was younger once. Yeah. [01:27:32] Speaker B: I went to one in my 20s with a friend and we had film cameras back then. We went and borrowed a bunch of gear from the school. [01:27:39] Speaker A: That'd be fun. [01:27:40] Speaker B: Camera library. Yeah, it was fun. It was good. And because my friend's dad, he worked for some engineering company that made a. Made a aircraft part, so he had all these really cool passes and so we had like press passes. We had access to the VIP tent. We're just these pair of 21 year olds, you know, thinking we were hot. [01:28:02] Speaker A: You were hot. Yeah. [01:28:05] Speaker B: Yeah, we did. Yeah, that's true. It's funny though, [01:28:09] Speaker A: David Skinner says the vertical tails on that are made in Moorabbin. Is that true? [01:28:17] Speaker B: Some parts made around Australia. [01:28:20] Speaker A: Wow. [01:28:23] Speaker B: Well, they used to make the. The Hornets, the FA18s over in. Or at least parts of them in Melbourne, out near Port Westgate. [01:28:32] Speaker A: Really? [01:28:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, they did. I don't know if that facility is still there, but they used to, used to be. There used to be a big aerospace company. [01:28:41] Speaker A: Wow. Oh, David's gonna work there. Well, he would know. [01:28:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:49] Speaker A: That's very cool. Tweak says it was my first time at the Gold Coast Air show last year. This year had a blast. [01:28:57] Speaker B: Nice early next year. [01:29:01] Speaker A: Yeah. 28 23rd to 28th of February 27th is the Avalon Air Show. [01:29:08] Speaker B: Well, if we're not going to Japan for CP plus, we should definitely go to Avalon. [01:29:12] Speaker A: It's one or the other. Avalon's the consolation prize. We're not going to Japan. [01:29:21] Speaker B: Oh, dear. Who we got next? We have Phil Thompson. My image. Yes, you got it. [01:29:30] Speaker A: There it is. [01:29:31] Speaker B: Hey, Justin. Greg touches my image for tonight's podcast. Something a bit different. A bird's eye view of the Minya M I N Y A. I haven't been out with the drone for a long time. So Saturday I headed to the Minya Winery near Torquay, as I have permission to go on pretty much anytime I wish. Is that. Is that because you buy so much wine? Is that a terrible question to ask? Sorry. With the rain that we had here earlier in the week, it filled up Thompson's Creek and the billabong on the winery, even flooding the little bridge across the accommodation on the island. The creek snakes are. The creek snakes its way through to the ocean, entering between Breemley and Point Impossible Surf beach which is at the top of the image. [01:30:17] Speaker A: Oh wow. The breakup there. Right up, right up. [01:30:20] Speaker B: See you've done it again. [01:30:22] Speaker A: Is doing weird stuff. You can see it right there. [01:30:27] Speaker B: Touch anything. As always, thanks for all the show. All that the show is and this platform for us photographers. DJI Mini 3 Pro in terms of settings, 1/80 of a second shutter speed, aperture f 1.7 with an ND filter, ISO 100. Excuse me. Oh, there's the yawn. Nine o' clock on the dot. [01:30:49] Speaker A: Starts yawning every time. I didn't know this sort of waterway was down there. I love this. [01:31:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:00] Speaker A: Learning so much. [01:31:04] Speaker B: And you can see all these little pockets of water traveling up towards the horizon because it just. It got pounded with grain. [01:31:12] Speaker A: Yeah. You got tons of. Everything's just saturated. And you can see how that Bridgets. Yes. Tons of detail. Great little drone. Does great work. [01:31:20] Speaker B: Yeah it doesn't it. [01:31:21] Speaker A: Sometimes it's. This is something that gets lost a little bit in the world of. I don't know what you would call it, artistic photography or whatever is that sometimes photos are just amazing to document something that doesn't happen that often that we might want to look back at. You know, like this is that time on this year when we got so much rain that all of this was full. And it's an important time to get your cameras out when stuff like that happens that might not happen again or might not happen for decades or something like that. And you can look. [01:32:00] Speaker B: That's kind of my mantra, isn't it? It's about, you know, photograph what is before it becomes what was. [01:32:07] Speaker A: Exactly. But not like there's. You're sort of doing it very regularly. So it's more like a continuous living, evolving documentary. But I mean even the simple thing of like, oh wow, this never happens. I should get my camera out. This is something, you know, like something weird, a tree fell down or I don't know, you know, like just that kind of old school reason that people would. Would take a photo just because something weird happened or something big happened or. I don't know, that's just. [01:32:40] Speaker B: Well, I think it's where we play that part. We all play that part at some stage of the photojournalist. You know, we document stuff that most people don't see. We document stuff that's rare. We document stuff that's, you know, maybe newsworthy is not the right term, but fascinating and interesting and all those things. [01:33:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it could be newsworthy or it could just be yeah, just sort of like. This is an odd thing. Yeah, yeah. Question about an airfield in the, in the, in the image, but no, it's not an airfield. The torque. Torque airfield is close. [01:33:20] Speaker B: All right, batter up. Philip Johnson with two images tonight. Greetings, Justin and Greg. Two images from a recent trip. West of the Blue Mountains is a valley called the Cape Tree. It's supposedly wider than the Grand Canyon and it's a magic place to visit. It's called the Gardens of Stone national park. Here are two images shot on the A7 Mark IV Sony 70 to 200, 2.8. Shot at 200 mil. [01:33:54] Speaker A: Those trees growing out of the cliffs. Yeah, that big formation. [01:34:00] Speaker B: Wonderful framing. [01:34:01] Speaker A: That big crack. Yeah, that's it. That's a great choice. I think having the trees in there on one side, the big cracks straight down the center, the color through the middle. Yeah. And then. Yeah, it's kind of all framed by the darker. [01:34:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Really snaps the frame in half quite effectively, too. Wow. [01:34:24] Speaker A: This, this gives you a lot of context about the spot. [01:34:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:34:29] Speaker A: But I think that I prefer this image if I was to pick a favorite out of the two. [01:34:34] Speaker B: This is just. [01:34:34] Speaker A: I don't know. There's something special about this. [01:34:40] Speaker B: Yeah, there isn't there? Print it. [01:34:41] Speaker A: What's. When you print it, what size those trees are. [01:34:49] Speaker B: That's beautiful. A couple of lovely comments from David Skinner. Wow. Phil. Epic from Phil Thompson's. Great color contrast and the tree against the harsh stone. Yeah, I agree. It's just a beautiful selection of the frame that you've chosen. You know, like you've had this massive cliff face and you've really found a. A sweet spot and framed it up beautifully. Well done. [01:35:21] Speaker A: Yep, Great work. [01:35:23] Speaker B: Yep. There's that jet again. [01:35:25] Speaker A: It's just, just moving around. [01:35:28] Speaker B: Up next, we have Lucinda Goodwin with two images. Hey, gang. Couple of images from the weekend. I was lucky enough to document the first show in a brand new venue here in Geelong called Church. It's an old bluestone church that has now been converted into a live music space. It was kind of thrilling to navigate a new venue and find the angles. I'm back here this Saturday, so I'm excited to document more shows. [01:35:57] Speaker A: That's a cool venue. [01:35:59] Speaker B: That's great. [01:35:59] Speaker A: Look at that. Yeah. The grungy black and white. Look at the, just the. It's like, it's great lighting for a small venue. In terms of what you've done with it, I don't know what, what it was like, but how you've managed to capture this, like getting some Light on people's faces on the right hand side of the image. And. But then the, the. The band themselves are really sort of lit. Lit up. It looks like a sort of a well set up little venue, but I'd be interested to know if it was a nightmare or if it was actually great. This is awesome as well. The colorful one separating out the singer. [01:36:36] Speaker B: Yeah, that's really clever. Lucinda's gone on to add that it is part of the Geelong Art center. So good tech spec. Okay. Yeah, they've got money. Lucida put some other images up, I think of this venue and when I first saw them, I thought it was Chapel off Chapel, which is just around the corner here. They sometimes use that as a band space and that is also an old bluestone church. But yeah. This is crazy. This is so good. [01:37:08] Speaker A: And Lucinda says that this effect on this image, the blurring was done in camera with a ghost filter. I don't even know what a ghost filter is. I, I assumed a ghost filter would be something you would put on if you need to try and avoid capturing a ghost while shooting a haunted house, like for real or something. [01:37:26] Speaker B: I would have thought it was the other way around that you wanted to capture a ghost, so you had to have the special ghost filter. [01:37:33] Speaker A: No, see, I, I thought when you normally like, if you put a red filter on a. On a camera, doesn't that bring out the blues and it blocks the reds? I don't know. I can't remember. So I assumed that if you were to put a ghost filter on, you would be trying to block out any potential ghosts that might show up in your image, thus making it harder to sell your house on realestate.com. dickhead. [01:38:01] Speaker B: Sorry. [01:38:01] Speaker A: Okay, it's like we should get to the end of this show rapidly. [01:38:07] Speaker B: Justin's losing it, folks. 4:00' clock with that puppy. [01:38:11] Speaker A: Yep. Lucinda says there probably are some ghosts in here. It is an old. It's an old church. [01:38:19] Speaker B: It's a very old church. [01:38:20] Speaker A: Great shots. Thanks for sending them in. Epic as always. [01:38:24] Speaker B: Yeah, print that one for sure. Print them both. It. But that one there is just gorgeous. I love it. It's got this timeless feel to it, you know? [01:38:36] Speaker A: Very cool. Sure does. [01:38:37] Speaker B: Oh, and sorry for jumping the foam, everyone. [01:38:40] Speaker A: One tiny bit of feedback, Lucinda, and you probably already know, or maybe it's only because of the size that this got exported at and. But I can see on my computer a little bit of if, if it wouldn't keep skipping images, a tiny bit [01:38:57] Speaker B: of [01:39:00] Speaker A: artifacting and noise that my 5R 5 mark 2 gets when it tries to push the corners up from profile corrections. So. And it can get real noisy and I often pull the profile corrections down if I've shot high, high ISO images because you can see in these corners and I could be way wrong. You might have done this for creative effect or this might, I don't know. So if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I've seen this happen on some of my highest ISO, particularly black and whites. When it adds the profile correction on. You don't see it in Lightroom, you don't see it until you export. [01:39:41] Speaker B: Wow, really? [01:39:42] Speaker A: It's really weird. No, you won't notice it in Lightroom in the way it renders the raw, but it's like if you export it especially at like an online size or whatever, this brings it back in. Yeah, it's like, oh my gosh, what is this software doing to me? Tonight I think I'm gonna ditch this Phoenix slides. It was great for a while and then it got really bad. But yeah, when you view the image, I can't zoom in on it anyway in the corners you just get this noise showing through and I often either add a bit of vignetting back or just decrease the profile correction just to make sure that I haven't pushed the shadows too much in the corners and end up with that sort of white looking noise. [01:40:26] Speaker B: Yep. [01:40:28] Speaker A: Yeah, you'll be able to, I mean just, just pull the. Yeah, pull the profile correction, the vignetting correction down in under profile corrections. Don't leave it at standard and obviously it's going to add some natural vignetting but it'll, it'll darken off those corners and stop that from happening. Yeah, bugs me all the time. [01:40:52] Speaker B: Nice work. [01:40:53] Speaker A: One of the very small things that is not, not ideal about the R5 mark 2 and much better on the R3 doesn't happen anywhere near as much. [01:41:05] Speaker B: Good pickup, boss. [01:41:07] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you know, I've shot a lot of high ISO on R5 Mark II enough to. And then exported them as JPEGs and going, oh no, what have I done? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You won't see it until after the export and then you'll be like, what the hell? Yeah, definitely. And that's another reason always have a quick check of files before you send them to clients or whatever. Because things happen when you export that don't necessarily render in the Lightroom viewer and then when you check them later on. And then it happens again too. Sometimes when you put stuff onto social media and it goes through that compression algorithm, you see changes again, banding and stuff like that. So. [01:41:46] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. All right. Lovely. Great work, Lucinda. Up next, we have David Skinner with one image. Good evening, everyone. This photo taken a couple of afternoons ago while we still had the broken river near us in flood, but not dramatically so. I needed some better light. But, hey, you work with what you get. This was taken on the Nikon Z7 mark II. Nicole 24 to 120. At 102 mil F 6.3 and ISO 400. It was getting a tad dark as the sun went under cloud. The sun under cloud got lower. I hope for some low sun color if it broke through, but alas, no. The river has receded a bit more now, but since moving here in October last year, this is the first time I've seen it flowing. There are plenty of walking cycling tracks along this river and beautiful gums and wattles. Plenty of opportunities for different times of day and other weather conditions. Cheers. For now. David, [01:42:47] Speaker A: I love the framing of the yellow. Yellow waddle at the back, reflecting on the water. [01:42:52] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:42:55] Speaker A: Yeah. I would have even cont. I mean, depends what. What. What option you had. I would have even contemplated seeing that even tighter, you know, on that. That yellow. Don't know. But yeah, beautiful. Beautiful choice making that the center. [01:43:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:43:12] Speaker A: Focal point. [01:43:14] Speaker B: Yep. And because of the reflection, it's just got this beautiful verticality to it. Yeah, beautiful. I love that. Yeah. I love that pop of yellow in the middle. Yes. [01:43:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Nice crop of the trees, too. Not trying to get too much in because you'd lose. Yeah. You'd lose the sort of the pop of yellow if you went too wide. [01:43:38] Speaker B: Yep. [01:43:42] Speaker A: And good choice to get your camera out during an event that doesn't always happen. Just like. [01:43:47] Speaker B: See, there you go. [01:43:49] Speaker A: Memories. [01:43:51] Speaker B: Yeah. And so it was foretold. Up next is Neville Clark. We have a look at Neville's image. The Neville. Surprisingly, Neville has been on this occasion a man a few words, which is not his natural stance. Pemberton, Western Australia. Moment to just reflect. Where's the image, Jay? [01:44:12] Speaker A: Phoenix slides. I'm sorry, you're out. This is the last week I'm using Phoenix slides. It just does what it wants. Now. [01:44:19] Speaker B: Fuji GFX 1/ hundreds mark II GF 100 to 200 with a Nissi CPL ISO 800F 14 and 1. 105. That is 105. 105th. 105 from 105. I don't know how to say that anymore. The words have left me. But when Nev shot this image through earlier today. I was. Yeah, I just stared at it for the longest time. It's just so peaceful. [01:44:49] Speaker A: It is peaceful. You know what's interesting, that there's that little bit of water in the middle that is disturbed, so it's catching the wind. And I wonder, like, would it look worse without that? Obviously you would get a smoother reflection all the way through. But is it adding an element of interest to this photo that without it it's sort of balanced or something? I don't know. [01:45:21] Speaker B: I think the break in the water helps you to then identify where the horizon line is or the shoreline in this case, you know, because otherwise it could almost blend too seamlessly. But that breaking the wall halfway through the foreground really kind of brings your eye back too. Kind of give you leveling, gives you [01:45:43] Speaker A: a sense of depth and scale as well. Yeah, it's like. Of distance. Yeah. [01:45:50] Speaker B: Yeah. And the contrast just staggering. Like it's just. There's something really compelling about this frame. Like it really. It's organic, but it's also. There's this darkness. Yeah, there's a little bit of it going on. [01:46:03] Speaker A: Yeah, it's got a little bit of mystery and, and. And not necessarily just pretty picture about it, you know, a little bit of. Yeah, like it could be a scene in a movie that's about to have some. You know, they're kayaking down this river, but they don't realize that that guy of that movie that goes. Is following them, you know. What's that? Oh, you've seen it? [01:46:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I used to give Anaconda, but no. What noise does he make? Jay Ra. [01:46:37] Speaker A: Oh, what's the. With that awesome song? Oh, the movie is so good. Someone. Someone. Lucindra put it in there. Someone. You must have watched it. You must have watched that movie. It's recent Australian horror movie. [01:46:55] Speaker B: Oh, like Wolf Creek kind of thing. [01:46:57] Speaker A: Yeah. But new recent Australian horror with Kayaker. Nope, that's not it. [01:47:14] Speaker B: Oh, not the one with Shelley's. The Theon. [01:47:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:47:19] Speaker B: And the Aussie guy. He's a psycho, that one. [01:47:23] Speaker A: Apex. [01:47:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know what. Oh, there you go. That's right. [01:47:25] Speaker A: You haven't watched it. [01:47:27] Speaker B: No, I don't like those sorts of movies. [01:47:31] Speaker A: You gotta watch it just for the. Oh, I don't know. The scene where she finds out that he's not. That he's a bad guy is so good. Yeah, the chat will know. Surely. Surely I'm not the only one that's watched that mega popular movie anyway. This could be A scene from me. [01:47:55] Speaker B: Beautiful shot. [01:47:56] Speaker A: Beautiful shot, Nev. I love it. It's. It's awesome to see stuff that is beautiful. But also, obviously, you take epic sunrise, sunset drones, beach, seascape photos, and it's nice to see you tackle something that's probably not as. Not, not as easy. I know what the right word is. You know, like, it's not inherently just like, wow, what a magical sunset. And you're able to bring out something beautiful in the scene and something completely different. [01:48:26] Speaker B: Yeah, but it's also indicative of. I think Nev's got a range. [01:48:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. [01:48:33] Speaker B: You know, and. And you know, he's. He's still relatively new at this and he keeps exploring these new kind of new areas and new opportunities. I think. I think it's a beautiful shot. And Philip Johnson says that Apex was shot in the Blue Mountains. [01:48:51] Speaker A: That's a good reason for you to watch it. Greg, Check out Phil, Philip Johnson's neighborhood. You get a bit of a backyard view of what it's like. [01:49:02] Speaker B: I'll look out for that, Justin. Thank you. I'll add it to my watch list. Okay, let's move along. Richard Mayall is up next. Thank you, Nev. Once again. Hey, guys. I thought I'd reach back into the archives for this week's photo. You already know I'm a portrait guy, so here's another sub genre I love to shoot, which is dance. This shoot was held at my sister in law's dance studio at night. That's her in the photo. Oh, I lost my headphones. The lights were all turned off, rendering the studio pitch black. The only light in the entire room was the two ice lights that were held and controlled by the dancer. Oh, wow, that's clever. [01:49:47] Speaker A: Do you remember the ice light, Greg? Who invented it? [01:49:54] Speaker B: Dennis Smith. [01:49:55] Speaker A: No. He probably built something similar. Jerry Jonas. Yes, that's the Jerry Jonas ice light. And that was the tube light before tube lights were a thing. [01:50:07] Speaker B: There you go. Good on him. [01:50:11] Speaker A: And great use of two of them. Beautiful. [01:50:13] Speaker B: Yeah, two of them. We had music playing and they moved how they wanted. And I grabbed the moments as I saw them. This is a favorite from the night. This was shot on a Nikon D4S Nikkor 7202.8 at 70mil, 1 3.20th of a second at 2.8, ISO 4000 taken at 10:30 at night. Thanks for taking a look, Richard. Mile. [01:50:40] Speaker A: Beautiful. Beautiful and mysterious. [01:50:42] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:50:46] Speaker A: I think mysterious because you can't. Like, there's so much shadow and you can't see the eyes. You can't see, you know, the other leg. Like, it's just the element of. Of mystery, but also tricky thing to tackle where your subject has to hold the lights. So you're sort of directing the lighting, but you're not ultimately in control of it. They are. [01:51:13] Speaker B: You've just got to be ready to capture the moment that gets lit and, you know, when you step back from it a bit. And maybe this is just because my eyesight is terrible. You've got this beautiful negative space and just these, these sl. These slender lines of light that are organic because they're, you know, they're limbs and. And muscles, and it's just beautiful. [01:51:37] Speaker A: Yeah, Great. Great thing to tackle. Great project. [01:51:41] Speaker B: Yeah, Amazing. Well done. [01:51:44] Speaker A: Awesome use of the ice light. Jerry Jonas, if you haven't watched that interview, well worth it. [01:51:49] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:51:52] Speaker A: Tweak Production says she looks like a jewelry box ballerina. Yeah, exactly. Spin around to that music. It exactly that pose. [01:52:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:52:04] Speaker A: Great comments from everybody. Who we got left? [01:52:10] Speaker B: We only got one to go, and that's Rick Nelson. [01:52:13] Speaker A: Rick Nelson. [01:52:16] Speaker B: Oh, all right. Hello, Greg and Justin sent to the new email and Justin's. Just in case I got it wrong, we'll remind you of the correct email in just a minute, folks. But last night I saw Venus shining bright next to the waxing crescent moon with a heap of earth shine on the bottom. I set my Lumix X5 Mark II to 1/4 of a second. F 6.3 ISO 1250 at 400 millimeters. And here it is. I exposed the dark part of the moon to get more of the glow. Did some star trails. Also may share later. This was just from my backyard while hanging laundry. Thanks for the show each week. [01:52:56] Speaker A: Well, way to make hanging laundry fun. [01:52:59] Speaker B: I know. I'm just going out to do the laundry, dear. [01:53:04] Speaker A: Two hours later. [01:53:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:53:06] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, that's. Yeah. Gosh. Taking photos of planets and moons and stuff is fun. [01:53:14] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a lot of that last week because all the planet. There's a whole bunch of planets in alignment too. [01:53:20] Speaker A: Oh, was there at the same time [01:53:21] Speaker B: as the solar eclipse? I think I might be wrong with that. Some of you stargazers can fill in the details, but I'm pretty sure there was a bunch of planets that were in alignment. It was one of these rare, you know, once in a however many years kind of thing. [01:53:34] Speaker A: Did that happen? Yeah. Love seeing some stars in this shot. Too often. Obviously, when you try and expose for the moon, if you. Especially if you zoomed right in, don't have Venus in there as well, you just end up with sort of dark black. [01:53:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:53:51] Speaker A: Background, you know. [01:53:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, Yep. [01:53:56] Speaker A: Very fun. [01:53:58] Speaker B: Rick Nelson says so much astronomical stuff seems to be happening lately. There is a lot of. And there's been a lot of earthquakes and I wonder if they're related. [01:54:07] Speaker A: It's possible. [01:54:08] Speaker B: A lot of earthquakes. Terrible. [01:54:10] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. Some near Indonesia. [01:54:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Japan, Indonesia, South America. [01:54:20] Speaker A: Oh, one final one. One final one. [01:54:24] Speaker B: What have you got? This one of yours [01:54:30] Speaker A: sent in by Nathan. The email subject was dogs rule. Cats drool. And I agree, sometimes cats do drool. And these are the dog bow tie photos that he was talking about for school photos. Oh, that's hilarious. [01:54:50] Speaker B: That is beautiful. [01:54:51] Speaker A: So funny. [01:54:53] Speaker B: So are they service dogs or are they. They must be. Why would. Unless I have bring a pet for [01:54:59] Speaker A: a photo day behind the scenes shot. [01:55:02] Speaker B: Yeah, that's pretty cool. Maybe you need props for your dogs in, in your studio when you set it up, Jay. Get some little top hats and maybe little monocles maybe. [01:55:15] Speaker A: Don't know. I'm excited, excited to have a little studio set up for some pooches. Photography awards got me excited. I don't have the creative ideas that they all have though. You know, those, those next level, I just want to take photos of pooches. They don't have to be, you know, the most insane photos. [01:55:36] Speaker B: So that's fair. That's fair. Well, thank you everybody for sending in your images. This is a segment that we host every Monday night here on the Camera Live podcast. Ran a photo photography show and of course we go live at 7.30pm Australian Eastern Standard Time. But if that isn't enough for you and you want to get your, get your, your photography geek on even more. Every Thursday morning, 9am Australian Eastern Standard Time, we host the Camera Life podcast where we interview an amazing photographer. Could be Australian, could be a global star, you never know. We've had some pretty big names on recently, but we also love celebrating the people that are up and coming which, which makes us the best photography podcast in the world. [01:56:22] Speaker A: Yeah, we must be. Gotta be surely as ranked by us [01:56:28] Speaker B: and for them to send us that, that, you know, the plaque with the YouTube logo and our first whatever number and the checks. The checks will come rolling in soon, I'm sure. [01:56:38] Speaker A: Eventually. [01:56:39] Speaker B: Eventually. But. But yeah, if you want to send images, send the images to the Camera Life. The Camera Life [email protected]. send in your image or just dot com. [01:56:51] Speaker A: Just the camera [email protected]. not the camera podcast. No, you said the Camera Life podcast. [01:57:00] Speaker B: Oh, sorry. [01:57:01] Speaker A: Don't send it to that. It won't, it won't go. It won't go anywhere. Send it to the camera live. Uckystraps.com I know it's a bit. Yeah, well, we're working on it. But the email works the best for now. The camera [email protected] Send us your images. Just one, tell us about it. Two, if you've got like a black and white or color question or this edit that edit this crop that crop or which of these two images should I submit to a competition? As if we'd know. But we'll give you our opinion. [01:57:37] Speaker B: Send them in. [01:57:38] Speaker A: We'd love to see them. If you've got a great sequence, you've been working on a set, a set of images. That's what I like to do. Sets. Send that in too. But we only really have time to show one or two of them a week. But if you send in just one image, everyone's image gets shown. We don't just pick the best ones or whatever. If you send it in, we'll bring it up and we'll check it out. So that's the camera [email protected] Speaking of straps, if you want to buy one, just go to Luckystraps.com use code Greg they're amazing. Best camera straps in the world. Leather made here in Australia. Quick release system. Leaves nothing on your camera. Anti theft. Cut resistant webbing. Locking. Quick release system. The finest, most comfortable straps on the market. [01:58:22] Speaker B: Some would say sexy. Yeah, maybe stylish, you know, eternal. All those things. [01:58:32] Speaker A: Image never came through. Says try sending the pick. Hopefully it comes through for next week. Yeah, it's still not. Yeah, it's still not coming through. [01:58:42] Speaker B: I'll let you know. [01:58:43] Speaker A: Let's work it out over the next week and figure out if something's going wrong with the email address or something. We'll figure it out. [01:58:49] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll check it out. Sorry, guys, but yeah, don't forget this coming Thursday. Let me just scroll all the way back to the top of my running sheet because we had so many photos. This coming Thursday, we are joined by Thomas Forbes. Thomas William Forbes. Thomas is a local Melbourne photographer with a really fascinating story to tell and he also runs a Instagram account because he loves photographing me. Melbourne trams. Who doesn't love a Melbourne tram? I love Melbourne trams. What about you, Justin? You've got trams in Bendigo, haven't you? Isn't that one we do? [01:59:24] Speaker A: I think there's only one that just cruises around to take some Visitors from like here to there. The talking tram, you know. [01:59:32] Speaker B: Yep, yep. Nice. [01:59:34] Speaker A: Not like Melbourne ones. They don't. They're not actually for commuting. [01:59:38] Speaker B: No. More of a touristy thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, so that's on Thursday. Next Monday, we have a very special random photography show planned for you. In fact, it's going to be a BFOP special. All going well? [01:59:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:59:57] Speaker B: Matt, Nick and CJ will be joining us for a chat about everything coming up for BFOP 2026. We hope to kind of pluck some. Some details out of them about what they've got planned and. Yeah, so hopefully that's. That's all planned for shoot. [02:00:14] Speaker A: What we should have mentioned earlier in the show while everyone was still here. That means we can't do the youe Images section next week, can we? [02:00:22] Speaker B: No, we still can. They can just help us judge, help us talk. Maybe. [02:00:29] Speaker A: We'll have to figure it out. We'll email people if it's because otherwise we'll just have to push up to the next week. But that'll be okay. We'll figure it out. Out. We'll figure it out. [02:00:36] Speaker B: All right. [02:00:37] Speaker A: Sorry, sorry. We're just figuring things out on the fly here. [02:00:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. He's the first Justin's heard of this, so, you know. Well, you were in Africa when I organized it, so. [02:00:46] Speaker A: That's right. To be fair. That's right. [02:00:48] Speaker B: Matt doesn't even know about it yet, but he's coming on the podcast. So there'll be Matt Crummonds, Nick Fletcher and. And Clarissa. Cj. [02:00:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Be fun. [02:00:57] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. But I think that's about it. I think we're ready to say farewell. It's early. [02:01:04] Speaker A: It's early. Well, still half an hour longer than the show's scheduled to go for, but it's earlier than normal. All right. Should we call it? [02:01:13] Speaker B: We should call it, indeed. [02:01:20] Speaker A: Philip Johnson says, thanks, gents, Night all until Thursday. Paul says good night. Everyone says good night. Oh, Greg Stubbing says, I agree. Great straps. Own six of them. How cool. That's awesome. Who else? Greg Carrick. You can tune into his radio show probably right now. No, 10:30. Gary Vellia, John Latimer. Thank you, Richard. Mail off to find next week's photo. Yes, find it. But we may not show it until the week after. We're not sure. Thank you, Tweak Productions. Thanks for sending your photo in. Sorry we couldn't find it. David Skinner. Greg Carrick says click that, like button. Yeah, please do. Please do. Actually, even better if you've got a friend who's a photographer. Tell them about the show. Get him to send a photo in. Get him involved. Let's grow this thing. Rick Nelson says dogs have humans as owners. Cats has humans as pets, and that's why dogs are better. I'm glad we settled this debate once and for all. [02:02:21] Speaker B: Well, I don't think that's a settle. I think that's just an opinion. Nothing is settled. [02:02:26] Speaker A: Look. And with that, good night, Rick Nelson. Good night, Robert. Good night, Felicity Johnson. John Latimer. I send him one, but save it for whenever next time. Oh, we'll go searching for it. I don't know what's happened. Anyway, we'll catch you on the next one. [02:02:40] Speaker B: See you guys. Be safe. [02:02:41] Speaker A: Toodles.

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