Buying and Selling Used Camera Gear - The Random Photography Show (EP193)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: There's. Well, g' day everybody and welcome back to the Camera Life podcast. It is Monday, the. What is it 22 June. June's almost over, boss. [00:00:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:00:40] Speaker A: Crazy. [00:00:41] Speaker B: That's half the year gone. [00:00:43] Speaker A: Tax time, week away. You've been warned, people, it's time to run. [00:00:47] Speaker B: You didn't count all my. All, all the lucky stock. [00:00:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Or you just disappear to barley again. [00:00:55] Speaker B: Just run away. [00:00:57] Speaker A: Run away. Welcome and thank you for joining us everybody. Stick around because tonight we've got a pretty packed show. We've. We've got a bit of news to cover off and a few little announcements that have been happening around the place. What else we got. We're going to cover off a topic tonight. We're going to talk a little bit about used gear. [00:01:16] Speaker B: Yes. [00:01:17] Speaker A: Buying or selling. It's there. Do you delve into. [00:01:20] Speaker B: Should you. Should you. That's the question. Should you. Have you. [00:01:23] Speaker A: Should you. [00:01:24] Speaker B: Do you have. Oh, if you've got a horror story, I want to hear it. If you, if you've had a run in with buying something used, you know, creepy Facebook marketplace run in or maybe back in the day on, on good old Gumtree or ebay or something like that, remember, you know, or the classifieds. Even if you ever bought something out of the classifieds. The trading post. [00:01:45] Speaker A: I used to buy the Trading Post when I was looking for cars when I was, you know, 17, 18. Yep, yep. [00:01:51] Speaker B: So the way to do it, if you've got a story, we'd like to hear it because I've bought plenty of used gear. I've sold more than I've bought when it comes to used and it's always worked out pretty well. So I want to hear if anyone's had a bad experience. Yeah. Or if you've got any tips what to look out for, what to do, what not to do. We want to hear it. [00:02:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Let us know what your thoughts are on. Would you or wouldn't you? That's the other question, I guess. But also tonight we're going to cover off that. But we're also going to start covering off your images. That's right. You can send your images to [email protected] and each Monday night we, we bring up any images that have been sent to us. But when you shoot through your images, please make sure that you just said maybe one or two images, maybe a behind the scenes shot. [00:02:40] Speaker B: Unless you got a nice little series. We've got, we've got one series tonight. We've got a couple of like two images to Compare kind of thing. So they're okay, that's good, that's fine. Yeah, that's cool. So, but we're trying to keep it within a bit of a theme or just keep it simple and we might even start. We're talking about it. We might start pulling up the images. Usually we leave them to the end of the show. We might start pulling them up from about 8pm, 7.30pm now here in Victoria, Australia. But so in about half an hour we'll start pulling up your images and even our images. I've got some. I dug through the archive today and re edited some images that I'm excited to show and yeah, so we'll start pulling images up even if we're not through the news or anything and then we'll just see how we go. We'll just show some, get distracted, come back to it, you know. Yeah, that's how we roll. [00:03:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Rough and ready. So also, if you are sending in images, please also remember to perhaps change the file name to your name of any images you send through and that makes it much easier for Justin to track them. And also, you know, let us know what gear you use, what camera, what lens, what were your settings and what was the experience like for you? We always love to hear about that experience, but. So yeah, you can send those in anytime you want. It might be a bit late to send them in now, I think I. [00:04:07] Speaker B: Look, if you're listening live, you can sneak one in in the next five minutes, but that's about it. Otherwise save it for next week. Send it through anytime you want between now and this time next week or actually probably like. Like 5pm that'd be better for me. 5pm On Monday, Australian. Yeah, Eastern Standard Time. [00:04:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Anyway, yeah, nice. What else have we got to say? Let's talk about lucky straps. Do you want to give us a bit of an ad read, boss? [00:04:36] Speaker B: Not really, no. All right. I don't think everyone. No. Well, one thing I can tell you is I sent an. There's an email going out tomorrow. If. If you are in Australia, it's winter, you would know if you. Especially if you're down south where we are, if you've got cold hands, now's the time to buy some nice little photography gloves. Even we have. So we stock with the Australian, New Zealand stock is for veloret gloves, which are designed in Norway and designed for all winter conditions, including super deep winter. So a lot of people going on trips to Antarctica and stuff will buy them, but they've even got stuff that's suitable for just, you know, your general street photography in Melbourne, as Greg would know or I wear the power stretch liners. I've actually got a set of them in each of my jackets. They live left one lives in the left pocket, right one lives in the right pocket they live in. The jackets only come out to go on my hands. When they come off my hands they go back in the pockets always. So any of my jackets if I'm out shooting, so they're not the liners are so thin I can operate all of my camera controls without taking the gloves off at all and I love that. And they'll keep my hands from getting frozen on a chilly day. But then if you're going real deep winter, they've got stuff or go in the snow or your hands just get super cold. They've got ones that have flip back finger covers so you can operate your camera controls and they've even got the zip off mitts and ones you can wear liners inside all sorts of stuff. But there isn't much stock left and we, there's some models we won't be able to get more stock of until like September, October this year. So if you want some, don't wait. That's all I'm going to say. [00:06:19] Speaker A: Nice. Now of course you can pick up your valorant gloves so drop them in your cart over@lucky straps.com and we also sell premium handcrafted quality leather camera straps. That's right. We make camera straps that will probably outlast you. It'll definitely outlast your gear but it will probably live longer than you. So our camera straps are made from leather obviously. But we also have a bunch of features. We have a nylon webbing that is slash proof. We have quick release. [00:06:48] Speaker B: It's not nylon, is it a nylon. [00:06:50] Speaker A: Sorry Dyneema, sorry. [00:06:52] Speaker B: Which is a proprietary thread that is cut and abrasion resistant and extremely strong. [00:06:58] Speaker A: That blunder is going to come up in my performance review. I can just feel it. And we also have a quick release system so there's no dongles left on your camera. You, you know, if you're the sort of person that likes to carry a camera with you at all times. But then you, when you get to a job or you get to a site, you like to pop it on a tripod and take the strap off. Or with lucky straps leather camera straps you can quickly release your camera from its tether and put it back on when you're ready to take a walk. So yeah. So head to Luckystraps.com. now we do offer a 15 discount if you use code Greg, that's me. But we don't offer that discount on Valerie gloves. It's only on Lucky Straps branded products. So just important to make that, that differentiation. All right, I think I might just. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Sorry, that's enough of that. The long ads, people. [00:07:48] Speaker A: It was a long ad. [00:07:49] Speaker B: That's all right. [00:07:50] Speaker A: Sometimes we just got to cover shit off. So don't forget, guys, that this is the Camera Life podcast. We come to you live twice a week. Every Monday evening, 7.30pm Australian Eastern Standard Time, we have our random photography show which is what you're seeing right now. We go live at 7:30 and we cover news, product launches, unboxings, your images and a whole lot more. And then every Thursday morning we have an interview show, 9am Australian Eastern Standard Time, where we interview an amazing Australian or international photographer. Oh, Justin's showing a bit of nipple for everybody there. Well, I wasn't prepared for that tonight. He didn't hear what I said. You'll have to see it later. But no, I'm flustered. I saw your nipple. Every Thursday morning we have an amazing guest. Last week we were joined by Katie Phillips who is a family maternity couples wedding wedding baby photographer and an art therapist. And we, we sat down, had a good old chat about. It was a good chat and talking about her story and her journey and what her inspirations were and where she's at now. This coming week we're going to be joined by Andy Campbell who, who is the lead of one of Australia's best portrait and headshot photography studios. But on the side, I don't know where he finds the time for this, but he's also an astrophotographer. Andy has a whole bunch of stuff next to his name. He was an AIPP grandmaster photographer. He's director of Melbourne Headshot company and he has also even had images of his, his astro images celebrated by NASA. How big is that NASA? [00:09:36] Speaker B: Very. [00:09:36] Speaker A: What does NASA stand for, Justin? [00:09:41] Speaker B: National Aero Space Agency. [00:09:48] Speaker A: Nice. All right. [00:09:49] Speaker B: It's probably wrong. [00:09:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I can't remember either, but yeah. So we're going to get to unpack Andy's story. We're going to look very deeply at his night sky images that he has astrophotography and talk a little bit about how he goes about it. He's got some incredible gear. His gear list on his website is out of control and so we're going to unpack all that on Thursday morning. So we hope to see you there and to make sure you don't miss out. Please, please, please, please subscribe to the Camera Life podcast. Give this episode a thumbs up and then that way you. And hit the bell icon. When you subscribe, you can tick all notifications and then you'll get notified in your time zone when we are going live next. Oh, I feel like that was just too much. [00:10:32] Speaker B: I think it was too much. I was just thinking that. I was like, we're at 10 minutes in and. And we maybe we need to space that out a little. [00:10:37] Speaker A: Yeah, we might. We just might do that next time. [00:10:39] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll leave. Leave a little further. Yeah, I want to talk to the chat. Fermi was here early. [00:10:46] Speaker A: Look at this. [00:10:47] Speaker B: Philip Johnson got beat. Oh, my gosh. He was second, though. Good evening. Yeah, Dennis said before the show. Dennis School of Light said, hey, Legends, have a great night. I'm deep in an edit that requires 100% attention. Used gear. I'd buy used gear for sure from someone I know or a dealer I knew. Enjoy the show. Massive love. Thanks, Dan. [00:11:09] Speaker A: Thanks, Den. [00:11:11] Speaker B: Lucinda's here. John Latimer's here. David Skinner says, g' day. A bit early and thanks for the kind email. Well, you're welcome. Thanks to everyone that emails me. It's so nice. [00:11:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:11:22] Speaker B: I'm still replying to emails from people about camera straps from the other week. I'm chipping away, like, 40 to go. It was a lot anyway. [00:11:30] Speaker A: Wow. [00:11:31] Speaker B: Tintype man says, hi, guys. I can't buy what I need new, so it's all used. I've had some amazing bargains, but you have to work for it. I. E. The RF 24 to 105 that you bought for $200 off that needed four screws taken out and a blow. Okay, so someone. Yeah, so in their mind it was damaged, but you were able to fix it. That's pretty cool. Because $200 for that lens is. Those are normally secondhand. Like maybe a thousand. Twelve hundred. I think I've even seen some trying to get sold for 1400 secondhand. It's an L lens. Like, it's a. Yeah. Oh, unless it wasn't the F4 version. Either way, still a bargain. Insane. Yeah. [00:12:09] Speaker A: 200 bucks. Come on. [00:12:11] Speaker B: Felicity Johnson says hello, everyone. Cold here in Gongong. Wood fire crackling and rug on my lap. Man, I wish. [00:12:18] Speaker A: That sounds nice. [00:12:19] Speaker B: It does sound nice. That's the dream. [00:12:21] Speaker A: You don't have a wood fire. Do you know you don't. You live in the country. I'm in South Yarra and I've got one right here. We don't use it. But you have one and you don't use it. Well, this used to be Brendan's room. We've only just turned it back into the studio, so maybe we will. [00:12:35] Speaker B: You better walk down to your local. Wherever you would buy kindling from in the city. I don't know, probably have to buy like 10 pencil sized bits of kindling for $80 or something. [00:12:46] Speaker A: Yeah, probably, yeah. Although we. We used to get wood delivered. We used to get like a ton delivered and we'd stack it up in the. Against the wall inside the garage. [00:12:55] Speaker B: Awesome. [00:12:56] Speaker A: Even had a log splitter and a Thomas Hawk. Anyway, good old days. [00:13:04] Speaker B: Bruce Miles here. Rodney Nicholson, Lisa Leach. Tweak Production says I scored a secondhand Canon 100 to 400L Series 2 through CEX Online and it came with a five year warranty. Wow. Is CEX. Is that an American? [00:13:20] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it's in the UK. I think they do. I think they do tech and gaming. [00:13:24] Speaker B: Okay, that's cool. I think Lucinda Goodwin says the classifieds question mark. Yeah, you might be. You might be too young. [00:13:32] Speaker A: Yeah, you're a bit young, kiddo. [00:13:34] Speaker B: Good evening, Phil Thompson's and yes, you forgot to rename. That's okay. Yours are usually pretty good. Plus I just put them in a folder because you have a series. So that's fine. David Skinner says I just bought a Fujifilm XT30 with 18 to 55 for street. Only had to time to test it in local farmland. Seems to be a bit soft, but it's good soft. Hope to get some street in for next week. Yeah, interesting. Did you, did you test it before you bought it or you had to just buy it and hope. Hope for the best. Yes, it is glove season. Bruce Moore. Yeah, drop me a message for gloves. Let me know, let me know what you want and. And we'll see if we've got them. [00:14:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:18] Speaker B: Do we have the nice beige ones? Lisa Leach says no we don't. I think we. Those ones are discontinued unfortunately. [00:14:27] Speaker A: I remember those at befop last year. I think we only had a few different sizes and that was about it. [00:14:32] Speaker B: And they stopped doing that that color. They're only black now, which is sad. [00:14:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:37] Speaker B: David Skinner says I have a pair. Went well in the high country snow recently. Except my thumb end went painfully numb. Yeah, that is. So you can't even though they have flip back, you know, thumbs, you can't just leave them out there if your hands get really, really cold. So you either have to keep remembering to put thumb back on when you're not using camera controls or you need to like you can put hot hands warmers in some of the models depending on which one you got, which can help keep circulate like warm blood circulating even though your thumb's going to get, you know, freaking freezing otherwise you can try and put glove liners underneath them that are the ones that I use that are nice and thin. You can still use your. [00:15:15] Speaker A: Yeah, but don't they have touch sensitive tips? So you can still use them with your phone and your camera? [00:15:19] Speaker B: Yep, yep. Definitely Phil Thompson's. Those gloves sound good for winter sunrise shoots and New Zealand holidays. That's exactly what. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Richard Grenfell, Thrive, Thrive. Boudoir photography says I only buy jousting sticks, overhead projectors and seven Eskys from the trading Pist. I think he meant post. Yes, they're probably. [00:15:44] Speaker A: Probably telling me streaming. [00:15:46] Speaker B: Tell him he's dreaming. And Lucinda Goodwin used her lucky strap for an event last week. Love it. For my one body shoot. So that's awesome. [00:15:54] Speaker A: Nice. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Gosh, this chat's just going crazy. The show's just gonna be reading the chat. I can't catch up. Yeah, wanted to talk to everyone. Tintype man's bought a Nick Carver 6 by 17 for $250 and it normally goes for 1500. And it was all good until I realized the shutter didn't work under 1/8 of a second. New shutter bought for $200. Perfect. And you chatted to Katie from last week. Oh, that's awesome. She wanted to learn about tin types and stuff, so. Yeah, that's cool. [00:16:21] Speaker A: Very cool. [00:16:23] Speaker B: Okay, who else? Neil wants to know if I know some music. Have we ever considered making leather guitar straps? No. Well, actually we do. We have made lucky leather guitar straps and we. We could do another run of them, but the factory that makes our stuff, do they make the leather straps for mating guitars and. Yeah, you'll find that from the same factory our straps are made from. You'll find them in most music stores. But they don't use the same leather and materials and stuff we do. So when we do our runs of them, we use our leathers. So. Yeah. [00:16:55] Speaker A: And they're not lucky straps, guys. They're not lucky straps branded at all. [00:16:58] Speaker B: Not the same factory. [00:16:59] Speaker A: Yep. [00:16:59] Speaker B: But the ones we did are lucky straps branded. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. National Aeronautical and Space Agency. I was close. What did I say? [00:17:11] Speaker A: I can't remember. [00:17:13] Speaker B: I can't remember either. I think that's what I said. [00:17:15] Speaker A: National. [00:17:17] Speaker B: Anyway, I'll claim it. Okay. Man, I Can't catch up with everybody. CEX is an Australian tech secondhand shop. A bit like cash converters for games, mobiles and tech. And it got the 100 subscriber for 900 bucks. That's nuts. [00:17:36] Speaker A: I thought CEX was a UK store. Maybe it is now. [00:17:39] Speaker B: WEX is a UK store. WEX, photographic Wex. [00:17:44] Speaker A: Okay. [00:17:44] Speaker B: And yeah, I know there's quite a few American secondhand sort of big secondhand online places and they offer huge like guarantees and you know, you can send it back if you don't like it and all sorts of stuff like that. That's obviously would be a great way to go buying secondhand gear. [00:18:00] Speaker A: Yeah. The guys from Petapixel have used Keh, that's the one in the US for ages. Yeah, they're pretty good apparently. [00:18:10] Speaker B: Nev Clark says for me it comes down to doing my homework. Must see close ups of sensors. Yeah, smart. Yeah, check that sensor out, make sure it's not all scritchy scratchy like the back of an old cd. Lucy Lucida says I've bought heaps of secondhand glass, typically L series, and I've had a pretty good rum. Oh, Paul's here. Says hey guys. [00:18:41] Speaker A: Hey. [00:18:42] Speaker B: Welcome again after six weeks in an opposite time zone. Plenty of pics to share but we'll leave that till next week. I can't wait. Excited. Okay. Greg Carrick wants to know where the cats are. Greg? [00:18:54] Speaker A: Oh, the cats are upstairs. They're in bed. Yeah, yeah. [00:18:57] Speaker B: And Chris Nielsen, 9885. Hey all. I've been following the show for a couple months now from New Zealand and like it. Well, that's all awesome about used gear. I used to buy from KH and I bought from the US off eBay. No problems. Trying ex Japan soon. Oh, that'll cool. Well, keep us in the loop. Keep us in the loop because yeah, I've mainly only ever bought from like back in the day I bought from ebay and I can't remember if I'd bought anything off Gumtree or not. But yeah, now, yeah, Facebook Marketplace and definitely I would sell most of my stuff through Facebook Marketplace. Now all of, yeah, everything I've sold, unless it's through to a friend or something has been Facebook Marketplace and it's always been pretty good for me. It's always just a matter of trying to. You've got to go through the obvious scam checks. There's questions you can ask to figure out if they're a photographer. That that becomes apparent pretty quickly and then I'll generally Take the risk if I get a good vibe, you know, to pay for it and post it, if it's not insanely expensive, because I'm often not in the area where they are selling it. What's interesting, though, is almost never does someone in Melbourne trust me to send them, like, to pay for stuff and have me send it to them. They always want me to get the train to Melbourne and meet them or something. Wow. Like, I'm sorry, I'm not doing that to sell a 1500 lens. Like, you can come to Bendigo. And they're like, oh, that's too far. And I'm like, okay. Well, exactly. I'm like, I can. I can post it to you. And she would, if you want. And, yeah, they obviously often want to see it and check it, which is. It's fair enough. [00:20:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I get that. [00:20:50] Speaker B: But, yeah, it's something that I've been willing to take the risk on if I get a good feeling off the person that they're trustworthy. Usually through a phone conversation or something, depending on the price. You know, like, if it's. If it's a price that I'm a bit nervous about spending, I would want to have a phone conversation with the person. Yeah, always. Like, I usually ask to get. And I've offered this before when I've sold stuff too, is send them a video with their name written on a piece of paper next to the lens or something to prove that, like, hey, this is my lens. I've got it in my hands and this is. And I've written your name next to it. So it's not. I'm not using someone else's photos. I've stolen off Marketplace and I'm pretending I've actually got this thing when I don't. [00:21:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I've seen people even just drop. I mean, not that many people buy local papers anymore, but people will take a photo of gear next to a newspaper because it'll have today's date. [00:21:50] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:21:51] Speaker A: You know, it's hard to fake that. [00:21:53] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. I don't think I've ever, though. [00:21:56] Speaker A: Exactly. That's. It's gone. But I. I haven't bought much stuff off. I don't think I've bought anything off Marketplace or sold anything. I usually stick with ebay. For me, it just feels a bit more safer, a bit more trustworthy. There's buyer protection, the seller protection, and, you know, I can do the transaction without having to touch any cash or, you know, just insist on PayPal. [00:22:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:25] Speaker A: Whenever I've Sold stuff. But it is interesting and it's a topic that's, that kind of pops up from time to time. I, I wrote a article for ShotKit which we kind of use as a bit of inspiration for today's episode of the Random Photography show about, you know, how to buy and sell photography gear. Granted the, the article I wrote is buying and selling Secondhand Fuji gear, but it's universal. The concepts around it about, you know, how to, how to, how to be safe as a purchaser, how to be safe as a seller, what you should and shouldn't include all that sort of stuff. So if you head to shopkit.com you can find that article. It's called Buying and Selling Secondhand Fujifilm Gear. But you can just exchange Fujifilm for, for Canon because everyone will be selling that eventually, you know. [00:23:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, no, well, maybe if I get JFX stuff. No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. I'm gonna go, I'm gonna read some comments and then I'll, I'll talk about why. What I've been thinking about for selling gear lately, Bruce wants to know what questions would I ask? Well, it depends on the piece of gear, but I would just usually to start with, I want to establish that they have indeed used like owned and used this piece of gear themselves so they would know what they're talking about. So if it's like, if it's a flash, I'll ask what sort of work they did with it. And I'll usually leave the questions open ended. You know, I won't say did you do studio or location stuff with a flash? I would just say what, what sort of work did you do with the flash? That kind of stuff, what system did you use it with? Or whatever. Just sometimes they're questions that they'd be like, what does that even matter? It doesn't relate to the, you know, to the sale. But I just want to see, you know, if it's a lens, I'll be like, hey, you know, why, why are you selling it? What body were you using it on? Usually I'll act like I don't know whether the lens might suit me, if that makes sense. [00:24:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:25] Speaker B: So that, to see if they could tell me because if someone asked me I was selling a 51.2, why would you have a 50 up for sale, for example? And they said, you know, would this be good for macro? I'm not just going to say, you know, I Google it, mate. I would say, look, probably not, you know, it's not. It's not a macro lens. It's really good for portraits. It's really good for this. I used it for this. And then. So I want to get a similar response to that. I don't expect them to go into detail, but I just want to get a feeling that these are actually. And I'll also obviously look at their Facebook profile, see if there's any kind of links to photography. [00:25:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:06] Speaker B: Whether they've. You know, most people that are using the sort of gear that I buy are often doing enough photography that they'll post it, you know, somewhere. [00:25:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:16] Speaker B: Something. They'll have a. Yeah. A page or something like that. [00:25:19] Speaker A: So that's. [00:25:20] Speaker B: That's how I usually do it. I just. Just want to try and get an idea that they're legit. [00:25:26] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think that's. That's one of the first things you should establish before anything else. Don't get your hopes up about that piece of gear. That seems too good to be true. Do you do due diligence? One thing that we found with some of the Fujifilm groups that we used to. That I used to be involved with, not so much anymore on Facebook is that people would join the group to sell gear and then they. They'd leave. Right. So they'd answer the questions to get in. It was a private group, so they'd get into the private group and then within a week they'd put gear up. And we used to always have to sort of do a takedown of that or at least investigate it to see, you know, how long have they been on Facebook. If they only just set up Facebook a few days before they joined your group, that's probably a bit of a, you know, a bit of a sign that something sus. Something sus is going on. So, yeah, like Nev said, you know, do your homework, ask some questions. You know, if you're. If you're in a group and you find a product, let's say you're in a. You know, you're in a Rico GR group because you're hoping for. To grab a Ricoh GR2 or something and one comes up and it, you know, check what the rules are in the. In the group to begin with. Can you buy and sell secondhand gear in the group? Have a look at this person's profile, see. See how long they've been on Facebook for. See if they actually have real friends. You know, just hunt around a little bit. And if you're really unsure, then check with the moderator or the admin of the group, ask them if this is someone that's been in the group for a while or if they've only just joined, if you can't work it out. And I think that's probably given the world that we live in, unfortunately, I think that's probably the first question that you should answer when you're buying secondhand gear. Is this legitimate? And do what you can to try and address that question. It's not always easy if it's too [00:27:15] Speaker B: good to be true, the price. Unless you somehow end up with a bargain like Tim type man did with. For one that's got dust in it or something like that. But if it's, if it's a, you know, an L series Canon lens or something that's, that's worth two grand normally and it's selling for 800 bucks, like really check everything and get like. Because the likely. And they'll usually bank on the fact that you're. You want to rush to get the deal before someone else grabs it and they'll get you to send a deposit or something like that to hold it. Don't, don't fall for that because they'll just ask for like 50 or 100 or something or even, you know, half the price or whatever. And they, they bank on the fact they're like, oh, you know, I'm getting tons and tons of messages. And look, they might. But it's better to miss out on a bargain than get to scammed out of 500 bucks. [00:28:05] Speaker A: Yes. And what, whatever you do, don't settle for just one image. If the sales post doesn't have enough images, ask for more. Yeah, ask to see both ends of a lens. Ask to see the sensor. Ask to see the screen on the back. If it's a camera, ask for a video. That's what I already did. A video. [00:28:23] Speaker B: Yeah, just a quick, just quick video. Just showing me both, you know, like both the front and the rear element, just moving it around stuff so I can get a bit of an idea. And again, the reason I do that is because that's harder to find, you know, if they're like hunting the Internet to find secondhand pictures to send you. But yeah, trust, trust your gut. Let's. All right, it's at 8 o'. Clock. I'm going to stick to our plan. We're going to, we're going to bring up a couple of images and then we'll get back into this and so what while we, after we bring up a couple of images, I want to talk about this topic. Rick Nelson says Hey, Rick, by the way, good to see you. He says I buy on ebay and sell on Facebook While we bring up the next couple of images, Rick, I want to find out why. Why do you buy on ebay but sell on Facebook? What's the plan there? All right, [00:29:11] Speaker A: whose images we're going to bring up. [00:29:13] Speaker B: Want to start with John Latimer? [00:29:14] Speaker A: Yeah, of course. [00:29:15] Speaker B: First on the list. [00:29:17] Speaker A: Yep. [00:29:18] Speaker B: So, John, his image. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. [00:29:21] Speaker A: Can you find it? [00:29:22] Speaker B: No, I wasn't ready. There it is. [00:29:30] Speaker A: That. All right, I'll start reading. Hey, guys. Oh, away in Sydney again for work. Crazy busy time of year. Sorry. The image isn't better. Better res taken from camera and compressed onto phone until I got home to edit properly each morning before the convention starts. I've been heading down to Homebush really early and been working on different compositions and the morning light until I finally got some shots that I'm really happy with. This is one of the shipwrecks in the bay. SS airfield or R field on the edge of the marshlands and is now known as the floating forest. Would, would have loved a wider shot but limited with the gear I have. If anyone in the camera life community has any recommendations on a wide landscape lens, that would be great. Thanks guys and the community. Have a great week. John Lederbar. So this was shot with a Sony A7R III with 100 mil macro, 4 second shutter, f 2.8, ISO around 200. [00:30:32] Speaker B: Oh, gosh. Recommendations on a wide landscape lens for Sony, man, they I don't like. I've only browsed the Sony system when I'm contemplating switching systems which regularly, which is regular but they have so many options in lenses and then you've got the ability to go to Sigma and you know, like there's so many lenses available in that wide. You could, you could basically just figure out roughly what you want to spend and you know, if you, if you're doing only landscape and not astro, you don't need 2.8. And so if you went for an F4 wide, there would be so many options. Could get something nice and compact. You could, yeah. Tons and tons of options depending. [00:31:17] Speaker A: But if there are any Sony shooters in the chat such as Philip Johnson, let us know what you use for wide landscape work. [00:31:25] Speaker B: Yeah, Bruce Mole says look at Laura wide angles. Chef's kiss. [00:31:33] Speaker A: All right, let's look at this image. [00:31:35] Speaker B: Yeah, look at that thing. [00:31:37] Speaker A: That's amazing. [00:31:38] Speaker B: What a cool and like time of the day. Nailed it. But spot on. I would love to see Just a little more context of the surrounds and that beautiful sky and the light and the buildings and stuff. So I understand. Yeah, you didn't really have an option. And this image is definitely better than walking past and going well, don't have the right lens. Not taking that because this is a great photo and allows you to see so much texture in that rust. Rusted metal and. [00:32:07] Speaker A: And the light. The light, the color of the. The sky, the clouds and the. The reflection on the water. It's just beautiful because it really contrasts against the greenery. [00:32:17] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. [00:32:19] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:32:20] Speaker B: Great way to start the night. [00:32:23] Speaker A: Yeah. Great work, Rick. [00:32:25] Speaker B: Rick Nelson says ebay has buyer protection and most things are from Japan. I order a few from local people here and there. Ah, okay. So it's usually. Yeah. So overseas I could definitely see that. I. I would not buy something on Facebook from overseas unless it was a personal connection of some sort. I definitely wouldn't be going. Going that way. Goes on to say selling on Facebook though saves me from mailing as I work during precious Auspost hours and meet at public places for the deal. Nothing like going to a Maccas for lunch and walking out with more dollars. Yep. It's like you're doing drug deals but with camera gear. Nice. [00:33:03] Speaker A: Yep. Very cool. [00:33:07] Speaker B: And tweak production says about this image definitely needs a wide angle. The sky would have looked magic. And more reflections on the water. Yeah, definitely. Obviously you work with what you got but. [00:33:17] Speaker A: But taking that with 100 mil macro. Well done. [00:33:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Nice work. You know, especially four second shutter. Obviously must have been on a tripod or is amazing. [00:33:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:30] Speaker B: Amazingly. [00:33:31] Speaker A: Rock steady. Rock steady. [00:33:34] Speaker B: Should we do the next one too? [00:33:35] Speaker A: Yeah, let's do Tweak Productions. Yes. All right. This is from Jamie Vandenbrink, otherwise known as Tweak Productions. I sent a picture a pic from my new Oppo X9 Pro phone with the Hasselbrad Cam Hasselblad camera a couple of weeks ago of a gecko and I thought I would give you an update. Here are two photos, one from my camera, one from my phone of the same mushrooms in my local park. I took a photo in the morning with my phone and came back in the arvo with my camera. You can probably tell which is which. But I'm still blown away by what this phone can achieve when I don't have my camera handy. As you have said to many other people and to myself on the previous photo, whatever camera was in your hand at the time to capture that moment was the right one. Lucky Mushrooms don't move too fast. And I could go back and get the same moment with the camera. Both photos were shot in RAW with natural light. The phone was a single shot, 16 mil ISO 400F 16, 1/100 of a second. And the camera was an R5 Mark II with an EF S 24mm macro. Sorry, just had to yawn. 15 photos stacked shot at ISO 400F 2.812 50th. Also tried focus stacking with the R5 in camera and tried out Helicon stacker. Very cool. Always a good week when you learn something new. And also, both images were edited in lightroom to match the coloring. Have a great show. Thanks. Tweak. Let's have a look at these images. [00:35:12] Speaker B: All right, so this is one obviously great composition. They look almost like set up like this is, you know. Yeah, you wouldn't find this in nature. It's beautiful. [00:35:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Really, really nice. [00:35:29] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [00:35:30] Speaker A: It's hard to know. Go back to the previous one. I'm going to make a prediction. I think this is the one shot with the Oppo Hasselblad phone only because the bokeh is almost too perfect. Like, it's had some. [00:35:52] Speaker B: Let's just go back to this one. [00:35:55] Speaker A: Maybe it's the other way around. [00:35:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gonna say when you said the Bokeh, I was like, yeah, he's onto it. It's the fact that the bokeh is squaring off on the edges in the top right hand corner, and there's this sort of strange blooming artifacts and stuff like that that it's. It's just not natural. But gosh, it. It. For a phone, it's done a pretty great job. And so, yes. So Felicity Johnson is saying the stacked one has better focus on the large cap, I'm guessing. Yes, it does. So I don't know if you'll be able to see this. Hang on, let me go back to here. [00:36:36] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, More detail. [00:36:37] Speaker B: Yeah, there's more. Much more detail. Whoops. On the front of the cap of that mushroom. But still detail back to the other ones, which is really cool. It's starting to get fall off towards the back of the cap. But yeah, if we go to the other one, you'll see here it's got focus here and on the stem, the stalk, whatever you call it, but not on the front. And I don't know whether that's digital or like, I don't know what's actually doing this in this oppo because obviously a lot of this is computational, but yeah, if you go up and look at this bokeh. [00:37:17] Speaker A: Yeah, look at that. [00:37:18] Speaker B: It's doing some weird stuff, but still amazing. As you say, the best phone's the one you get. The best phone. The best camera is the one you've got with you. And if that happens to be your phone and it's an oppo or. What were we looking at the other day? Those Leica ones. [00:37:35] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, the Xiaomin Xiaomang, Chow Ming [00:37:40] Speaker B: Xiaomi. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very cool. Great photos and thank you for sending in the. The comparison. Rick Nelson says the bokeh corners look like stamp edges. Yeah, they're sort of weird stuff going on. I don't know what it is. I'd love to. Yeah, I'd love someone to explain what's. Is it the lens? Is it computational? Like what's happening to that bokeh on the edge? [00:38:09] Speaker A: Yep. [00:38:11] Speaker B: Yeah. But excellent photos. Great composition. [00:38:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Well done. [00:38:14] Speaker B: Very, very cool. Okay, what else? Oh, let's. Let's catch up a little bit. Philip Johnson says I use a Tamron 15 to 55, but then I think convert 18 to 55 Tamron for wide shots on the Sony and it's a reasonably priced lens. Is that a. Is that a crop lens or is that a.18 to 55 is usually crops. What else? Let's take a little pause for a second. Nathan. Hey, not just camera stuff, but I have a folder on my phone of the very weird and wonderful world of Facebook Marketplace finds. We're talking 400 plus screenshots of just pure. Why do you have this? If you get bored one day, send us like the top five or top ten. Not the top. Obviously don't want you to look through 400 and have to rank them. But just if there's. If there's a few that you just think, yeah, these will be. These will be funny. Send it through. We'll have a little segment of things that Nathan found on Facebook Marketplace. [00:39:29] Speaker A: We'll create a whole new segment. What did Nathan find this week? Full frame. [00:39:35] Speaker B: Okay. Full frame lens. Yeah. Okay. [00:39:37] Speaker A: They're nice and wide. Nice and wide, yeah. Amazing. Should we jump to a little bit of news? [00:39:46] Speaker B: Oh yeah, we should do some news and then I should get a few [00:39:49] Speaker A: things out of the way. [00:39:51] Speaker B: Wait, one more thing. Before news, I saw a comment up here somewhere from Bruce. Bruce says I don't sell or buy used. I think he's meaning because I can't be bothered with all the checking, etc. I should probably do it at some point to Offload some things. See, that's what I'm thinking about at the moment, is offloading gear. That was the other topic for tonight that I want to talk about is I've got Canon gear that's all great, but I'm not using it at the moment. And I watched a cool YouTube video from previous guest Peter Coulson, who was talking about how less is more when it comes to gear, and it really is. And in terms of for your creativity. And I've always had that as well, that feeling when I get when there's too much in my kit at any time, it takes away from my creativity. I know it does, but I also need to have certain things for different types of photography and work and all that sort of stuff. So he was talking about in his video how he has. Even though he's not selling a lot of his older gear because it wouldn't be worth it to sell, he's talking about lenses that cost him $10,000 and he might be lucky to get a thousand for him. And he's like, why would I sell this? Maybe one day I want to use it. You know, it's. It's not worth it to him to sell it. But yeah, instead he just refined his kit down into a couple of small bags and he's like, that's my bag that I take on location, this is my main studio kit, etc. And so I've kind of got that. But I don't know whether I should be selling my Canon lenses that are still great but don't have a place in my photography right now. You know, they're sitting there unused. They've been unused for quite a few months and I don't see a time when I'll need it again. But also, I've heavily invested in the Canon RF system and those lenses have already lost their money from buying them new, so they've already kind of depreciated to that used market value. Should I hang on to them while I can afford to still hang on to them, or should I get rid of them, get them out of my life, you know, reduce clutter, put money back in the bank account and if I need to buy them again one day, well, I just deal with it then. That's what I'm interested to know. If anyone's got some advice for me, [00:42:20] Speaker A: what should I do? It's interesting. Older gear or gear that was hard for you to come by should be harder for you to part with [00:42:31] Speaker B: in [00:42:32] Speaker A: a couple of different ways. You know, it should be something where you just go, oh gosh, you know, I had to work so hard or it was so hard to find one in this condition. You know, think about that experience. What did it take you to actually get it? Are they still available on secondhand market? So if you did sell it now and you wanted to get it back at some stage in the future, it's going to have to be pre owned. What's the market like at the moment and how has it been, you know, because sometimes trying to hunt down that piece of gear that you regret giving away can end up. Obviously it's going to end up costing you more than once. And so you need to make those judgment calls. But you know, if you say, for example, have five different 50 millimeter canon lenses, six, well, that's a different story, you know. [00:43:16] Speaker B: You know, it's funny though, so Lucinda's just said here, if it's L series and EF glass, I'd get rid of them. Well, it's funny because one of the most recent lenses I've bought is an L Series EF, but it's the 51 too. And I bought it for a very specific reason, for my film cameras. So that's one of the few that's not on the chopping block because I think it's one of those ones that I'll just have for a long time to shoot on film cameras. And I'm finding it quite beautiful to shoot with on the, with the adapter on my mirrorless stuff to the point where I definitely don't need to hang on to my RF 51.2. That one could definitely go because I've got the 1.4, which is super sharp, modern, lightweight video photo. It's a great lens. And then this one has that 1.2 dreamy look about it. [00:44:11] Speaker A: So, yeah, anyway, I remember when I used to shoot Canon and I started off with the Nifty 50, you know that the F18 on the EF and. And then eventually I saved up enough to get that 1.2. And gosh, it's a beautiful lens. And again, you know, it's, it's not a new lens, it's an old lens. You can't buy them new anymore. If you've got one that's in a really good condition, then, you know, you gotta ask yourself that question, am I gonna find one this good ever again? Yeah, before you sell. [00:44:48] Speaker B: All right, very quickly, before we jump to some news, Nev Clark says simple rule, if something hasn't been used in six months, it's going, yeah, I think [00:44:59] Speaker A: six months is a good rule. I think Oprah's rule used to be if you haven't worn it for a year, then you get rid of it. I remember watching that episode, all that decluttering. [00:45:10] Speaker B: Oh dear. All right, let's do some news. [00:45:15] Speaker A: Yeah, let's do some news. A couple of little lens announcements for you Sony shooters. Brighton Star has it has just dropped a new. Here's a wide lens 14 mil f 2.8 manual FE lens. [00:45:32] Speaker B: Oh wow. [00:45:33] Speaker A: I don't know a lot about the company, Brighton Star or who they're, you know, who, who's running the show for them, but gosh, it's a good looking little lens, I'll tell you what. And 14 mil full frame, it's available for E mount, Z mount, L&RF. [00:45:49] Speaker B: Interesting. [00:45:50] Speaker A: Yeah. So that's an ultra wide full frame, which John, might answer some of your questions. And finally the other little bit of lens news is that I think last week we talked about that VIL trucks were about to drop a new pancake lens. They put out a teaser, but no one knew what lens it was. It's the Viltrox AF 28 millimeter F 4.5. They're calling it the chip pancake. As for L mount lenses and they're calling it Chip because it is incredibly thin. Yeah, bring this one up and something. I didn't realize that we might have talked about it, but it didn't really click with me that Viltrox is part of the old mountain alliance. We talked about Elmo alliance last week. Was it last week, Jay? [00:46:42] Speaker B: I can't remember if it was last week or the week before. But yeah, the, the Elmer alliance, which is. Who is it? Leica, Panasonic, Sigma, Viltrox DJI I believe are part of it as well. Oh wow. [00:47:01] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But if you jump to the second photo just a little bit further down, you actually get to see how thin, how thin this lens is. [00:47:12] Speaker B: Well, Greg Carrick says so it's a pikelet lens. [00:47:15] Speaker A: Yeah, it's more of a pikelet. Greg, you're right. Drops gone. My nan used to call them pikelet lens. [00:47:22] Speaker B: I mean it is impressive, but also that could just be someone with really big hands. [00:47:28] Speaker A: No, but compare it to the mount. It's obviously going to be really thin. [00:47:31] Speaker B: You said, you doofus. Sometimes I am a doofus. [00:47:35] Speaker A: So yeah. So that's. Let me just have a quick look at how much that is. US$99. So what's that about 4,000 Australian at the moment? 150 bucks maybe. Okay. But yeah, tiny, tiny lens, pikelet lens. Moving into camera news. What do we got? What do we got? What do we got? Well, this one will interest you. Justin. There's been more leaks of the Leica SL3P camera. [00:48:04] Speaker B: So Leica's got an event on in Melbourne this Friday. I got an invite and I've RSVP'd. I. I think I'm gonna go. [00:48:15] Speaker A: Nice. [00:48:16] Speaker B: I'm not gonna buy it. [00:48:18] Speaker A: Really? [00:48:19] Speaker B: I will not. [00:48:21] Speaker A: All right. I'm going to stand outside the shop and video you making that purchase like I did with Greg Carrick getting that GFX lens. [00:48:31] Speaker B: So what, what are they talking about? What? So it's, it's the saying. It's the SL3P still. [00:48:37] Speaker A: Well, that's what the, the leak is of what's about to drop. Yeah. But there's also a Sumilux 50 mil 1, 4. An APO Macro 100 mil F 2.8 as well. Okay, so that would be very, very interesting. So all of those three things together come to $48,000? [00:48:58] Speaker B: They probably do. Rick Nelson says next week we get a liker. Unboxing. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. SL3P. So apparently it will be very much like the. What's it called? Panasonic S1. No, Lumix. S1. R2. What is it? [00:49:19] Speaker A: What's that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. [00:49:23] Speaker B: S12. SR2. I don't know, the Linux S12. [00:49:31] Speaker A: They don't make much noise Linux, do they? [00:49:34] Speaker B: No, it's not a long megapixel one. It must be the SR. [00:49:37] Speaker A: Okay, [00:49:40] Speaker B: two. Yes. Which is the 44 megapixel BSI CMOS sensor with 8K and advanced, advanced AI hybrid AF. So that will be. Yeah, yeah, Rick's onto it. S1R2. [00:49:57] Speaker A: Thanks, Rick. [00:49:58] Speaker B: It's, it's. So the, the rumors are that, yeah, that will be sort of the sensor and tech inside the Leica SL3P. The invite that I got sent had pictures of like car racing, automotive racing, close up photo of like a driver's helmet, beautiful photo, and then like a shot of a car cornering. So it makes sense that they would be releasing something that would make sense to do automotive photography. You know, it's not going to be an embody of some sort. It would just, wouldn't make sense with the images they sent in the invite. Unless the, the marketing team didn't get the, you know, didn't get the thing. So I, I think that's, I mean with the rumors that are circulating it's got to be basically that. I don't think there's any secret here. And I'm guessing it'll be, I don't know, $13,000 probably. [00:50:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Because the other SLs are around that, aren't they? They're around, yeah. [00:50:54] Speaker B: The SL3s is less. I think it's like 9,000 something. But the SL3 is 11 or 12 or whatever. Thirteen. [00:51:02] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:03] Speaker B: So it'll be, I would say it'd be priced at or above what the SL3, which is the high resolution with the 60 megapixel sensor. [00:51:11] Speaker A: Is that the one that they've then made the reporter edition of? [00:51:14] Speaker B: Yes. [00:51:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. [00:51:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:19] Speaker A: I came across some, some Leica glass on B and H and they were the safari green ones. Gosh, they look good. Just such a bananas color to use on a camera. Yeah, it just works, you know. [00:51:38] Speaker B: So. No, I will be there. I think as long as everything lines up with the rest of my week. I haven't been to the store for a long time and I'd like to take my Q3 down there and complain about the aperture ring. I'm sure that's what they'll want to hear about on a camera launch night. [00:51:54] Speaker A: That's. That's why they're inviting you. [00:51:56] Speaker B: I would also like to just get my hands on an SL body and just feel what it feels like, whether it is too chunky and that sort of stuff. But I. I am not going to buy one. Philip Johnson. I am not going to buy one on Friday. I'm not going to buy one on Friday. [00:52:15] Speaker A: I'm going to stand at the front with a big sign saying, you can do it, Justin, you can do it. [00:52:19] Speaker B: I'm not doing it. [00:52:22] Speaker A: What else, what else, what else, what else? [00:52:23] Speaker B: Hey, before we go, what else I did order though, which I'm excited about, A. A flash trigger. Godox flash trigger for my Q3. [00:52:33] Speaker A: Oh. [00:52:34] Speaker B: So. Because I realized I shot so many of my pet photography photos at 28 mil. [00:52:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:43] Speaker B: So I'm going to try the next shoot with the Q3 at 28 mil and then I'll put a 50 on a Canon body and I'll attempt to do it and see whether. Because I think the zoom while with a fast moving dog, the zoom lens can definitely help you make the most of a. A moment. You know, you can. When the dog settles, you can get multiple shots. But I think it might be making me a bit too frantic and trying to do too much rather than focusing on the image I'm trying to create in that moment. [00:53:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:53:18] Speaker B: And not worry about the fact that I might. This dog's, you know, not behaving, so I might try and get as much as I can as quick as I can. Just slow down and be like, all right, you're shooting wide now shoot wide and then swap cameras. Okay, now we're doing. Now we're doing portraits. [00:53:34] Speaker A: That's a good idea. [00:53:35] Speaker B: So I want to try that. Plus, I've wanted to play with the liker anyway. It's got a leaf shutter. I've wanted to do some off camera flash and stuff with it on mountain bike shoots and just do silly things. So, yeah, they were on sale, so I bought one. Oh, and final, final thing on that, which I'll update you all. I bought the non touchscreen one. So Godox flash triggers. I got the X3 Pro, which is the touchscreen one, to update my Canon one. And for the Leica, I've bought the X2 Pro. X Pro 2, I think it's called, which is not touchscreen because I've decided touchscreens suck, especially for triggering flashes. They're nice, they've got colors and stuff and lots more control. But when you're trying to work fast in a studio, doing the little like swipeys and stuff to get into menus is just annoying. And I don't like it. So. Yeah, that's why I like cameras with buttons on them. And I think flash triggers should also have buttons on them. [00:54:30] Speaker A: All right. Okay. [00:54:32] Speaker B: So I'll write a letter when I get it. [00:54:34] Speaker A: Yeah, it'd be good to see what a little other bit of Leica News. The M11P Hammertone Limited Edition has been rumored. So hammer tone is kind of that look that they achieve, almost like it's galvanized steel. [00:54:50] Speaker B: Oh, cool. [00:54:51] Speaker A: And it's kind of got this sort of this dimpled, motley gray look. [00:54:56] Speaker B: I hope they don't bring up an image. An SL3P hammer tone. Oh, no. Yeah, that'll be in a lot of trouble. [00:55:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I'll bring it up because it was only last week. We're talking about how they're looking at doing the two tone. Well, they have announced the two tone silvery, silvery gray ones, but they're saying the hammer tone will be next. [00:55:17] Speaker B: So is this an existing one of a different camera or is this. Someone's made like an AI thing. What is this? [00:55:23] Speaker A: No, I think this is an AI thing. [00:55:25] Speaker B: Mock ups below. Yeah, yeah. All pictures of mock ups. Okay. Well, yeah, now I don't care as much. [00:55:34] Speaker A: Well, it's. Yeah, it's interesting. Like, okay, it's groovy, it looks good. But how many editions of a M11 do you need? Because they have like the black. Yeah, I guess, I guess. I mean, you know, that's what they're doing. It just. Yeah. Sometimes gets a bit silly. [00:55:53] Speaker B: Bruce says agree touch screen is a gimmick on the Godox trigger. And Nev. Clark says I dislike the touch ones tried same dislikes the touch ones. Not sure. Yeah, yeah, cool. [00:56:07] Speaker A: Yeah. A couple of other little quick bits of news just under random news. Light lens labs developing a new black and white film. So be interesting to see what comes of that. In fact, the article, I think the article had a whole bunch of behind the scenes images. Oh, there's a video behind the scenes of the film being made. There's a couple and some sample shots as well. So yeah, another black and white film coming up. Interesting to see that light lens labs who basically make lenses, you know, branching out into film. It's kind of bizarre. [00:56:50] Speaker B: That's their first film, is it? [00:56:53] Speaker A: I think it might be. Just happening, look. Yeah, no, I think it might be. Anyway, more film's good. Yeah. Two bits of Fujifilm news. There's a new Fujikina has been announced. Fuji Ken is like their kind of, you know, it's their roadshow. They do it at least once a year from a different destination around the world and they usually use it to launch new products. There's a lot of rumored lenses coming up for Fujifilm in the next sort of 12, 18 months and everyone's waiting to see whether an X Pro 4 ever actually shows up or if it'll be an X Pro 5 or whether they'll just skip and go straight to a six. Who knows? Who knows? Fujifilm, as long as they got to [00:57:42] Speaker B: release one, they got to get that thing. [00:57:44] Speaker A: Oh yeah, well, they said they're doing it, but I imagine they're probably wanting to do it right, you'd hope. And finally bit of Fuji news is that the global Fujifilm GFX Challenge grant program has been announced yet again for this year. I think this is their sixth or seventh year. Fujifilm are offering, this is globally close to 145,000 Australian dollars in funding, mentorship and equipment support to help photographers and creators bring ambitious projects to life. So it's a competition. The there'll be five global winners and 10 regional winners for each sort of area. So in Australia there'll be 10 regional winners. Oh no, hang on, that might be in total. No, that's. Yeah, that's Local. And each regional winner will get 7,000 Australian dollars, alongside access to Fujifilm's latest GFX camera system and expert mentorship. And the entries open on the 17th of August. So if you keen on this, either Google Fujifilm GFX challenge or go to Fujifilm House of Photography in Australia or your local Fujifilm site and they'll have information there for it. But basically it's inspiring, you know, cream of the crop up and coming creators to be given a bit of a step up with some gear and some funding to create a new project. Which is great. [00:59:11] Speaker B: Very cool. I wonder if I can get. [00:59:13] Speaker A: Why not? [00:59:15] Speaker B: Well, you know, I don't have an ambitious project. [00:59:20] Speaker A: No. [00:59:21] Speaker B: And I'm not. Did it say you have to be good? I think as well. [00:59:24] Speaker A: Yeah. You have to be good. [00:59:26] Speaker B: Damn. [00:59:27] Speaker A: Yeah, there's only. What did I say? 15 global spots. [00:59:29] Speaker B: Yeah, you got to be good. [00:59:31] Speaker A: Yeah. But that's pretty much it for the news. There's a couple of other camera bits and pieces, but I think we'll pass over those for now. [00:59:40] Speaker B: Okay, let's do a couple more. So a couple more. [00:59:48] Speaker A: Couple more images. [00:59:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:50] Speaker A: All righty. Where are we up to? We're up to the halls. [00:59:54] Speaker B: My hall. [00:59:55] Speaker A: All right, [01:00:00] Speaker B: go for it. I'll bring it up. All right. [01:00:01] Speaker A: Maya Hall. On an episode of the Camera Life podcast earlier this year, Grant Swinburne mentioned how you cannot get an original shot of the Opera House. John and I have taken this on as a challenge. This shot is a double whammy. What is that? Oh, wow. This shot's a double whammy. Vivid and the Opera House. So on our first atmospheric night at Vivid, we'll see John's photo from last week. My opera house shots were duds and I was determined to give it another go. The Opera House forecourt was feral, but a bit further around, you could capture interesting shapes, close ups, and it was a lot more civilized. I have another double whammy for next week, but I respect the rules. Good on you, Maya. I am so inspired by the viewer shots. The podcast has an amazing creative community. Does indeed. I look forward to meeting some of you at Beef up this year and hope there'll be a Camera Life podcast get together. [01:00:58] Speaker B: Oh, there will be. [01:01:00] Speaker A: Yeah, there'll be something. There'll be something. There'll be lots of things. Lots of things. Thank you for a great show. I feel very organized sending this in the day before. And I have planned my podcast viewing menu for tomorrow night. Meaning tonight. A chicken vegetable tent. Tajin. We can eat on our laps. Look at that. Perfect meal time around us. [01:01:19] Speaker B: So good. I hope you enjoyed dinner. And this is a great shot. It looks like a. It looks like a fish. [01:01:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:28] Speaker B: Am I there? Like scales and beautiful colors and the. Just the shapes and stuff. Yeah, I love it. [01:01:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, it's very cool. It's almost abstract, isn't it? And it's. [01:01:41] Speaker B: Yeah. I'll see if I can make it just a tiny bit bigger. There's a ton of detail there too. [01:01:45] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't think we got camera settings this time. [01:01:50] Speaker B: Yeah. All the people and stuff. I'll have a look if it's in my access here. [01:01:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:56] Speaker B: No, yeah. Great image. Good double whammy. And good job taking up the challenge of not being able to get an original shot of the opera house. I love that. [01:02:05] Speaker A: Yep. Indeed. [01:02:07] Speaker B: Thank you. [01:02:08] Speaker A: Amazing. [01:02:09] Speaker B: And the next hall. [01:02:11] Speaker A: The next hall is John Hall. Hi, Justin, Greg and everybody, firstly, I didn't make it to the end of the live show last week, so I'd just like to say thank you for all the compliments about my image. There are some very talented photographers in here, so to get such positive feedback is very encouraging. It's inspiring to see so many great images sent in each week and such variety too. And so to tonight's image. We're heading off to Hobart next week for a few days and I've been looking through some of the photos I took last time we were down there. The one. [01:02:49] Speaker B: Is, did everyone else lose Greg or just me? [01:02:54] Speaker A: Oh, [01:02:58] Speaker B: Greg. Nope, he did go. Okay, he's coming back. All right. It is. Everyone lost Greg. Okay. So it's not just me. All right, well, we'll see if we can get him back in and I'll continue. I'll continue reading this out while he's gone. Okay. Where was he at? The one I've chosen for tonight is of Secret Falls. Obviously I can't tell you where it is because he a secret. What I can tell you is that we've been exploring Mount Wellington and on the way back, back to town did a short walk just near the Cascade Brewery. The Myrtle Gully track is a short, pleasant walk of a couple of hours, made all the more interesting by doing it with a torn Meniscius. Ouch. So every step was a new experience in pain. Fortunately, upon our return to the hotel, I was able to self administer some pain relief for my knee in the form of a few excellent local whiskies. This is a shot with a Nikon D7500 with the Nikon 18 to 300. 3.5 to 6.3 at 22 mil F16, 25 seconds, ISO 100. I think I used a 4 stop ND filter as well. Yeah. That is a beautiful shot and I love that you got an all like a. What do you call it, like a walk around lens. 18 to 300. You can do everything with. With it. You can go, yeah. Wide like this for landscapes, waterfalls, long exposure. And then you could punch in on a bird or. Yeah. Wildlife, whatever. It's. That's a great option. What are they saying here? Oh, everyone's here. Oh, no. Greg. Control, alt, delete. We lost search party. Yeah, this is a beautiful shot. I wonder if we could. If I can enhance. Let's have a look. Ah, look at the detail. And that wispy water. Well done. Couple of crackers sent in by you guys. Absolutely amazing. I'm just gonna boot Greg out of the studio so that he can actually come back. How do I do that? Can't even do that. Remove. There. He's gone. See if he's got the cat. The cats have got him. He's got seven in his house at the moment. It's crazy. Felicity Johnson says, I love how the ferns lead your eyes to the water. Yeah. The way that they're draping in from the sides and there's just. There's enough darkness in the shadows. There's a little bit of detail in there, but they're so dark that it just. It has mystery in the shot. Still really well framed. Craig's still back as a black square. Now we'll just let him struggle away in the background. Parabellum collectible says, love this image. Got some at. How do you say that? Shiraito Falls in Japan, but I don't think they're anywhere near as good as this. I'm sure they're good. I'm sure they're good. Yeah. Amazing work. Phil Thompson says, what a wonderful moody image of that waterfall. Love the lighting on the ridges. Yeah, yeah. All really, really cool. Bruce Moyle says you're dodging the dark mofo crowds by coming down next week. So that means dark mofo's over soon. End of this week. That'd be cool. I don't like crowds, though. What was I going to talk about before? What do we just go on to some other images? But someone had a comment up here. Tintype man's been trying to get a bargain secondhand like it for the past couple of years, but every time I bid on a bargain, it seems to go at auction. For 55,000 or more. Yeah. Some of the latest ones are just insane. Oh, so the X. The X half. I saw an X half on Facebook Marketplace. I sent it to Greg. I'll talk about this while he's off the show so he doesn't get sad. I sent it to Greg and. Was on site on Facebook Marketplace reduced from 700 down to 500. 500 Australian dollars for an X half. I think they've been out for, what, 18 months or something, and I think they were 1250 new. I was like, oh, that's. They just didn't hit. They didn't hit like the X100 did. This is a shame. Let's send. Let's send Greg a text. Text. Fermi's got the X half. Do you like it? Do you shoot it with it much? I think they were a cool camera. I think they just. I think maybe they went too hard on the price, I think for the feet, like, for the image features that it has. I don't know, but I'd be interested to know what you reckon, Greg. What should we write to him? Are you okay? Laughy face. All right, let's have a look at some other images while he's still, still struggling. Let's go to Felicity Johnson. Where's Felicity's photo? Here. Ta da. Felicity says hi. This is a photo. Let's make it beer. This is a photo of an Australasian grebe photographed in the lagoon at the Bendigo Botanic Gardens, which has a very dark and still water, perfect for reflections. Nikon D780 with the 180 to 600 at 600 mil. Wow. It's 600 mil. Gosh, this thing. This is sharp. Sharp. Let's zoom in. Look at that. What a beautiful image. And that. Yeah, that reflection is perfect. I know exactly what you're talking about. That place in the Botanic Gardens, it's not a very pretty location, I don't think. Are you okay, Greg? [01:09:27] Speaker A: Yep, all good. Can you hear me? [01:09:29] Speaker B: I can. I can hear your microphone noise, but, yeah, I can hear you. Don't touch it. What happened? Do you know? Or did it just. [01:09:40] Speaker A: I could see you guys. I could see everything you were doing here, everything you're saying, but you obviously couldn't see me. [01:09:47] Speaker B: No, you went black and quiet and then I couldn't even get you out of the studio. That your black, black square? Yeah, it was just stuck. [01:09:55] Speaker A: I couldn't get out of it. I had to just restart. Chrome. [01:09:59] Speaker B: Strange. Parabellum Collectible says, amazing image. Great reflection and focus. Yeah, the focus is dead on. That is nuts. And it is fluffy. It's got fluffy little feathers. Yeah. Crazy. I was sorry, Greg, but I was just telling a story about. I sent you that Facebook Marketplace listing for the X half, didn't I? [01:10:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:24] Speaker B: You saw the price. [01:10:26] Speaker A: I can't remember what it was. [01:10:28] Speaker B: 700 reduced down to 500. Yeah, yeah. That's just. Fermi's got one and mainly uses it as a gimmicky camera to my R6 Mark II. Yeah, I like they definitely. I think they were definitely a camera that needed to come out, but I just, I reckon they just missed the mark on the price. I wonder if it had been 8.95, you know, sub. Sub $1,000 or something and it just put it straight into that and then it's, you know, it's on sale for 750 every now and then or something and it just puts it in much more accessible price range. I don't know. [01:11:06] Speaker A: Yeah, I think the price for what it was. The price was way too high, you know. [01:11:13] Speaker B: Yeah. They needed to lean into image quality more and then, then it could have been a fifteen hundred dollar camera if [01:11:19] Speaker A: they'd done better image quality. Yes. But if they'd kept it the way it is, you know, they should have treated it almost like one of their [01:11:25] Speaker B: Instax, which are premium Instax. Yeah, the. The top end, you know, kind of thing. [01:11:31] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. But it was just, it was just way too. It was way too expensive. Because when you compare, you know, we did this. When you compared what it cost and what it offered versus the next offering from Fujifilm. Fujifilm. Even the gap between the two in terms of performance and ridiculous. You know. [01:11:56] Speaker B: What do you think of this photo that Felicity took in a. In what. What she said is a. The lagoon at the Bendigo Botanic Gardens. It's basically like a really dark puddle pond. It's like gloomy in there. I can't believe this photo was shot there. It's. [01:12:13] Speaker A: Well, I mean, I can. Felicity seems to have proven that she can take a. A photo of anything and it will just turn into a masterpiece. So I'm not surprised. But it's a gorgeous shot. The shot, the. The sharpness of the. [01:12:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:27] Speaker A: Even just from here, the sharpness through [01:12:29] Speaker B: the Internet, it still looks sharp. [01:12:31] Speaker A: Yeah. And that reflection's just perfect. Yeah. Well done. Very well. [01:12:41] Speaker B: All right, so we've got Greg back, so we'll crack on. So tweak production said Sharper's Attack and Phil Thompson said superb reflections, detail, lighting. Felicity and she said, thanks so much. Oh, and fermi only paid 7.99 on April 13 this year. Okay, so that. So they're, they're, they're discounting them then. That's obviously why the second hand. See, maybe I should look at it like that. The second hand price is probably so low. Cause it's getting discounted new. [01:13:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:08] Speaker B: Because they weren't. [01:13:09] Speaker A: If you can pick up a new one for 500 bucks, then there's no way you gotta be paying that for secondhand. [01:13:15] Speaker B: Yeah. So if this was 799, then 500 is right on the money for a secondhand one. [01:13:20] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:20] Speaker B: You know, that makes sense. [01:13:21] Speaker A: Okay. Yeah. [01:13:25] Speaker B: Lisa Leach. [01:13:26] Speaker A: Let's talk about Lisa. So, Lisa, this week's image was taken at Calend Pond on the south island of New Zealand. It's a bit of a rule breaker. Shooting directly into the light. Nah, there are no rules. But I've always loosely translated rules as guidelines and suggestions. That's right, they are. You don't have to do what they say. I visited the ponds to capture some autumn color on the trees, but was drawn to the soft silhouetting of the bulrushes with the rising sun and the morning fog over the pond. [01:14:01] Speaker B: I love it. [01:14:02] Speaker A: Yeah, it's almost painterly, isn't it? It's almost like someone's. That's beautiful. [01:14:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Perfect conditions to shoot into the sun like that. I love it. I love that, that bright spot right where the. The arc of the overhanging branches and then underneath it, that sort of almost the pyramid of the bull rushes just leading up there. And there's just a faint detail of the other side of the trees in the distance. I love it. Beautiful shot. [01:14:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I think it's. I think it's really cool. [01:14:40] Speaker B: Yeah, the tones are really nice too. It's just subtle. [01:14:43] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it's. It's almost like it could be black and white, but it's kind of got. It's just got this overall green tinge to it. [01:14:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. It's very monotone, but it's not black and white. [01:14:55] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. [01:14:59] Speaker B: Parabellum collectible says, no rules. Johnson says, oh, that is superb. And Phil Thompson says, love it. Lisa, top shot. Nothing like foggy conditions for mood. Yeah, it's got the mood. Yeah. And tweak production says the rules. I mean, if the rules. Well done. David Skinner says, yeah, beautiful shot. And I think I might actually, I might go to my shots now for this week because that'll just further prove to Lisa that she's not the only one that shoots into the light. Yeah, because I tend to. I tend to do it all the time. [01:15:37] Speaker A: I know you do. [01:15:39] Speaker B: It's almost the opposite. It's like my rule is I only shoot towards the light. [01:15:43] Speaker A: I feel like that. I feel like that. I always avoided doing it until I met you. And then I started doing. I thought, oh, this isn't so bad. [01:15:49] Speaker B: It's kind of fun. Yeah, it's kind of fun. Why not? So I went back through the archives today just because I was like, ah, I. I want to start. So I want you guys to hold me accountable. I want to submit, I want to. I want to make sure I show an image or a collection of images every week. So if I haven't shot something recently, I'm going to dig back through the archives and find something. Might just be a photo. Today I went back through the first time I went to Bali by myself in 2017. I mentioned that I. I met some crazy people and photographed a weird skateboarder dude. I like, I went on a journey with him across the island. I photographed a band that I got to know who were really fun, shot a couple of their gigs for him just for free. And then the island has changed so much, even from 2017. And when I went there, it was, it was like, I don't know, there were still these hidden things and there still is now, but in. In Canggu, which is closer to the airport and along the beach, still seen more mysterious and hidden and like had a counterculture there. And you would, you would ride through these rice paddies and come up to a place in the dark where there's like 400 scooters parked out the front. And it was called Pretty Poison. And it was a. Basically a skate bowl venue that's only open at night. And they're like, you go in there and there's just. I'm going to bring it up. There's just hundreds of people around. There's people just sitting around drinking beer and smoking and stuff and skateboarding. And I took my cameras there. So I had my Nikon D500 with a fisheye lens and my Nikon D5 with a 20 mil and one off camera flash and a trigger and just hung out for a couple of hours. I didn't know a single person here. And this isn't a competition or anything. It's not organized. This is. This is essentially a pub with a skateboard in the back of it. [01:18:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:18:04] Speaker B: And sadly it's gone now. Like, it. Yeah, it got taken over by I think it's a gym or something. It's been redeveloped and they've moved out further a couple of suburbs, but it's not the same. This thing was. This was an icon of the area. It just had so much culture there because, as you can imagine, there's surfers everywhere and surfers skate and skaters surf. So I, Yeah, I had so much fun shooting there. And I originally processed these shots in black and white and I hadn't gone back through them since. And some of these I didn't even process the first time I went through. So some of these shots I've never, never edited. So I went back through today and I thought, oh, maybe I should try one in color. And then I thought, no, commit and do. I did this whole series. So there's no black and whites in it because black and whites is kind of my go to for this kind of stuff. So I process them all in color and yeah, this is exactly what it was like. Like, I don't know who these guys were. Yeah, I just was chatting to them and they're all just having a good time, drinking bintangs and wearing singlets. Yeah, it's pretty cool, even. What's crazy is, too, because the beers were cheap, like, there was quite a mix of locals and tourists, which isn't as common. It's common at the surf beaches, but it's not common at a lot of venues. [01:19:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:32] Speaker B: So, yeah, it just had such a different vibe to. To the rest of Bali. [01:19:39] Speaker A: Yep. And there's something about skate park culture, you know, and I've talked about it on here a couple of times from doing local skate park photos. It's just something about that community and that culture that's a little. It's a little loose, but it's a little welcoming. You know, everyone's out there just trying to do their best and trying to overcome personal goals and personal challenges. And everyone, you know, and everyone else is just there to support them and, you know, cheer them on. And it's great. I love it. Thanks. Lots of great feedback in the chat. Greg Carrot wanted to know what lens was it. You said it was a fisheye, so [01:20:18] Speaker B: I was using the D500, which is a crop with the 10.5 mil Nikon Fisheye. But I actually only use that for. [01:20:25] Speaker A: For. [01:20:26] Speaker B: I think of these only for two shots, maybe three, actually. And then the rest of them with the Nikon D5, which is full frame with the 20 mil 1.8. And then. Yeah, that's probably where I. That was really when I Started to fall in love with the 20 mil. I love this shot. This guy looked like. Like some sort of angel just flying through the. Flying through the light. So that's my flash in the background of that shot. Normally that would be a missed shot because you. I would normally just want. I would want the flash in this instance. I'd be trying to block the flash with the skater. [01:21:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:04] Speaker B: If it's. If it's so heavily in the frame like that, and it's. I've obviously just missed, but because he had his arms outstretched like that, it kind of worked for me. [01:21:16] Speaker A: I think it works. Absolutely. It works. [01:21:20] Speaker B: That. That's the fisheye on the D500. [01:21:25] Speaker A: Yeah. That works so well in this sort of shot, doesn't it? Yeah. [01:21:28] Speaker B: And that's the vibe. [01:21:31] Speaker A: Amazing. Greg Stubbing says that there's a zine in that collection and portfolio of images. [01:21:41] Speaker B: There might be. I don't have. [01:21:42] Speaker A: I agree. [01:21:43] Speaker B: I don't have the. The power to make a Zen. Though I did want to print some of these because that's the thing that I'm supposed to be doing. Yeah, I know, but it's. The stupid ink is like the ink ran out almost immediately, which they say happens because it fills up the lines. But it's really pissing me off because I know that they're like, that inks in there. And I'm like, yeah, but you can't use it unless you put new cartridges in. So at some point that printers. That ink is not going to get used. You know, at some point you can't, like, use what's in the lines unless you put a new cartridge there. So that ink will end up getting wasted. And that's bugging me. The other thing is now my maintenance tank says it's full, so I've ordered a full new set of cartridges and maintenance tank off Canon and then I'll print some of these images. So each. Each week on Mondays, I want to have an image or a set of images ready for you guys. And I'm going to print one of them at least each week as well. Just that was part. That was supposed to be the plan. And I've. I got slack, so we're getting back on it. [01:22:40] Speaker A: Yeah, it happens a lot. [01:22:42] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. [01:22:45] Speaker A: Amazing. [01:22:47] Speaker B: Yeah, it was fun. [01:22:48] Speaker A: Do you want to have a look at mine? Let's. [01:22:51] Speaker B: Let's do a couple. Let's do a couple. [01:22:54] Speaker A: Managed to find time for yours. [01:22:56] Speaker B: Let's do a couple of the crew, then we'll do yours. All right, so yours is a set and then we've also got a set from Phil Thompson. We'll break the. We'll break the sets up a little bit. All right, cool. [01:23:05] Speaker A: Up next, I think we're up to Lisa Leach, were we? No, we did Russians. Nev Clark. Nev. Nev has supplied an image of a beautiful humpback whale. I love this photo because of the underwater shot and it was slightly slower shutter speed. I was trying to create a little bit of intentional movement or blur effect with the shot. This was captured on a DJI Mavic 4 drone with a 168 millimeter f 2.8 ISO 100 at 65 meters height. What do you call that? Altitude? Elevation. [01:23:45] Speaker B: Altitude. [01:23:50] Speaker A: I love the way that the fins. [01:23:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I guess they're fins. Wings. [01:23:59] Speaker A: It's amazing. [01:24:00] Speaker B: I just, I just want to see this. I just can't believe it's. Yeah. That you. That where Nev lives, he gets to like go to somewhere and fly a drone and he's like, oh, cool. A whale. Yeah. [01:24:11] Speaker A: Oh, look at that. [01:24:11] Speaker B: That's amazing. [01:24:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:13] Speaker B: So cool. So, so cool. [01:24:18] Speaker A: It's a great shot, Nev. [01:24:19] Speaker B: I guess I love how it for a while too. You know, like you're in a drone, you can just like try different angles and I guess until it go. If it goes under. But. [01:24:28] Speaker A: Yeah, but I love the texture of the water. [01:24:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:33] Speaker A: Like the. You can see all the peaks and troughs and. Yeah. That's incredible. [01:24:39] Speaker B: Yeah. That color above the. [01:24:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:42] Speaker B: It's just beautiful, beautiful, epic shot. [01:24:48] Speaker A: Lots of lovely feedback now. You're right. [01:24:51] Speaker B: Do it different. [01:24:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:52] Speaker B: Just. Wow. And Felicity Johnson. Everyone's excited. Great pov. [01:24:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:58] Speaker B: And the whale looks like it has wings. [01:25:01] Speaker A: Yep. That's worth a print. [01:25:04] Speaker B: It is worth a print. [01:25:05] Speaker A: I believe so. [01:25:06] Speaker B: I'm sure. I'm sure. Neville print it. Speaking of printing, Bruce Moore says they only give you like a quarter of a cartridge when you buy a new printer and they need four ones for the vacuum on the lines. Is that true? Because when I bought my Epson 3880, it came with a full set, like full size set. And I thought this one come with full size cartridges as well. But maybe I was wrong. I don't know. I didn't think it come with starter cartridges. These. Because this is a Pro. Canon Pro 1100. Some of the smaller ones do. [01:25:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:38] Speaker B: But I thought the pro ones came with a full set. [01:25:41] Speaker A: Well, you would think so, wouldn't you? It's not like you're spending all that money on a printer to just print a few prints. Now test it. You know, like, it just feels. It feels dodgy. It feels like cheating. [01:25:53] Speaker B: But that's what they've always done with the smaller printers. They always gave you starter cartridges, and then they were like, oh, you want to buy a cartridge that's the same price as the printer? [01:26:02] Speaker A: Yeah, well, that's. I. My last three. I don't. I gave up buying printers because I was just so sick of the cost of ink. Yeah. Because I'd buy, like, I'd just for an office printer, not for photos, you know, just. And we'd rarely print out documents anymore. And you'd get. You know, you just get a throwaway office printer for 50, 60, 70 bucks from big W or Officeworks or wherever. And then once the ink ran out, you just waited for the next sale and just picked up a new one that came with ink. You know, like, it just. It just. It seemed like crazy that they were allowed to do that to me, but they do. I do. [01:26:41] Speaker B: Bruce says my big pro came with starter. Okay, well, maybe mine were starter ones and mate. So if the next ones last a long time, I'll be. I'll be cool. [01:26:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:49] Speaker B: Down there and want to yell at anyone. [01:26:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:51] Speaker B: Tin type man says it's Canon. They always cheap out. No, they don't. Sometimes I wish they'd invest some money in a proper articulating lens for the back. Articulating screen for the back of their pro cameras. [01:27:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:27:05] Speaker B: Imagine that'd be nice. Imagine Greg Stubbings is still printing with his 3880 will not die. Well, Jim is still printing with what was minor. Jim's 3880. I think it even started his mind can't remember 3880. And yeah, it's still going it. We had a lot of trouble with it over the years, but I think basically, since I. I haven't been using it. Jim said no dramas. Maybe I was ruining it. Maybe. But there were some times that I wanted to stomp that thing. Like that scene in Office Space. If, you know. You know how many we got left. Let's do. Let's do Greg. Greg Carrick, and then we'll do Greg Cromie just to confuse everyone. [01:27:51] Speaker A: All right, Greg, number one. Hi, Justin. Greg, Jim and all the gang. Different scenes. Ask for different treatments. Hillsville Dam. Hillsville Dam. Wall wanted to be shot monotone in a way that showed the divide made by the dam between water and valley. Yeah, that's cool. With the people emphasizing the scale of the wall. [01:28:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that's the thing. That without those people there, this shot would definitely not have the impact that it does. That scale is awesome. Wow. [01:28:26] Speaker A: Yep. [01:28:27] Speaker B: I've never been there. [01:28:29] Speaker A: Where did you say it was? [01:28:32] Speaker B: Heels or dam? [01:28:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:28:33] Speaker B: And it. It wanted to be shot monotone. Does it talk to you? [01:28:37] Speaker A: It did. It whispers. Lots of dams. Whisper. The tech was a GFX50R with the Pentax.50mil. [01:28:46] Speaker B: I love it. [01:28:47] Speaker A: I love it. I love the way that that softer gray curved line cuts through the. The frame. Just. It just gently just leads you around that. Oh, wow. It's huge. [01:28:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. That's so cool with the people on there. [01:29:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:08] Speaker B: Let's look at this. Damn, I need to go there. Wow. Great image. Is there a second photo wanna be shot? Yeah, there is. [01:29:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, he says that it's Japanese maple in the Olinda forest. Autumn colors on a. On a base of rust colored leaves with bare vertical trunks disrupting the evergreen native ferns in the background. Shot with a Fujifilm XT2 with a Tamron 18 to 300 zoom. [01:29:41] Speaker B: Another beautiful shot. [01:29:43] Speaker A: Yeah. There's a lot going on. Simple. [01:29:47] Speaker B: Yeah, there is, but it's simple because there's a lot going on. But it's. The subject is, I guess all of the trees. [01:29:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:55] Speaker B: Accentuated by. [01:29:56] Speaker A: Amazing. [01:29:57] Speaker B: The backdrop of green and rusty leaves. [01:30:01] Speaker A: Yep. [01:30:02] Speaker B: Actually, maybe the subject for me is the ground. I don't know. [01:30:09] Speaker A: For me, I'm being drawn into those couple of dark spaces in the background. That's where my eye goes. [01:30:19] Speaker B: Like there's some. What's in there? Yeah. [01:30:23] Speaker A: What's in there? [01:30:23] Speaker B: You want to know what's hiding in there? [01:30:25] Speaker A: I need to know. [01:30:28] Speaker B: Yep. But yeah, it is this. I think that's right. The pink carpet. [01:30:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:30:35] Speaker B: Red carpet of leaves. I think that's what I was caught looking at the most. [01:30:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:30:41] Speaker B: So for me that was the subject [01:30:43] Speaker A: and I. I see that too. And I think it's because it's so. Almost so perfectly flat and everything else is just kind of jutting out of it. Yeah. A bit chaotic out of it. That's a great photo. That's for sure. Love the color. [01:31:00] Speaker B: So does Bruce Moyle. Yeah. He says imagine it in fog. Yeah, that would be cool. [01:31:05] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Oh, yep. Nice work, [01:31:12] Speaker B: Greg. Chromie me. [01:31:15] Speaker A: You. That's right. When did I take these? Friday. Saturday. I can't remember. What day is it today? So I went out for a little walk. I hadn't been out for a couple of weeks. Been feeling a bit flat. Crappy. Wheeler. And I pushed myself out the door with my XT5XE5. Sorry. And the 23F2 lens, which is very compact, lightweight, and just. Yeah, I went for. Went for a bit of a walk and beautiful light came out. Some were shining. You can see in this image here. Lots of strong dark shadows and I'm leaning into image. Thanks, man. [01:31:59] Speaker B: It's a bit different to what you would normally shoot. [01:32:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I think I was caught by the, you know, the sun rays coming down and then the strong shadow falling off it. Falling off him. Yeah. Yeah. [01:32:15] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:32:15] Speaker A: It was a good walk. [01:32:16] Speaker B: Center composition and. And stuff. It just. Yeah, it looks a little different to the way. Whereas this, I'd be like. Yeah, it's a. That's a great shot. [01:32:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:32:24] Speaker B: This has got a bit of Greg on it, [01:32:28] Speaker A: but yeah, good walk. Went out again today. Did a little bit of walking, which was nice. [01:32:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm digging these. This is cool. [01:32:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I was really happy with that. She wasn't, but I was. [01:32:43] Speaker B: She wasn't. [01:32:45] Speaker A: She gave me a bit of a look. Oh, yeah. I just smiled. Yeah. Plus a smile. Yeah. [01:32:55] Speaker B: Noodle World. [01:32:56] Speaker A: Noodle World. [01:32:58] Speaker B: Noodle World. Good Melbourne dumplings. Yeah. [01:33:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:33:06] Speaker B: Bruce Moy likes the lady on the edge of the frame. So I think that would be. That'd be this one. [01:33:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Black and white earlier. [01:33:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I think because. Because there's the other lady looking the other direction and those traffic lights pointing the other direction and then you've sort of got the. Yeah, there's. There's a lot of intersecting, like, lines of the way that they're looking. I'm imagining their lines as well and it's just sort of. Yeah. Yep. [01:33:38] Speaker A: Thanks. [01:33:41] Speaker B: Through the rest of what you got, little world, more shadows, strong light. Very nice. Did you have a favorite from this set? [01:33:57] Speaker A: I did and it keeps changing. At first it was that one. The black. The black and white one. The previous one. Even though the two people are out of focus, I kind of. It was a happy accident. The. The pran skate park fence and sign and the tree and the building in the background are all tack sharp. But I just wasn't quite. Wasn't quite quick enough to get them in focus. So the camera snap focus on the back, on the fence, basically. So. Yeah. And this one was just a lonely little bus stop. [01:34:33] Speaker B: With some pigeons. [01:34:34] Speaker A: With some pigeons and some light and nice colors that are muted. [01:34:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, everyone's loving them. Phil Thompson. [01:34:46] Speaker A: Thanks, guys. [01:34:47] Speaker B: Good povs. Nathan says nice to see some street photography done in the hood. I guess that's his hood. [01:34:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think his family's still in Pratt. [01:35:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Paul Sutton says, why do I only find these at the end of the show? [01:35:07] Speaker A: I don't know. [01:35:07] Speaker B: We started them early in the show. I know. [01:35:12] Speaker A: Thanks, everybody. It was fun. It was good to get out. [01:35:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it's good. I want to see. I'd like to see you. This would be hard work, I think for you, but I'd love to see you pour through, you know, the last however many shoots you've done and really curate down to say a set of 12. Yeah, a set of 12 that speak to you in some way or tell a story or just your 12 favorite images that work together as a set. Yeah, some way over the last two years, you know. [01:35:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I agree. And actually it's been on my mind. I'm working on a couple of projects at the moment. One that Justin, I spoke to Justin about earlier today. Just working through some ideas that I've been having, but more on that in another day. But I also thinking about maybe doing a book on the streets of South Yara. Just creating a bit of a, you know, a bit of a, A stamp in time of. This is what I've seen in this area. You know, we went to that on that beef up day last year. Was that last year or the year before when we had that whole day in the city and then we went out to Croydon camera house. [01:36:23] Speaker B: Oh yeah, yeah, [01:36:27] Speaker A: yeah. What was that street photographer's name? Was it Rennie Ellis that we saw in the, in the state library? You know, to me that very much similar area, South Yarra, Paran, Windsor, St. Kilda, his body of work covered that and that was just a bit of a snapshot of that moment, that, that kind of period in time in the area. And you know, sometimes I, I kind of think what, what is my not legacy? I'm not trying to be arrogant about it, but what's my contribution to documenting my local neighborhood, the place where I live and love, you know, where I've raised my kids and, you know, all that sort of stuff. And I think maybe this is just my opportunity to create something. It's just a bit of a snapshot of time for this area, you know, and I haven't done a photo book for age. It's not for years, not since like my last trip to Japan. So I thought why not put something together and see how it feels and [01:37:26] Speaker B: you know, or at least start putting something together that, yeah, that would be it and doesn't need to be over. Maybe it won't be over for Years. But if you have. If you've got this set, you know, that you've pulled down to, like. Would this go in the book? Yeah, I think that that would be a pretty cool set of images to have. [01:37:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. Just got to get my. My Lightroom catalog fixed. But you're going to help me with that too? [01:37:53] Speaker B: Yeah, we can do that. [01:37:54] Speaker A: Yep. [01:37:56] Speaker B: Paul Sutton says the notifications to Find Alive. Well, are you subscribed? I mean, if you're not, it's time. [01:38:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Come on, mate. What are you doing? [01:38:06] Speaker B: I'm sure you are, but no, I don't know. Just. Do you want me to text you when we're about to go live? Every time. Send me your phone. [01:38:13] Speaker A: Personal. That's how far we take our service delivery. [01:38:16] Speaker B: That's how far we go. Nathan says my parents grew up in Prahran and there's photos that Rennie took of kids hanging out the front of milk bars that went to school with Mum. They always pop up when she has school reunions. Wow. That is. [01:38:29] Speaker A: That's very cool. [01:38:31] Speaker B: Insane. [01:38:32] Speaker A: Yep. [01:38:33] Speaker B: So cool. [01:38:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Because he had a studio in. On Greville street in Prahran, just down the road from the Pran train station. So. Yeah. I don't know. See what comes. [01:38:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Phil Thompson says it might sound a bit morbid, but I've got a folder of my favorite images portfolio for a slideshow at my funeral [01:38:58] Speaker A: planning. [01:38:59] Speaker B: That comment came from my a. 10 years in the funeral industry. Wow, that's. That's really cool. That's very cool. That makes life a lot easier for people and allows you to share some of the images that you've. You've taken. I think that's actually a great idea. [01:39:15] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:39:16] Speaker B: If only we were all so organized. But, yeah, I do often wonder that, like, if I could just show someone 10 or 20 images that. That I've ever taken to be like, well, this is the sort of photography I did, what those images would be and why haven't I got that? Because once you've got them there, you can just add to it. [01:39:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:39:36] Speaker B: You know, you only have to do that. That hard work once you. And then you've got this folder and you're like, okay, is there anything from 2026 that's worth putting in that folder kind of thing? This. This kind of best of the best of the best. [01:39:50] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:39:52] Speaker B: Of the literally millions of images that I've taken. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:40:01] Speaker A: Imagine, like, trying to whittle it down to just one photo a year. That would be tough. Yep. [01:40:11] Speaker B: That'd be Tough. All right, let's roll on because we've got the next one coming up from the man himself. [01:40:19] Speaker A: Yeah, Nathan Coot. No real title to the image, but other than that it was a recent photo taken on the way to Wangaratta for a school photo gig. There were three of us and we all decided that going the back way through Bonnie Doon, there's another castle reference, was way more fun than going straight up the Hume. Indeed. A few weeks earlier, I'd planned on coming to this exact spot to take a similar photo as the water levels of Lake Ilden at Bonny Doone Bridge were incredibly low. Just this time when we were driving, we were hit with this insane beam of golden light, a golden hour light. I'm not one to chase really good light. If it happens to be there when I'm out shooting, then great. But otherwise you work with what you got. P S. Don't worry, Greg, it's all taken with a Fuji. Good idea, mate. Fujifilm XT30 Mark II and the classic 18 to 55 kit lens f 2.8 to f 4. [01:41:19] Speaker B: Very nice, very nice. Tin type man says, straight to the pool room, tweak. Production says, ah, the Serenity. Johnson says, the Serenity. [01:41:29] Speaker A: Nice. [01:41:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a. It's a cracking shot. I've driven over this bridge many a time and. Oh, that the. The low water level combined with the light is just such a. And. And that ominous sky. [01:41:44] Speaker A: The sky, yeah. [01:41:46] Speaker B: Makes it slightly more ominous is the two power line towers in the background. Background. It just has this bizarre mixture of beautiful light and kind of things aren't quite, quite right in the world at the same time. Like it's, it's. You know, there's this. The sky and the lack of water and those power lines sort of set this scene for. I don't know. [01:42:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:42:14] Speaker B: It's also almost end of the world. Yeah. [01:42:17] Speaker A: End of days about something apocalyptic. [01:42:19] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a wonderful too. [01:42:22] Speaker A: And the contrast in lighting is just gorgeous. [01:42:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:42:26] Speaker A: And I know that, you know, that's the sun doing that and the clouds doing that and the landscape doing that, but you've got to be there to capture it. You've got to frame it up. You got to see it first. [01:42:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Yes. [01:42:37] Speaker A: Amazing. Really cool. [01:42:41] Speaker B: Really, really good. [01:42:43] Speaker A: Lisa says, my old stomping ground. Ah, just two weeks ago. She's moved now, but my favorite location. And David says, hey, that's my new kit. Nathan, what year at the weir [01:42:58] Speaker B: is it now? I think, yeah, like. Like recent, I'm pretty sure. But I could be wrong. [01:43:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:43:05] Speaker B: Phil Thompson says love the bridge shot. The warm lighting against those storm clouds. Magic of the moment. [01:43:11] Speaker A: Yeah. Well done, mate. Cracking shot. [01:43:14] Speaker B: All right. [01:43:15] Speaker A: Alrighty. A bit of Bruce Small here. No, that's not Bruce. [01:43:24] Speaker B: I'm just trying to make it. Yeah. [01:43:28] Speaker A: Oh, what is going on there? All right, let me read it. Hi, Justin and Greg and Jim, if he has turned up. No, he hasn't. Thought I would send in a fun image I was playing with the other day. It's a bodyscape using a Lauer 100 mil f 2.82 to 1 CinemaCro. The lens is purely manual and doesn't provide any data. I have no clue what it stop it was at but the ISO is 320 and the shutter was 1 160th. The non art statement with this one is as follows. Baron was the thoughts of the individuals that walked the land. Aimless movement with no sympathetic, sorry, synaptic response attached. Can you see the drones, the workers, the army of nothing. Why do they march with no real goal? When will the generals release them or give them the orders? But I guess it's hard when they are as blank as the hive they control. That's deep, Brucey. [01:44:27] Speaker B: That is deep. [01:44:29] Speaker A: That is very deep. I love it. Once again, this is probably complete nonsense, but it is fun to try writing. I think you nailed it. You're loyal and often sarcastic supporter from Tasmania and we wouldn't be the same without you, Bruce, to be fair. But I love this shot and I love bodyscapes. [01:44:52] Speaker B: That's so cool. [01:44:54] Speaker A: Are they buttocks? Is that what I'm looking at? [01:44:58] Speaker B: I don't know. It's like one of those tricks where you think it's a button. It turns out it's like the. The this bit, you know? [01:45:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:45:06] Speaker B: Elbow. [01:45:09] Speaker A: This was shot with the Sony A7. RV. [01:45:15] Speaker B: Is so good. [01:45:17] Speaker A: Yeah, it's amazing. Tintype man. Is it upside down this week, Bruce? [01:45:24] Speaker B: It's hard to know. I love it. [01:45:27] Speaker A: Yeah, it's great. Just. [01:45:35] Speaker B: It's just stomach. [01:45:38] Speaker A: It's a stomach. [01:45:40] Speaker B: And Lisa Leach called it. Yeah, Lisa Leach called it as My money is on the. On a belly. I think they've been belly folded shot. Phil Thompson says this show is deep, Bruce. You should write a book with that literary art form. Great shot and textures. [01:46:00] Speaker A: Is that throwing shade? [01:46:02] Speaker B: I can't tell tones for days. Yeah, the tones I need to learn how to process. [01:46:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't, I don't. I can't. I don't have that. I don't no, it's amazing. [01:46:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd love to learn. [01:46:16] Speaker A: I think I'm too impatient with editing. [01:46:18] Speaker B: I don't use Photoshop. That's my problem. [01:46:20] Speaker A: Well, I don't either. I don't use Lightroom, but I just slap on one of my presets and, [01:46:25] Speaker B: you know, off she goes. [01:46:29] Speaker A: Amazing. And Bruce says throwing shade is fun. Yeah. [01:46:34] Speaker B: Hobbies indeed. [01:46:37] Speaker A: Amazing shot, Bruce. [01:46:41] Speaker B: I think we're up to the. David Skinner thinks they can see a pimple. Oh. Apparently with simple editing, Lightroom can do this. Oh, cool. Nice last set for the night. [01:46:57] Speaker A: Yeah, this is Phil Thompson's. Somewhat on time indeed. Let me read this out. These are just a few shots from my visit to Adventure Park's Winter Glow Festival on Saturday evening. With all their lighting installations, rides and activities, it is a veritable feast for the eyes and paradise for photographers. It is just a wonderful experience all around for all the family with all the activities, progressive thinking of the owners and welcoming attitude of the staff and atmosphere that they have created over the years as there are a number of them. Please just choose whichever you feel are best, depending on what time you have. All images were shot on the Pentax K1 Mark II cameras with both the 7200 lens and the 28 to 105 shutter speed varies 1 130th to 1100 apertures, F5.6. [01:47:50] Speaker B: Sorry, it happened again. [01:47:52] Speaker A: Sorry, guys. Wow. F5 point. You know what it is? I didn't have a daytime nap today. It's catching up on me. [01:48:01] Speaker B: The cats, they did. [01:48:03] Speaker A: No, I had two coffees. That was my mistake. Adventures F 5.6 aperture. Sorry. 5.6 to 16. ISO 1600. 6400. Once again for the great shows. Well, Phil, I flip that back to you and say thank you for making the show great by being involved and sending in your images. I love this one with the is. It's a dragon, isn't it? [01:48:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Great. [01:48:27] Speaker A: Very cool. [01:48:28] Speaker B: Nailed the exposure there. Without, you know, like, nothing's blown out. This color in all of that, all of the light. Well done. [01:48:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:48:35] Speaker B: It's on fire. [01:48:37] Speaker A: Yeah, but that's amazing. Just. [01:48:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Just so much fun. And then the. Yeah, the colors of these. [01:48:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:48:44] Speaker B: Like the tones. [01:48:46] Speaker A: Yeah, That's a great set. [01:48:51] Speaker B: Yeah. It just looks like a party. [01:48:54] Speaker A: It does. I love that one especially. And the one to one crop is perfect. [01:48:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. I think I like that. This one's sort of similar. It's. It's slightly crooked, though, which is maybe messing with me. Oh, is it? Or am I dreaming. But the tone of the sky against that pink. [01:49:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:49:14] Speaker B: It's got some sort of nostalgic feel that I just can't. Yeah, that one. [01:49:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:49:19] Speaker B: The color of that one is so on point. [01:49:22] Speaker A: Yep. Amazing. What a great photography experience. [01:49:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Just get to everywhere you point your camera, there's a subject. Yeah. [01:49:34] Speaker A: But things are moving. Things are on water. Sometimes it's, you know, like, obviously this is during the day or late afternoon, and then it goes full dark, you know, it's such a great experience. [01:49:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Great work. Thank you for sending the set in. I know I could have picked some, but I thought we. We had a couple of sets tonight, so why not? Yeah, why not? [01:49:54] Speaker A: They're amazing. Thanks, Phil. [01:49:57] Speaker B: Yeah, thank you. [01:49:58] Speaker A: Great work. [01:50:00] Speaker B: Rodney Nicholson says. Fantastic. Phil. David Skinner, too. Very cool. [01:50:07] Speaker A: Yeah. So just a reminder, folks, if you want to have your image appear on the camera, life's your images section. All you have to do is send your image or images through to justinluckystraps.com please. If you can, change the file name of each photo to your name and then like, you know, 0102, if you're setting in multiple, don't forget your. To include what camera and lens you shot with, your camera settings, but also what was your experience? Where were you? What was happening? Why were you there with a camera in your hands? Let us know and we will bring up your images each week on the Camera Life podcast. Random photography show. Yep. [01:50:48] Speaker B: You can, you know, if you're not live, you can always just send them in and then watch it back later. But if you are live, you know, jump in the chat if you have any questions about your image, like the way you process it or something like that, or you weren't sure about the crop or whatever, or the settings you used, we can give some input. But the chat will give input too. There's. There's wizards that hang around in our chat. So, yeah, feel free to ask for help if you want any, or feedback if you want any or otherwise, just send them in. Because you just want to share your photo and can't be bothered just putting it on Facebook anymore or Instagram or those old things. But, yeah, otherwise, that was a fun show. [01:51:25] Speaker A: Yeah, it was a fun show. Little bit of news, little bit of images. Lots of images, actually. [01:51:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:51:34] Speaker A: Yeah. And some good discussion about buying and selling secondhand gear. [01:51:39] Speaker B: Yeah, I gotta decide what I'm gonna sell, like. [01:51:42] Speaker A: Yep. [01:51:43] Speaker B: My R3. My 15 to 35. 2.8. My 50. 1.2. [01:51:49] Speaker A: Oh, that's half a liker. [01:51:50] Speaker B: There. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. [01:51:54] Speaker A: Yep. [01:51:54] Speaker B: Oh, you like the. [01:51:55] Speaker A: I see what you'd like. [01:51:56] Speaker B: You like the format, Bruce? I think I do too. I think. I think we'll just start. Start rolling through some images from 8pm at every show. I like it. Split it up a bit and then we'll just. If we get distracted, or we might even break the news up a little bit into a couple of chunks in between images next time or something and just see how it goes. Oh, yeah. Earlier, Greg, they were talking about your Tamron podcast. Greg was on the Tamar on podcast. [01:52:22] Speaker A: I was. [01:52:24] Speaker B: Lucinda says everyone go listen to Greg on the Tamron pod after this. I haven't watched the episode yet. [01:52:30] Speaker A: What? [01:52:30] Speaker B: Oh, no, I didn't. I actually, I. I was like, I'll listen to it on the weekend after you sent it through. And then I forgot. Forgot all about it. It doesn't come up in my recommendeds or anything. I have to check what's going on there. [01:52:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, if you hit podcast, you hit the subscribe button and tickle the bell icon. [01:52:49] Speaker B: Well, maybe. But yeah. People were commenting earlier about your. Your podcast. They said it was great. Can't find it. It's in the chat somewhere. But you guys have been chatting up a storm tonight. I can't even get back far enough to track it down. [01:53:04] Speaker A: So the Tamron podcast thing was fun. So it was with Joe Orchard, who we interview, or we didn't interview him. He came and hung out with us on a Monday night one week a few months back. And so Joe works for Tamar Australia and Blonde Robot and I went down to there. Their studio, their office. Amazing building. It's like an old tram depot building. It's been renovated and just here in Melbourne. And yeah, they. We just sat down and started chatting and I felt so nervous. I felt like I was not answering questions properly. I felt like I was like all over the shop. But I did put a plug in for the Camera Life podcast. [01:53:43] Speaker B: Yes. I think we've got more subscribers than them, so. But good job. [01:53:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm pretty happy with that. [01:53:51] Speaker B: That's. It's nice that they're so happy to work with stuff like that. Like that. He wanted to come on our podcast and crisscross over and talk about whatever. It's good. I think they do it. They're putting resources into the photography world rather than just distributing lenses to stores. You know, like, they don't have to do a podcast. They don't. They don't have to do anything. Yeah. They could just get Tamron lenses and sell them to stores, but they're actually trying to contribute, which I like. [01:54:21] Speaker A: Yeah. And so, as it turns out, I'm being interviewed again tomorrow. [01:54:27] Speaker B: Oh, yeah? [01:54:28] Speaker A: Yeah. Grant Swinburne, landscape photography World. I don't even shoot landscape. That's how Kenny is. [01:54:35] Speaker B: You could start doing beardscapes like Bruce does bodyscapes. You could do beardscapes. [01:54:42] Speaker A: Well, I've got some tummy folds, so if Bruce ever wants to, you know, photograph my beard and tummy folds. Yeah, maybe. Maybe we'll just. We'll find a moment. But no, it was a good experience and I'm glad I did it. I was very nervous. I'm glad I did it because, you know, I. It's funny, I, you know, I feel like quite an introvert. I'm quite a shy person. I don't like seeing myself on camera. I don't like hearing myself talk. You know, that whole recording thing. And even though I run a photography podcast twice a week with you, but. But no, it was great. It was. It was a great experience being on the other side of the interview process. It's interesting to see someone else's technique. So, yeah, it was good. [01:55:32] Speaker B: That's awesome. [01:55:33] Speaker A: Yeah, thanks. [01:55:34] Speaker B: Tweet, Tweak said, when's Justin going to be on? They did invite me and it was in the lead up to leaving for Bali. I think that was like, recording and it just. It wasn't happening. But I'll. I'll loop back around and let him know that if he still wants me, that I am indeed available because I, you know, on the big list of podcasts that I'm scheduled for, I'm sure I can squeeze them in. [01:55:57] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:56:01] Speaker B: Tintype man says. I've done lots of media training, Greg. If I've learned anything, you always sound better than you think. [01:56:07] Speaker A: Thanks, mate. So, thank you. [01:56:12] Speaker B: Bruce says Friday night, stage your tummy, your beard, his camera. [01:56:16] Speaker A: Yeah, why not do it? [01:56:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:56:21] Speaker A: All right. [01:56:21] Speaker B: Should we put a. Put a pin in this thing? [01:56:24] Speaker A: We should put a pin in this thing. But just before we do, just a reminder to everyone out there, if you're new here and this is your first time watching, or maybe you've been watching for a little bit, but you don't, you know, you're a bit shy about commenting. This is a very safe space for you to talk about our shared craft and love of photography. But if you are new here, please give us a like. It helps us out a lot. It lets YouTube know that we have some content worth sharing with other people. And that's how we get known. But also make sure you subscribe, tickle the bell icon and change it to all notifications so that you'll get notified in your time zone of every Camera Life podcast coming up. Now, for those of you here in Australia, we go live Every Monday evening, 7.30pm Australian Eastern Standard Time, the random photography show which you've just witnessed and been a part of. And then every Thursday morning at 9am Australian Eastern Standard Time, we interview an amazing local or international photographer and unpack their story and learn about their journey, their milestones and the successes along the way. So we hope to see you on Thursday. As I said, we have no, I've forgotten already. Who's joining us on Thursday? Oh my God, it's Andy Campbell. How could I forget? Amazing astrophotographer. Sort of takes astrophotography to the next, next next level. So don't miss that one. Guys, there's a lot of great, a lot of great sites to be seen in info to learn on Thursday morning, so we hope to see you there. [01:57:53] Speaker B: Awesome. Let's indeed play the music. Tweak Production says good night everybody. Always a pleasure. And the feedback on the photos. Gorgeous photos, everyone. Philip Johnson says, good chat, gents. Good night all. By the way, 15 weeks to be FOP. Phil Thompson's another fun and interesting show. Thanks, guys. Format works well. Bruce Moyle says great show as always. Thanks everyone. Tintype man. Thanks, David Skinner. Thanks. Tweet Production says that streets are on land. Greg. So you're all good for the landscape podcast? Who else? Nev Clark also liked the split format. It was loose. Yeah, I think. I think we'll stick with it. You came over very well, Greg. Greg Stubbing says great stuff, gents. What else? Who else was around? Lucinda Goodwin says fake fan. I don't know what that means. Oh, tin type man says the format works well too. Everyone thinks the format well, I love it. The lie. Perfect. [01:58:52] Speaker A: Okay, thanks guys. [01:58:54] Speaker B: It's unanimous. We're sticking with it. Yeah, thanks everyone that joined us. If I didn't read your name out, I'm sorry, but I love you. Rodney Nicholson, Parabellum Collectibles. We'll see you guys on the next one. [01:59:07] Speaker A: Yeah, be safe, everyone.