The Return of The Random Photography Show with Adam Edwards

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sam. [00:00:30] Speaker B: Well, good day, everybody, and welcome back to the Camera Life podcast. It is Monday, 19th October. I can't believe how quickly this month is going and of course, we're here with the random photography show. And joining us tonight, we have a special guest. We have Adam Edwards in the studio. [00:00:43] Speaker C: G'. [00:00:43] Speaker A: Day. [00:00:44] Speaker B: Well, in your studio, obviously, but. [00:00:45] Speaker C: G'. [00:00:45] Speaker B: Day. How are you? [00:00:46] Speaker C: Hello. Good. Slightly recovered. [00:00:50] Speaker B: Yeah, right, we'll get into that. But yeah, we obviously had a big weekend. Yeah. And of course the bosses here. The puff to my souffle, it's Justin Cassels. How are you? [00:01:02] Speaker A: I'm good. I'm similar. I'm like almost kind of back, but not quite. [00:01:08] Speaker B: Yeah. But isn't it interesting how. How just going away for a photography weekend can ruin you so much physically, mentally, emotionally, in all the ways. But it elevated us all very creatively, I'm sure. I certainly had an amazing time at the Bright Festival of Photography this year. This is not a beef up, unpacking or recapping. Where of course we went, we might mention it. Adam was there. Adam had a massive weekend. [00:01:35] Speaker A: I mean, we were all there. We'd be crazy not to. Not to. Yeah, you know, bring it up physically. [00:01:41] Speaker C: We're all physically there. About halfway through and then it just dwindled. The mental capacity was. [00:01:46] Speaker B: Yeah, just. We just went. Right. Hey. Followed the stream. Pretty amazing weekend. For anyone that hasn't seen any of our posts on social media, make sure you check them out. Make sure you subscribe to the Camera Life podcast here on YouTube, but also on our social media channels on, on the Facebooks and the Instagram, we'll be posting a lot of content. Our good friend Lucinda Goodwin, who joined us in Bright, has also been posting a bunch of stuff to the Lucky Socials. She's did an amazing job over the weekend. Poor kids. You know what to expect. And she got the full serve, but she handled it like a champ. I was very impressed. She's. She's good quality. Good work, boss. On bringing this into along. [00:02:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I think she was a good, good addition. [00:02:30] Speaker C: Yeah, great addition. [00:02:33] Speaker B: But speaking of bfop, let's just dive straight into an image. Hey, what do you reckon? [00:02:41] Speaker A: So? Well, just to. Just to set this up a little bit, we're diving into the your images section immediately because you guys have sent in just a trillion photos this week, I guess because we weren't around last week, so it's understandable. So we're gonna just get stuck into it. It's the first time we've done your images section. Just right off the bat. So here we go. New format. We'll just test it out. If you're new here and you're wondering what the your images section is, you. Anybody that listens to this podcast can email us an image. You email it now. This, this is a special announcement for you, Les Okey, wherever you are, please email your images to the cameralifeuckystraps.com that's the [email protected] that I. You email them in the lead up to the show. Ideally not now. Hours ago would be better and. Oh dear, he says, and then we'll bring them up live on the show and we'll talk about them and we'll show everybody and it'll be great fun. So do that if you're new and otherwise we bring up the first one. Who's the first image taken by there? Greg. [00:03:45] Speaker B: So, Kirsten Gruel, new friend. G', day, Kirsten. Hope you're watching. Hi, Justin and Greg. I hope you both traveled home safely. This is from Bright, of course, unpacked and managed a good couple of hours sleep. Still doing the sleep, still unpacking. It was lovely having a chat with you both on Sunday arvo. And as promised, here is the photo I took of you, Justin, in the driver's seat of that incredible, sexy and expensive car at Chris Benny's workshop on Friday night. Justin, feel free to print it out, put it on your bedside, and if you, if you like, I'm more than happy for you to share it on the podcast. Please promise to be kind. I know it's not perfect. This is my first ever try at panning and I have to say, Kirsten, your first ever tried panning, certainly, certainly brought a smile to all of our faces, especially Justin's. He went completely goo goo over it when he. He first saw it. [00:04:33] Speaker A: Yeah, let's just zoom in a little shot. [00:04:35] Speaker B: It is, it is a wonderful shot. [00:04:38] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it's. And, and it is tough, especially if you've never done panning before. I, I assume you mean that you're just, you're like. There's a little bit of blur around some of the detail on the car. But for a first attempt, this is more than sharp enough to look great and for me to be totally stoked with it because that's me in the driver's seat, which is very, very cool. [00:04:59] Speaker B: Give us a quick recap of that experience for you, Justin. How did it come about and what did you. What was the experience? [00:05:05] Speaker A: Well, so Chris was doing. Chris Benny. [00:05:08] Speaker B: Sorry, who? [00:05:09] Speaker A: Chris Benny, I don't know if you've heard of him, he was doing her workshop up at the top of Mount Hotham. And when I found out Chris was coming to bfop, it was definitely a workshop. I want to hopefully, you know, skulk around the background of and watch, watch what happens. And then I looked at the times and it was all sunrise and sunset and Mount Hotham is an hour away from beef up hq. We're running the stand. It was just, it was not going to happen because it would be, you know, two and a half hour, three and a half, four and a half hour, probably round trip and end up. Yeah, but then Chris said he needed a bit of a hand with some stuff if possible from somebody and then. [00:05:52] Speaker B: Did he say that though? Is that what you thought you heard him say? [00:05:55] Speaker A: Well, it's actually. No, that's actually what Nick Fletcher said because it was Nick, Nick Fletcher come up and he said, oh, Chris needs a hand. And I was like, well, I don't know if I can, I'm not sure. And then Greg and Yelena and Lucinda all found out about it and they basically booted me out of the stand and said get out of here. So I drove up to the top of Mount Hotham and then before I knew it, Chris was like, here, quick, drive this car. I was like, oh, it was crazy. It's a $500,000 car. [00:06:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's just a car. But yes, amazing. [00:06:28] Speaker A: Well, it just before anyone gets too excited, this shot. So this is when Chris was teaching people how to take panning shots. So my job was to do, I don't know, 20 or 30 laps at exactly 50 kilometers an hour. So it's not like I know this looks like I'm like sending it around some windy mountain roads, but no, this was a very steady consistent 50 kilometers an hour. And this might have been like lap 16 or something of just doing that to do a u turn 50km an hour back the other way, do a U turn and so on and so on. [00:07:01] Speaker B: How many point U turn did you do? Is it like a cautious 20 point U turn or did you. [00:07:06] Speaker A: It wasn't, it wasn't Austin Powers level, were you? No, no, it was, it was just a nice steady off. You have to come off the road onto this gravel area with all these rocks and stuff where I could very easily rip a bumper off this thing. And so I was driving so carefully, I don't think I breathed in or out the entire time I was driving it. I just held my breath. [00:07:29] Speaker B: Anyway, that's pretty amazing. Pretty amazing. And our friend Craig got to have a crack at it at the following day. Was it on the Sunday? [00:07:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Craig did a few and then someone else went up and gave him a hand. So yeah, it was, it was a team effort in. In the assistance. [00:07:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:46] Speaker A: Of Mr. Chris Benny. [00:07:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Pretty remarkable opportunity for people going to befop, you know, especially first timers. We had some incredible workshop. I mean we always have incredible workshop instructors, you know, the likes of Adam Edwards and Dennis Smith and so on. But we got some, some new people into the fold of workshop instructors this year. Chris Benny was one of them and absolutely, you know, gave it his all, which was wonderful to see. He'd never taught a workshop in his life and you know, all of a sudden he's up on the mountain with a half a million dollar car showing people how it's done. [00:08:18] Speaker A: That was the other thing this was. So I helped him out on his very first workshop that he's ever taught ever. Yeah, this was number one and he did a great job and got great response from. [00:08:29] Speaker B: Is that what you wrote in your journal at night? [00:08:32] Speaker A: I don't have a journal. Do you have a journal? You would have a diary. [00:08:37] Speaker B: I have a diary. [00:08:37] Speaker A: Dear diary. [00:08:38] Speaker B: Dear diary. [00:08:40] Speaker A: Today the cats were rambunctious. [00:08:42] Speaker B: Rambunctious cats. I love that. I love that. Amazing. And thank you, Kirsten, for sending that image. I know that you were cautious about sending it in, but I think as I replied to you, there are better things in photography than sharpness. And you've captured a moment that Justin will remember always as part of his creative journey. Getting to hang out with his. With his new best friend Chris. Benny. I'm not jealous at all. [00:09:10] Speaker C: Not jealous. [00:09:11] Speaker B: Wish you both well. [00:09:12] Speaker C: Unpopular opinion though, actually I don't think the car needs to be or even should be purely sharp. I think yeah, actually makes it feel more dynamic. Like you said, sharp. But it's boring for me. [00:09:28] Speaker B: I think it has character the way it is. [00:09:32] Speaker A: It's a very important thing is neither is right or, you know, both can be right. All can be right. All variations of amounts of blur in a motion shot like this. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Cars. [00:09:44] Speaker A: I probably always gravitate towards trying to keep the whole thing sharp just because that's what I think you get told. But that's not right. But then I've shot a lot of mountain biking and motorbike stuff with panning and I'll be happy if I can either get the rider's helmet and eyes sharp, but they might, there might be blur all over the bike and things like that. Or if I can get the bike sharp part of the bike shop, but the rider might be blurry and stuff like that. I'm happy with. [00:10:14] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:10:15] Speaker A: Various amounts of blur, so I think you're spot on, Adam. And it's like it can convey different amounts of feeling depending on how much blur you've got in the subject versus the background. [00:10:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:10:27] Speaker A: Wonderful shot. [00:10:27] Speaker B: And is it on your bedside table yet? [00:10:30] Speaker A: Well, you only just. I just saw it, so no. [00:10:33] Speaker B: Okay. You got a big printer. You could print it large and put it above the bed. Yelena would love that. [00:10:38] Speaker A: Don't talk about this printer. It still, still might not survive the week. I think I could put my foot through it from where I'm sitting, and I just might. What was I going to say? Oh, hey, here's a good comment. Speaking of which, we're live, so we've got the live chat going. We'll go through the live chat in a second, see who's in there. Phil Taylor Photog says if there's zero blur, there's no character showing. It's a photograph versus AI generation or a modeled image. [00:11:06] Speaker B: That's true. [00:11:07] Speaker A: But you can also ask AI to add a little bit of blur so it looks weird, you know, like when you get it to draft an email, then you're like, put a few spelling mistakes in there and a bit of grammar just so they don't think AI wrote it. And it's like, sure, [00:11:20] Speaker B: that's a secret. [00:11:21] Speaker A: I don't know. I've never done that, but that would be funny. [00:11:25] Speaker B: Amazing. Well, thank you, Kirsten. Thanks for sending that one in. Should we jump into another image or you want to say good day to some people first? [00:11:34] Speaker A: Let's do one more since we're on a roll with this. With this image thing. Then we'll go into the chat and also see what Adam's been up to. But also, before we do the next one, I just want to tell everyone, just in case you're wondering if you're going to send an image in, it doesn't have to have me in it and it doesn't have to be from befop, just that first one might have thrown a few people. You can send in any image from anything with anybody, and it doesn't have to be me. All right, who's up next? [00:12:00] Speaker B: Let's have a look at John Latimer's image. This should be a single image. Hey, guys. Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend away over the busy weekend with pax, which Is in Melbourne. I still managed to get out early morning to my local wetlands to sneak in some photos and not stress about the weekend. I saw rumors that there was a rare black migratory duck that can puff up its this weird goiter on its neck like a frog. Wow. That just took a turn I didn't expect. So I went to try a photo of that instead. Came across a tiger snake. One of one of the deadliest snakes in Australia. Is it Adam? You would know, being a country boy. [00:12:38] Speaker C: Yeah, it's up there. [00:12:40] Speaker A: We don't Aggressive too, aren't they Usually. Aren't tiger snakes known as being more aggressive than other snakes? Or am I just instead of like one of those things you hear? I don't know. [00:12:48] Speaker B: I'm a kid. I don't know. [00:12:50] Speaker C: They're all note ropes to me. [00:12:52] Speaker B: Yep. [00:12:54] Speaker C: No probes. [00:12:55] Speaker A: No probes. [00:12:56] Speaker B: Yep. [00:12:58] Speaker A: In the mountain biking world they get called wiggle sticks. [00:13:01] Speaker C: Wiggle sticks? [00:13:03] Speaker A: Yeah. Because if you say snake, it's a. It's a jinx. Sorry. Anyway, yeah, no, no, no. [00:13:08] Speaker B: Sorry I spoke over you. He said I'm always careful when I'm out alone and wear gators and carry decent first aid kit with me. That's. That's smart. So just a safety message for us other bird nerds. As the weather warms up, they are out and about. So stay safe out there as always. Thanks again. Hope you have a great week and catch a break. This was shot with the Sony A7R III with a 200 to 600. At 600, not getting closer to a mad snake. Side note, they flatten their body to look bigger when they feel threatened. And I kept my distance, so. Very cool. Can we zoom in a little bit? [00:13:44] Speaker A: Sure. Enhance. [00:13:48] Speaker B: So you would have been a fair. Well, that made it so. There it is. Wow. Yeah, look at it. [00:13:58] Speaker A: Very cool shot. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:00] Speaker A: I'm scared just looking at it. [00:14:01] Speaker B: Great detail. And you know, from, you know, with the 600 mil, he would have been back quite away from it at 600. So. Yeah, well done. Great frame, good composition. [00:14:15] Speaker C: Probably closer than you think. [00:14:18] Speaker A: That's what I was wondering. I don't think it'd be a long way away because that's a small. Like the head of a snake isn't big. And you think three or four meters. [00:14:25] Speaker B: Yeah, three or four meters. Yeah. [00:14:27] Speaker A: Like closer than I would like to be. [00:14:29] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure. Probably closer than three, actually. Looking at the angle, it's looking down quite a bit. So. [00:14:35] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, nicely done. [00:14:40] Speaker A: Very nicely done. Apparently danger noodle is one that I haven't Heard before, but it's come up so within like a minute. Lucinda, Craig Murphy and Tim Pates all said danger Noodle. [00:14:53] Speaker B: Wow. Never heard that. [00:14:55] Speaker A: I haven't heard that. Yeah, but I'll take it. [00:14:58] Speaker B: There you go. [00:14:59] Speaker A: And Chris Nielsen says, just remember, no snakes in New Zealand. Well, lucky you. [00:15:04] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. That's fair. That's fair. So well done. Now, before we move on with anything else, should we. Should we say g' day to some people? And then I'd love to get an update from Adam. [00:15:16] Speaker A: Yeah. About life. Who's been in the chat, who was here early? Richard Mail. Philip Johnson, as always. Fermi. Yay. We back first, like. Thank you. If you. If you're listening, just throw a like in there. Can't hurt. Yeah, Won't cost you anything. Lucinda is finally caught up on sleep. Nice. Me too. Philip Johnson says what happens at BFOP stays at beef up. Okay. Why beef up stories, guys. [00:15:46] Speaker B: None. [00:15:47] Speaker A: John Latimer. Good to see you. Paul says lo. Hello. Who else have we got here? John Pickett, Bruce Moyle. Hey, Brucie. Neil. What's up? Felicity? Lisa. Yes, the photo is in the email. I've got it. But if we haven't brought it up by the end of the show, just remind me because it's not in the folder and who knows what's going to happen. Julie Powell. [00:16:09] Speaker B: I got you, [00:16:11] Speaker A: Bruce. Dammit. I always forget to send a photo in, but I haven't even looked at my photos from B fob. Yeah, neither have I. I don't think I took any photos. Really. I took a few at the start of Chris Benny's workshop and then when he threw me the keys, everything just went out the window. [00:16:24] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:16:24] Speaker A: There was no more. I didn't take another photo. [00:16:26] Speaker B: I took close to 5,000 shots. [00:16:29] Speaker A: You were. [00:16:30] Speaker B: I was going nuts. [00:16:31] Speaker A: You were snapping like crazy. [00:16:34] Speaker B: Everything. [00:16:35] Speaker A: The ones that I've seen popping up. I'm gonna just go out there and say it. A next level. Greg, thanks for some next next level photos. [00:16:42] Speaker B: There were some things. Thank you. Thanks, guys. It means a lot. Yeah. I really push myself. I push myself to ask people to take portraits. I push myself to getting closer, to getting in the in amongst it, you know. [00:16:56] Speaker A: Was that also because you bought a new lens that got made you. That helps. [00:17:00] Speaker B: That always helps. I know that last week or the week before, whatever we talked about that new gear won't make you better. And then the very next day I went and bought a lens at BFOP with a great discount thanks to Camera House and Fujifilm Australia. But Yeah, I was already kind of. I was already in the zone before I even got there. And I was committed to the. To the challenge to document BFOP how I see it. And I'm going to do something with those images. We'll have a look at them in a future episode of Random Photography Show. But, yeah, I've got some stuff that I'm sort of toying with, some. Some project stuff that I can use those images for. So stay tuned. Nice. [00:17:41] Speaker A: All right, who else is in the chat? David Skinner. Jason Rogers. Good to see you. Adam Edwards, Photography. Hello, Adam. And you. Oh, oh, oh, that's you. Never mind. Tristan is here. John Hall. Evening all. Wins the next befop booking party or not for a while. Yeah, let's go have another one of those for a little while. Nathan. Good evening. Are we turning this into a drinking game? No, definitely not. Definitely not. Who else? Who else? Who else? I think that's everybody. [00:18:16] Speaker B: Maybe Jason Rogers. [00:18:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:20] Speaker C: I'll tell you who's missing. [00:18:22] Speaker B: Who's missing? [00:18:23] Speaker C: Dennis. [00:18:24] Speaker B: Yeah, the Silver Fox himself. [00:18:26] Speaker A: Will he be overseas? Won't he? [00:18:28] Speaker B: Yeah, Singapore, I think. [00:18:30] Speaker C: Singapore? Yeah, Thailand. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Singapore. [00:18:32] Speaker C: Where did he go? Yeah, Singapore. [00:18:33] Speaker A: He was going to Thailand, but he might have had to go via Singapore. I don't know, actually. You don't go via Singapore to Thailand? [00:18:38] Speaker C: No, no, I mean, should listen more. [00:18:43] Speaker A: It was Thailand. He's going to bang. [00:18:45] Speaker B: He's somewhere in Asia. He'll be fine. He had a massive weekend, Dennis. [00:18:51] Speaker C: Massive. [00:18:52] Speaker B: MVP for sure. Mvp. [00:18:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Every year went hard. [00:18:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:57] Speaker A: Oh, here's a good point on the Motion Blur. Glenn Lavender says, geez, if it wasn't for unsharp photos, I'd hardly have any photos. [00:19:05] Speaker B: There you go. Yep. [00:19:08] Speaker A: Who else is here? Gosh, you guys are crazy tonight. I can't even keep up. Ms. Ames, who else? [00:19:17] Speaker C: Ironically, Dennis went so hard, he nearly didn't go home. [00:19:21] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, he nearly didn't. [00:19:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Hopefully he didn't take his keys overseas, Tim. That would. [00:19:27] Speaker B: Yeah, if you know, you know, you know, you know. Okay, well, welcome one and all. Don't forget, guys, that this is the Camera Life podcast. We go live twice a week, every Monday evening, 7.30pm, Australian Eastern Daylight Time. At the moment, we have our random photography show, which is what you're bearing witness to right now. We talk about news, we have special guests, we chat about what's going on, what we're up to, but more importantly, we look at your images. You can send me your images, we'll bring them up and we're going to chat to Them tonight we've got like over 40 images to get through. And then every Thursday morning, 9am Australian Eastern Daylight Time, we interview an amazing, amazing photographer. Might be an Australian photographer, it could be an international guest and learn about their creative journey and what makes them tick. And you can check that out in our back catalog on the YouTubes or on your favorite audio podcast platform. [00:20:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:20:18] Speaker B: Adam, speaking of amazing, amazing photographers we've interviewed in the past, what have you been up to? Busy tiger. [00:20:27] Speaker C: Yeah. Trying to recover from b fault. But just the trip home, you know, it's like 11 hours drive for me. Yeah. [00:20:36] Speaker A: Crazy. [00:20:37] Speaker C: So just raw dog that did it all in one go on Monday. So I got home Monday night and [00:20:42] Speaker A: then raw dog it like people do on planes where you just. No, no, no radio, no nothing. Just like staring straight forwards in silence. [00:20:51] Speaker C: No, no, no. A little bit of music, bit of things. [00:20:53] Speaker B: You like to sing out loud when you're. When you're on the long drive, you don't sing out loud. [00:20:58] Speaker C: Gotta look after my voice. [00:21:00] Speaker B: Right. Okay. For the real gigs, what's the music [00:21:02] Speaker A: of choice for that? That beautiful vehicle that you've got? [00:21:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a. That's an impressive truck you've got, mate. And truck is the word for it. [00:21:10] Speaker C: Yeah, I love it. I just love like modern country. So, yeah, bit of everything or 90s rock, either one. [00:21:20] Speaker B: Nice. [00:21:21] Speaker C: But I do love a good potty as well. So. Yeah, you know, something that's not photography related. Just to break the. [00:21:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:21:31] Speaker C: Like it just, it can just be too much. [00:21:34] Speaker A: I know, I know that. I know the exact feeling. You're like, yeah, I've overloaded on photography. I just need some other random topic to. [00:21:43] Speaker C: It doesn't even really matter what it is as long as it's somewhat interesting. [00:21:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:21:48] Speaker C: But the other thing I do when I travel, I just catch up on phone calls. [00:21:52] Speaker B: Heaps. Yeah, it's great. [00:21:54] Speaker C: I've got Starlink on the car, so I've got phone service WI fi calling everywhere I go and I just catch up. I spent like two and a half hours on the phone to Dennis on the way home Monday. [00:22:05] Speaker A: Oh, that's really cool. Really? [00:22:07] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, then just catch up, you know, like, because a trip like that isn't just three or four days. It's. It's weeks of prep for us guys. Like, because if you don't, you know, like, it's all about the community and everyone knows that. That's where I sit with it. But there's a, There's a level of it too, where, you know, we're there to market what we do as well. And you know, all the other guys are. So that takes a lot of prep. Um, like this year I wrote ebooks for all my courses. I, I printed and bound and took a heap of books that I've been selling there, made a whole landing page. I did pamphlets, flyers, you know, it's just. Yeah, yeah, it's like it's a big lead up. So then come back to all the other urgent tasks, which they're always. [00:23:06] Speaker B: Well, that's the thing, isn't it? Because it's not just three days of nine to five. I mean we got there on the Wednesday arvo, checked in and instantly started setting up the podcast station, you know, and it's not just nine to five, three days, it's, you know, it's like if you're doing workshops or running workshops early in the morning or at sun, sunrise or sunset, like it's a four or five o' clock start and then it's an after midnight finish and then you get up and do the same the next morning. I think that was one thing that people didn't realize about BFOP is that it's not just about doing a couple of workshops during the day. Like you are busy all day and night. [00:23:39] Speaker C: Yeah, my alarm was going off at quarter to four every day. [00:23:42] Speaker A: Yeah, crazy. You, you landscapers, I don't know how you do it. [00:23:45] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:23:46] Speaker B: Mad. [00:23:46] Speaker C: Yeah, but those, like I wouldn't have. [00:23:50] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:23:51] Speaker A: Those books that you had, the, the, the thinner ones, I can't remember which. What the topic they were on. They were like the ones I bound. Yeah. [00:24:01] Speaker C: Oh yeah. [00:24:01] Speaker A: Was it? [00:24:02] Speaker C: No. Yeah, the, like a four size one. [00:24:05] Speaker A: I can't remember. I think you got them printed. I don't know if they were the one. [00:24:08] Speaker C: Yeah, I got some done at Vistaprint, which was one of the ebooks turned into a book. [00:24:13] Speaker A: Yeah. I was thinking really good. We're talking about it for promoting commercial photography. I'm like, I reckon that so around Bendigo, like if you could just walk into a business and basically leave that with them and it's got examples of your work in it. [00:24:28] Speaker B: Testimonials. [00:24:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:24:30] Speaker A: But even just some bits and pieces about how photo shoots work and how businesses can work with you and blah, blah, blah, just like in a very visual, easy, well laid out something that they can leave with them that's not like a pamphlet or something. [00:24:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:24:46] Speaker A: Or not a business card to be like, oh, check out, check out the Instagram, you know like, you know, it's got real printed work that looks nice and. [00:24:53] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. And it needs to be something that's a little bit too good for someone to throw out. So, yeah, it's just a trifold brochure. [00:25:02] Speaker A: A little guilty about throwing it out. It lingers for at least a month or something before someone's like, what is this? [00:25:08] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:25:09] Speaker B: Hey, Adam, question for you. Given, you know, how successfully you promote your own business and given that you've got a really strong background in marketing, have you ever thought of running workshops for photographers around how to market your business effectively? Is that something that's ever sort of tempted you to step into that field of education? [00:25:30] Speaker C: Yeah, it has. I just haven't got there. Like, that's the completely honest answer. Like, I would love to. I think in that landscape, though, like, everybody wants to sell someone something. And when you. When you look at those types of selling, like a business outcome to a photographer, then, like, I take it a bit more serious than I've delivered this thing. And off you go now. Off by yourself. Whereas, you know. Yeah, it's a bit of a funny one, but definitely, like, it's. It's kind of where I lie, but there's no secrets in how I do what I do. And it's. I give more than I take. I'm, like, generous. I'm all about community. I'm just me. And I think, yeah, the best advice you could give anyone is to do that. Right. Just be you. It's easy to be you. You don't have to, you know, put a facade on every day when you go be when you're not being yourself, you know, Whereas if you just front up every day and you're yourself, then you. I heard this thing, it's called your vibe will attract your tribe. Right. And you guys do it really well. You don't. You don't put any fake version of you guys out. And, you know, every Monday night you get a great bunch of people come and hang out and talk, and that's the reality of. Of how it needs to be. It's exhausting to be someone else. So just be. [00:27:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know how people do that when they've got a. Yeah. That they've got a character they've got to keep up, you know? Yeah. [00:27:10] Speaker B: Public Persona. [00:27:11] Speaker A: Public Persona. That would be. That would be exhausting. [00:27:14] Speaker C: Yeah, it would be. And people can tell, though, right, like, from a. Yeah. Particularly if your brand is you. People are going to feel it straight away. They're going to be like, oh, something's a bit fishy here. You know, it's not the same person. Whereas, you know, you want people to have the same experience every time they talk to or deal with you, no matter what. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I would one day. [00:27:43] Speaker B: Now you've been busy with some other stuff amongst all the things you do and this is a project that's been ongoing for you. And of course, I'm talking about the. The Jordan Liberty project. Do you want to give us a quick rundown of what that is first of all and then talk about, you know, that BFOP experience of fundraising for it? [00:28:02] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. So one of my. One of my best mates here in Broken Hill sadly lost his daughter to suicide. So tragic. She was only 18. It was in 2023. And just this level of inspiration from that guy in terms of trying to turn something that's just horrific into positive and, you know, help for everyone else, basically. And initially it was going to be a documentary, you know, trying to help people have hard conversations and. And tell a story at the same time. Because Jace is a filmmaker and yeah, it's just evolved into this huge thing like. Yeah, even just the social media for it is having a massive positive impact on people day to day. [00:28:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:54] Speaker C: But the ultimate goal is to still make this. This documentary which we've been raising money for. And then I guess this snowball effect is I took the image that's in the Portrait Prize this year of Jace, and that one image kind of just, God, like to count all the things that it's done since it. It's come up because it's a heavy and hard topic, but to have like a beautiful image, but at the same time, the closer you look, the more you realize what's going on. I think it gathered a lot of momentum and attention. And then when it got selected as the Portrait Prize finalist this year, like the community around me, like my photography community and the BE community, and. And everyone was asking questions like, what can we do to help? How can we help? Blah, blah, blah. [00:29:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:50] Speaker C: And yeah, then Matt and Nick sort of agreed that we could run an art auction at the festival, which was just incredible. The instructors chucked in some work and Brendan from Cameron photo helped out with some frames and KL Australia sent me a couple of boxes of paper and I did all the printing here in the gallery and. And the rest is history. Right. We. We raised a really good amount of money and. Yeah. And then since I've been back, as you guys know, I've worked pretty hard to hold that secret from Jason for long enough. So I needed to turn it into something before I told him. And the whole idea was to try and share it with everybody in a. In a fun but nice way. And in that long drive home from Bright, I decided to do a fake podcast and turn it into a YouTube video. And I think it worked really well. Yeah. [00:30:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it certainly did. It's about a 15 minute video. Folks can check it out over on. It's on your channel, isn't it? [00:30:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:30:56] Speaker B: Yep. And I've also put the Jordan photography. Yeah. And I've also put the Jordan Liberty page in the chat if anyone wants to check it out in more detail. Amazing, amazing initiative that's going towards a really important cause. And it, you know, and. And I think the biggest part about this, Adam, for me is that this project, the image, the auction, the contribution from your fellow workshop instructors at BEFOP who donated images, you know, from their collection and money, and then ticket holders bid, you know, it. It was all a conversation. Everyone was having a conversation about it and it was sharing that. That story of the job of Jordan and Jason. And I loved the way that you framed your video that went out. It's that, you know, the power of a single image and what it has done and meant to, you know, both of you and, you know, your community as well. I think that's. That's amazing. You never expected it to get that sort of traction so quickly, did you? No. [00:32:01] Speaker C: And if you watch. Watch the video, it wasn't even the picture we're planning on taking. [00:32:06] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it was. Which I think is. [00:32:08] Speaker C: There's this. There's this thing in there, you know, that's really special is we had this brief that we'd set up to tell this really specific story and then that photo just happened. And, you know, to be able to be, I guess, conscious enough to have seen it, because we all get tunnel vision sometimes when we're out on a job and, you know, have the trust of a good friend in a really vulnerable position. And, you know, anyone who's seen that photo up close, you can tell how heavy that whole thing is. Yeah, it just happened. And then that's what I love about everything we do. But I think the acknowledgement sometimes is the things that you never, ever expect can often be like, wow, that Justin's just gone and got his print. [00:33:02] Speaker B: Oh, you bought a Bruce Moyle. [00:33:06] Speaker C: Yeah, the. The fact that, you know, that just image we didn't expect to take, didn't expect to, you know, do anything really just that it was to help Jason with some promo gear at the Australian Industry adic. Australian Documentary Industry Convention. [00:33:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:28] Speaker C: And then all of a sudden, it's just snowballed, you know, and like, it's a nice reminder that you never quite know what you'll get. So sometimes you just have to be there. [00:33:39] Speaker B: Yeah, it's, it's a. And it's also a really potent reminder of a. The power of photography and storytelling, but also the power of community, you know, especially a photographic community. You know, we're all at threat at the moment from various things, especially AI coming into our industry and, you know, challenging us once again. But the way that the, the community around you mobilized to support this project, endorse it, support it, celebrate it, share it. I've seen, I've seen your video shared by countless peers throughout the day today. Amazing. You know, it's just everyone's right behind it because it, it, it is an important story and that at the end of the day, that's what we are. We're visual storytellers, you know, and people [00:34:22] Speaker C: just want to be a part of something that's real. Right. Like you say, it's so much fake crap that we're surrounded by daily. And that might be something as simple as a superficial relationship or friendship. On social media, that is just a thumbs up every time you come into contact with someone. Or it might be that, you know, you. It's getting hard to distinguish between what's real and what's not in some cases on social media. I had a few comments and I've had a few messages on YouTube be like, that have said, like, how nice is it to see, like, a real story that's just not inflated and not, you know, full of fake crap? It's just something people can connect with. And it's a great reminder to everyone that, you know, sometimes the photography is just the nice thing to look at, but the reality is it should all have some version of a story behind it. [00:35:16] Speaker B: Yep. [00:35:17] Speaker C: Yeah. Yep. [00:35:18] Speaker B: Absolutely amazing. Well done. [00:35:21] Speaker C: No, thanks. I, I don't want any, like, good graces or thanks for it. Like, that's the thing we said before, you know, about community, like. Yeah, I'm just happy to be able to help and connect things with, you know, using my craft. I just think it's, it's really cool. [00:35:41] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna deny your request for no praise. I'm gonna say you should be proud of yourself. I am. We all are. You know, it's huge, you know, and it's not that you've owned this whole project. It's not that you spearheaded it or. But you took a lead, you took a chance, you took a lead. And only beautiful things have come from that. And I think that that itself is a really powerful statement about what we do and why we do what we do, you know, so. Yeah. Well done. Take it or leave it. [00:36:13] Speaker C: I'll take it. All right. It's not why I do it. [00:36:16] Speaker B: I know, I know. And I think that's what makes it even more powerful. So bloody humble. I'm not crying. You're crying. So where next? Where next for Jordan? How close are you to, to, you know, achieving those goals and, and, and getting this documentary underway? [00:36:35] Speaker C: It's like we're always working on it. Right. And Jace, I think I, I cut the. I need to just make a, of an audio podcast out of the conversation that we had because we. It come in for a quick five minute conversation. An hour later, we're wrapping up. So. Yeah, but it's, it's really cool because it's, we've become. Well, Jason's become really open minded about it and it's like. Well, I don't know, but I know that if I keep doing the things that are impacting people and that are working, it'll. It'll be in the next step. And we used in our conversation this photo as example. Like we did this thing to facilitate a visit to this conference. But then the thing become more than that, you know, and if you keep just fronting up and doing the things and then then who knows? Like the ultimate dream is still this documentary. And, and the big part of it is the brunt of the filming is, is based around trying to do a trip to take Jordan's ashes up to Alice Springs with her friends and family along for the ride. And, and that would be the. All of the conversations and things. And I guess that Jace hopes to do that next year, but it'll be. It's a forever project. Like that's the reality. Because one thing. Yeah. And hopefully it'll be bigger than, you know, what he created and it'll help, It'll become something that helps just heaps of people. [00:38:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Well, let's hope that it's the beacon that, you know, allows others to champion us. You know, a similar kind of storytelling endeavor. Because it isn't going to go away. You know, our kids today are under more pressure than ever. Yeah. And I think it's. Yeah, it's really valuable. Justin's just brought Up a comment from Nev. G', day, Neville. And for those people that either didn't go to BEFOP or hadn't heard about the project or people that just want to get involved, what can people do? Where can they go? [00:38:38] Speaker C: Yeah, so you can either get it at the back end of my video or you can just Google Jordan Liberty. It's jordanliberty.org and then there's a. There's a section there. How can I help? There's two. There's two ways. There's like, you can do it through Documentary Australia, which is fully tax deductible. You'll get a, you know, charity level receipt. Or if that's not very important and you just want to help in a quick and beneficial way, there's a GoFundMe as well. Because what we kind of found the documentary Australia one was a bit clunky and GoFundMe people are typically like, I'll give you 20 bucks, you know, so [00:39:15] Speaker A: you're not gonna bother claiming it or anything anyway. And no, faster. [00:39:20] Speaker C: That's it. And now all the money that we raised as a collective through BFOP will. Will go through Doc Australia because I'll have to do that because at the moment, it's all on me. So I need the tax receipt, but fair enough. Yeah. Like, yeah. And I've. I've covered all the fees and the GST and all the stuff that we've had to do because. Because of that. And yeah, the full amount will go through Documentary Australia to Jason. [00:39:46] Speaker B: Great. Amazing. Guys, I have dropped the. Drop the. The website in the chat. You can check it out. It is jordanliberty.org go check it out. Adam's image of Jason, the. The one that was nominated for Australian. For the Australian Portrait Prize. [00:40:04] Speaker C: Photographic Portrait Prize. Yep. [00:40:06] Speaker B: Photographic Portrait Prize is. Will appear front and center. Amazing. Amazing. Like I said, we're really proud of you. It's. And we felt so privileged to be involved. And obviously Justin has more money than sense because he bought a print, but good on you, mate. [00:40:20] Speaker A: Bagged myself a Bruce Moyle. [00:40:22] Speaker B: You got a Bruce. I've got a Bruce Moore up here somewhere. [00:40:24] Speaker A: John Latimer says, on a side note, who won between Dennis and Peter the Great S.W. smith vs. Coulson rivalry, which I don't believe Coulson was aware of. I'm not 100 sure where it ended up landing, but all I know is a couple of people got bargains. [00:40:43] Speaker C: And how humble is that guy? He told everyone. We told a couple of people after that the works were Worth many, many, many times more than what they went for. [00:40:52] Speaker A: I'm sure they. Yeah, well, either, but I'm sure they all were. [00:40:55] Speaker C: How amazing though is he just went. He. Here have, have these. [00:40:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:59] Speaker C: You know, custom frames. [00:41:01] Speaker B: He was another contender. [00:41:04] Speaker A: His were, his were finished. Wasn't. Whereas everyone else gave you images. [00:41:07] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. He's like, actually, I've got two that I want to bring. [00:41:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:12] Speaker C: You know, don't, don't worry about anything else. And, and like all the guys like Bruce and all of those guys, like, like I said, they didn't just donate their images. Like when I put the email out to everyone, I said, look, because I hadn't even had this planned at this point. I was like, yeah, can any, can everyone just. If you can chuck in $50 towards production costs, because I think I can sort it for that, you know, at a, at a bulk level. And even if not, then, you know, it will be a lot. But then, Brendan, you know, I had a conversation with Brandon. He's like, actually I can help out with framing. So we got handmade frames from Profile Australia. And then I was talking to Scott from kl. He's like, I'd be happy to help with paper, you know, so all I had was ink and time, you know, and, and then all of that money from the guys all just went as a cash donation as well. Which was like 600 bucks. [00:42:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Wow. [00:42:08] Speaker C: Pretty crazy. [00:42:09] Speaker B: Amazing. [00:42:09] Speaker C: Yeah. Really good crazy. [00:42:12] Speaker B: But you know, it's. It's this thing that I've come to, to realize it's. It's a cheesy term, but it's kind of the beef up way, you know. Oh yeah. It's kind of indicative of how we look after each other and how everyone's on the same playing field. There's no egos, there's no hierarchy. Everyone just leads from the middle and looks after one another. And I think it's. Yeah, it's remarkable. But side note, Peter Colson was, I think, hot contender for most valuable player of BFOP this year. First time rookie. [00:42:41] Speaker A: Never for sure. Well, [00:42:45] Speaker B: rookie, but obviously a very skilled photographer, very experienced workshop operator. He runs workshops all over the world. Quite, you know, highly sought after workshops too. But he, you know, when one of our workshop instructors became ill and Bruce made it part of his time and responsibility to look after that person. But of course that left one of his workshop spots empty for an instructor. And Peter Colson jumped in and, and said, yeah, sure, I'll do it. No worries. Okay. Never photographed a horse before, but let's let's give it a shot, you know, and he just really got into everything. [00:43:20] Speaker A: He's photographed a lot of hindquarters though. So similar. Well, same sort of lighting techniques. You know, the shadow, you know. You know. [00:43:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I get what you're trying to say. [00:43:33] Speaker A: Andrew Thompson. We were lucky enough to purchase the beautiful print from Samantha Olson. [00:43:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:38] Speaker A: Her. That sunset at beautiful colors in it. [00:43:44] Speaker B: Another beef up rookie there. Yeah, yeah. Yep. [00:43:49] Speaker C: Yeah, it was amazing. It. We could have had more, but I'm. I think we had 21 works. 20 works. And it was a nice sweet spot. Was just enough. [00:43:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:01] Speaker A: Otherwise the choice gets a lot. It's a lot to look through. You start to think, oh, which one? Or whatever. Um, and I think it was. We know it was a completely unrelated but really big positive. I thought having artwork from the instructors printed on the wall in BEFOP hq, that should be interesting. [00:44:18] Speaker C: How good did it look? [00:44:20] Speaker A: It looked unreal. I know it was a lot of work getting all of that done, but it looked great. There was some real artwork on the wall. So that if you. If there's nothing to do and you're like, I've already spent all my money it at camera house and you know, like, oh, there's a talk on stage, but I'm not really vibing the AI intro music. No, I'm kidding, Glenn. It was great. But, you know, like, it just. There was just another thing to do that was free. If you didn't want to, you know, bid on anything, you could just go up and have a look at everyone's work and they looked awesome. So. [00:44:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:51] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. Well, let's see what next year brings. I don't know whether, like, maybe we'll find someone else worthy of, you know, being the cause for the year and we might make it into an annual kind of thing. We'll see. [00:45:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so. I think so. Definitely something there to work with. Amazing. Well, thank you for the update, Adam. [00:45:12] Speaker C: Thank you. [00:45:13] Speaker B: Well, should we get into some more images? [00:45:15] Speaker A: I think through some images. I think we should just get through some. And then. And then at some point we'll just see if there's any news that's not just a new third party pancake lens that's been released. It's like they filled the gap between the 28 and the 29 millimeter. They've released 28.5 pancake lens. [00:45:36] Speaker B: Surely they're going to run out of [00:45:37] Speaker A: focal length soon at some point. [00:45:39] Speaker B: Like Viltrox TT Artisan. [00:45:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:45:43] Speaker B: What is the plan, guys? [00:45:44] Speaker A: What is the plan? I think their lens actually knew they put the road map into like ChatGPT or something and it's just spitting out just random stuff. It's like, hey, make this. People will love it. [00:45:56] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. All right, I'll get into some images up next. Beef up alumni. Sorry, we do say BFOP a lot, but it's Philip Johnson. [00:46:06] Speaker A: It's going to be next week. It's going to be banned. Philip Johnson for one week. We'll have an amnesty. It will be. Where is he? You sure he's in there? Oh, there he is. [00:46:17] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm pretty sure this time. [00:46:19] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:21] Speaker B: Philip. Greetings, gents. Great catching up on the weekend. Process this on the road. I think he said on the way to. I'm still in bright up until Wednesday. Wow. This. This was from last week. Sorry. This is from Julie Powell's film noir workshop. And the model, the wonderful Nicholas shot with the Sony A74 and a Sony 70 to 228 processed on his phone. Regards, Philip while he was on the road. [00:46:48] Speaker C: Beautiful. [00:46:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I love it. Very, very compelling. And eye catching, isn't it? Striking? [00:46:54] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Great. Great eye contact. Do you think like, is. Is part of the key to this shot that you can't see the mount like the mouth at all? The expression of the mouth. It's completely obscured. [00:47:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it is. But it's interesting that the. The angle of the Venetians, almost like a smile. Almost like an evil smile. It's. There's a lot going on. Could be. [00:47:23] Speaker A: Yeah. The angle of the Venetians. Definitely. Well, not definitely, but it kind of runs along where the cheekbone. Where cheekbone shadow normally would be, which I think is a flattering place to have it. [00:47:37] Speaker B: Yep. [00:47:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Great. Great shot. [00:47:40] Speaker B: And comments from the super coach, Julie Powell. The intrigue and mystery indeed. Well done. Woohoo, Philip. [00:47:50] Speaker A: Pro tip from Quinn Lavender. Don't edit on your phone while driving. Yeah, that's. It's a solid one. That's a good, good photo. That is the sort of tips that you will get on a creative photo workshop. All of this and more book now. Yeah, Safety first. [00:48:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:08] Speaker A: Awesome work. [00:48:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Great to catch up too, Philip. We had a couple of good chats and I actually took Philip's portrait. I've got a couple of shots of Philip that I'm pretty happy with. I've already shot them through to him, so he didn't unfriend me, so I'm assuming that's a good sign. [00:48:24] Speaker A: Maybe he's planning legal action. [00:48:26] Speaker B: Maybe. Yeah. [00:48:27] Speaker A: It takes Longer. [00:48:31] Speaker B: Up next. Speak of the devil, It's Julie Powell herself. Julie's got six images from two batches. Some are from the beef up weekends. That same. Yeah, I did that just to mess with you. That same film noir workshop. [00:48:45] Speaker A: Which one do you want to do first, the horn or the noir? [00:48:49] Speaker B: The noir ones. [00:48:51] Speaker A: Noir. [00:48:52] Speaker C: Noir. [00:48:54] Speaker B: Silly word. And Julie's commented that my private eye, which is her model, was using my vintage Olympus OM1 with the lucky strap. Strap. Check these out. [00:49:07] Speaker A: Product placement. [00:49:08] Speaker B: It just suits the vibe. Really does. Lucky straps are timeless. Go to Luckystraps.com use code. Greg. [00:49:19] Speaker A: Look at that. Real practical too, with the smoke. Didn't even buy those anymore. [00:49:27] Speaker C: I don't know whether you guys could afford them. I can't. [00:49:30] Speaker A: Definitely not. Although apparently in Greg's neck of the woods, you can get them cheap. You just got to watch out for villains. [00:49:36] Speaker B: No, they did a raid. They shut all those down. They shut about six of them down. [00:49:40] Speaker A: That's true. [00:49:41] Speaker B: They did, yeah. They did a big raid and they shut them all down. They've all been shuttered. [00:49:45] Speaker A: Where do you get your siggies from now? [00:49:47] Speaker B: Well, I don't smoke that sort of stuff, Justin. [00:49:51] Speaker A: Okay. [00:49:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:53] Speaker A: These are so cool that our camera straps in there. Thank you. Oh, speaking of which, you know, if you. If you want to support the show, head to Luckystraps.com that's what keeps the lights on. We make amazing camera straps for real photographers. Beautiful quick release system. Lovely supple leather. We're actually working on an ad that will be able to play on the podcast, which is going to be great. Lucinda's all over it. It's very cool. [00:50:16] Speaker C: Yeah. So you'll know. You'll notice also that Justin's lights are quite dim, so yeah, needs to be a few more. [00:50:26] Speaker A: It keeps the lights on. [00:50:28] Speaker B: Literally. It's like a podcast by candlelight. [00:50:31] Speaker A: I've got one very, very small LED panel that's barely on. It's on its lowest setting anyway. Yeah. Www.luckystraps.com beautiful leather camera straps made for photographers that carry their camera all day and want something comfortable that actually works. Okay, back to it. Julie's other three images. [00:50:53] Speaker B: Yes, please, please. There we go. So these are from up. Up on what mountain is this? Is this Adam the horn? Yeah, I'm a city kid. I don't know mountain. [00:51:12] Speaker A: Say, have you been up there, Greg? It's amazing. [00:51:14] Speaker B: Not for a very long time. Not. Not since I was like a. Probably a teenager or a young adult. [00:51:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Look at that cloud. [00:51:26] Speaker B: Look at the layers. [00:51:28] Speaker C: We Cloud like that here today, which is odd. Normally bluebird skies this time. [00:51:34] Speaker B: I think my screen is dirty. Are there. Are there God rays coming down? [00:51:41] Speaker A: Are you trying to wipe your screen to see if there's details chocolate on it? [00:51:45] Speaker B: I don't know how that got there. It was the cat, Julie. It was the cat. These are lovely, Julie. Thank you. [00:51:51] Speaker C: Yeah, they are, yeah. [00:51:54] Speaker B: Glad to see that you got out to do some. Yeah, photography just for you. [00:51:58] Speaker C: Some real photography. Very important landscape. [00:52:00] Speaker B: Some real. [00:52:00] Speaker A: Some landscape. Get out of that. Get out of the damn studio. Yeah, speaking of which, Lucinda said, can someone teach me how to take half decent landscape photos next beef up. I need so much help. I hear you, Lucinda. [00:52:13] Speaker C: Yeah, it's. [00:52:13] Speaker B: We'll see by next year, Lucinda. We'll have a. We'll have another sorry new person to help and you can go up and do a workshop. [00:52:20] Speaker A: Actually, I tell you what we should do. We keep saying we're going to send Greg to Japan. What we should do if we can, if we ever sell enough camera straps, we'll do a team. Team photo workshop with Adam. So. Yeah, you know Adam and Dennis. Imagine how much that would cost. Oh, we booked the both of them. [00:52:39] Speaker C: Lots of. [00:52:39] Speaker A: We go to lots of. [00:52:40] Speaker B: Hang on, hang on, hang on. All I hear is you're skimping out on Tokyo. [00:52:44] Speaker A: Sorry, Greg, plans have changed. [00:52:46] Speaker B: I've got to go to Broken bloody Hill. Same pretty much, yeah. Similar nightlife, I'm sure. But thank you, Julie. Amazing. [00:52:57] Speaker A: Yeah, beautiful shots. [00:52:58] Speaker B: Up next. Better up, my boy, Paul Carpenter with a little bit of street photography, a little bit of everything. Hi, guys. Well, and I. I say this with great delight. Greg has turned me into a Fuji fanboy. [00:53:13] Speaker C: Oh, no. [00:53:15] Speaker B: Oh, I can smell it. Took the new X100. I've got photos of Paul buying his X100. Never seen a man smile so much. Took the new X100 out one evening on the Newcastle foreshore with just a few initial settings as Suggested by some YouTube videos. Super impressed by the color and image quality, but absolutely amazed by the autofocus, which on the street appears better than my R5. Let me just say that again, Justin. He's better than my R5. [00:53:43] Speaker A: I can. I believe that. [00:53:48] Speaker B: Hang on, it gets better. Okay, Greg, he's talking. Image composition was greatly aided by a workshop I did with some rando in Melbourne the other week. I found the tunnel with the light illuminating the exit as subjects emerged from beneath the construction site. So I just waited to see what turned up. I guess I'm a chromie homie. Now I don't know if I like. I don't know if I like that one. [00:54:10] Speaker C: E. Not O. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. [00:54:14] Speaker B: Well, I mean, you know, I'm. Yeah, I have. [00:54:17] Speaker C: No, 20 bucks is 20 bucks. [00:54:22] Speaker B: That's right. Yeah. I've got to buy cameras. Amazing work. Great stuff. Yeah, yeah. Paul, look, I. [00:54:32] Speaker A: Now I have to try that camera because that is, that is one of the wildest. What would you assertation Allegations. Something. The wildest things, allegations that someone has ever said is that the X100VI has faster autofocus than a Canon R5. Glenn says he must be using the R5 on manual focus. That's possible. [00:55:02] Speaker B: That would definitely be faster. [00:55:04] Speaker A: But if it is, I mean, I know they're a very capable little camera. It's not like they're slow in autofocus. [00:55:11] Speaker B: No. But yeah. Great example of, of street photography. I'm so proud. When he sent me, he sent me this image and said. I did what you said. I found the scene, I found like, I found the light. I found the, the, the, the geometry of the area. You know, the, the repeating patterns, you know, shapes, color, and just waiting for the hero to show up. Yeah. Amazing. I was very proud. Great work, Great work. [00:55:40] Speaker A: Since he's talking specifically about eye detect, that makes it even less likely. We must test this. We must test it. All right. Yeah. All right, let's do a test. Let's do a head to head. I need to get my hands on that camera. We'll just put it through its paces. [00:55:59] Speaker B: First you need to do one of my workshops because otherwise you'll be lost. [00:56:03] Speaker A: I can't afford yours. And Adam Edwards. I have to pick one. [00:56:07] Speaker B: We'll do a street photography workshop in Broken Hill. There you go. Best of both worlds. [00:56:12] Speaker C: Good, good streets here with lots of historic stuff. [00:56:16] Speaker B: Absolutely. [00:56:17] Speaker A: It would be a fun YouTube series to do like, you know, fish out of water stuff with photographers. [00:56:24] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:56:25] Speaker A: You know, like landscape photography inside an apartment building. [00:56:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:30] Speaker C: Just full genre flip. [00:56:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:33] Speaker A: But you take these people that are highly specialized in one genre and you're like, here, try it here, see if you can do that. [00:56:40] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:56:42] Speaker C: Or maybe bfop's running so smooth now. We could just give everyone each other's workshops. That's where the car. Every morning. [00:56:49] Speaker A: Every morning you just do like the. It's like keys in a bowl, but it's the keys to the workshop location. Let me just grab you. Great. Yeah. You grab one and then that's what you're doing. You're like, oh, okay. I Guess I'm heading up. Up to Mount Buffalo. [00:57:03] Speaker C: It'll be heaps of fun. [00:57:05] Speaker B: All right. [00:57:05] Speaker A: Be cool. I'm sure. [00:57:08] Speaker B: I'm also. I'm also in support of a BFOP Instructors Professional Development Workshop. Day or weekend? Oh, separate to be. Yeah. Where just workshop instructors teach. Workshop instructors and. And admin and vendors, you know, can come along as well. Everyone gets something out of it. [00:57:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I like that idea, Greg. I like that you slipped us in there as well. [00:57:28] Speaker C: It's got to be a social thing. [00:57:30] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But two days, structured workshops, round robin. Everyone gets to teach, everyone gets to. [00:57:35] Speaker C: I actually do think it would be really good, like just to share how, you know, like you said before, Greg, like, there's not a lot of egos or competition really in that community. Community. So, yeah, why not? You know? Yeah, yeah. [00:57:51] Speaker B: We all learn. [00:57:52] Speaker C: Everyone struggles for time is always. [00:57:54] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, exactly. [00:57:55] Speaker C: That's the thing. Because then it turns into a full week. [00:57:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:59] Speaker C: You know. [00:57:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:58:00] Speaker B: Plus prep. [00:58:01] Speaker A: And especially if we have it at Broken Hill, everyone's gonna try it. [00:58:06] Speaker C: Then we could all do the 11 hour drive on Wednesday. [00:58:08] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, we'll make that a workshop in itself. [00:58:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:12] Speaker B: Road trip photography. [00:58:14] Speaker C: Do a podcast from the road. [00:58:16] Speaker B: Oh, we could do that from the van. Jim could drive and we could just be in the back on beanbags. Justin, what could go wrong? [00:58:24] Speaker A: I mean, that'd work. [00:58:26] Speaker B: Notice how I pushed Jim straight into a off camera position. [00:58:30] Speaker A: Brucie says it's been. That idea has been floated for years, but it just never happens. Yeah, it's. And because everyone's so busy. Yeah. [00:58:38] Speaker C: I think if someone took a lead too. I think that's. The other part is everyone's so busy, but if someone said, hey, if you're in, you're in, you know, you might get half people. [00:58:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:50] Speaker C: Like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll see. [00:58:53] Speaker A: All right, which. Which idea? Liesl with a the fish out of water one. Is that what you think we should do as a YouTube series? Should I grab befop instructors and other photographers that have been on their podcast, blindfold them and then just put them in a situation that they. They've never been in with photography? [00:59:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:59:12] Speaker B: I'd like to take Peter Carlson on a street photography workshop. So there's no posing, there's no models, there's no lights, there's no time to set up. Just get into it. And then he would take me on his workshop. [00:59:24] Speaker A: He'd probably be really good at it. [00:59:26] Speaker B: He probably. [00:59:28] Speaker A: I actually think first shot would be great. [00:59:31] Speaker C: I Think that that's what you would find is that people will just be really good at things. They just don't choose to do it. [00:59:38] Speaker A: What would be crazy is if they're actually really, really good, you know, because they're coming at it from just a completely different mindset, blank slate, and they're just amazing. And then you just find that you'd be just sad because they're immediately better genre than you are. [00:59:55] Speaker B: I think some people would find some surprises and delight in discovering. Oh, actually, I can do this, you know. [01:00:02] Speaker A: Yes. [01:00:02] Speaker B: Hadn't put my mind to it before. [01:00:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:05] Speaker C: Especially people who are super niched down. [01:00:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:00:10] Speaker C: You know, yeah. Like the world sees me as landscape photographer, but I also do commercial work and video and blah, blah, blah. But yeah, I think people who are like, just so in their niche that that's all they do would be interesting. And even if you could find those people would be interesting because got to keep the lights on [01:00:33] Speaker B: would be fun. Up next, let's. Let's get another batch of images out of the way and then we'll jump to some news. I've got some news to report too, about an event I went to. David Skinner is up next. Ever sent in six images. Hello, everyone from bfop. And going back up the mountain on Monday morning, all on the Nikon Z7II. First color shots, top of Mount Buffalo on Brett Woods. Layers, Sunrise, sun behind the tree. There's another first timer for bfa, Brett and Lisa. Brett Wood, Lisa Milne. They did an amazing job. And again, they fully got themselves immersed into it. They were helping out. They were doing. Everything was great. Where was I? The other shot was later as the sun was higher. There's a lot of detail here. The waterfalls were tricky on settings as it was dark to very dark and the water was very fast flowing. [01:01:31] Speaker C: I like that. [01:01:32] Speaker B: My first instinct was right on settings. And the image here was the first taken. [01:01:39] Speaker A: Oops. Oh, no. That's the end of color. And then we go into black and white. Yeah, I like this. It's good. [01:01:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:46] Speaker A: Especially you can tell that light's not know, like this is middle of the day light, I assume, or getting to it. So it's not like you're in the world's most beautiful light and you've. You've made something still made something. [01:01:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:00] Speaker C: Oh, wow. [01:02:01] Speaker A: I love that. [01:02:02] Speaker B: Look at those layers. [01:02:03] Speaker C: Oh, it's got good atmosphere, hasn't it? [01:02:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:07] Speaker A: And just that valley down the bottom, Waterfall. I don't know. These might not be in order. [01:02:17] Speaker B: Yeah, sorry. They might have Got a bit scuffed. That's Felicity Johnson's image. But amazing. Thank you, David. [01:02:23] Speaker C: Beautiful. Yeah. [01:02:26] Speaker B: David was a. Was a happy and active contributor to Print Swap. He was really involved in that, which was lovely to see. We'll talk about that more on another episode in the future at some stage. But, yeah, a lot of people stepped up with Print Swap. It's really lovely. [01:02:41] Speaker C: I didn't get rid of all mine, so if anyone wants one, send me a message. [01:02:46] Speaker B: There you go. You can still print swallow just because. [01:02:51] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:02:52] Speaker B: Did you get rid of yours, boss? [01:02:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I did. So I was fortunate, Adam, because we had the stand there. People were coming past and they'd be like, oh, do you have any? So it was. But I wouldn't have had time to do it if I didn't have the stand and they were just sitting there with me. For anyone that strolled past, I had [01:03:09] Speaker C: every intention of getting them out at the end of all my workshops and just seeing. Trying to offer them to the people that. Who come to the workshops, but just the chaos of everyone having to go to another one or, you know, whatever. Kind of really hard to wrap up more. [01:03:27] Speaker A: More busy people. Craig said he's still got 16 of his. Glenn managed to do about six of his. Yeah, just the people that were running around like workshops or like Craig or whatever, it was hard to find the time. And because they were so busy, people probably didn't grab them and say, do you have any of your images left? Kind of thing. [01:03:47] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But I will say this, Prince. Print swap. Print swap. I can't speak anymore. Print Swap was a huge success beyond what Bruce and I ever imagined it would be. Next year we'll do a bigger. We'll have a slicker system and a, you know, nicer interface and all that sort of stuff. But the core premise of it proved to be another success. 170 Print swappers over with the rares. It was. Well, I think it was around 3,500 prints in circulation across the weekend. People having genuine connection. People standing in circles with us explaining why they took that shot, why they chose that shot and what it meant to them. You know, people got emotional, people were proud, people were shy. There was every. Every emotion was on. On display during those moments. And one of the things I kept saying to people is, just because bfop's ending doesn't mean Print Swap has to, you know, create a pen pal relationship with someone and swap prints once a month. You know, just print, print your own favorite image once a week, once a Fortnight, whatever it may be, you know, like, really continue that, that idea of getting your prints out. Because as Bruce very accurately said, just because you've edited the image doesn't mean it's finished. [01:04:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:04:56] Speaker B: You know, you need to get it off a screen. You need to see and feel. And that was the other lovely thing, is that people were choosing these amaz, amazing papers to print their print swaps on because it was a. It was like a little treat for themselves to do something a little bit extra special. And people's papers were so nice that all of a sudden the images had texture and that. That interaction of handing someone your print became a bit visceral, you know, it was like, oh, wow, that feels good. Tell me about your image, you know. Yeah, it was lovely. [01:05:22] Speaker C: Really beautiful thing that. I think it. It just broke down and I've seen it year on year. Now is just before HQ opens, there's a line out the front. Yeah. Everyone's nervous and everyone's, like, chatting, but they're kind of like, not super social. But I stuck my head out and like, everyone was print swapping, like, which was so cool. [01:05:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I got a lot of photos of it. [01:05:47] Speaker C: Yeah, it was. It was just like something. Something that added to a part of the time that we spent together that's otherwise a bit monotonous. You know, just give everyone something to do in between and. And, you know, like you said, just the social aspect of it was really nice. [01:06:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Like people sitting around the picnic table, you know, eating lunch from the food van or coffee from the brojangles guy. [01:06:11] Speaker C: Yep. [01:06:11] Speaker B: Print swapping, you know. Sorry, jar cut you off. [01:06:15] Speaker A: I was just gonna say a badge or something. Next year we'll organize that maybe where everyone gets a badge if they're in the print swap. So if they want to wear it, people know that that person has got a printer swap. [01:06:28] Speaker C: We need to find a way to gamify it. So there's a winner. [01:06:33] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe. Yeah, we can have something. Although I did give out five prizes. I gave out five Canon, four Canon selfies and paper packs. And then I chose one person or Bruce and I did. We both choose someone who actually got the instructor rare photo album full of all the rare images from the instructor. So there's everyone's images in there. It was pretty cool. [01:06:56] Speaker A: Here's how we do it. We do it like a bingo. So you. We print extra. Everyone prints. How do we do it? Everyone prints 21 images and they have to pop their image into a big, like, jumbly. What Are they called, you know, like a barrel drum? A drum. A drum. That's what I'm trying to think. A drumbly drum. And then you start pulling them out. And then the first person to have 5 of the car. Of the images that get pulled out in their swaps or something like that, they get a prize. [01:07:29] Speaker C: You know, I reckon everyone could. All the. All the prints could be assigned like a random. Like completely random, but like a random value. And you. Your game for the weekend is to get the highest value in your print album. [01:07:47] Speaker A: You could. [01:07:48] Speaker C: Because the reason I don't. You know, then. Then it becomes trading, like. [01:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah, but then you're trading based on just the dollar value written on the. On that, you know, and then what if your car. If my image is $1 and I'm [01:08:01] Speaker B: like, oh, man, no one wants blurry. Sorry, Kirsten, but it's blurry. [01:08:05] Speaker A: You know, then for some reason, Greg's is $100 million and I'm. Of course. Everyone wants random. Yeah, yeah. These were assigned at random. [01:08:16] Speaker C: Or. Or like, we should put some thought into it because I think it would be really cool to find a way that, you know, you. [01:08:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:22] Speaker C: You worked over the time of the weekend to get the. Yeah, the. Whatever. [01:08:28] Speaker B: Bruce and I tried to use the kind of the, you know, gotta catch them all Pokemon kind of theme, but I think it was the wrong crowd. Most of these people had never heard of Pokemon. Yeah, poker. What? Yeah, so. But, yeah, no, it was. It was great. And yeah, Bruce and I want to make it bigger and better, so we'll open it up to. To feedback and suggestions. But, yeah, great experience. Like, just such a simple idea and it just. It just elevated everyone's experience a little, I think. Well, from what I saw, it did. [01:08:58] Speaker C: Well, we all know who the number one print was for the weekend. [01:09:01] Speaker B: Whose was that? [01:09:03] Speaker A: Who was it? [01:09:05] Speaker B: Yours? [01:09:06] Speaker C: Yeah, I was number one. [01:09:07] Speaker B: Oh, number one. Number one. [01:09:08] Speaker A: Yeah, the number one. [01:09:11] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bruce was like, gotta make this number one. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure it was alphabetical. [01:09:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure they were, mate. [01:09:20] Speaker C: Right, like this. Every school role ever, I was number one. [01:09:26] Speaker B: Should we. Should we cover off a little bit of news? Just the headlines. [01:09:33] Speaker A: Yes, we should. [01:09:35] Speaker B: All right, don't bring anything up. I'll just read some of these out. There's some new lenses coming. Surprise, surprise. A couple of the more notable ones. Tamron have announced a 16-50 f 2.8 APS C lens, which is a lighter and cheaper version of, you know, pretty standard kit lens. For most APS C systems, especially in. I know, for. Certainly in the Fujifilm space. Sigma have also announced a 50-120 f 2.8 compact telephoto zoom for APS C. Once again, you know, just those two lenses alone are pretty much a great kit. You know, one Sigma, one Tamron, everyone's friends. Rumors that Canon are dropping a RF 70 to 200 F2 according to a most recent patent, and some leaked images have appeared of a upcoming Nikon Nikkor Z120 to 300F2. 8. You're a Nikon lad, aren't you, Adam? [01:10:36] Speaker C: I'm keen for that lens. [01:10:38] Speaker B: Yeah, you are. I was going to ask, what are your thoughts on that? [01:10:43] Speaker C: I used to have the Sigma 120 to 302.8 when I shot a lot of motorsport, and it was a phenomenal lens for motorsport. And to have like the teleconverter in it as well. Gold, like. Yeah. I was lucky. So the plan is, hopefully I'll be able to take the 120 to 300 that Nikon will lend me to Iceland next year to do the puffins, because those guys come pretty close. So it'll be. It'd be a really good range for that. [01:11:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:18] Speaker A: Yep. [01:11:18] Speaker C: Be 1120 to 420 with the teleconverter. [01:11:25] Speaker B: Yeah, that's pretty good. [01:11:28] Speaker C: Yeah. But I've used the 402.8 with the same, you know, the Flip teleconverter in the back. So good. Like. Yeah, I took that to Kenya last year and it was, yeah, super good. The only problem is with the slight Nikon push boundaries, I think with lenses since they've gone mirrorless, like, they innovate with some of this stuff constantly. The only thing is we've got to pay for it with money. Like, they're super expensive and, you know, they're beyond the reach of. Of most people because, you know, that 400, like $24,000. [01:12:03] Speaker B: Yeah, it's crazy. [01:12:04] Speaker C: And my, My fear is that the 120 to 300 will be, you know, mid teens. Yeah, yeah. Which is scary. But, yeah, it'll. It'll be phenomenal lens for people who shoot big sports like motorsports and stuff. Gold, like, so good. [01:12:21] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sideline stuff for that. Like, it'll be. Yeah, that'll be super popular. [01:12:28] Speaker B: Yeah. But I hear what you're saying about pricing too. You know, even though it's a pro series lens, it's still a big chunk of cash for a small business. Yeah. [01:12:37] Speaker C: Or Just, you know, a really serious hobbyist or. Yeah, you know, any of those guys. But the, the guys that are buying them are either, you know, can just have that money where they're like whatever, or the pros that are working with it and that, you know, when the pros that are working with it get it. I don't know whether you guys have ever seen a pro sports photographer's lens after five or six years, it's like chipped and smashed, no paint on them. Like they get treated exactly as such. So there were courses. Yeah. And that's it. It's just, it's just a tool I could never justify. [01:13:11] Speaker A: They have to be durable and precision and they don't get made in large quantities and therefore they're super duper expensive. More importantly, Lisa Leach says, happy birthday, Adam. Is it your birthday? [01:13:22] Speaker B: It is, yeah. [01:13:24] Speaker A: What? [01:13:25] Speaker C: Yeah, [01:13:27] Speaker A: that's the best I can do. I haven't got any. That's good. [01:13:31] Speaker B: It's got no sound effects. [01:13:32] Speaker C: Thank you. [01:13:33] Speaker A: I got a happy birthday. No, I don't. I got a. [01:13:36] Speaker B: And you're spending your night with us? [01:13:38] Speaker C: Yeah, why not? Yeah, yeah. I don't. I don't make a huge deal of birthdays. Been working on a photo shoot this afternoon, but I appreciate it. I appreciate the thoughts. [01:13:50] Speaker B: Here they come. Here come the comments. [01:13:52] Speaker A: Gosh. [01:13:52] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:13:53] Speaker A: If. [01:13:53] Speaker C: Here it all comes. [01:13:55] Speaker A: So many AI thumbnails I could have made. I could have had Greg coming out of a birthday cake. Damn it. [01:14:04] Speaker C: That might have violated AI's terms. Yeah. [01:14:10] Speaker B: If you, if you upset AI. [01:14:11] Speaker C: Wow. [01:14:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:14] Speaker B: All right, a little bit of other news with worth mentioning, some of it not. Leica was rumored to announce a new Sumaron M35mm 2.8 lens which will cost about $20 million. [01:14:29] Speaker A: It says €2,000. Barely anything. [01:14:31] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I don't know what that equates to. Who knows these days? [01:14:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:34] Speaker B: Half of Europe's on fire. What are you talking about? [01:14:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:37] Speaker B: Third Voigtlander. Voigtlander is celebrating 100 years of their Scopa series lenses. I have no idea what that means, but Scopa series sounds really serious. But yeah. Happy birthday. Along with Adam, I guess. And finally, like I said, there's a whole bunch of other little third party lenses that are coming out which, you know, some people love. Greg Carrick will be onto them, that's for sure. Sony have announced their own wireless microphone with high res audio recording and stability connection. They only just dropped those new monitors a couple of weeks back. [01:15:14] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:15:16] Speaker B: Their accessory lines. [01:15:17] Speaker A: Accessory line. And I haven't looked into those mics yet because I don't have Sony's but I've seen a lot of people posting videos about how great they are, so they've obviously done something right. Because it's also hard to like when you've got DJI and Rode and everyone already making some pretty epic mics. I don't know, maybe they just like it because it's first party. [01:15:36] Speaker B: Some people will. [01:15:38] Speaker C: Sure. From like I was. I was a product manager for a while. It's not the area I'd be diving into where there's lots of competition that [01:15:46] Speaker A: are already awesome and you're behind. [01:15:48] Speaker C: Yeah. I don't. It probably just fits on that silly hot shoe mic thing that they have. [01:15:54] Speaker A: It does. And it connects digitally which. Yeah, would be nice. I would like. Like I use a Canon on camera mic that fits onto that and it's not as good as other on camera mics that you use the cord, but I use it because it maintains weather sealing and it's very, very neat for just run easy run and gun stuff. And I can use the camera menu to change settings which is quite handy. But yeah, it would want to have some good features for me to sort of pick a wireless mic system that isn't Rode or DJI or one of the other. [01:16:29] Speaker C: Yeah. Because then the other thing is is you lock yourself into that too. Right. Particularly if it's. It's agnostic to the camera. [01:16:37] Speaker B: Yes. [01:16:37] Speaker C: Like if for some reason I decide I hate Sony next week and I'm a Sony shooter and all my accessories now, everything work. [01:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:47] Speaker A: Now I'm going to just quickly. I know Greg, you were just going to skip these. I'm just going to read out a few headlines and you guys are going to decide. Am I taking the piss with fake headlines or are these real headlines? [01:16:57] Speaker B: Sure, we've got time for that. [01:17:00] Speaker A: Tyfok have released a new autofocus 23 millimeter 1.4. Coming later this year, Viltrox have released a 26 millimeter pancake in silver and gray finishes. Lauer have released a 24 millimeter tilt shift lens. TT artisans have released a 24 millimeter 3.8 pancake lens that only weighs 57 grams. Real or fake? [01:17:24] Speaker B: Real. [01:17:24] Speaker C: Real. [01:17:25] Speaker A: Yeah. They're so funny. [01:17:28] Speaker C: It's not even surprising anymore. [01:17:30] Speaker A: They just keep coming and I'm like, who's buying all of this? These lenses. [01:17:34] Speaker C: But. [01:17:34] Speaker B: But I will say this. I. I love a good pancake lens. I think they're the unsung hero of a lightweight camera kit. You know, sometimes you just want to chuck a lens and go for a walk or you're going out on a family thing. You don't want to take a zoom or a big heavy prime. You still want to take your good body and just drop a pancake on it. I, I, I fully applaud all of these coming out. I think. Great. [01:17:55] Speaker A: The one that, that was a game changer for me. And there was probably ones before this, but I wasn't into photo photography before this. Canon released a 40 mil 2.8 on their EF mount years ago. And it was like this tiny little thing you could just leave on the camera instead of putting a lens cap on it. Yeah, this is great. [01:18:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:18:15] Speaker A: But Lucinda's right. One pancake's enough. We don't need a full stack. I don't know. [01:18:21] Speaker B: Speak of the devil. [01:18:25] Speaker A: It's got an 18 millimeter. Greg, you should look into the 19 mil. It's all awesome. And the 17 is also a good option. [01:18:31] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:18:31] Speaker B: And the 17 and three quarters, that's, that's schmick. Final bit of news that I thought was interesting. Historic. So for anyone whose nan is holding on to her Leica collection, you might want to check. But A historic Leica Zero series camera sold for 4.25 million euros at the Wetzler camera Auctions. One of the most expensive cameras ever sold at an auction. 4.25 million. That's crazy. [01:18:59] Speaker A: I wonder if it, you know, it'd be sick just rocking around doing street photography with it. You're not telling anyone? [01:19:06] Speaker B: Leaving it in the cafe. Oh, better go back and get it. Yeah, but. Yeah, that's it for the news folks. [01:19:12] Speaker C: That's, that's crazy. [01:19:13] Speaker B: What's that in Australian dollars? Hang on. What's 4.25 million in Australian dollars? That doesn't make any, any sense, Greg. That's a stupid question. That doesn't matter. It's a lot. [01:19:24] Speaker A: Okay? [01:19:25] Speaker B: It's a lot. It's a lot. [01:19:28] Speaker A: Should we do some more images? [01:19:29] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do some more. What are we up to? [01:19:32] Speaker C: 7. $7 million. [01:19:34] Speaker B: 7 million. [01:19:37] Speaker C: But. [01:19:38] Speaker A: Wow. [01:19:39] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:19:41] Speaker A: I wonder, actually. Dynamic ranges. We up to Lucinda? [01:19:48] Speaker B: Lucinda. Yep. [01:19:51] Speaker A: I've heard of her. She's quite famous. [01:19:54] Speaker B: Yeah, she's good egg. [01:19:57] Speaker A: Good egg. [01:19:58] Speaker B: She's a good egg. [01:19:59] Speaker A: All right. Does it have. [01:20:02] Speaker B: So these are from the beef up weekend. No wordings. Just here's the images. They speak for themselves. [01:20:08] Speaker A: Lucinda getting her stage. Yeah, she's like a. You can take the music photographer out of the music, but a stage in there, right? [01:20:17] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Look at. Oh, she was moving around. [01:20:22] Speaker C: How wild was that, by the way? [01:20:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:20:26] Speaker A: Oh, gosh. I can't look. Be Greg Dennis. [01:20:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm trying to work out the autofocus. [01:20:33] Speaker A: I was going to say, if Lucinda saw this, she'd be like, what are you doing? Looking at the camera. She was running a workshop on how to shoot, like, shoot performers on stage. [01:20:42] Speaker B: Turn my back on the stage. [01:20:45] Speaker A: You probably already got the shot and you're like, got it. Moving on. [01:20:48] Speaker C: I can't work out if Dennis is excited or terrified in that last photo. [01:20:53] Speaker B: Yeah, he was pretty pumped for this experience. [01:20:56] Speaker A: I think he's trying to do the exact same dance move. Like he's trying to mirror the same. [01:21:03] Speaker B: He was getting groovy on the floor. A lot of them were a lot of the workshop instructors. Kim. [01:21:07] Speaker C: Not this one. [01:21:09] Speaker B: No, not Adam. [01:21:10] Speaker C: I was hoping Craig, actually. Can't remember. [01:21:14] Speaker B: Yeah, Dennis was. Oh, we had feeling the vibe. [01:21:17] Speaker C: We had HDMI transmission issues. [01:21:21] Speaker A: All right. Always frustrating. [01:21:26] Speaker B: That's amazing. I love that. I love the gold. The gold tone of it, this one. [01:21:30] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. I wonder if she had one of those on. She's a often on this. [01:21:36] Speaker B: She likes a black mist. Maybe a black mist. I don't know. Did you have a black mist on Lucinda? Tell us in the chat. [01:21:45] Speaker A: Too far. [01:21:49] Speaker B: Just a moment to pay homage to Lucinda. First time at bfop, first time that we actually met in person was when she pulled up to our Airbnb to move in for the rest of the weekend. Super brave. Completely threw herself into bfoc. Completely threw herself into supporting Lucky and the podcast and just was. Was prolific doing stuff, whether it be selling camera straps or out with Dennis doing. What did you call them? Box pops? Interviews, like, just. [01:22:22] Speaker A: I believe it ended up being called Lucky Straps tv. [01:22:24] Speaker B: Lucky Straps tv. That's right. But just. Yeah, just really threw herself into it. I was so proud of her and such an amazing person to get to know over that sort of weekend. You know, we had many a creative discussion. It was wonderful. Yeah. Really, really great. Can we keep her for sure, Jay? [01:22:42] Speaker A: Well, as long as she's keen, but, yeah, absolutely. [01:22:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:46] Speaker A: We just got to try and get her there with a band next year to run a music photography workshop. Yeah, we just need a crazy, crazy band with pyrotechnics and all sorts of stuff. [01:22:57] Speaker B: Well, I mates with Darren Middleton from Powder Finger. They're currently touring again. They're doing a whole bunch of concerts. Maybe we'll get him. [01:23:05] Speaker A: Tell them about the bright community Hall. It Is a good venue. It holds quite a lot. [01:23:11] Speaker B: Well, Darren's a photographer too. He gets it. He's a lot. [01:23:13] Speaker C: Tell him like we had a half a million dollar Mercedes there if Powder finger doesn't rock up. [01:23:17] Speaker A: That's right, that's right. [01:23:20] Speaker B: Yeah, that's right. [01:23:20] Speaker A: Yeah, if you like. You guys are the fourth most famous person here because we've also got Chris, Benny. [01:23:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:31] Speaker A: This shot, I love this shot, this black and white one. I love the leading lines from the stairs with the black leggings which were. I don't know if they were black or not, but they look black in this. And then the pose and the facial expression and then. Is that. Is that Nick Fletcher or someone walking away? I don't know. It just works. Everything works. [01:23:53] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. Very clever. Yeah. [01:23:58] Speaker A: Great. [01:24:01] Speaker B: Yep. [01:24:01] Speaker A: Who next? [01:24:02] Speaker B: Well done, Nathan Coot. [01:24:05] Speaker A: Nathan. Yeah. This comes through over a week ago and because we didn't do a show last Monday, we had to save it for this one. [01:24:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:24:17] Speaker B: After shoot on Saturday in Richmond, I headed back to the city and bumped into some fellow street photography friends that usually hang out the front of Flinders Street Station. This is definitely something I don't usually shoot and I'm not usually one to shoot street portraits or even people as such with my street photography, which might seem bizarre but I'm actually a really quiet and shy person who gets rather anxious. But this just seemed right. It's lovely. This is John. I'm a mover and shaker in quotation marks. I recently purchased the Godox it 32 with the X5F paired with the Fujifilm X T30 and a 16 2.8. Nice work. [01:24:56] Speaker A: Very nice work. [01:24:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:24:59] Speaker B: Yeah, that 16 is great. That's a great. It's a great lens for street photography. It's light, it's small, but it gives a really nice field of view. It adds story and context even in portraiture. So, yeah, well done, mate. [01:25:14] Speaker A: He says not from Beef Up Soz. This isn't a befop exclusive segment, it's just. It's just how it's ended up. So for anyone listening, send in whatever image you want for next week. Email it to the camera [email protected] that's [01:25:29] Speaker C: the camera bfop free show. [01:25:32] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. We're going to have no beef up next week. Zero. Anyone that has to do has to [01:25:37] Speaker B: do a 20 burpees. [01:25:39] Speaker A: Yeah, that's exactly what I was going to. I was going to say 50 but we'll say we'll do 20 but on while we're on the air. [01:25:43] Speaker B: Come on. [01:25:44] Speaker C: Live. [01:25:45] Speaker B: I'm still working off my BF Belly, so, you know. There it is. I got to do 20. No. Up next, we've got Gareth, Idle Wind Photography. [01:25:55] Speaker A: Where is Gareth? He was single. He said he had to go. So where is he? He's gone. [01:26:05] Speaker B: Yeah. It's not a big file. [01:26:07] Speaker A: Oh, no, it is not a big file. How did this happen? Did I get that wrong? [01:26:09] Speaker B: I don't know. That's what you sent me. [01:26:12] Speaker A: I sent you this? [01:26:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:15] Speaker A: Was it via email? [01:26:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:18] Speaker A: Look, just chat amongst yourselves one second. Are you sure it wasn't really big? So it downloaded it like that? [01:26:26] Speaker B: No, that's what I got. How dare you question me. [01:26:30] Speaker A: Oh, no, that won't save time. [01:26:31] Speaker C: I'd have to do a crash course in sizing images live on tonight's podcast. [01:26:36] Speaker B: Live. [01:26:37] Speaker A: Hang on. While I'm searching for it, I'm going to just bring up one bit of news that was shared by a friend of the show. This is from Phil Taylor, who's in the chat. Hi, Justin. Didn't want to put this in the chat in case it seems like I'm trying to market it. Not really this crowd who are going to drop a few hundred thousand, but anyway, we've been developing the world's fastest 4K camera, which has just launched, being sold under the brand Photron. And the website is wrong. It can do 5,400 frames a second at 4K. [01:27:15] Speaker C: What? [01:27:16] Speaker A: Yeah, it says 5,000, but it can actually do more. [01:27:23] Speaker B: That's crazy. [01:27:27] Speaker A: It is crazy. [01:27:29] Speaker C: That would need a lot of light. [01:27:33] Speaker A: Yeah, probably, yeah. Backside illuminated sensor, NVMe SSD storage, just mechanical shutter. I can't imagine that would be running at those speeds. But yeah, built for what's next in high speed imaging. [01:27:55] Speaker B: It was sent to Bruce to test. [01:27:57] Speaker A: What? [01:27:59] Speaker B: That's not surprising. [01:28:01] Speaker A: Send it to me to test. [01:28:03] Speaker B: Oh, send it. I thought it meant sent to me to test. Sorry, Sorry, Bruce. [01:28:08] Speaker A: Oh, you never know. [01:28:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:10] Speaker A: Did he send it? I has lights. He says. [01:28:19] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:28:21] Speaker A: Oh, no, that is a really small file on the image too. Oh, no. Yeah, see, it says download full resolution download to your device. [01:28:28] Speaker B: I know what I'm doing. [01:28:30] Speaker A: You must have missed the download link or it didn't come through to you properly somehow. [01:28:34] Speaker C: Wouldn't have been Greg's fault. [01:28:36] Speaker A: Nah. Ever is, never is, you know. But I'm fixing it. I'm fixing it live on the air. [01:28:45] Speaker B: Tweak Productions is on the wait list for BFOP next year. Well done. [01:28:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:28:49] Speaker B: So, yeah, tickets have already sold. [01:28:51] Speaker A: Yeah, it's already sold out. [01:28:53] Speaker B: It was like the fastest selling period for any of the festivals in the past. But goes on to say, sorry, tweak says if I can't go to befop, I'm going to go do a lap of New Zealand instead. That's a terrible consolation prize, but I'm sure you'll make the most of it. [01:29:12] Speaker C: Maybe I'll go do the lap of New Zealand. [01:29:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that sounds good. [01:29:17] Speaker A: All right, well, that's it. You heard it here first. Fastcam Polaris coming soon. The fastest camera on the planet. Yeah, it looks beefy too. Look at the cooling. Yeah, just mega photron. [01:29:32] Speaker C: Just extreme in every way. [01:29:35] Speaker A: We need that for filming shenanigans at [01:29:37] Speaker C: next year's Beef up for the streamer cannons. [01:29:41] Speaker A: Yeah, the cannons firing off incorrectly. All right, hang on, let me get back to. All right, this is Gareth's image. [01:29:50] Speaker B: Okay. So Gareth goes on to say, I've also attached an image for the show. We have another Comic Con coming up in a few weeks in Swansea. This one was caught in the spring show outside the venue. Star wars fans need no explanation. Those who aren't, well, never mind about them. They won't get it anyway. Taken on the Q3 monochrome, ISO 200F 8, 1, 500, cropped in slightly. It was a very lucky shot and wasn't staged as far as I know. [01:30:16] Speaker A: Yeah, this is great. Just like the stormtroopers in the background through the window of the coffee place then. Which means also like one of these Star wars guys. Is that Luke? I don't know who that is. Is interested in seeing what's happening over at the coffee shop. But then also there's the dude at the front who just looks like, I don't know, like demoralized or something. Like something hasn't gone right for him. Yeah, maybe because he doesn't have a lightsaber. Anyway, it's great. This is great. It's. [01:30:51] Speaker C: That is very good. [01:30:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, [01:30:56] Speaker A: Very cool shot. [01:30:57] Speaker B: Very nice. Well done. Thank you, Gareth. Keep them coming. [01:31:01] Speaker A: And next, [01:31:04] Speaker B: David Mascara has three images. A little bit of trouble getting David's images. I blame Justin. We'll just leave it at that. Anyways, here's a miniseries of a pre wedding engagement. The guy was a former co worker and his fiance's dad had a connection to the Golden Gate bridge. So naturally I jumped on the chance to shoot up there. And yes, that's me with the 810 and also use the D3 up there. I was up there a few years before shooting the Blue Angels. But in the film era, there is a good story of how I got up there. But for another day. Don't want to bore you. Welcome back and have a great show. This was shot from the top of Golden Gate Bridge. [01:31:43] Speaker C: That's so cool. [01:31:45] Speaker B: That's insane. [01:31:47] Speaker A: Nuts. [01:31:48] Speaker C: With one of the best sounding cameras Nikon ever made. The D3. [01:31:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:53] Speaker C: I love that camera so much. [01:31:57] Speaker A: Yeah, that thing was a beast. That was so popular with Press and Pros. D3, D700. Yeah. [01:32:04] Speaker C: Just the sound of the shutter was. It was like you knew it was just there for business. It was super nice camera to use. How cool. [01:32:15] Speaker A: Color. [01:32:16] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:32:19] Speaker A: Wow. I'm trying to find also, no, can't preview this file. He sent through a video. Oh, he's got cars going fast. [01:32:37] Speaker C: Motorbikes. That's me. [01:32:40] Speaker A: All right, well, this is, this is going to work. Just give me one second. I think David sent through a video. Him. No window. Here we go. Share. Head to stage. I haven't actually checked this what this video is. So could be anything. No, that must have been the tower that he goes up on to to [01:33:13] Speaker B: shoot the Blue Angels. [01:33:14] Speaker A: The Blue Angels that come past from Download. But I haven't seen any of the Blue Angels stuff yet. I don't know when that. If it's already happened or what the deal is. But yeah, we're, we're waiting, we're waiting patiently to see that. Yeah, because that's, that's a. Just gets on all the big stuff. [01:33:31] Speaker B: It does. Thank you, David. Moving right along because we've still got a crap ton of images to look at. Up next, we've got John Hall. Evening all. Back home from that festival now and first day back at work today. So looking forward to a photography fix tonight. Well, welcome. It was great to catch up with you all in person and I really enjoyed your talk. Adam. We did some great workshops this year with Bruce Glyn, Aaron Walker, Chris Hopkins and the Shutterstop Mobile darkroom. The highlight for me though was Chris Benny's automotive masterclass on the Saturday night. Not only was it a brilliant workshop, but we had the most amazing sunset. My image tonight was taken on that workshop. Apparently there was a car in front of the sunset somewhere. Shot on the Nikon Z6 Mark III at 24 to 120. Shot at 51mil F16. 1 40th of a second. ISO 100. Look at that sunset. [01:34:29] Speaker C: Cracker. Yeah, it's like the $530,000 Mercedes is watching the sunset with you. [01:34:36] Speaker B: Yeah, just magic. [01:34:39] Speaker C: It's really good. Yeah. [01:34:40] Speaker A: It's such a good spot. And yeah, just great light, great everything. Mount Hol is beautiful place to take these sort of. [01:34:50] Speaker B: Yep, amazing. Thank you, John. And yes, amazing to catch up with you and Maya as well. Up next, we have Felicity Johnson, who since returning from that festival has seems to have been out photographing minute of every day. She's lapping up the beautiful spring weather and the change of season that's impacting their property just outside of Bendigo. Hello. This week is the Bird Life Australia Oasis. Sorry, The Bird Life Australia Aussie Bird Count week, where folks can record the birds they see at a site in 20 minutes. So I thought I would post photos of the Rainbow Beaters which had just arrived on our property from Northern Australia. They usually depart back up north in February. They bring joy to my heart. 365 days to be fop. Cheers Flick. That's amazing. I love it. [01:35:43] Speaker C: They're beautiful birds. We get them here too, so. [01:35:49] Speaker B: So they must come past you on the way down. [01:35:51] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, they kind of. They don't all go to one area, but they come south during summer, so they're ground nesters. So they anywhere where there's some good sand or something. Like we get them in the roadsides up around Menindee where it's sort of the sand sway just pushed up. They'll burrow because they burrow down in. And nest. Yeah. Well, so good. They're so good to photograph too because they're very habitual. They come and go from the same perch and. Yeah. And their colors. Doesn't look like they belong here. Like crazy colors. [01:36:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:36:28] Speaker A: Beautiful. [01:36:30] Speaker B: Amazing flick. Thank you. [01:36:33] Speaker A: Yeah, Epic. [01:36:37] Speaker B: What do we got left? Oh, we've only got a few left. Actually. I've got a little bit of news. Can we segue for a minute? [01:36:41] Speaker A: Well, well, if you want. But I'm also. I'm looking through this. This email folder that we get and I'm worried that there's quite a few in here that. That we don't have. [01:36:53] Speaker B: Well, we can always add them to next week, maybe. [01:36:55] Speaker A: I mean, we might be. I would like to just try and get on top of it, though. It could be from. Because I'm looking here. I think we've missed one from David Garberg, maybe. [01:37:06] Speaker B: Okay. I didn't see that one. [01:37:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Is Nev in there? No. Yeah, Nev's in there as well. [01:37:13] Speaker B: Okay. I didn't come through to me. [01:37:16] Speaker A: Yeah. But I can. I can just do them at the end, I think. [01:37:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:37:19] Speaker A: All right. Yeah. [01:37:19] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll get them through. [01:37:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, but you're. We've got your new. Your alpaca. Yeah, too, if you want to do that now. Yeah. [01:37:25] Speaker B: Yes, please. So on what day was it? Saturday I went to an event over at Docklands here in Melbourne. Alpaca, who is a bag EDC everyday carry bag company that make amazing bags and totes and backpacks, slings, the whole lot. And I've done a couple of reviews for their products before as well. But I got invited to come along to this event. It was Alpaca. It was in collaboration with the folks from CR Kennedy who operate the GR space in Brisbane, which is the Ricoh GR camera. It's kind of like a, you know, it's a shop and a gallery and they hold events there and things like that. But also Jason Lau, a friend of the show who's been on here a couple of times, he was, he was running, he did a talk and he was running sort of a workshop for people about how to make the most of using a compact fixed lens camera to, you know, capture creative shots, you know, not let your gear limit you, those sorts of things. It was a great event and it was all to. The reason why Alpaca is involved is because they have launched. I could just jump on. Can we enlarge this for a second please? Joe, my screen. [01:38:32] Speaker A: Yes, yes. [01:38:34] Speaker B: They've launched one of their bags. So their bags are made from really nice, you know, modern recycled materials. But this is dedicated to. I don't know if you can see it, but it's got GR space. So this is a dedicated. And it also has it on here on the little aluminum beads that they put on the zip pulls. It's a dedicated bag for the Ricoh gr. It has, it's specifically for a compact camera. I know this is terrible to see, but it has a collapsing kind of pocket that you can put your camera in or you can tuck it away and just enough storage for a phone, keys, wallet, Ricoh GR and a couple of accessories. And this is Alpaca's first camera bag. So I've got one because I'm doing a review. But I'm also. The folks at C.R. kennedy are going to send me out a RICO GR and Justin and I. Sorry, not Justin, you're out of it. Jason Lau and I are going to do a little bit of a project together and do some product shots for a review that I hope to write for the bags because in December they're releasing the same bag, but not a Ricoh GR specific one, just for Anyone with a compact camera, it's their first camera bag. It's a neat little sling and it will suit me with my Fujifilm X70. But even if you're like, if you're a smartphone photographer, you know, you can use it to keep your phone in, keep a power bank, you know, recharge cable, that sort of thing. It's just a handy little travel pouch. But yeah, and so, yes, there is some images, if you don't mind bringing those up, please, Jay. So on the left is Justin, Justin Cooey, he's one of the founders of Alpaca. I've been working with him for a couple of years now. And on the right is Clinton and he's from CR Kennedy. Next one, that's the GR4. I'm pretty sure they had some GR3s there and a couple of GR4s and a monochrome. I really want the monochrome. [01:40:23] Speaker A: Me too. [01:40:24] Speaker B: Yeah. And this is Jason. Yeah, part of his workshop. He was just being really creative, you know, in this shot he lay on the floor and the model, you'll see, I think the next over him looking down just to get a very different perspective. And then there it is there. So that's one of the models just standing over him. And then in another shot he took, he stood on top of a ping. There he is there in the back and the right, standing on top of a ping pong table, shooting down onto the model who's lying on the ping pong table. And it was just a little quick kind of workshop that he ran. He talked through the process, his thinking, composition, camera settings specific to the Ricoh gr. He nailed the brief, that's for sure, and delivered some amazing shots. So. So always grateful to Jason for including me in this sort of stuff. But yeah, looking forward to working with him on a real project, which would be great. So stay tuned for that. [01:41:24] Speaker C: Super cool. [01:41:25] Speaker B: That was. Yeah, it was really cool. And Alpaca always do a great event. They, you know, they put on food and drinks. They have, they've got this beautiful space in Docklands. I think they've actually got four spaces now because they've also got a workshop and a gallery space and an office space. But the store is amazing. It's really nice, it's slick and big fan of their gear. I've got a fair bit of it now, some that I've paid for, some that they've given me, so it's nice. Can't go wrong with that. Bit of a bag nerd. So, you know, but that was my Weekend. That was my, my weekend experience before I collapsed in utter exhaustion, realizing that I was not ready to leave the house after beef up just yet. [01:42:07] Speaker C: Yeah, two crazy weekends in a row. [01:42:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:42:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:42:10] Speaker B: It's just. [01:42:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:42:11] Speaker B: I need to go back to bed. That was mine. Should we finish off some more images? Jay, have you got anything else you want to cover off? [01:42:18] Speaker A: No, we should do more images and I'm just going back through. I'm like, I'm. I've found three that have been missed. We need to figure out what's going on with your. Why they come through to mine but not yours. [01:42:29] Speaker B: I wonder if it's because you read it. If you look at it first, like open it. Doesn't come through to me. Wow, that's weird. [01:42:37] Speaker A: But I'm just checking like if any of these names are familiar. I don't think so because. Have we got Marty Strecker in there? No. Yeah. So he's there too. Yeah. Okay, I think I've caught them. But if you're listening and we didn't bring up your image, let us know. [01:42:58] Speaker B: Yeah, please. We're really sorry, [01:43:03] Speaker A: we won't know. [01:43:04] Speaker B: Please email us your problem. [01:43:05] Speaker A: No. Leave a comment below this show. If you sent me an email and we didn't get it, please comment below on this show later on and be like, hey, where's my image? So that I can figure out what's going wrong. Okay, we'll work on something. [01:43:19] Speaker B: We're up to Richard Mail who sent in three images. [01:43:24] Speaker C: You should do a file request instead of an email. [01:43:28] Speaker B: I think. I think we. Something like that. [01:43:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:43:31] Speaker C: That way they're all there. [01:43:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, good idea. [01:43:35] Speaker B: We will work on something folks. It will get easier. I'm sorry. So, Richard. Hi Greg and Justin. It wouldn't be me if I didn't slip these in at the last minute. On Saturday I had the fun idea of a three way photo shoot with my wife Miranda and 10 year old daughter Riley. To start, Riley photographed Miranda and I, which is the first image Richard Mail won. I love that the photographer needs work on communicating what she wanted from her sitters, but still did an amazing job. Image 2. I then photographed Miranda and Riley and then Miranda photographed Riley and I, which will be the third image. Oh, they're really sweet. It was a fun 30 minutes. Yeah. Which produced a stunning, stunning nine frames which I conveniently had lying around. Now proudly displayed in the, oh, nine maybe nine inch frames now proudly displayed in the hallway. We are planning to repeat this every six months or so. What an amazing project. What a clever idea and a really important idea. It's both bonding time, but also it's documenting stages, you know, photographing what is before it becomes what was. Kids grow up very quick. This was all shot on the Nikon Z6 Mark II and a 35 1.8. It's the lightest Nikon I have for Riley's sake. [01:44:59] Speaker A: It's a really cool idea as a way to do family photos or even friends or anything. I think it's very clever and people could take. [01:45:07] Speaker B: There's a little side note. Sorry, Jay. [01:45:10] Speaker A: That's all right. [01:45:11] Speaker B: I was just going to say a little side note here from Richard Pearce. The official outcome of the. I have four weeks to keep any money generated from photo shoots. He was to upgrade his camera to buy a new camera. Ended up yielding a Nikon Z8 with the 50F 1.2. [01:45:28] Speaker C: That's a nice kick ass kit. [01:45:31] Speaker B: Yeah, no stopping you now. But thank you once again, Richard and amazing and well done, Riley. [01:45:39] Speaker A: Yeah, great idea. And Bruce. Bruce is accurately set up here somewhere. So much for the one image limit. Yeah, look, this week's just way out of control but we've let it, we've let it roll because a lot of them were from like specific BFOP workshops or this particular one. This is a perfect example of why to send in more than one image, it's from a specific idea around that required the three images to communicate what was. What had been done. So it's a perfect reason to send in a few more. After this week we will be going back to try and just send one image. Unless it's something like this where it's a set and has some reason that it's, you know, that you need to communicate with more than, more than one shot. Anyway, who's up next? [01:46:21] Speaker B: We have Andrew Connor, past workshop attendant of mine. Hi gents. Loved the BFOP coverage and the Peter Roland interview. Double thumbs up. A late one for review. Lucky timing. More was out on my daily amble and there was a willy wagtail hassling a cooker. To be honest, the cooker could not have cared less. But the willy wag tail swooped, squawked, etc. However, this one moment he seemed to be. He seemed to just be giving the kookaburra a back scratch and he hit the right spot. Not the sharpest, I know, but was a very reactive shot. Settings were ISO201,640th of a second F5.6 on a Sony RX10. Shots like this always remind me, always have the camera. Indeed. And Lightroom used to remove a small twig in front of the. The Willy wagtail. [01:47:14] Speaker C: It's cool. [01:47:15] Speaker A: Very. Yeah. Crazy moment. [01:47:18] Speaker C: Action shots with animals always so interesting, I think. [01:47:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Especially when they interact with different species. [01:47:28] Speaker C: Willy wagtails will just attack anybody, will they? Oh, yeah. Other birds, I've seen them, like, attack wedge tailed eagles and. What? [01:47:37] Speaker B: That's bold. [01:47:38] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. They're like. They'll have a crack at all the birds. [01:47:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:42] Speaker C: Because, you know, like, a kookaburra could eat Willy wagtail. [01:47:46] Speaker B: Yeah, probably. [01:47:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:47:48] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:47:48] Speaker B: Well, they ate blue tails. [01:47:50] Speaker C: Pretty savage. They're pretty savage hunters. Old kookaburra y. So, yeah, like, Willie's probably this time of year, has probably got a nest nearby, so. [01:48:00] Speaker B: You're so wise, Adam. [01:48:04] Speaker C: I just noticed. [01:48:06] Speaker B: You do. It's amazing. Up next, did you say you've got something from Lizoki there somewhere, Joe. [01:48:16] Speaker A: But I do. Are we up to that now? Are we? [01:48:18] Speaker B: I believe we are. [01:48:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Let me find. Let me find. You want to see where I put everything? [01:48:25] Speaker B: Jesus. Yeah, I think we're up to date. [01:48:30] Speaker A: So I've lost it now. I don't know what I did because I started putting it in here. [01:48:41] Speaker B: And people watching wonder why their images are going missing. [01:48:44] Speaker A: Yeah, well, I mean, no, I don't know where it is now. This has got to be it. It's labeled/DSC6623 Dash Edit, which does make it slightly tricky to keep track of. If that's it, that's it. Okay. [01:49:08] Speaker C: All right. [01:49:10] Speaker A: Read that one out, please. [01:49:11] Speaker B: Yeah. This is a shot for Adam Edwards, workshop photo for tonight's podcast. [01:49:18] Speaker C: There you go. [01:49:18] Speaker B: Love the scale. Wow, that's cool. [01:49:25] Speaker C: Adam, Secret spot. It's the cathedral. [01:49:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:49:31] Speaker C: So typically people go up on the cathedral and Les went up on the cathedral. I'm not sure was it straight after this workshop, but I can give you some directions. And he got some photos from up there. It's just such a beautiful part. The only thing is, is that the scale is so hard to show of the size of that rock. Yeah, yeah. But the area where we did this workshop, down with all this sort of swamp lands, is beautiful. Liz has done a really good job just getting a little bit of interest in the foreground with the reflection. [01:50:05] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I spotted that straight away. [01:50:08] Speaker C: Yeah, it's really good. [01:50:10] Speaker B: Interesting crop, though. [01:50:11] Speaker A: Interesting. [01:50:12] Speaker B: A little squat. Yeah. Is it square or is it squat? No, it is Square. It's one to one. Yeah. Nice work. It's a shot with the Nikon Z7 with the Fort Z14 to 30 at 17 mil F16. 30 seconds with the CPL. And 6. Stop. You see Jet Mag. Nice work. [01:50:31] Speaker C: It's really good. [01:50:32] Speaker B: Yeah, lovely. Well done. Frame it, Print it [01:50:38] Speaker C: that morning, actually. [01:50:41] Speaker B: What side of the mountain are you on there? Are you on the south side of it? [01:50:47] Speaker C: No, sort of in the middle. So. [01:50:49] Speaker B: Okay. [01:50:49] Speaker C: Yeah, it's in between the, like the day area where the chalet is and the horn. [01:50:56] Speaker B: Yep. Okay. [01:50:57] Speaker C: It's sort of. Yeah, it's right in the middle. Beautiful spot. [01:51:03] Speaker B: And Craig Murphy has offered his assistance. Justin, we need to talk on solving this image presentation problem. [01:51:11] Speaker A: We do, Yep. [01:51:12] Speaker B: We'll get on to that. Thank you, Craig. [01:51:15] Speaker A: Please help. All right, so now I'm going to just try and go through the ones that I found straight out of the email. So I'm going to. I'll bring it up and I'll work on this. So this is Marty Strecker sends this image in which I love this shot. Hi, team. Hope you're recovering well. Taking time out this past weekend to do other than camera worky things. Oh, yeah. Maybe this image will get through the past few weeks. Mine and others may have been lost. Yes, I would say that's right because this one was almost lost. So thanks for. Thanks for just sticking with us. I appreciate it. This is Hoyan, rice farmer and his buffalo. Om1 mark2.40 to 150 lens, ISO 1600 f 2.813 20th of a second at exactly. Precisely 124 millimeters focal length. [01:52:08] Speaker B: Nice. [01:52:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Such a great, beautiful. [01:52:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:52:12] Speaker A: And. And then the. Just the difference in having that buffalo in there and also having its teeth showing is what makes the. Yeah, the shot. [01:52:21] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:52:22] Speaker B: Tells a story more, doesn't it, of what's going on. I love it. Oh. [01:52:29] Speaker A: Craig Murphy goes on to say, I don't have a solution, but I also need to come up with one. Bane of my beef. Life. Yeah, it's. We thought we had solved it with Phoenix slides, but it just. It started just making life worse, not better. Okay, now, I found this one before. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? I want to read it out, then I'll bring it up. David Garberg. The David Garberg. Here is a shot I took during the Exploding things workshop with Camera House with Danny. Not perfect, but a bit of fun. Kerosene flying off the ball is what made it for me. Take care, Dave. And then I'll bring that up like that. That does look like a fun workshop. [01:53:15] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:53:16] Speaker B: Is that the one with Danny? [01:53:18] Speaker A: Yeah. Everyone always says it was just awesome. Just like. Yeah. Setting things on fire, blowing stuff up, using water and things and just freezing that motion. [01:53:28] Speaker B: Yeah, just. [01:53:29] Speaker A: Yeah, just good fun. Camera playtime. [01:53:32] Speaker C: Yeah. That's really cool, isn't it? [01:53:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:53:35] Speaker C: Love the spiral. [01:53:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:53:37] Speaker A: The water. [01:53:38] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:53:40] Speaker B: Or petrol or whatever it is. A lot of fluid. [01:53:42] Speaker A: Maybe we say kerosene, but I wonder if that. That wouldn't be kerosene coming off it because that would be on fire. [01:53:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:53:49] Speaker C: Kerosene needs to be like. It can be a liquid. [01:53:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. And not be. And not just catch on fire like petrol would. [01:53:58] Speaker C: Yeah, I think so. [01:54:01] Speaker A: Anyway, maybe I'll have to do some testing at home. [01:54:03] Speaker B: Don't try that at home, folks. [01:54:04] Speaker A: Don't try that at home. But I might. And another one that we may have missed and almost missed is this one here from the one and only Nev Clark. [01:54:15] Speaker B: See, he sent me these images on messenger and said, which one do you like best? There was three of them. And I said, yeah, do this one. And then I didn't get the email, so. [01:54:24] Speaker A: Oh, it's there. Sorry, Neville, I need to get inside your computer. I should have done that at the thing. Cause they're definitely coming through to the camera [email protected] can you fix my Lightroom catalog? [01:54:38] Speaker B: Because Sam Olsen said it's the worst she's ever seen in history. [01:54:41] Speaker A: Who did? Sam Olsen. [01:54:43] Speaker B: Sam. Yeah. [01:54:43] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:54:45] Speaker B: So far Julie Powell's also helped to sort it out. So has Lucinda and now you. So yeah, I think telling. Let's just. I'll just outsource it to everyone. [01:54:53] Speaker A: Maybe start a new catalog. [01:54:55] Speaker B: No, no, don't do that. [01:54:57] Speaker A: No. [01:55:00] Speaker B: I somehow removed a bunch of images two days ago. I was in the middle of editing my BFOP ones and I thought I was moving stuff to a folder and it removed them from Lightroom. It didn't remove them from disk. So I've still got them. But ah, everyone's jumping in. I can sort it. Claude can sort it. [01:55:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:55:17] Speaker B: Chris just wants to delete it all. Yeah. Maybe we'll have a Lightroom party as Julie suggests. [01:55:23] Speaker A: But imagine that if we just live stream multiple people live trying to work on your Lightroom catalog and it just takes eight hours or something and we have to watch everything. It's painful enough having to do that for yourself, but watching someone else do it on the Internet would be. [01:55:42] Speaker B: Yep, pretty tough. [01:55:44] Speaker A: Anyway, this is a photo from Bremer Bay Wa. Bremer. Bremer Bay Wa. This place Is amazing. With the Southern Ocean pounding in, I use the 500 mil 5.6, which. Have you got that lens for the GFX? You are a mad dog, Nev. I use the 5. [01:56:03] Speaker B: That's a sweet lens. [01:56:04] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:56:06] Speaker A: Which I don't use. Why? I mean, you don't use it a lot anyway. But I bought it for this reason. To do wave photography. GFX 1/ hundreds, two with the 500, 5.6, ISO 800 f11 at a thousandth of a second. Great shot. [01:56:27] Speaker C: Yep. Beautiful backlit waves. Always so cool. [01:56:33] Speaker A: All right. [01:56:34] Speaker B: Nice work, Nev. Nev's coming to Melbourne over Christmas. [01:56:37] Speaker A: Oh, cool. [01:56:39] Speaker B: Yeah, and take him and his boys out in the street. Photography workshop. [01:56:42] Speaker A: Nice. That's the way to do it. [01:56:46] Speaker C: Indeed. [01:56:49] Speaker A: I think that's all of the photos that got sent in. Please, if we've missed yours, let me know. Actually, let's do it this way. If I've missed your photo, email me directly justinluckystraps.com and we'll scope it out and we'll figure it. I'm gonna get inside Greg's computer and find out where the images are that you guys are sending in, because they're in there somewhere. We just don't know what's happening. [01:57:12] Speaker B: He's blaming me. Does everyone here? Adam, are you seeing what's happening right now? I did. [01:57:17] Speaker C: I heard Greg's computer. [01:57:19] Speaker B: Yeah, he's blaming me. [01:57:21] Speaker A: I didn't blame you. I just said they're in there somewhere, but they're not getting to your inbox. They're just getting lost at some point and spinning around or something. [01:57:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:57:29] Speaker C: Greg, do you have a paid Dropbox, either of you? [01:57:34] Speaker B: No, not paying that garbage. [01:57:37] Speaker C: They have a great file request where you can just create a link and it's automatically named by who uploads it, everything. It's really good. [01:57:45] Speaker B: I think we use that for print swap. Bruce, you set it up. Yeah, yeah. [01:57:49] Speaker C: Very, very good. [01:57:51] Speaker A: Greg Carrick says, did you do mine? But I can't see yours and I. So, no, we didn't. But I can't see it at all. [01:57:57] Speaker B: I don't think I did. [01:57:59] Speaker A: And I definitely. I'm getting all of them. I'm not missing any, I'm sure. [01:58:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:58:06] Speaker A: But as Rick Nelson says, use code. Greg. So Justin buys Greg a new computer to find everyone's photo. Yeah, perfect. [01:58:14] Speaker B: That'd be great. [01:58:15] Speaker A: Perfect. [01:58:16] Speaker B: Thank you, everyone. Thank you, everyone. [01:58:20] Speaker A: Thank you. Adam Edwards. [01:58:22] Speaker C: Thank you. [01:58:22] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Thanks for just everything. Thanks for being around. [01:58:28] Speaker B: Thanks for hanging out, man. What have you Got coming up. Adam, what's, what's on the docket? [01:58:33] Speaker C: A couple more jobs for the year. Off to Mungo Wednesday for a, like a workshop, but it's just for a camera club, like a group of people from a chem club. So I think there's six of them. And that's about a week. A few days at Mungo, a few days in Broken Hill, little private one in Mungo after that drone workshop next month and then that's it for the year. A couple of big commercial jobs and stuff. But, you know, yeah, I'll be finished by December at this point and have [01:59:09] Speaker B: December and what's 2027? What's. What tours are you looking at? [01:59:14] Speaker A: Oh my God. [01:59:16] Speaker C: Well, a lot of them are already sold out. All the normal. So Kangaroo Island, Broken Hill, Mungo, Another one around Broken Hill for wildlife, extended one around Broken Hill for like editing, printing, blah, blah, blah. Oh, I've got a cool new one or so I think we're in Australia. We lose a lot of time with summer. Right. Like for photography. So this year in January, January, February, I've got two little three day, like retreats here at the gallery. So one's a lightroom boot camp, which Greg could probably come and do. [01:59:58] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd love that. [02:00:00] Speaker C: And then another one around curating a set of images and printing and in this corner kind of called both of them summer camp. If you do both together. [02:00:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:00:10] Speaker A: Are they back to back? [02:00:11] Speaker C: Yeah. So you can do one or the other or both. [02:00:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:00:16] Speaker C: So yeah, should get in the car [02:00:18] Speaker A: to Greg and just get up there. [02:00:20] Speaker B: Yeah. So if everyone uses code, Greg, I can also buy a car to get to Broken Hill. Uber doesn't get out there. I've checked. [02:00:28] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's an expensive Uber. But if, if you get to Mildew, I'll come pick you up. Yeah, you can get there. But then. Yeah, heaps of other stuff. Two summer trips to Iceland, back to back. Puffins and stuff. [02:00:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Wow. [02:00:44] Speaker C: And then all the other normal stuff and probably we're like 85 of the way to doing Kenya again in November. Just got to sell another spot or two on that one. [02:00:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:00:56] Speaker C: Yeah. So it'll be a busy year. Or plus a week in the US for two weeks. In the US for a holiday. [02:01:02] Speaker B: Yeah. With the family. [02:01:04] Speaker C: With the wife. Yeah. [02:01:06] Speaker B: Nice. [02:01:07] Speaker A: Awesome. [02:01:07] Speaker B: It's important. Yeah, that sounds good. [02:01:09] Speaker C: They're off doing their own thing, so. [02:01:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:01:12] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:01:13] Speaker B: Okay. [02:01:15] Speaker C: Just to drink beer and listen to country music for two weeks. It'd be Great. [02:01:20] Speaker A: Have you been. [02:01:22] Speaker C: Nah. No, it's. It's literally bucket list. We've been talking about it for years and it's good. Yeah, it's. So we had to have the chance. And at this stage I'll be doing that. Sending Chelsea home and going straight to Iceland. So I'll be away for like, five weeks. It'll be worth it. [02:01:41] Speaker A: Yeah. That's awesome. I took my. I only had my Q3 when I went, and the Q3 in Nashville was awesome. [02:01:48] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [02:01:49] Speaker A: Going into these tiny little, like, country music. The smaller the venues when you get off. [02:01:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:01:57] Speaker A: You know, down the side streets and stuff. Just the photos you can take. Yeah. I'd highly recommend a. Yeah, I can't wait. [02:02:03] Speaker C: A tiny little lens, I reckon. I was thinking about it. I'll probably take my zr with the 28 mil little lens. [02:02:11] Speaker A: Perfect. Perfect. 28 was awesome. Because you could kind of get. You could get the. The scene, but then if you just go a bit closer, you could also just walk up to the stage. They didn't know, like. Yeah, they're just. The venues are so cool. The musicians are just on another level. [02:02:27] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:02:28] Speaker A: Insane. [02:02:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:02:30] Speaker C: So next year's massive in October. I've already booked accommodation and everything for that. [02:02:37] Speaker A: Oh, I haven't done ours yet. [02:02:39] Speaker C: I book it before I leave because otherwise I just won't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [02:02:46] Speaker B: Justin keeps threatening to put me in a tent at the caravan park. First year we went. Because the first year I. That we went, you gave me a hotel room that you'd booked. [02:02:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:02:55] Speaker B: You'd over. You booked a few rooms, which was amazing. And then last year, I remember hassling Justin like every week. Have you booked the accommodation for Brights going, oh, I thought we could just. I can stay in the van. You can stay in a tent. [02:03:12] Speaker A: Well, but is there any other way that we could maybe do it? And I'm like, no, it's fine. Don't worry about it. [02:03:17] Speaker B: I could have just spent my own money. But, you know, it is the kind [02:03:20] Speaker C: of place you want to be. Not sleeping well for the very short amount of sleep that you do get. [02:03:25] Speaker B: Yeah, very true. We now. We had a very good house. [02:03:28] Speaker C: Yeah. That place you guys were in this year was great. [02:03:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. It was podcast. [02:03:33] Speaker A: Yeah. It's good for that. I do the same again. But. Yeah, I'm just worried we need another bedroom. [02:03:38] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll see. Or a second house. [02:03:41] Speaker C: Could share. [02:03:41] Speaker B: It's going. [02:03:42] Speaker A: Yeah, that's true. [02:03:43] Speaker C: You know, head to toe. [02:03:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:03:46] Speaker A: Top the tail flick's already Got her accommodation booked, same cabin year after year. That's awesome. That's the way to do it. [02:03:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:03:53] Speaker B: Nice. Yeah. And the local businesses appreciate it. You know, they get. Yeah, they get certainty of bookings and, you know. [02:04:00] Speaker C: Yeah, they love it. It's great. I've stayed at the. Just the back of the Alpine Hotel, the. Their hotel, part of it, behind the pub. And every year they're like, yep, we'll book you straight back in. They're. They're amazing and they love it. [02:04:12] Speaker B: Yeah, they were lovely, actually. And the rooms are great. Clean and neat and, you know, perfect. And don't spend any time in your [02:04:19] Speaker C: room, but it's 50 meters to HQ, 200 meters max. [02:04:23] Speaker A: It's a perfect spot. [02:04:24] Speaker B: Or 5 meters to the bar. [02:04:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:04:28] Speaker B: Dangerous. [02:04:29] Speaker C: True. [02:04:29] Speaker B: It could be. It could be. [02:04:32] Speaker A: We might have to call it because. [02:04:34] Speaker B: Yeah, this week it's bedtime for all of us, I think. I'm still recovering. I'm still on Bright time, first and foremost. Adam, thank you so much for joining us today. Happiest birthday. Thanks for sharing your birthday with us tonight. I hope that when you get home from the studio, someone's at least made a cupcake for you. [02:04:55] Speaker C: But I've got one in Chelsea. Dropped one off in the fridge here earlier while I was out. [02:05:01] Speaker B: That is very sweet. That's very cool. Well, enjoy the rest of your evening. Thank you once again for all your insight and thanks also for everything you did for Bright for the Bright Festival this year. Not just the Jordan Liberty Project and the workshops, but you're a solid mate. You were there when we needed some support. You were there offering support to. To fellow workshop instructors when things went a little bit south. And I think that's a true testament of the character that you carry yourself around the world with. So thank you very much. [02:05:31] Speaker C: Really appreciate it. [02:05:32] Speaker B: Thank you. [02:05:32] Speaker C: Anytime. [02:05:33] Speaker B: No worries. But on that note, folks, thank you, everybody. Don't forget, we'll be back on Thursday. On Thursday morning, we have Brunswick Darkroom with Dylan, who is the. The owner and the CEO of Brunswick Dark Room. We're going to find out what's. What's happening in the field world, Film world, and they run workshops there. So we'll get. We'll get some details on that for you too. But on that note, let's say goodbye, [02:05:58] Speaker A: tweak says off to bed. See you all in the chat next week and hopefully get my ass into gear and send a photo in this time. If I can get it through, that is. Oh, it'll get through. You just send it to the camera [email protected] and we will find it next week, I'm sure. Sure. Julie Powell thank you. David Skinner 99 Liz Okie Nice chat, guys. Bruce Moyle, Thanks. Thank you. Phil Taylor for tog. Thanks for a great show. Well, I appreciate you being here, Phil I appreciate everybody. Ms. Ames. Liz Okie. Oh, he says Adam is a champion bloke. [02:06:30] Speaker B: He is. [02:06:32] Speaker A: Andrew Thompson. Plicity Johnson. Thanks all and thanks, Adam. Just bought your book through your own eyes. Can't wait to get it. [02:06:40] Speaker B: Nice. [02:06:41] Speaker A: Very nice, Very nice. Good choice. Felicity. Craig Murphy. Thanks, guys. I didn't think I would make it to the end. Still catching up on sleep. Oh, you must be tired. Good show. Good night. Lucinda, Rick Nelson, thanks for a great show. I'll have to send a pic next week. Yes, please do everyone send your pics in one picture though. Just the one, Paul. See ya and good night, everybody. Happy birthday again, Adam. [02:07:07] Speaker C: Thanks, everyone. [02:07:09] Speaker B: See you Thursday, folks.