The Random Photography Show feat. Levin Barrett (EP159)

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sam, [00:00:30] Speaker B: I gotta say, it's growing. [00:00:31] Speaker C: It's growing on me, too. [00:00:32] Speaker B: It's growing on me. I'm getting into it. [00:00:34] Speaker A: I'm starting to dig it. [00:00:35] Speaker B: It's got a vibe. It's got an era. Can't quite. [00:00:37] Speaker A: Dancing. [00:00:38] Speaker B: You were dancing. Were you dancing, Leon? [00:00:42] Speaker C: I couldn't get any audio. There was no noise sound to it. But the video, No. I don't know why we need to speak up, Justin. [00:00:50] Speaker A: Clearly. Hopefully. [00:00:53] Speaker B: Welcome back. This is the Camera Live podcast, everybody. And it is. What is the date? Goodness me. It's the 23rd of February. What happened to February? January felt like the longest month in the world and all of a sudden February is over. Anyway, it's flying. [00:01:07] Speaker C: I'm old. [00:01:08] Speaker B: I like ranting at things. Welcome back to the Camera Life podcast, proudly brought to you by Lucky Straps, maker of fine leather camera straps in Bendigo, Victoria. If you're looking for a new camera strap to connect with your craft, head to Luckystraps.com use code Greg. You'll get a healthy discount. And none other than Justin Castles, the man of the hour, shall we say Will, will be overseeing it being packed and shipped. He won't do it himself. [00:01:32] Speaker A: No, I'll make it. I'll make it. The next order that comes in tonight, I'll make it. Sorry. Because it won't be as neat as the proper ones that. [00:01:41] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:01:42] Speaker B: How to make your own straps anymore, now that you've got a staff, it's. [00:01:45] Speaker A: No, I've. I'll. I'll be honest, I've never been able to make one from start to finish. I know all of the processes, but I've never had the hands on training to. To work a sewing machine properly. It's very tricky. You need a lot of things. [00:01:58] Speaker B: That's very brave of you to be that honest. We appreciate that and that's why we love Lucky Straps. So head to Luckystraps.com for honest, good, hard work by people that earn less than Justin. [00:02:07] Speaker A: No, they earn much more. [00:02:09] Speaker B: But. [00:02:10] Speaker A: But they work a lot harder as well. [00:02:13] Speaker C: They probably do. [00:02:14] Speaker B: But look, let's get into the episode proper. In case you haven't noticed, we are joined tonight by a man with a very gray caterpillar on his lip. It is, of course, Levin Barrett. Welcome back, Levin. [00:02:25] Speaker C: Thank you, Greg. Thank you very much. Thank you, Justin. Pleasure to be here. Caterpillar. [00:02:30] Speaker B: Yeah, mine's spread. It's kind of. [00:02:32] Speaker C: Anyway, so. [00:02:36] Speaker B: So for those of you that aren't in the know, Levin Barrett has been a past guest on the Camera Life podcast. We interviewed him, episode 42, very long time ago. What are we up to now? Like 160 something. We've lost count. We stopped counting. [00:02:49] Speaker A: Yeah, we're up there. We're heading for 200. [00:02:52] Speaker B: Well, yeah, we're getting. [00:02:53] Speaker C: 42 was still my favorite. [00:02:55] Speaker B: Sorry? [00:02:56] Speaker C: 42 is still my favorite. [00:02:58] Speaker B: Yeah, best one. Yeah, yeah, it was, yeah, it's a, it's a crowd pleaser. But Levin Barrett is, is of course rear view photography and Levin is an Aussie landscape and astrophotographer. He also has a unique eye in the sky because he's also a commercial airline pilot and we're going to cover a little bit about that a little later on the show in one of our segments. We've got a bit of a treat for everybody, a look at the world that only a select few get to see. But Levin, great to have you. How have you been? Are you well? What's going on? [00:03:32] Speaker C: Going very well, thank you, Greg. Yeah, flying as much as always. Like I just did a back to back Bali trip in the last fortnight. Kept me active and had a new toy with me on that flight which I'll show you a little later on. And very active with the photography stuff, particularly that sort of thing being head down, bum up on the computer, creating tools and all sort of stuff for the last few weeks. So. Yeah, very. But glad to be so. [00:04:03] Speaker B: Well, there's a lot going on in your world at the moment and we're going to cover off your tours in just a moment because you've got some great offers and opportunities for people. People. And you're changing things up again this year, which is great to see. But you, you mentioned to me earlier before we went live that one of the reasons you flew into Bali, and I hope you don't mind me bringing this up, too bad if you do, was to visit with your son who has just become a pilot himself. [00:04:26] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. That was quite a thrill. Just to clarify, he is based, he's, he's my son and he got into the same airline as me about August last year, but it's a good six months worth of training that it takes and he finally passed his final line check about a week and a half ago and he did a flight out of Sydney up to Bali which happened to coincide with my flight out of Melbourne up to Bali and we had a nice afternoon together. Was it like neck and neck? Yes, exactly. Yeah, I won. [00:05:02] Speaker A: Did you do the Top Gun thing where you flip upside down and give him the bird trip? [00:05:06] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:05:09] Speaker A: We were inverted. [00:05:11] Speaker C: Anyway Is there? Yeah, but that was awesome to catch him up, catch up with him up there and yeah, he sort of finally gets a bit of a glimpse of my world and he's brand new into it, but he's figuring it out day by day. Although the funny thing was it actually cost me $150 because it was the first international flight he had done out of Sydney and he didn't have the appropriate and ended up having to park in the short term car park and cost him $150. [00:05:41] Speaker B: Oh, no, rookie mistake. Rookie mistake. [00:05:44] Speaker C: Yeah, but dad looked after him, you know, so. [00:05:48] Speaker B: Yeah, nothing wrong with nepotism. It's fine. It's true. [00:05:53] Speaker C: Yeah, true. [00:05:54] Speaker B: And I know this is not what we're here to talk about, but I'm curious now. You know, growing up, did he always want to follow in your footsteps? Did he? I mean, I know that you were an aircraft engineer originally. That was right, isn't it? You were an aircraft engineer. [00:06:08] Speaker C: Yeah, and I used to fix them. Now I get to break them. Much more fun. [00:06:15] Speaker B: Yeah, that's pretty cool. Hand them off to someone else to fix. Did he always want to follow in your footsteps and be a pilot? Was it not? [00:06:23] Speaker C: Not really, no. I got it. Strangely enough. It. Look, as a kid when he was sort of, you know, in his. That sort of stuff, you know, he came on a couple of flights with me that sort of. Back when I was just in general aviation, so piston twins and that sort of stuff. And as he got older, he sort of had a little interest in it, but nothing really much. But when he finished high school, he actually started to do a course in it for about what was meant to be a three year diploma or degree. And after about six or nine months, he just hated it. Absolutely hated it. So I took him along for, for his birthday for a trial instructional flight and loved it. Just fell in love with it. Bought the book on how to learn and from that point on he was hooked. Yep. Yeah. So, wow. Just. [00:07:11] Speaker B: That's great. [00:07:11] Speaker C: It's taken him 12 years from that point on to. To get where he is now. So it's a. Wow. It's an arduous journey, there's no doubt about it. [00:07:18] Speaker B: Well, you'd want it to be, wouldn't you? You'd hope it is arduous. You wouldn't want it to be too easy. [00:07:23] Speaker C: Exactly right. Yeah. Got it in one side. But look, it's good, you know, I'm very proud of it. He's put in the effort and the hard yards and it's sort of one of those things. Unless you've been through it and done it yourself, you really don't understand what it takes to get to that position. And yeah, he has put in a lot of salad yards to get there. So very proud of him. [00:07:40] Speaker B: Oh, that's great. Happy for you both. [00:07:42] Speaker C: Indeed. Thank you. [00:07:45] Speaker B: Now, let's talk a little bit about. Actually, let's say good morning. I said good morning. [00:07:48] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:07:49] Speaker A: Let's see who's in the chat and then we'll do. Sorry, we'll do tours. [00:07:51] Speaker B: Just a little caveat out there for everyone. I have not had a nano nap today. I am nano nap free, so I'm a little manic. Okay. This is not my usual routine. All right, Justin, over to you. [00:08:00] Speaker A: Okay. Philip Johnson's here. Paul is here. Paul is also here. [00:08:05] Speaker C: Paul Sutton. [00:08:06] Speaker A: Paul's everywhere. Rick Nelson is here. Felicity Johnson. Howdy. From Gornong, just around the corner. Good to see you. What else is going on? Teen type man's here. David Leporardi is here. Got some cool photos from David. Cool photos from everyone, actually, for your images later. Oh, quickly. You've probably got another 10 minutes. If you would like your photo featured on tonight's podcast because we are live right now. So if you listen to this live, email a photo to me, justinuckystraps.com just send one. I don't have time for lots tonight and we can show them at the end of the show. That's what we do. Just fun. [00:08:44] Speaker B: Nice. [00:08:45] Speaker A: So justinuckystraps.com or if you're listening back later, send it in now for next week. Yeah. Join us. Have fun. [00:08:52] Speaker B: Why not? [00:08:53] Speaker A: Everyone was loving the intro, which is cool. Tintype man said, it's getting better every week. Tony, get off my digital lawn. Says, best intro yet. [00:09:00] Speaker B: Thank you, Tony. We'll take it. [00:09:02] Speaker A: Cats. And Ellen Bogan says, good morning. Good morning, Good morning. And Rick Nelson says, we've got the three stages of facial hair here tonight, all inclusive. It's a progression. [00:09:15] Speaker B: It's Baby Castles, it's Midlife Chromie, and it's Senior Barrett. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Lisa Leach says that's a pilot's mustache for sure. Rocking at Levin. And finally, David Skinner says, it used to be. [00:09:30] Speaker C: It used to be brown like my hair until I became a captain. Then it went white. [00:09:35] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, put that in. Does that just part of it when you become a captain? [00:09:39] Speaker C: No, no, it was all the stress and freaking out of it. [00:09:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Do you do you own aviator sunglasses? You'd look good in a set of Aviators with that mustache? [00:09:49] Speaker B: No. [00:09:49] Speaker A: You never tried it. [00:09:50] Speaker C: There's a. There's a limit. You just. [00:09:54] Speaker A: The line is it actual pilots don't wear aviators. [00:09:58] Speaker C: Oh, they do, but. [00:10:00] Speaker A: They do. [00:10:00] Speaker C: You've got to be about. You've got to be about 40 years and a bit more buff than I am to get away with those. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Right. I reckon you do, Rocket. [00:10:08] Speaker B: I reckon you should sneak a pair in and just, just see what your. What your co pilots say. Just go for it. [00:10:15] Speaker C: I know what they. [00:10:18] Speaker B: All right, well, let's talk about your photography. You. For those of you that don't know, Levin runs workshops and tours often in some of the most exotic landscape and astrophotography locations on the planet. You know, we're talking obviously New Zealand here in our own backyard, Iceland. Where else have you been? Norway. [00:10:43] Speaker C: Look, but usually Tasmania, New Zealand. And when the first trip to Norway in about three weeks time. It's not my first time either. I've been there twice now. Had a month there back in 2008, about three weeks there last year. But Iceland I haven't done. I've got to bet that's still on my bucket list myself. [00:11:03] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Sorry, I thought you'd been. [00:11:05] Speaker C: Yeah, no, not yet, but I'm getting there. Work to it. Yeah, so. Yeah, but they're the main ones that I take go to. Yeah, yeah. Awesome. [00:11:13] Speaker B: And obviously for this upcoming Norway trip, we hope that you get better weather than you had last year. [00:11:20] Speaker C: Yes. Yeah, yeah. God, I hope so. It was. Yes, disastrous. Last year was just by myself, myself and my wife at one stage. We're in a town called Bergen and they had the highest rainfall of recorded history. The day that we were trying to sightsee Bergen. [00:11:35] Speaker B: What are the odds? That's wonderful. All right, let's talk about some of your tours. Justin, do you want to bring these up on the big screen for the. [00:11:45] Speaker A: Yeah, I got them ready to go. Where do we want to start? [00:11:48] Speaker B: Let's start with this Victoria Salt to Sea 2026 tour. [00:11:53] Speaker A: Done. [00:11:57] Speaker B: So Levin, as we've said, you often, you know, hop, skip and jump to somewhere else for these workshops that you run with with the groups that are lucky enough to jump on with you. But this time you've decided to stick to your own backya. Tell us a little bit about this. [00:12:11] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly right. Greg thought I'd Yeah. Just show off my own backyard for a. I do get around a fair bit obviously here with, particularly with the astro stuff. So I thought well, time to show it off to a few others. And so I decided to create this one around Victoria T. 11. I forgot what it is. 1112 days. I've forgotten. [00:12:34] Speaker B: 11 night, 12 day, 12 days. [00:12:36] Speaker C: There we go. Got to read my own tour to figure that one out. And look, it kicks off first night in Melbourne. We have a get together dinner and a few drinks just here in Melbourne so that everybody gets to know each other. And then we're actually heading up to spend the first evening with Richard Taddy. There he is, there's the man. We're going to do a one night workshop with Richard out at his property at Restrata. So we'll have the afternoon there with him and he'll run everybody through just to sort of give them a basic understanding for astrophotography and basically set them up for the rest of the trip. The tour is not focused per se on astrophotography, but it's certainly incorporated in it and will be a part of it. So I thought it'd be a good idea if get a bit of education off Richard and as I say, take him out to restaurant. As you know, Richard and I run a few tours together in the past. So on this one he's helping out with that one night workshop that he's doing from there up to Lake Tyrrell and we've got three nights there all up to have a good look around the salt lake and the bus and. And it's a great time of year for exactly what you're looking at there, the Milky Way Arch. That time of year in September it's the Milky Way arches in the west. So we should get some shots exactly like that. From there after three days head down to the Grampians. Just the one night there and I'll be honest, it was more just about breaking up the drive. But having said that, the Grampians is pretty awesome in its own right. So we'll do the silo tour on the way down and a few other bits and places will drop in along the way, spend the night there, but then we head down to the sea part of it to the Great Ocean Road and three nights there with doing all the usual places and some of the unusual places. So usual 12 apostles which you can see on that one, but also got a few sneaky places along the coastline that we can go to to get some nice images and that sort of thing. So we've got three nights there. [00:14:37] Speaker B: Yep. [00:14:38] Speaker C: And then we move on to quite a unique opportunity. One way to Cape Otway Lighthouse or light station as they call it. And basically I'm taking over the Entire light station there and really we've got. Yeah, because it's very limited accommodation. You can only stay at the light keepers cottage and lodge and so I'm just taking over the whole thing so we'll have the whole place to ourselves for the night. [00:15:04] Speaker B: That's awesome. [00:15:04] Speaker C: Yeah, that's. Yeah, yeah. It's very, very unique location. It's national park, quite remote really. There's no food there, no, nothing. I've got to figure out how to feed everybody. No, no, I will, I promise. But. [00:15:17] Speaker B: So, yeah, nothing wrong with a. [00:15:20] Speaker C: Nothing wrong with snack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could be cheese crackers and a bottle of water that night. [00:15:24] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly, yeah. [00:15:27] Speaker C: And then the next day continue further around the coast. We'll hit one of the waterfalls inland a little bit and then round to Apollo Bay and that sort of stuff. Spend the night at Anglesey and head back to the lighthouse at Name slips my mind. Is it written there? God, I hope I've written it there because I just can't think of it. Thank you. Good. You're a very good assistant. Thanks. I just can't think of it. [00:15:54] Speaker B: I've trained him well. I've trained him well. [00:15:56] Speaker C: You have indeed. Yeah, I know, I'm impressed. And then that's really it. Then back to Geelong for a final goodbye lunch and then I'll drop everybody back at the airport and say goodbye. So. Yeah. [00:16:09] Speaker B: And so how big is the group that you hope to take? [00:16:12] Speaker C: Taking eight on this one. Eight in total. And I got to admit I was a little bit wondering how tour would go because it is very close to home. And as I say, the other tours I've done have generally been to distant locations. But this one, being close to home, I wasn't too sure how much of a pickup I'd get on it. But I was very pleased that I had seven bookings. So seven out of the eight are already filled within the first two days. [00:16:40] Speaker A: Oh, wow. Okay. [00:16:41] Speaker C: That's amazing. So that there's one. One spot left, one spot less. Yeah. So once again I've sort of come onto the show with not much to advertise. [00:16:50] Speaker A: Oh, that's right. [00:16:51] Speaker C: Let's offer this to it. Yeah, yeah. So amazing. There is still. There is still a place to go. Sorry, a place left on that one. So if anybody's interested. Yeah, just jump on the website and yeah, just follow the book now thing and it'll sort of take you through the process and all the rest of it. That was a place. [00:17:09] Speaker B: There you go. [00:17:09] Speaker C: Some local knowledge. [00:17:12] Speaker A: And is it the round The Twist Lighthouse from that show round. [00:17:16] Speaker C: Yeah, I believe so. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The other one, Airlie Beach. Sorry, that's one place I was trying to think of. There's a lighthouse at Airy beach there and. [00:17:24] Speaker B: Yeah, so day two's in Bendigo, near Bendigo. You can drop into the Lucky Straps headquarters for a behind the scene tour. [00:17:31] Speaker C: Actually that is a good idea. [00:17:33] Speaker A: Or we go the other way around and I'll just follow yous around while you all learn off Richard and I'll steal some of his brain knowledge about astrophotography without his knowing why not. I'll hide behind an old rusty tractor or something that he's taking from. [00:17:47] Speaker C: I can't count above eight. I've got to take my shoes and socks off to go any higher than that. So if one more tag's along, we'll never know. [00:17:53] Speaker A: No one will ever know. [00:17:54] Speaker C: No one will ever know. Exactly. [00:17:56] Speaker B: And so what? [00:17:57] Speaker A: Just. [00:17:58] Speaker B: We don't need to talk about pricing here because folks can make inquiries on your website. But what's included in the cost for a seat? [00:18:08] Speaker C: Basically everything with the exception of flying in and out of Melbourne. You just got to get yourself to Melbourne. Your accommodations in your own private room every night. As I said at Cape Otway, because we take over the Lightkeepers cottage and the lodge, it is shared accommodation there insofar as it's like a four bedroom house and a five bedroom house. So everybody still gets their own bedroom, but it's just shared lounge, kitchen, all that sort of thing. But everywhere else you got your own individual room. Wherever we go includes breakfast and dinner. I don't include lunch only because everybody in the past has said too much food, you're overfeeding us, we're stuck. So by popular demand I've actually cut the lunches out. But as I say, breakfast, lunch included. Transport me, Richard. Yeah, yeah, everything. There's an optional helicopter flight if you want to do it at the Great Ocean Road as well. Just the standard sort of scenic helicopter flight. There's an optional extra. So. Yeah, but basically, as I say, if you show up, I kind of look after you from that point on. And all you got to do is buy your own lunch and the occasional coffee and you're right. [00:19:18] Speaker B: Nice. That sounds pretty cool. Let it all go. Just show up. I like that. [00:19:23] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Now, of course, this isn't the only tour that you're running. You're running some more this year and next year and the year after. You've even announced 2028 tours. That's a bit Obnoxious, don't you think? Don't you think, mate? I think it's a bit obnoxious. No. [00:19:39] Speaker A: I don't know what I'm doing next week. Hey, I know, it's amazing. [00:19:45] Speaker C: And that has been my problem. I was much the same. It just. It was difficult to get organized so far in advance. But at the same time, customers and guests need time to be able to plan and sort out their own lives with holidays or whatever they need. For those who are lucky, retired. Yeah, that's true. Doesn't that matter so much? But for everybody else who's working. Yeah. You know, you got to plan ahead. So I've sort of reversed it a little bit and launched tours for 2027 and 2028. Yep. A lot more in 2028, because I'll just have more time on my hands then to be able to do all these tours. But I've also just changed my tactics with this as well. And not so much changing the tactic. It's just a case of I've just revised the process that I'm doing with these tours in the future. So when having to make a full booking on the tour with a deposit and that sort of stuff, what you can do is just give an expression of interest. So if you look at any of these tours and one of the grabs in and think, yeah, gee, I'd like to do that, then they can just register an expression of interest with me. There's no charge for doing that, it's free, no deposit required, no nothing. And once I finalize a tour, because I'll be brutally honest, I haven't actually organized some of these yet, but they're to places that I go regularly. So it's very straightforward now for me to just organize one fairly quickly. But if you give me an expression of interest, then what that does is once a tour is organized and I have firm dates and a firm price, then contact you first and you'll get first crack at joining the tour. And if you want to, great. Then you pay your deposit and we sort of. If you change your mind and you can't make it, great, no problems at all. Nothing lost, no. No harm, no foul. So it's just sort of a way where people can kind of express their interest in joining the tours. Because without sounding well up myself, my tours do feel very fast. I'm limited in how many I can do a year at this stage, generally only 2 to 3. And so when I ounce of tour, they usually fill within one to two days. So this is sort of giving people the opportunity to get in ahead of the rest, ahead of the pack, if you like. Yeah. And so, yeah, just. You just register your expression of interest. Once the tools confirmed, announced, released dates, Steward Price settled, all that sort of thing, then I'll let you know first before I ever publicly. And so you'll get first crack to join the tool. [00:22:21] Speaker B: Amazing. [00:22:22] Speaker A: And for those who might be listening on audio on their morning walk or something later on to this podcast, I'll just quickly read through them all. So there's a Victoria Sea to salt, that's 2026 that's available. That's the one that we just went through in detail. Norway, 2026 is already booked out. [00:22:43] Speaker C: Yeah, that's in Victoria. One's in September. Yeah, Norway's in September. That's one I'm in about three weeks time. And. Yeah, that's all. And then after that, that one, I got to admit, you should. [00:22:54] Speaker B: It's an amazing opportunity. [00:22:56] Speaker C: And you're taking Richard along. Yes, I am, yes. Yeah, Richard's joining me on that one. So I think. Well, I know he's excited as well, because as much as he does his stars, he's never actually been under the aurora, you know what I mean? Like, he's. He's seen this southern aurora like always, like we do. So fingers crossed we'll get a decent overhead aurora while we're up there. And. Yeah, yeah, the first time he's experienced that. So, yeah, so he's very much looking forward to it as well. [00:23:23] Speaker B: That's amazing. [00:23:26] Speaker A: And then the rest of these. So into 2027, there's Tasmania East coast in April 2027, Victoria Salt to Sea in April 2027. And then into 2028, Tasmania East coast again, late March, Victoria salt to sea, late April, New Zealand, south island, mid September 2028, Norway, early October 2028. And they're all on Levin's website, Rearview photography. [00:23:55] Speaker B: I know that that's work for you, but it must be hard not to be excited about going on a photography experience. Even though you're doing all the hard yards, you know, you're organizing, you've got to worry about everybody. Do you still get a buzz about the future travel prospect? [00:24:12] Speaker C: Absolutely. Yeah. Look, I. I know it sounds crazy, I shouldn't, but I actually really enjoy doing them. I really do. They're just good fun. I've made so many friends out of it. I really have. And in fact, I was just one of the guys. Fellow by the name of Manjil. He's up in Sydney and He came with me down to Tassie and he's also coming to Norway with us, so. And for those, I probably shouldn't. Okay on the quiet, but people who come and join the tour, I'll give them a little cup, a little. A coffee cup. It's really good sort of stuff. That way at night when we're out taking Astro, I can give them a coffee and a tea or a soup or whatever, and it just sort of kicks everybody along and. Yeah, spurs them on for the night. Anyway, so I just finished sending him his second cup and when he. He did his expression of interest today, and in the bottom of that, he said, and I expect a third cup, but as I said to him, three mugs and you're out, mate. That's it. Yeah, so obviously, you know, I make lots of friends out of this and I just really enjoy doing it. I honestly do. To me, it's. The hard work is in the planning. The fun is when you're actually running it. It's, it's. That's, that's the fun bit and that's what I enjoy the most. So, yeah, really do enjoy it. [00:25:25] Speaker B: Oh, that's really cool. That's very cool. So, folks, you've, you've heard it here first, obviously. Lots of tours on offer on, on Levin's website. If you head to rearview.photography.com. is that right? [00:25:39] Speaker A: No, just dot photography. [00:25:40] Speaker C: Just rev. Just. Yeah, just rearview. [00:25:41] Speaker B: Oh, review photography. Sorry, my bad. Anyway, Justin's dropped a link in the, in the chat. It'll also be in the comments. Yeah, go check it out. And if it's something they think, well, look, maybe I could work towards that 20, 28. You've got a couple of years to plan and save and, you know, beef up your lens kit because, you know, you always need new lenses when you go on holidays. [00:26:01] Speaker C: Exactly. It's a good excuse. Yeah, yeah. [00:26:03] Speaker B: Put in your expression of interest and, and find out what it's all about. [00:26:06] Speaker A: Yeah. I think if I was going on one of your trips, Levin, I'd have to buy that new Canon 14 mil, 1.4 probably. I couldn't. Couldn't help myself. [00:26:15] Speaker C: Don't hold back, Justin. Go for it. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Yeah. You only live once, Jay. Just go for it. [00:26:20] Speaker A: Oh, look. [00:26:22] Speaker B: Oh, there we go. [00:26:23] Speaker A: It's Manjil. I heard my name. And Levin, honestly. [00:26:26] Speaker C: Oh, my God. [00:26:26] Speaker A: He's like, do his tour. You will not be disappointed. How good is that? [00:26:31] Speaker C: Yeah, Stalking me or what? I know he might be. He's after more. [00:26:37] Speaker A: Hang on, hang on, Levin. This Isn't a burner account you've set up to comment while you're on your own show? Just, you know, like, oh, tell you [00:26:45] Speaker C: this story about this one guy checks in the mail. [00:26:48] Speaker B: Yeah, nice, nice. Wonderful. [00:26:51] Speaker C: All right. He's a great, nice guy. [00:26:55] Speaker B: Very cool. Very cool indeed. [00:26:57] Speaker C: I've also just to finish off, I've also completely revamped my processing for when customers make a booking and that sort of stuff. It's still now centralized in one spot with Internet access, the whole deal. So it's sped up the whole process a lot easier now. So pay up, gateways. A lot easier the whole deal. So. Yeah, so it's just another. The other thing I've been doing for the last couple of months when I've got nothing else to do. [00:27:20] Speaker A: But yeah, yep, Nice, nice. [00:27:23] Speaker B: Customer experience is everything. [00:27:26] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:27:27] Speaker B: Justin's taught me. [00:27:28] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what we do. [00:27:30] Speaker B: That's what we do. [00:27:31] Speaker A: It's what we do. All right, should we go? [00:27:34] Speaker B: That's enough about Levin. Let's talk some news. [00:27:36] Speaker C: I'm going to play the jingle. [00:27:40] Speaker A: Hang on a bit. Make sure I'm in the right screen. Yep. [00:27:45] Speaker B: And it's the time for the camera life news. There's lots going on. So every week I sit down with a fresh coffee first thing Monday morning. I know it's the worst time to do it, but I scan all of the websites, the rumor sites, the news sites, all of them, and I gather the news. And if you thought last week had a lot of lens announcements, wait till you get a load of what's going on this week. So of course we are a week. Actually it's this week, I think at the end of this week, CP plus, which is a huge trade show that's held in Yokohama in Japan every year now seems and more often than not, CP plus is all about celebrating new lens releases. And so all the brands jump on board because they don't want to be outdone. But also we see a lot of new brands or smaller brands pushing forward with bolder and bolder lens options. And CP plus seems to be the place to do it in years gone by. It used to be that. What was the big one they used to have in Germany? Photokina. [00:28:44] Speaker A: Photokina, yeah. [00:28:45] Speaker B: That was pre covered, wasn't it? [00:28:47] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't think it ever come back after Covid, I don't think. Unless they didn't one. But yeah, yeah. [00:28:53] Speaker B: And of course we don't. We stopped having trade shows here in Australia years ago, which was terrible. But other brands are starting to bring them back, which is great. But anyway, so, yeah, lots of newsers to talk, lots of users, lots of lenses to celebrate and announce today. I won't go into all of them because there's a bloody lot, you know, for every system. Leica are getting replicas made of their old lenses by third party brands. We've got TT Artisans, we've got seven artisans, Tamron Sigma. Who else? [00:29:30] Speaker A: Well, should we start with Tamron? [00:29:32] Speaker B: Let's start with Tamron because we like Tamron. [00:29:34] Speaker A: The one that. Hang on, I can't have that on Sony Alpha Rumors. I'll pull it up somewhere else. Hang on, where is it? [00:29:41] Speaker B: The new. The new Tamron lens? [00:29:43] Speaker A: Yeah, the Tamron. So this was the one that I believe Glenn Lavender hinted at while he was on our show. [00:29:49] Speaker B: He did. He didn't reveal anything. [00:29:51] Speaker A: He didn't reveal anything. He's not getting in trouble. But he said, where are we? He said there's a lens coming and he was going to take it on his next tour, I think he said. And this is it, the 35 to 102.8. So it was only rumored last week, I'm pretty sure. And then it come out. Is that right? What, have we already talked about it? [00:30:15] Speaker B: No, it had been rumored. [00:30:16] Speaker A: It was rumored, but no one really [00:30:19] Speaker B: knew what the focal range was going to be because I don't think people quite believe that a 35 to 100 [00:30:24] Speaker A: would work well, I mean, because they've already got a 35 to 150. Yeah, but this was sort of like. It was a bit weird, but it makes sense because I was like, it's got to be lighter if they're going to do. It's going to be way lighter than the 35 to 150. And it, and it is. Whether it's. It's a bit of an odd duck in terms of who, who's going to want this lens because it's not quite wide enough for most people to be a one and done lens, I don't think. But if it is wide enough, if 35 is as wide as you like to shoot, especially like while you're traveling or whatever, it'd be a pretty good one and done lens. If you lean more towards the, the slightly telephoto more, you know, some portraits and things like that. But then just back, back to 35 for your wide. Be a pretty good all rounder. [00:31:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it'd be a good travel lens. [00:31:17] Speaker C: Yeah, sorry, that's what I was gonna say. No, no, just. I was agreeing with you. Yeah, I think, yeah, if you're sort of traveling and your interest is people and culture and that sort of stuff, it's probably a good range for that because it's one lens that would cover 90% of the sort of stuff you do. [00:31:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:31] Speaker C: As opposed to wide angle landscape or zooming in for bird photography or something like that. So. [00:31:36] Speaker B: So yeah, but even 100 mils is nothing to sneeze at. Like you can still get a lot of tight compression out of that. Chris Nichols on Petapixel, when they did their review of it, their pre production review, he was quite favorable for it and he hates 35 miles. Chris Nichols but he said this is actually a really hit. They were labeling it a street photography lens, which I don't agree with. [00:32:02] Speaker A: Maybe if you want to be able to do street, like street. Traditional street photography and also street portraits. Yeah, maybe with one lens, like if that's what you're sort of aiming for. But yeah, I don't know if. Yeah, I don't know if it's more of a. More of a travel lens than a street photography lens. Yeah, I think just a general purpose knock around travel lens. The other time I thought it could be useful is if your telephoto, if you're into birding maybe and your telephoto tends to be a 100 to 500 or something like that with a bit of a slower aperture because that's the nature of those longer sort of zoom lenses. This could be a good in betweener. So you might, you could have a three lens kit, you know, a 15 to 35, this 35 to 100 and then your 100 to 500 longer lens. It would be a good way to cover that whole range. Have your faster 2.8 aperture on your mid, mid range sort of lens and then, yeah, have your longer, you know, 5.6 to 7.1 or whatever, 100 to 500. I don't know, it's. Yeah, I mean it's good. Tamron always knocking lenses out. [00:33:14] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, the other thing that they announced alongside this is the new Tamron Link, which is an accessory that pairs with the lens utility mobile app that they've also released. Can you jump to that article next, Jay? It's a, it's like the fourth one from the bottom. New Tamron Link. [00:33:30] Speaker A: Yeah, got it on Nick on Rumors. There we go. [00:33:38] Speaker B: So this is a little Bluetooth dongle that you plug into your Tamron lenses. [00:33:43] Speaker C: Yep. [00:33:44] Speaker B: And it pairs with an app so you can actually fine tune your lens there's a whole bunch of different things that you can. You can tinker with. But yeah, basically you plug this in, you set up your lens, you unplug it, you put your lens on your camera and the lens behaves exactly how you wanted it to in your app. And then if you want to change it and go back, you plug the little thing back into the base of the lens and you change the settings on it. So you can change customizations, you can change, you know, maybe how far you focus. Oh, how did that get in there? [00:34:16] Speaker A: Oh, just an ad. Oh, just an ad on nikonarumas. Sorry about that. [00:34:21] Speaker C: Wow. [00:34:23] Speaker B: Oh, you will stoop to Lowe's. [00:34:26] Speaker C: Oh, that's. [00:34:27] Speaker A: I didn't do it. Okay, so is that. [00:34:30] Speaker C: Proud of you? [00:34:31] Speaker A: Yeah. So all of this stuff is in there. Ring stopper, Astro focus lock. Interesting. It's pretty detailed. There it is again. [00:34:43] Speaker B: Oh, look, another ad. Sorry, Raisy, this is Justin just hogging the airways. [00:34:47] Speaker C: I'm wondering, once you've got it set up so it seems to be more than just a straight calibration, is it like presets in a camera for different purposes? Is that what. [00:34:59] Speaker B: Yeah, probably. I haven't read the whole article, but yeah. And like, this is a first gen. Keep in mind, was it Tamron that always had a usb? [00:35:09] Speaker A: I was gonna say they've had a dock for a long time. Various different. So it used to be a dock that I think was. Was actually a mount that you had to connect. [00:35:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:18] Speaker A: And then. And then they went to usb like plugin and then I'm guessing this is just the way to go to the next step where you can just use your phone to do it instead of having to plug it into your computer or whatever. And so I'm assuming there's a few, quite, quite a few lenses that already have this USB C. But I don't know how far back that goes because, yeah, it used to be a. A dock, the Tamron dock. I can't remember what it was called. [00:35:44] Speaker B: Wasn't it like the base cap of the lens? It was kind of beefier and it had a poor. [00:35:48] Speaker C: Exactly. [00:35:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:35:51] Speaker B: So. But I think it's clever. I think it's. I think it's really clever. [00:35:54] Speaker C: It's just my understanding, look, it might have changed the reason, but my understanding years ago was that it was just to do the very fine calibration of your lens for your camera, but they seem to be moving. In other words, once it's set, that's it, it's done. But this Seems to be moving a little bit beyond that, maybe. [00:36:10] Speaker A: Yeah, well, sorry, I was just saying, Bruce, he says Sigma's done it for ages. Yeah. I'm trying to remember whether I had a Tamron or a Sigma one. I think I had a Tamron one. So I wonder if Sigma's done this thing, like this app USB thing for ages. I actually haven't heard of it, but maybe I'm behind. [00:36:31] Speaker B: I think, like early days, it was just off PC. [00:36:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:36:34] Speaker B: You could only plug it into your computer and download firmware, like for firmware updates and stuff like that. But it made it maybe quicker in some ways but not in others. But I think this is just a great step because I think then we're just one step away from them. Just. I mean, all cameras have Bluetooth now, right? You know, it's just one step away from allowing your camera, although this may not work with third party, but allowing your camera to, you know, to offer that calibration option for your lenses. Yeah, you know, it's just. It's just firmware and software, isn't it, really? [00:37:05] Speaker A: So, yeah, Tintype man says something else to lose. Yeah, solid take. It is small and just going back to the lens, a few people say. Rick Nelson said the 35 to 100 is just another lens paving the way to the. The 24 to 202.8 dream lens. Yeah, it is. That's what we're all waiting for. [00:37:30] Speaker B: Inching towards it. [00:37:32] Speaker A: Yeah. So close. David Skinner agrees. He agrees with Petapixel that it's the street lens across the street for candid stuff without being imposing. [00:37:42] Speaker B: Yeah, that's true. [00:37:43] Speaker A: It depends on the style of street photography. [00:37:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:37:46] Speaker B: Which is. Yeah, it's wrong, but yes, it's a style that's wrong. [00:37:51] Speaker A: You must shoot primes only. [00:37:52] Speaker B: No, I'm joking. David Skinner's got quite a good eye for street. I've been on a couple of walks with him. [00:37:59] Speaker A: Okay, what next? [00:38:01] Speaker B: Sigma? There's a 15 mil f 1.4 that's been leaked. [00:38:08] Speaker A: We talked about that last week, I think. [00:38:10] Speaker B: Did we? [00:38:10] Speaker A: Yeah, but maybe this is an. As an update because this is a new article. [00:38:14] Speaker B: This is a newer article, but yeah. [00:38:17] Speaker A: Oh, it's a new image. So last week it mustn't have been. Yeah, new image. [00:38:22] Speaker B: And this is for APS and I think for Sony as well. [00:38:25] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Because last week I thought it was full frame, but now it is APS C. So. All right, cool. [00:38:31] Speaker B: There's another leaked Sigma lens, a 35F 1.4 digi Mark 2 art lens is also on the cards apparently. So there's a couple of images out. There's a 7artisans. I won't bring them all up. Justin. [00:38:48] Speaker A: Okay. [00:38:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:38:49] Speaker B: This is 7 Artisans 135 Mil Fe. Sorry, email lens with autofocus 1.8. We talked about. The Tamron Samyang at CP plus will also display two different variants of a 300 Mil Fe primes. I don't know why they're doing two different ones. That's a bit weird. But we'll find out more about that and get back to you. Voigtlander have just dropped a 40 mil F2 for Z mount and there's a brand which I'd never heard of. It's called Mandla M A N D L E r. They've released a 35 F2 for M mount and that is the one that I was talking about earlier. It's a complete reproduction of the optical formula of the original Leica Summicron 35F2. So. Yeah. [00:39:35] Speaker A: Okay. Crazy. And it's only. Next week's going to be crazier because. Yeah, CP plus only happens this weekend basically. So it's just about to start. [00:39:46] Speaker B: Yeah. So these are teasers, these leaked images. I'm sure they're purposefully let out probably. [00:39:53] Speaker C: I was just going to suggest exactly that actually. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:56] Speaker C: Because all the timing. [00:39:57] Speaker B: Oh, and we would just announce it. [00:39:59] Speaker A: Who would have thought before we go to the final. Well, what I think is probably the final rumor, which we haven't. Haven't mentioned yet. The big. The big canon rumor that that's been floating around. Samantha Olson says. Did you know that Creative Live was bought out and is returning under a new name? I did and I did want to talk about that update. I forgot to put it on our running sheet. So we've talked about a few times. So Creative Live basically got shut down. Was it profitable or whatever? It was going to just get turned off. Someone bought it and it's actually resuming its first new classes now. Basically there are new classes starting to happen on Creative Live now from the new owners. Live streams, I think first and then there'll be more courses and things starting to roll out. So if that was something that you were into. I know I binged tons of stuff on Creative Live over the years. It would be worth going back. I don't know if now's the time to jump in and what their offerings are, whether they've got all access memberships again or if it's course by course or what they do. I haven't looked into the pricing or anything like that, but certainly worth. It would be worth having a look and seeing they had some big names. Let me see if I can find it. Have a look on. Here we go. It's a Petapixel article. Creative Live is back with new classes. The Rise, Fall and rise again. So basically they're saying, where are the lists of people that they're gonna have on? Come on. Oh, here we go. The announcement listed several instructors participating in the relaunch, including Jared Platt, Mark Wallace, Lisa Carney, Karen Allsop, Andrew Scrivani, Pijersa and others across photo and video disciplines. So, yeah, it's, it's, it's happening. It's coming back. [00:42:03] Speaker B: That's cool. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it is cool. Well, that's good to see. It was a shame that it was going to just disappear. [00:42:09] Speaker B: So. [00:42:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad someone's taken up the reins and is putting some, some money and effort behind it to get it back on track. [00:42:17] Speaker B: Yeah, very cool. Let's talk canon and let's talk about our good friend Jeff Cable, who was a guest on our show. What would it have been sort of midway through last year, pre beef up. [00:42:30] Speaker A: I can't remember, but yeah, I can't either. [00:42:32] Speaker B: I should have looked it up Anyway. So Jeff Cable is. He is a photographer for Team USA Olympics Team. Huge ice hockey fan. Kind of started off shooting his local ice hockey. What is it? What is a ice hockey? Is it a field? Is it a rink? What is it? [00:42:50] Speaker A: Rink. [00:42:54] Speaker B: Go for rink. And yeah, and then he picked up this gig as a sports photographer. His day job is shooting, you know, parties and events and bar mitzvahs in San Francisco. And every couple of years he, he packs up, packs all his cannon gear up and heads off to wherever the Olympics, whether it's the summer or the Winter Olympics are being held. And he's there to photograph Team usa. And this year he did a lot of stuff, more so at the rink for the hockey and ice skating, things like that, than he did sort of traveling to other venues. Because I remember when he spoke to us when he was in Paris for the last Olympics, he was spending so much time on public transport because Paris is such a big city, some of the events were hours away from, from the main sort of Olympic area. So. So, yeah, I'm sure he's pretty pleased to do less traveling this time. But it seems that our friend Jeff is at the center of a potential rumor scandal. Do you want to bring this one up, Justin? [00:43:53] Speaker A: It's quite funny yeah, it is. I, I mean yes. So is it this one? Yeah, the R3 Mark 2 rumor. [00:44:03] Speaker B: So just to provide a little bit of context. So Canon photographers have access. These, you know, high end Canon photographers, when they go to an Olympics they basically have a Canon store or a store room where they can go and borrow whatever gear they need or want for the day. Now Jeff takes all of his own gear over but I did notice very on in the, early on in the piece he had the new 7 to 14 not long after it had been announced and while he was at the Olympics. So he gets all of this gear and, and Jeff, Jeff does a blog, a regular blog on his own website. I don't know where he finds the time but he also does a lot of behind the scenes what he's doing for the day. Just interesting little video reels that he puts on his socials and some keen eyed, potentially keen eyed viewer has looked at one of his videos and believed that he may have revealed a Canon R3 Mark II. It's a very thin, thin thread from rumor to reality. I, I don't see it myself but so basically he, he did a behind the scenes where you could see all of this camera gear that was available to them. It was just, you know, R3s, R5 2s, R1s and then just racks and racks and racks of lenses. You know, Justin's Playground basically. [00:45:17] Speaker C: And, and someone paused the video earlier today and it's. [00:45:22] Speaker A: You did? [00:45:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:45:23] Speaker B: Isn't it incredible what they have access to? [00:45:25] Speaker C: Staggering, staggering how much gear they had there and. Yeah, yeah. I'd hate to do the maths on the value of it. [00:45:30] Speaker B: Like the insurance. [00:45:32] Speaker C: Oh yeah, yeah, that as well. [00:45:34] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. But I mean every Olympics they tend to give pro photographers new or pre production gear. I think it might have been Jeff who told us that he had something else before it had been released and he had to be careful with who could see it because he's standing in a pit with a bunch of other photographers who know cameras. Yeah. And so he couldn't remember that. [00:45:55] Speaker A: Yeah, he's had that many, many times. Yeah. Where he's testing gear at the Olympics. [00:46:00] Speaker B: Anyway, to learn more about Jeff you can go to his, go to his socials or his website. It's just Jeff cable photography. He's very proud of Team usa. There was one of his last clips was when the women's ice hockey to the USA women's ice hockey team won and there's a camera pan of the, of the, the rink and you can see just See Jeff down in the bottom corner go. Yes, yes. Like this against the window with his big camera. It was pretty cool. He's a very passionate hockey lover, but [00:46:28] Speaker C: he was such an interesting guy too. On your interview when you did do it, he was just riveting to listen to so much. He was just such an interesting guy. And then you combine that with the photography and all the stuff that he does and yeah, it was a very, very, really good interview. But just an exceptional sort of guy to listen to. [00:46:50] Speaker B: He is, yeah. And he does, he does news segments, he does a lot of interviews. I think ours was kind of like one of the only sort of live sit down podcast interviews for that duration. So we'll take that credit. But if you, if you want to see more about that, you know, go back and have a look on the camera life podcast YouTube channel and you'll find the episode where we interviewed Jeff Cable. But also have a look at the Lucky Straps website on the blog page. There is a blog there where we talk about his time on the show. So you can check that out as well. [00:47:21] Speaker A: All right. I was just going to say we've really teased people with this, this rumor. We haven't told them what the rumor is. [00:47:28] Speaker B: We just told them about Jeff Cable. [00:47:31] Speaker A: So basically I think the, it's spurred from this. I think that the things people Notice that there's two racks of R1s, unless I'm missing something here in the picture, there's two, two shelves of Canon R1s, which is their flagship sports camera. It's going to be the most used camera at the Olympics other than probably the R5 mark II as well. And I think because there's been rumors of an R3 Mark II circulating, people assumed that potentially they've put the R3 Mark II internals into an R1 body as a prototype to get tested at the Olympics. And that's why it's got a different label, R1 with this little FV120 or whatever. I think they, someone's done some analysis on this, this photo and I don't know it. I. That makes no sense to me. I think if they were going to label it something, they would just label it what it is or keep it hidden. You know, if you have three prototype R3 Mark 2s, you'd probably just have them in a, a case that can't get photographed or something and just hand them out to the one or two photographers that are going to actually test the new camera because this looks like a shelf that they're Going to be passing these out to anyone that needs a spare body or whatever. Yeah. But the, the, the thing that was weird is where is it the actual. So I think that was kind of debunked. But there's these specs floating around from a Weibo account called Camera Beta and they're saying that. Hang on, the. The R3 Mark II may support dual resolution and it's been unveiled at the Milan Winter Olympics. It's not as high resolution. Hang on, it's not as high resolution for the more experimental product. That doesn't make any sense. The new machine supports switching between two native resolutions of 54 million pixels and 24 million pixels respectively. So you can get 40 shots per second at full resolution. 90 shots per second at 24. That's what it's saying. This is a rumor though. On a Weibo account, unsubstantiated. That uses an enhanced Bayer array to pass through adjacent images in 24 million pixel mode. Exclamation mark. The combination of elements increases the sensitivity by about 80% compared to the EOS R3 and combines three original ISO technologies to achieve a top notch high perceptual performance. Something. I don't know. Look, to me it sounds very, very unlikely that they would release a better camera than the R1 in the R3 Mark 2. Just doesn't make sense. The R1. [00:50:31] Speaker B: I'm planning on doing an R1 Mark 2 as well, but it's too soon surely. [00:50:35] Speaker C: Well. [00:50:35] Speaker A: Well then it would be just the R1 Mark 2 and I could understand if the R3. If the R3 Mark 2 was going to be anything. It would be. Yeah. Sorry, Randy Lynn. I know I should get an ad blocker. It's like they just hit me. These rumors. Sites have so many ads on them. [00:50:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:50:54] Speaker A: Holy ads. It's insane. Thanks for joining us though. Appreciate you having here. But Yeah. I hate bringing up the rumors. Any of the rumors ones. That's why if it's a new lens I'll be like, all right, I gotta find it on. On the actual lens website. Because you hear the. They're getting outrageous. No one even clicks on them. Some of them are ours. And this like they're annoying. [00:51:17] Speaker B: Wasn't there. [00:51:17] Speaker A: It's annoying. Anyway. [00:51:21] Speaker C: All right. [00:51:22] Speaker A: Tight man says Canon have had a great week. Not only the Olympics, but the Andrew photo was shot on a cannon as well. Is that a. Is that a Prince Andrew? What? What photo? [00:51:33] Speaker B: The artist formerly known as Prince Andrew. Yeah. [00:51:38] Speaker C: In the back of the car. Have you seen. [00:51:40] Speaker B: They went into the Lou Someone printed it and put it in a frame and used like double sided tape or whatever and they stuck it to the wall in the Louvre while no one was looking with a little plaque under it saying something about a P file, so. [00:51:54] Speaker C: Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. Too far. Too far out of control. [00:52:00] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe not in the Louvre. Keep that stuff out. [00:52:02] Speaker B: Yeah, keep the classy people. [00:52:05] Speaker C: I reckon that journalist has made his lifetime worth of income in that one photo though. [00:52:09] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, Yep. [00:52:11] Speaker C: As bad as a photo it is, but it's got the traction. [00:52:14] Speaker B: It's a shocker, isn't it? [00:52:18] Speaker C: Yeah, but that's the point of it, I think. [00:52:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh absolutely, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Any other news? No news per se. There is an article there about Canon's use of lens correction which we touched on last week, but it's not the sort of article that has some punchy headlines. I, I say just go out and read is called Where I see it Now I can't bloody find it. [00:52:46] Speaker A: It's in there somewhere. [00:52:47] Speaker C: But love, Love it or hate it, I think it was. [00:52:49] Speaker A: Yeah, Digital correction. [00:52:50] Speaker B: Love it or hate it. Yeah, Digital corrections are here to stay. It's on Canon Rumors if you want to go and have a read of that. It's just an opinion piece but you know, it's interesting because it is something we've been discussing as a group. [00:53:01] Speaker A: Yeah. I was going to say we've touched on it a fair bit and I'm assuming it's a similar opinion to what we come at it with. It's like, like this is the tech that, that they're proceeding with. Yeah, it is working. It's not what everyone wants and you know there are other options around if that's not what you're into. But it helps make lenses smaller, lighter, cheaper for what they're giving us. So no, not necessarily better, but yeah, heavier. [00:53:26] Speaker B: Well, they might think it is. [00:53:29] Speaker C: I look at it from the point of view, if we've come way past the pinhole camera, so what's wrong with a bit of technology to help? But it hasn't gone so far as to be AI, as in AI Generated Image, that sort of stuff. It hasn't gone. So to me it's just a. It's just a nice progression of technology but still have the. You still put your own artistic effort into it, if you know what I mean. So yeah, Soron's fine. [00:53:56] Speaker A: We won't go too deep into it. But there was another article about. Actually it was on Petapixel about that exact thing. In another opinion article Called the first mainstream manufacturer to put AI in a camera. Will regret it. [00:54:14] Speaker C: I saw that. [00:54:15] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's like they're basically saying it is going to happen because there will be. There will be a product manager slash marketing team that are like, this is going to sell cameras. Someone's. Someone's going to take the plunge and go for it. And this opinion of the article, go and read it. Jaron Snyder wrote it. He's one of the guys on the Petapixel podcast and obviously part of the Petapixel team. And he was. Yeah. The article is basically saying, like, it's going to be a huge blow to that camera company that decides to go for it and they're going to lose people because of it. [00:54:49] Speaker C: Because. [00:54:50] Speaker A: Because photographers don't want it. Yeah, photographers are happy with some tools and editing and things like that, but as soon as the camera's just creating out of thin air that. That wasn't there to start with, we start thinking, well, what are we even doing? [00:55:06] Speaker B: Yeah, especially if they introduce like in. In camera object removal, something like that, you know, where you. Oh, there's a bit in the background. [00:55:15] Speaker A: What about object generation? What about, hey, there's no bins, but I want one. [00:55:19] Speaker C: Yeah. I want a bin and a bin [00:55:21] Speaker A: chicken and a bigger bin with a dragon in it. That actually sounds fun. I might buy one. Yeah. [00:55:37] Speaker B: Another business opportunity. Just waiting. Just waiting to be plucked. Before we jump into our next segment, which is EDC cameras, I just want to read out. We won't jump into them, but I just want to read out a couple of. Watch where the YouTube videos that are worth checking out from our friends here at the Camera Life Podcast, Brett Wood, who we have had on the show, he. Last week, actually, I think it was Monday evening last week when we were live doing this, he dropped a video on his time in Iceland. It's a cinematic piece that he's put together. It goes for about 20 minutes, I think. And it's a. It's just basically all about his landscape photography. Beautiful, cinematic, you know, images and video of Iceland. So definitely work it out. Check it out. That's on Brett Wood's channel. [00:56:23] Speaker C: Really nice video. Yeah, isn't it? [00:56:25] Speaker B: It's great. [00:56:25] Speaker C: And it's, it's, it's lovely. Yeah. [00:56:27] Speaker B: And it's not overdone. [00:56:29] Speaker C: No, no, not at all. And I think one of the best things about it. I know this is going to come out the wrong way and I really don't mean it this way, but he didn't talk. There's no. Yeah, there's no dialogue, there's no nothing. It's just all beautiful vision, nicely edited with a nice bit of music and it's lovely. Yeah. I think it just like, let the imagery dialogue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if there'd been dialogue and a description, everything behind it, it would have made it, you know, worse. But it's actually really lovely video. Yeah, yeah. [00:56:58] Speaker B: So 10 out of 10 doing, you've heard it here. Levin recommends it. Greg Carrick has put out a video about why are you so serious? Are you having fun with your camera yet? And I think that's a great. A great topic about photography, but don't take it too seriously. Just get out and shoot. Just go look for light, smile, be happy, enjoy it. So, Greg, credit. Greg Carrick is up to his old tricks, which is great. Over on get the Shot, our friends at Tamarind Australia, Joe Orchard, who we had on the show here a couple of weeks ago, he interviews our upcoming guest. He got in before us, Craig Witchard over on their channel. He had a chat to Craig and I did completely. We invited him onto our show. You know, we. We gave him a seat at the big table. [00:57:45] Speaker A: I have a feeling he got on to Craig probably before us. But anyway, he said he'd record it. He had five or six in the can already ready, ready to release. Yeah, yeah. [00:57:55] Speaker B: Anyway, content. So go check out get the Shot over on Tamaran, Australia's YouTube channel and check out our good friend Craig Witch. [00:58:03] Speaker C: And. [00:58:03] Speaker B: But also some of our other past guests have been on there as well, so definitely go check that out. And finally, perfect timing. Richard Taddy put out a video called Fire in the Sky Milky Way at longer focal lengths. And that's a recent one from Richard. So I suggest you guys all head over. Not now, later. Head over and check out some of that work. [00:58:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:58:25] Speaker B: But that's it for this week's news. [00:58:28] Speaker A: Very cool. Bruce is getting on a plane. Safe travels, Bruce. Fly safe. [00:58:34] Speaker B: Yeah, be safe, buddy. [00:58:36] Speaker A: Oh, and Tony's donated 2.99 towards you getting a bin chicken, Greg. [00:58:41] Speaker B: I don't know what form that will take, but thank you, Tony. I really appreciate your generosity once again. [00:58:46] Speaker A: He's nice like that. Oh, and Jason Rogers is here. Phil Thompson's here. Oh, everyone's coming in. Very cool. [00:58:53] Speaker B: Wow. All right, let's talk edc. [00:58:58] Speaker A: Yeah, let's talk about it. I don't like EDC cameras. [00:59:05] Speaker B: Oh, here we go. [00:59:07] Speaker C: I've. [00:59:08] Speaker A: I've bought a few. I love the idea. Whenever. Whenever anyone says, like, I Take my camera everywhere with me. I'm like, I want to do that, but I never end up doing it. And I don't know what it is. The closer. [00:59:25] Speaker B: You carry cannons? [00:59:28] Speaker A: No, it's. No, I've had little. I've had a little Sony RX100. I tried that. Didn't really like the image quality. Didn't like how hard it was to shoot with it. Just wasn't very comfortable. So. All right. Sorry. Felicity Johnson says what EDC cameras, everyday carry cameras. So it's kind of like either you happy with your big camera, or most people end up buying a smaller camera that's small enough to fit in a pocket or. Or a small bag or something like that, and they just take it everywhere. They take it to get coffee or they take it on a giant plane when they fly cool places. Yeah. It's just their everyday carry camera. Yep. [01:00:10] Speaker C: And I really want compact cameras. [01:00:13] Speaker A: Yeah, a compact camera, but. [01:00:14] Speaker C: Compact camera. [01:00:15] Speaker A: But in the photography world, it's like one that's good enough that we're happy with the image quality. You know, it's like we're kind of chasing this thing that. Where you don't see the image and go, oh, I wish I'd just use my big camera, you know, and there are. There are ones that do it. So you've recently bought one. Lemon, what did you have? [01:00:39] Speaker C: All right. Is it too early? For what? [01:00:43] Speaker A: No, [01:00:46] Speaker C: let's. [01:00:46] Speaker A: What's in the box? [01:00:48] Speaker C: What's in the box? Yeah. To be honest, I've had this about three weeks now, but I thought I'd replicate Greg with his lens a few weeks ago. And do. [01:00:56] Speaker A: Yeah, let's do it. [01:00:58] Speaker C: Yeah. So I. With my flying, I do some photography from the flight deck. I'll answer more later about how safe it is. It's no problem. So I'll. I'll kill that cat straight away. But never heard that. [01:01:16] Speaker A: Say. I was going to say, hopefully not in a plane crash. [01:01:23] Speaker C: But look, over the years I have. If I'm jumping in too early here with this guy, stop me, please, because I'm not too. But look, I see lots of things that most people don't see or. Yeah, it's a very unique position that I'm in. And you do see some quite unique and amazing stuff. So over the years, I have tried lots of different rigs and cameras and all sorts of things to try and photograph it. And look, it's everything from thunderstorms to nice sunsets to sunsets when the light is on top of the cloud, not underneath the Cloud, just stuff like that. And the problem has been over the years that the original cameras I had like the Sony. Oh, oops, hang on. I think my computer just went to sleep for a second. Yeah, the A7R mark II and stuff like that. Big, bulky, unique, big brackets to try and hold it and very awkward to use. And as time went on, security gets a bit itchy when you walk through with, you know, big long brackets and clamps and connectors and that sort of stuff. Early, early days I didn't mind, but these days, yeah, the little worriers get a bit uptight about it. But so then I went to the other part of a DJI Pocket, the original Pocket and then the Pocket two and then the Pocket three. And they, I gotta say, really, really good as a general sort of thing and particularly for time lapse if I want to capture it or video, that sort of stuff. But during the day, at night time, the Cambridge just can't really compete and certainly no capability at all to do a single frame with the dji. Just can't cope with it. So. [01:03:10] Speaker A: So you mean the little gimbal one? The. The pocket. [01:03:13] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, the little. Yeah. Behind me, if you want to wait half a second just to show you. Sure, yeah. [01:03:21] Speaker A: While you get that. I forgot, Greg, that that was something I was going to put put on the thing and then I couldn't find the actual article that I originally found. But there's a rumor of a DJI Osmo Pocket 4, because we're on the 3 at the moment and it's been production. [01:03:34] Speaker B: Go on. [01:03:35] Speaker C: Sorry. [01:03:36] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. The three has been out for a little while and it's become super popular with YouTube vloggers and especially people that aren't video makers. They're just, you know, like sports people and stuff have bought that are vlogging have bought these because they take great video with very little effort. Like. Yeah, that one that Levin's got. You just flick it open. I've got one. [01:03:58] Speaker C: So you just flip it around like that turns on. Yeah, pretty clever camera pops in and. Yeah, and you can do stabilize. Look, there's no doubt it's more designed for video than for stills. There's no doubt of that. But. But it is gyro stabilized. So as you rotate it around. So I'm just trying to get it in the right spot there. And so it all, you know, keeps the camera level and it actually does a really good job in the stabilized mode. There's no doubt about it. So I just mount this to a Suction cup with a little clamp onto the window and I can use that to do create clips or videos, slow mo videos or whatever I want. And as I say for the most does a really good job and also very good for just, you know, general vlogging sort of stuff, all that sort of stuff. So good little unit during the daytime and that's the problem. Once you get to night, look in a bright lit city, it's still pretty good, not too bad. But the moment you get anywhere dark, it just falls over. It just can't cope anymore. [01:05:03] Speaker A: So you'll be Happy to know 11, you'll be happy to know that the rumored Osmo Pocket 4 is going to light up the night with its new feature of a little like pop up LED light. [01:05:17] Speaker C: That's. [01:05:17] Speaker A: No, this is the picture. Yeah, the rumored picture. And apparently yeah, it's got a little pop up like LED arm thing that comes up off the back of the gimbal and just will point an LED light at you. So from what I can tell, I don't think they've been able to increase the sensor size or anything like that to really boost up the high ISO noise reduction. And it's actually pretty good for video. It's okay considering how tiny it is. So I think they've just added this little fill LED light for people to be able to vlog in nighttime situations. [01:05:51] Speaker C: Sort of sits on top there. [01:05:52] Speaker A: You'd sort of think it comes. [01:05:55] Speaker C: It lights up your face. [01:05:56] Speaker A: Exactly. Yeah. It comes off the back of the gimbal arm. It doesn't sit on the actual camera part. It sits off the back of the gimbal arm. Yeah. And then it's just this little light. Yeah. I was going to try and find it to bring it up but I couldn't find the leaked image that was circulating. [01:06:10] Speaker C: Yeah, right. Because I'm thinking gee, if they're trying to light up the scene, good luck with that. [01:06:15] Speaker A: No, but yeah, it's just a face. Just a face. It's just a little vlogging accessory. [01:06:20] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And look, it's. That's kind of makes sense because it's certainly what they're designed for. You know, there's no doubt about it. That's they what they're meant to be for. Yeah, yeah. So great little unit. I actually love it and yeah, awesome for yeah. Doing your, you know, creating little YouTube videos and that sort of stuff. It'll do it in 4K. So let's even got little microphone built in or you can buy a separate DJI mic That Bluetooth connects to it and you wear the pedal on your, on your. [01:06:48] Speaker A: That's what I use. [01:06:48] Speaker C: And yeah, so good little unit. They really are. They're very, very happy with them and not too expensive. Got to be careful how I say that. But if the unit itself, I think they come in at about $600 by the time you sort of get the kit with the extra battery and that sort of stuff, they come in around about a thousand dollars for the, for the number three or the Mark three. But yeah, as I say so on the scheme of things, not a bad price, let's put it that way. [01:07:17] Speaker B: That's pretty good. These days you, you think about if you were going to buy a camera and lens to do a similar job, you're not going to get that for under a thousand bucks. [01:07:25] Speaker A: Yeah, basically every action camera is between 700 and 1000. Now I mean some of them you might get for 500 but yeah, like anything is, that's doing a decent job of video is, is in that range. Unfortunately it's sort of just where it is. [01:07:45] Speaker C: I tried to go pro for a little while but they're not gyro stabilized. I got digital stabilization and Hopeless. Yeah, no good. Yeah, so I moved on. It's all. Oh, I nearly missed it. The unboxing. [01:07:58] Speaker A: Very nice. Hang on, let me make you, I'll make you bigger. [01:08:02] Speaker B: No, not me. [01:08:03] Speaker A: There we go, there we go. Now you're bigger. All right, show us what you got. [01:08:08] Speaker C: So I ended up getting. What I'm trying to achieve is to be able to take a decent image at night from the flight deck effectively. And so I needed a camera that had good low light performance, manual settings and all that sort of stuff as well. And I did a fair bit of research and believe it or not it kind of all led to this fellow here called A, A ZV1. Now they're actually a five year old camera, they're not new, they've been out for ages. But the reason that attracted me so much and so I forgot to do the unboxing. There we go, throw that away. Lots of oohs and ahs. Exactly. Yeah. So that's a little number there. And the reason that I chose this one was twofold I think. Firstly, I am a Sony Gigwith. I've had a 7R mark whatevers for most of my. Well certainly in the last 10 years anyway started with the Mark 2 and after the Mark 5 now and so it's a very similar operating system and menu system. So therefore I was very familiar with the way it operated and all the rest of it. And the other reason I bought it is because. Bit hard to read but It's a f 1.8 lens and this is the reason I actually went for the ZV1. They bought out quite a few variations. They got the mark 2 and then they got all different models of this sort of thing but the. All the lenses after that tended to be F4 and for the low light sort of characteristics that I need. It's just not going to cut it just no way. Yeah. So this little unit, it's got a 1 inch sensor, an f 1.8 lens. It's all buttons. There's virtually. Sorry trying to do it right. There's virtually not a dial on it anywhere. There's the. The zoom lever at the front, everything else is buttons and even on the back it's got the standard sort of sewing there. Bit hard to find in the dark because they're not raised above the rest of the camera. So you got your finger on the button but you just don't know it. But anyway I'll get used to that. You if eventually. And it's got a being it's actually a vlogger camera designed for vlogging so as a result it's got a flip out screen and turns on automatically and then when you spin it around if you're doing your sort of own vlogging you can flip the screen that way so you can kind of see yourself as you. As you're doing it if you're really keen. Yeah. So I bought this little fellow about three weeks ago and so far very happy with it. It's pretty well doing the job. It's got a sensor in it and it's even got. It's got most of the features that my Sony R5 it's quite surprising it's even got bright monitoring. So in a dark situation where you just want to see what the hell's out there, just not just a slider to a bottom one there and you hit that and the electronic view screen just gets brighter and brighter and brighter as time goes on. It's like my later Nikons do it but Sony did it first with the. Was the four and on they started doing it. So even though it's got a five year old camera it's actually got the latest features in it and it's not missing much from what my R5 has. Yeah. So yeah. So so far happy with it. Still experimenting with it though. There's no doubt of that. Learning new things about it. Yeah. But anyway, so that's my new little, what you call it? [01:11:45] Speaker A: EDC camera. [01:11:46] Speaker C: Edc. Thank you. Yeah, so. So, yeah. So I feel part of the team now. [01:11:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Justin doesn't have one though. I do. [01:11:56] Speaker A: No, I don't have one. [01:11:58] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:11:59] Speaker B: Oh, it's the Fujifilm X70. I saw a rumor today that they're working on an X80 and I don't know if it's true. [01:12:06] Speaker A: Well, if they do, I might look at that. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know what I'd want in an EDC camera. [01:12:11] Speaker C: Actually. [01:12:12] Speaker A: I'll think about. Let me pull up a couple of comments because there's some, some great names in the chat. Richard Grenfell you guys might recognize from Thursday show. Thanks, Richard, for joining us again. It was an epic interview. If anyone hasn't seen it, go back and have a listen to that. Full of business wisdom, but also just how to. How to make happy clients with photography. I couldn't believe it. The people jumping in the chat that have worked with Richard at his studio Thrive. It's. It was crazy. Anyway, Richard says, I've got one of those insta360go ultras. I use it for behind the scenes in the studio and also talking to camera videos that I send to clients because Samantha Olson also has a Go Ultra and an Osmo Pocket 3 for upcoming trip to Japan. [01:13:02] Speaker C: Whatever. [01:13:03] Speaker A: Sorry, Greg. And so Go Ultras, they're those little tiny ones. I've been keeping an eye on one of those. That's. That's video only. That's not for. I mean you can take photos with it, but it's not for taking photos. It's for like. Yeah, filming, you know, just life. But look how. Look who else is in the chat. Brett Wood. What's up? Long time no see. [01:13:23] Speaker B: They found us. [01:13:24] Speaker A: Didn't know this show existed, fellas. Leads to Leech just told me about it. Well, good to see you. Yeah, this is our Monday night show where we just do whatever. [01:13:32] Speaker B: We're just talking about you a minute ago in your video. [01:13:34] Speaker C: Nice video. Nice video. [01:13:35] Speaker B: There you go. Justin hasn't watched it. [01:13:39] Speaker A: I have, I actually haven't watched it. No, I haven't seen it pop up on my thing. There's a. You know what I did pop up that I want to watch, but I just haven't had a chance to have that much time. Is Thomas Heaton, I think has done one where he drives up to the Arctic Circle from the UK and he's like camper because he's A landscape photographer. And it's like an hour and 20 minutes or something. And I'm like, I think I'd like to watch this. But that's a commitment, you know, like, that's a. It's a movie. I haven't had time to sit down. [01:14:10] Speaker C: Yeah, well, you should talk with your two hour podcast on this. Come on. [01:14:15] Speaker A: Exactly. I don't know how anyone has time to listen to us. It's crazy. We appreciate every minute that you guys spend listening to us yammer on, but I'll have to. I'll definitely get onto Brett's first. I think that's. That's got to be the priority. Okay. Should we have a look at a couple of your photos? So the photos that you sent Levin, are they with this camera, taken with this camera, or are they taken with a variety of cameras? [01:14:43] Speaker C: A variety of cameras, yeah. As I say, I've only had this one about three weeks and I'm still experimenting with it. Although I did shoot a time lapse through the departure out of Sydney and arrival in Avenue. I don't know if I. Yeah, I've got it. [01:14:58] Speaker B: That's in there. [01:14:59] Speaker C: Yeah, look. Yeah, I shot that on the new ZV1. So, yeah, that was sort of. In fact, it was pretty well the first shoot. Yeah. There we are in Sydney. [01:15:07] Speaker B: Let's. [01:15:08] Speaker A: Let's play this one first. Talk. Talk us through. What are we seeing? [01:15:16] Speaker C: Well, push back from Sydney, get towed up. Then the tow disconnects. We just got to wait for a clearance. The taxi. And away we go. It's a very long taxi in Sydney with this one. We go down to Runway three, four, right. And there we go. Get out. And off we go. Yahoo. [01:15:35] Speaker A: So fast. [01:15:37] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. No, it happens in a hurry. Wollongong. So just heading over the lights of Wollongong now. I cut it. And now we're on descent into Melbourne, but we're actually heading to Avalong. But I did this because we overfly Melbourne and really clear night, lots of light. So it was good. [01:15:54] Speaker B: Yeah, it looks great. [01:15:56] Speaker C: So it's got a few jitters, but it's not the camera, it's the airplane. We got stepped down below an aircraft below us. And now turning left, lining up with the Runway in Avalon. [01:16:07] Speaker A: Headlights on. [01:16:08] Speaker C: Headlights on. Gorgeous touchdown. Perfect landing. Oh, look at that. Yeah. And then we came off the taxiway and had to stop because all the taxiway lights had failed. So the Runway lights were on, but the taxiway lights weren't. So you end up having to wait about five minutes for the follow Me car to come down and so you [01:16:27] Speaker B: get stuck at airports too. It's not just us, probably more so. [01:16:34] Speaker C: So that was all done on the zv, just in the intervalometer mode or the interval mode. Just taking a shot. I think it was a one second shot every two seconds, something like that. [01:16:45] Speaker B: Okay. [01:16:46] Speaker C: Then joined all together as a time lapse video in time lapse later on. So. [01:16:51] Speaker B: And how are you mounting that in the camera in the, in the flight deck, as you call it. Us common folk call it the cockpit. [01:16:56] Speaker C: Cockpit, flight deck, whatever. Yeah, same thing. To be honest, I tend to call it the cockpit as well. Just give me a second, I'll show you the clamp. It's just right behind me. If you want to. [01:17:04] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. [01:17:05] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'll just pull up a comment while you do that. Juice4331 says, Is this show on every Monday night? Just found your channel? [01:17:13] Speaker C: It is. [01:17:14] Speaker A: This is our Monday night show. So every seven. Every Monday, 7:30pm Eastern Standard Time, Melbourne time, we go live and this is the show. We just talk about random photography stuff, news, whatever. Sometimes we unbox stuff if we bought something new. And then at the tail end of the show, we look at images that listeners have sent in from over the past week, which you can just email to me justinuckystraps.com and we'll pull them up on the show and chat about them. And otherwise, if you're new to the channel, we actually do an interview every Thursday morning with amazing photographer just like Levin or just like Brett Wood or just like. [01:17:50] Speaker C: Who else? [01:17:50] Speaker A: Richard Jenfeld, Richard Lucinda Goodwin, Bruce Moyle. Lots of wonderful photographers. Jeff Cable, who we were talking about earlier, Nick Carver, we had on all sorts of people. Anyway, they're at Thursday mornings, 9 o', clock Australian Eastern Daylight Savings Time or 9 o' clock whenever. [01:18:11] Speaker C: And Melbourne Times. [01:18:12] Speaker A: Yes, they're live too. Always live. And then you can always listen back. You can watch back on YouTube at any time or you can listen back on Spotify by Apple Podcasts or any podcast platform really. Just search the camera life. So there's that. That's us. [01:18:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:18:26] Speaker A: Okay. What do you got, Levin? [01:18:28] Speaker C: Ah, so here's the rig that I use. It's basically just a suction. Sorry, suction cup. [01:18:36] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [01:18:36] Speaker C: So just a little cover comes off and you just suction that up. So I'll just get out of there, suction that onto the windscreen, the side window, just pump it a few times and that takes the air out of it, keeps it. And then I've Got this, it's called a magic. And you just release it there and you can basically twist it into any position you want it. It'll fit sort of any way that you like. You can just rotate it around wherever and once you've got it set up, then you just tighten the screw there and then the camera just screws onto the top. Just a standard quarter inch thread. And so that just holds the camera and everything very securely. Yeah, I've had various clamps and rigs and jigs over the years, but this is certainly the smallest and most lightweight and. And it's plenty to hold the little ZV1. So yeah, that's how I sort of attach it and secure it and once it's all set up. So basically once I attach it to the windscreen and as I said, I do tend to actually do time lapse or if there's a thunderstorm, I'll take it from few photos of that, but basically just press the button and just forget it from that point on it just. Which sort of leads me, if you don't mind, I will just make a comment that I am flying the airplane. I'm very well aware of that. And there is also a co pilot and we've got the third pilot called George that's the autopilot and certainly in the cruise and that sort of stuff, the autopilot stays on. So I only ever do this when time's available and when the other guy's there and. And it's really is just set and forget. Once it's all set up then I just hit the button and from that point on I'm just back to doing my proper job of flying. So. So no, there's little of any risk. Although I must admit I did have an interesting moment coming back from Bali two nights ago. I had it all set up ready to go just to shoot a time lapse to. And the first officer needed to go out and go to the toilet. There was a bit of a queue there, those about three deep in the toilet. Oh, sorry, try that again. Three deep. Three deep in the queue. [01:20:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:43] Speaker C: In the queue, yeah, three deep. Three deep in the queue. I'm sorry. Yeah, but anyway, so I sort of stopped and because as I say, I was up there by myself and didn't want to get distracted and then I'm sort of sitting there and I'm thinking, well, all I'm going to do is press the button like it's all set to go. I don't. It's all adjusted. It was. It was all ready to go before he walked out. So I thought, oh, well, what the heck? So I just reached up, pressed the button on the camera to start it, and the second I pressed the button, the toilet fire alarm went off and scared the willies out of me too. But it was just coincidence that. That I was happy with the button. Yeah, that at the same time. I know, it was just unbelievable coincidence. What have I done? But no, no, yeah. But anyway, quickly realized what was going on and it all settled down very rapidly. But. But it was just ironic. Like the split second I hit that button, the alarm went off and talked about bad timing. [01:21:37] Speaker A: But anyway, I just want to bring [01:21:39] Speaker B: up a couple of your images from your Instagram, just very quickly. [01:21:43] Speaker A: I've got them here. If they're the cockpit ones. Yeah, I've got them. I was just about to. I've got them queued up, ready to [01:21:47] Speaker C: go if you want. [01:21:49] Speaker A: Oh, it'll be in here. Yeah, I've got them all in here. So I'll add them and we'll just go through them if you want because. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. [01:21:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, let's do that. [01:21:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:58] Speaker C: So look, these are basically just a few thunderstorm photos that I've taken over the years. I think this was with my original A7R Mark II when I had the. The big rig sort of set up with that. And they're tricky to catch, as you would imagine, because. And I also need to explain that these are only worth taking when they're about 100 nautical miles away. I know it doesn't look like it, but that storm is seriously, it's about 40 nautical miles away, that one, which is like 80 kilometers away. So there's no risk to ask. And we're actually still in very still calm air. It's just that I've zoomed in a bit with the lens and. But you actually need that distance. If you're too close, you can't get a decent photo. So therefore it's sort of. You gotta. It's. These opportunities don't come up all that often. You sort of gotta be the perfect distance away from a thunderstorm to make this worthwhile while. But anyway. Yeah, so that's one there. That's the one, I think that was north of New guinea, if memory serves. Just a single bolt just came out of that and the glow on the right is just sunset, sort of late sunset. Just managed to jag that one. But the way I go about it is I tend to set about a 4 second shutter speed with a relative. Because the thing is, it's like a flash. You got to expose for the flash. So therefore I actually have it at about f8 and ISO 100, but just a 4 second shutter speed. And then cross your fingers and hope for the best. [01:23:23] Speaker A: Hope to capture. Yeah, like that. [01:23:25] Speaker C: Hope to capture it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And as a result of that, maybe only one in every 200 actually works out. And it does depend on how active the thunderstorm is. If it's a really active storm, you'll get a few. But if it's only a strike every, you know, 30 seconds or so. [01:23:40] Speaker B: Oh, look at that. [01:23:42] Speaker C: It might take 200 images to get one like that. Yeah, yeah, no, that was about halfway between New guinea and Cairns if memory serves. Anyway, just approaching the northern tip of Australia. [01:23:56] Speaker A: I'm a bit of a fan of this one. [01:23:58] Speaker C: Yeah, that's what my view is in the 787. It's called a HUD, a heads up display. And it was just dawn coming up actually my way to Honolulu, if memory serves on that one. Although no, we can't have been. We're down to 24,000ft, so we wouldn't have been. Okay. I can't remember where it is now, but that's part of the display and instrument system that we have on board the aircraft on the 787s. And yeah, it just sort of tells us what we need to know. But I thought with the sun coming through it, it just looked really cool. So I snapped a quick one of that. [01:24:33] Speaker A: Yeah, it looks so good. Makes me want to be a fighter pilot, [01:24:40] Speaker C: that one in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, literally halfway to Honolulu. And it wasn't a full moon, but you know, the moon comes up quite brightly at night in a camera. But yeah, just with a cloud and everything below and the moon was reflecting and glistening on the ocean below. So yeah, just looked really, really neat. So snapped one of those as well. [01:25:01] Speaker B: Magic. [01:25:02] Speaker A: Yeah, with it sort of hitting the clouds and then the clouds are casting, casting shadows on the ocean like. [01:25:09] Speaker C: Oh yeah, they are, yeah, yeah, yeah. Quite literally the moon is casting the shadow on the. Casting cloud shadows on the water below. And it's lighting up the cloud tops beautifully as well. Yeah, this is the one from about. Yeah, this is from about three weeks ago when we had the big bushfires up north in Victoria. I flew over to twice I did a double Sydney that day. And so the first flight was much earlier in the afternoon and all we could see really was the smoke and you could see the ground, but you couldn't see any of the flames. So all you saw really was just the ground and the smoke above it. But then about three to four hours later, when I was going over it the second time, it was the sun had literally just set. So it's sort of a very big blue hour, so to speak. And so therefore the flames below are quite visible. And what's happening there, it's what they call pyrocumulonimbus, the smoke and heat from below. When it gets up higher in the altitude, it cools down because the temperature is cooling, basically 3 degrees per thousand feet or 2 degrees per thousand feet. And so as the air gets higher and higher, it cools down and cools down. And believe it or not, you wouldn't think so, but there's actually a lot of moisture in the smoke, which sounds. But you've also just got smoke in the general air above. And so what happens is all this rising heat actually triggers a cumulonimbus cloud above it. So the gray stuff down low below it is the smoke, but then the white earth stuff that's bubbling away is actually a cloud. It's a cumulonimbus cloud. [01:26:51] Speaker B: And you can. You can see the line where it separates. [01:26:53] Speaker C: Yeah, amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's called the inversion layer, where the line is there. Yeah. And so, yeah, it was pretty. Pretty. Very unique scene. I've never seen one. Well, to be honest, we see bushfires quite regularly, but, you know, middle of Western Australia and particularly Northern Territory, in the dry season, you do see quite a few, but they're not cause harm or damage. But you rarely see them this big. And this was up near Euroa, just south, I think it was at Long Longford. I think it's called Longford. Longford, Something like that. Near. Yeah. That particular fire. And why that sort of became a bit noticeable. What's the word I'm after? Memorable to me for two reasons. The image that you showed a few previous, picked up by. Just remember the name of the. It's a town called Yark, which is about halfway between Seymour and Ilden. It's sort of south of Euroa and Seymour, it's just. It's a smaller town. Anyway, they were also very much affected by the bushfire area. And I got a message them asking if they could use the image as a bit of a. Not so much a memorial, but just a memory thing a month later. So once the bushfire had finished and a month later they asked if they could use it to post it on their hall and people could write comments and all that sort of stuff around it on the board. And it was as much to do with people expressing their, you know, their feelings and their emotions and basically dealing with the mental trauma that they encountered during these fires. Because I also got a request from another who asked if he could get a photo of it because that's the fire that burned his house down. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, it was quite meaningful in one way. Well, in that way, you know, with, with all of that. Yeah, so that was nice that people have picked that up and. Yeah. To sort of, you know, help them a little bit later on. But I also had the reverse happen with that image where somebody stole it and posted it in threads as their own image and claimed it was theirs. And so anyway, I sort of found that out and I'll put my own little reply to it saying, yeah, great shot, pity like it. But anyway, so yeah, that's life on social media, unfortunately. [01:29:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Lisa's just dropped in the bushfire aftermath images I sent in for tonight's your images segment last week. Or was it last week's? Oh, that's right, the handful from last week's. They were from the same area. [01:29:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:37] Speaker B: That's cool. [01:29:37] Speaker C: Okay. [01:29:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it's amazing, Levin just. And, and someone, I think Phil Thompson might have pointed it out that rear view photography is a very apt name for your photography wing. [01:29:50] Speaker C: Yeah, well, because it is. [01:29:51] Speaker B: When you look at these images, you know, this is stuff that we rarely see. Very rare. I mean we'll sometimes see some altitude stuff from a helicopter or you know, really high up drone, but rarely do we see stuff at this sort of elevation. I think you said in your post is about 20,000ft up. [01:30:08] Speaker C: Yeah, we're actually still on climb. Yeah, as I said, we departed out of Melbourne heading up to Sydney and we're still on the climb going through about a thousand feet at that stage. [01:30:18] Speaker B: And just out of curiosity, are commercial pilots ever called upon to spot things that might be going on in the environment or is that just, you know, do you guys have any sort of protocols that you have to report stuff you see? [01:30:30] Speaker C: Yeah, we do. Look, certainly if we see a fire in a close to a built up area, then we do call air traffic control just to make them aware and they do follow it up because I've had many, many times where they'll get back to you about 15, 20 minutes later and they'll just say it'll either be something like, yep, fire sensors are aware of that one or, or B. Thanks very much. They're looking into that sort of one. [01:30:57] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [01:30:58] Speaker C: But we do see a lot of fires as I said, in the Northern Territory during the dry season and Western Australia and they're out in the middle of. And they generally burn for days and days and days and do no harm or damage to humans anyway. And yeah, it's just part of the natural cycle of life up there. So those ones. No, we're just a diamond dozen. Be honest. They look spectacular. They're impressive. But no, we don't bother with those. [01:31:22] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, that's fair. [01:31:24] Speaker A: Great. Awesome. Yeah. Amazing images. Amazing. Especially knowing that some of them are coming from an EDC camera. A tiny Sony, little Sony EDC camera. And you know, if I think if I, I was to have an EDC camera, my dream EDC camera would be something like the Ricoh GR4. Yeah. But with a viewfinder. [01:31:59] Speaker B: I think I would like no pleasing some people. You can get a little viewfinder that goes on the top. [01:32:05] Speaker A: No, that, that just then doesn't. It's not sleek. Doesn't fit in your pocket properly. I don't know. Don't like it. You know what, I would go so far as to say I'd almost prefer it to have a viewfinder and. No like a tiny back screen just big enough for like menu adjustments and stuff. Not, not. [01:32:22] Speaker B: Oh, you just need a clickster. [01:32:24] Speaker A: No, no, I want. So the thing the GR4 has that I want is an APS C sensor. Like a. You know it's going up from the 1 inch sensor to like a crop. Like if Fujifilm used their, one of their X series sensors in a. Something that was just slightly smaller than the X100 where it can fit in your pocket because obviously the X100. Yeah, exactly. [01:32:51] Speaker B: Is that an. [01:32:52] Speaker A: Is that an APSC sensor? [01:32:54] Speaker B: 16 megapixel APS C. It was the first X Trans sensor. [01:32:57] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:32:57] Speaker A: So that basically that. [01:32:59] Speaker C: That'd be. [01:33:00] Speaker A: That's the one. And it's got. It doesn't have any finder though but [01:33:02] Speaker B: it has a completely flip up 180 screen. Yeah, you can shoot from the hip and. [01:33:07] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:33:08] Speaker B: And it has Fujifilm sims. Like it's, it's cool. It's the first Fujifilm camera with a touchscreen. So you know, they're great. [01:33:17] Speaker A: Yeah. But yeah, I think, I think you need a viewfinder to feel like a photographer. [01:33:22] Speaker C: That's. That's just. I've got a bit. I'm getting on fine without it. In this little number here. [01:33:29] Speaker B: Someone as old as Levin can change, so can you. [01:33:32] Speaker C: Yeah, true. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. And the Coke portal glasses, they, they feel like for a viewfinder anyway, you [01:33:38] Speaker B: just point in a vague direction and push the button. I mean, how hard is it? Justin, Come on, where's your sense of adventure? [01:33:46] Speaker C: I did look at that one. You spent the, the G4 and it looked a capable camera. It really did. It was. But as I say, I eventually just went for the Sony. Mainly because I'm all already used to the menu system and all that. [01:34:00] Speaker B: It's a great little camera and I [01:34:02] Speaker C: had nothing new to learn, so it was easy. [01:34:04] Speaker B: And finding something in a five year old camera that actually ticks all the, all the boxes for you, that's even better. [01:34:11] Speaker C: Yeah, it really surprised me. And they're still making a brand new. I bought that one brand new. So. Yeah, in fact I actually looked around to see if I could get a secondhand one because it was a bit of an experiment. So I thought, oh well, you know, if I can get a cheapie then that'd be great. Couldn't find. Yeah, I'm sure they pop up every really popular cameras. I think they are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:34:31] Speaker A: Rick Nelson says it's solid, but he also says he uses the OM Systems TG7 right now as his EDC. And that is the camera that Yelena's getting for her birthday. And that reminds me, I need to order one of those. [01:34:45] Speaker B: You're terrible. Order so bad it's not for a month still. [01:34:49] Speaker A: But time order. You forgot TG7. Hope she's not listening to this. Are you listening, Elena? No. Okay. Anything else on, on, on little cameras before we move on? What do you guys think? [01:35:07] Speaker B: I. I think there's a, there's a, you know, if you, if you can afford it and you know, like Levin said, look for a second hand compact, fixed lens, point and shoots. You know, I mean it's like that, it's like that experiment I did. Remember I went to Digi Direct one day, I said, give me your cheapest, dirtiest digital camera. It cost me like 50 bucks or 70 bucks or something. They gave me a free memory card and I went out and had a great time shooting with it. It was a piece of garbage. The images were okay, much better than the Kodak Chimera. But it was just a fun opportunity to go out and not worry about all this excessive gear weighing you down, like just being free and just having a very simple kit. And I know that's something that you struggle with, Justin, because you're obviously A very complex man. But I think [01:35:55] Speaker C: I wouldn't be surprised to be honest, if you're not going to see these around much longer because to be fair. Well not, not to be fair but just let's face it, the average modern phone can do nearly the same job these days. So they, they're getting, you know, the phone. I don't like phone photography. I'll say it up front, it's not my thing and I just prefer, I don't know, doing it properly shall we say. But yeah, there's no doubt that you know your average phone like your latest iPhone and your latest Samsung Galaxy and that sort of stuff, they honestly in some ways have more features than this. In other ways they don't. But they're getting to the point where I do wonder how much longer these things are going to be available on the market. And yet having said that, they seem to be having a bit of a resurgence at the moment. [01:36:45] Speaker B: Compact cameras. Compact cameras are huge. Yeah. So marketing trends especially in Asian countries, especially in Japan and China youth market are just leaning into compact fixed lens cameras like the ZV1x1 hundreds. Ricoh GRS have already. Already sold out globally. The latest GR4s they've already. You can't get them. But that, that's not unusual for rico. They tend to under produce and over promise and they just try to fill the gaps as they go. [01:37:15] Speaker C: Yeah. And maybe because it seems to be different marketing these days, they seem to be selling them or promoting them as a vlogger camera. [01:37:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:37:22] Speaker B: They're looking for influencer lifestyle kind of stuff. [01:37:25] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. Maybe that's the new market that they're tapping into. [01:37:29] Speaker B: It is very much so. [01:37:30] Speaker C: No. [01:37:30] Speaker A: But I think there is, there's a gap there for us photographers as well. Although I would use a bit of a hybrid one and I think. So what's interesting is there's this. So Canon have basically a very similar camera to that Sony ZV1 and it's called the Canon 1V or V1 or something. They're almost like. It's so confusing. It got released a few years later than it. It's basically similar to the ZV Mark 2. I think it got released around the same time as that but then. And it's very vlog oriented. It still takes nice photos but it's, it's closer to the video side of things. But then they, they released this. [01:38:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:38:13] Speaker A: Which the, the PowerShot GX7 Mark III Limited Edition and the GX7 Mark III has been out for. I can't Remember how long? But a while. It's an older camera but this year because of the 30th anniversary of PowerShot, they release this and it's like it's, it's sold out and like it's. It's. You're not going to be able to get them. And it's this kind of camera that I think Canon should be doing a new version of. [01:38:39] Speaker B: They so should. [01:38:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And. And. [01:38:41] Speaker B: And it's the photographer's compact. [01:38:43] Speaker A: Like a photographer's compact camera. Yeah, yeah. Yep. [01:38:46] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. There is a gap there because they are trying to. Currently, you know, they're trying to get as many new people into photography as they can. They want to get people off phones and into these sorts of compact cameras. But this 30th, 30th anniversary edition, it doesn't make sense who they released it to because wasn't it like a thousand dollars more than the normal version? And all it's got extra is some. A different color and maybe some. The. [01:39:10] Speaker C: The. [01:39:10] Speaker B: The focus ring is. Is metal and gnarled like they've made special kind of group. [01:39:14] Speaker C: It's. [01:39:15] Speaker B: There was a bit of a stink about Canon asking that much extra money for basically an old camera. [01:39:22] Speaker A: It's only a hundred dollars to you. [01:39:24] Speaker B: I thought it was a thousand. [01:39:26] Speaker A: No, 1449. Never mind. So maybe the fact that they're throwing this limited edition out there, like maybe that means there is something in the works. [01:39:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:39] Speaker A: You know, or. You know, or the. In like there's a possibility that can. Is going to revise and put some money into that. I don't know. [01:39:47] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean last year we had. Sony came out with the. What was it? The R1XR. [01:39:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Which is a premium. [01:39:55] Speaker B: Premium. [01:39:55] Speaker A: Premium EDC. Yeah. [01:39:56] Speaker B: Which is so cool to still. Fixed lens. [01:39:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:40:00] Speaker B: Relatively compact body but terribly overpriced. [01:40:04] Speaker A: But they had these. So this is the RX100. [01:40:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:40:09] Speaker A: Mark 1. I'm pretty sure it is the Mark 1. The OG original. Funny danglies on it. Rick Nelson saying, Justin, you might like the RX100 mark 7 as it has a viewfinder that pops up. Yeah, mine's got a flash that pops up. Funny flash. Look how little it is. [01:40:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:40:26] Speaker A: The tiny teeny little. It's a very small camera. This is what I wanted as a. Come on, focus. Do it, do it. Never mind. You know what it looks like it's a small camera, but I couldn't get used to the ergonomics and the speed that it. It was to shoot Manual in it. It just didn't quite work for manual. Just needs a little bit more input in. In manual controls. But the image quality is pretty good considering the size of the camera. And it has a 1.8 lens at the wide end. They. They went away from that 2:11 as. As the iteration went on they started to go towards sort of different zoom ranges but with more like slightly. They would be 2.8 to 4 or whatever. And yeah, this was 1.8 at the wide end, which I thought was very cool because it let in a decent amount of light and got to use the sensor at a lower ISO. [01:41:17] Speaker C: And that's one of the things that we're actually plugging as a vlogger camera because with the wide open aperture you've got very shallow depth of field. So the vloggers love it from the point of view of the faces in focus. But the background sort of got that bouquet, as I say. So, yeah, it's interesting how they've sort of marketed that whole thing now along those lines. And Sony themselves have got quite a large range of these compact camera, sorry, EDC cameras like the RX100 and I think there's a 10 and a 1 and that sort of. Yeah, they've got quite a significant range of them still. So obviously there's a market for. [01:41:53] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:41:53] Speaker C: Which is good. [01:41:54] Speaker A: They just haven't. They just haven't put a lot of new in it, like new. There's not a lot of new models coming out other than that kind of vlogging model that you've got. That's been the one that's sort of been the most recently. And the premiums we've been seeing with Fujifilm, Obviously the Leica Q3 is in the Premium range and the RX1R Mark 3 is the Premium. There's a few of those, but there's just not a ton of. In that. More that Ricoh GR and X100 range. But the X100 is just that little bit big. For me personally, I might as well just take my main camera because it doesn't fit in your pocket. It's. It's. It's more of an have it out and about. Still great for the size, but just a little bit bigger than these cameras. [01:42:37] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:42:40] Speaker A: Cool. Shall we. Shall we move on? Because the show is just rocking and rolling. It's quarter past nine. We'll do a super fast. What's in the box? [01:42:52] Speaker C: Who's got a box? [01:42:55] Speaker A: I'll do a real fast film. I got my film. Joel. [01:43:01] Speaker B: Awesome. [01:43:02] Speaker A: Joel Alston coached me through my Wilkins film order last week. So you probably already have heard most of what's in here. So we're going to go through it real quick. If I don't cut my finger off trying to open the box with this ruler. How do you guys open boxes? The metal ruler. [01:43:21] Speaker B: Knife. [01:43:23] Speaker A: I need an EDC knife. [01:43:25] Speaker B: You do. I'll get you one for your birthday. [01:43:29] Speaker C: I'm surprised your sharp wit doesn't do the job. [01:43:31] Speaker B: Oh, that is good. [01:43:36] Speaker A: That was very good. Well played. Oh, look, a little sticker. Oh, nice. Oh, it's a little Walken's film, man. [01:43:44] Speaker B: Put that on your pelican case. You have to get one of those. [01:43:54] Speaker A: All right, so what. [01:43:55] Speaker C: What did you shoot with? Like what, what, what, what have you got? That's film that. You've sent it away. [01:44:05] Speaker A: This is just buying new film. But I'm using a. My Canon one N. So like a pro ish. I've got. I've got two of these. Canon one end. So like a pro ish film. Why wouldn't it focus tonight? Just not loving it. [01:44:26] Speaker C: Canon. [01:44:27] Speaker A: There we go. [01:44:27] Speaker C: There you go. Yep. [01:44:30] Speaker A: But yeah, so it's sort of the. This is the second last flagship film body they made. I'm looking for a 1V. If anyone's got one, talk to me. I'd like to buy one. Like it to be nice. And yeah, that with a 28 mil and I've got a 50 mil f 1.2 to go on it as well. And that. Those are the two. Yeah, it's. Look at all the light that goes through it. I know. [01:44:53] Speaker C: So, yeah, that's. [01:44:54] Speaker A: That's all. [01:44:55] Speaker B: There's no aperture. [01:44:56] Speaker C: It's just wide open. [01:44:56] Speaker A: Yeah, Just wide open. [01:44:59] Speaker C: A telescope, not a lens. [01:45:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay, so let's go through these first. We've got Delta 100 black and white, Ilford Delta and Ilford Delta 400 black and white. I think they've become my favorites. Oh, I don't know what that one was. And it's gone. We've got an unboxed Portra 400. Bit of a staple. Then we've got. This is so gold. 203 packs of 36 exposure. Because I really like that for my summer snaps. And then Joel told me to try this and someone else in the. In the chat said, this, this is Kodak Ultra Max 400. I'm really keen to see what this looks like. Yeah. To see how it compares to portrait and whether, you know, it's just a nice all purpose general thing. And I'm gonna. I'm gonna put some rolls through this because this with the 200, this is the sprocket, the panorama thing with a 200 ISO film in it. They were just a little bit dark in some of the shots, so I want to try with 400. [01:46:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:46:07] Speaker A: And then to experiment, I've got. And to do some shots of petrol stations at night. I've got the Cinestill 800 tungsten and the Cinestill 400, which I'll also be keen to try out next to portrait to see how it looks. [01:46:23] Speaker C: So that's. That. [01:46:24] Speaker A: That's my film. [01:46:25] Speaker B: Very well done. That's exciting. [01:46:27] Speaker A: It is. [01:46:28] Speaker B: But that cost you about $4,000, I think. [01:46:30] Speaker A: So, yeah. [01:46:31] Speaker C: It hurt. [01:46:32] Speaker A: I actually took a couple. I had the cart loaded up and I was like, no, I gotta cut this down a little. [01:46:38] Speaker C: This is. [01:46:38] Speaker A: This is outrageous. Yeah. So, yeah, it's expensive, but that'll last me. And I've got. Got four or five rolls of color and. And black and white in my little stock now. But I've just. I know I've got a couple of things coming up that I want to use it and I just want to have it in there ready to go. So I won't need to buy film now for three or four months, probably. Yeah, it's good now. I've got a good selection. [01:47:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:01] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:47:01] Speaker B: If you spread it out, then it's worthwhile, you know. [01:47:04] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:47:04] Speaker B: But if you're spending that much money every week, like every month, even crazy. [01:47:08] Speaker A: Oh, I could. No, I couldn't do that. It's more just if I don't have it there ready to go when. When something pops up where I'm like, I want to take my film camera to this. If I don't have it there ready to go, then it won't happen. I've got to have a selection of stuff ready to go if I really want to do this. And. And I'm trying to, as I said on the other show, I'm trying to shoot a minimum of one roll a month through this year and get it. And get it developed each month. So I've got, you know, a decent record of what happens this year on film. [01:47:38] Speaker B: Very cool. Now, Levin, can you hear us? Are you back? I think he's. He's still working out. He's audio. Something's happened to his headphones. I think he's running out of battery. [01:47:49] Speaker A: Well, let's do it. [01:47:50] Speaker C: Sorry, guys. [01:47:51] Speaker A: Oh, you're back. [01:47:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Are you back? Good. [01:47:54] Speaker A: We jump to your images. [01:47:55] Speaker C: Gotcha. Now. Sorry, guys. Yeah, you're right. The headphones. Headphones died. Sorry about that. [01:47:59] Speaker B: Ah, okay. All right, we've got you back. That's the main thing. Let's get to the next segment and wrap this show up with some images. [01:48:07] Speaker A: Yeah, images. Let's pull them up. Who are we gonna start with? Let's go to Goodwin. Cause these actually come in during last week's show, but not in time to make the cutoff. Cause I wasn't paying attention to my email. So here we have Lucinda's images and she says the Where We Are where a show from Friday I shot at the Thornbury Theater. That would be last Friday, I guess a venue I hadn't ever been to. The band were very adamant that I got up in their grill and I was welcome on stage. Which makes for a fun shoot. [01:48:49] Speaker B: Yeah, that's cool. [01:48:51] Speaker A: Let's. Let's whip through them. Yeah, what a cool venue. [01:48:59] Speaker B: Oh, look at that. [01:49:01] Speaker A: Yeah, that's awesome. Those cross pattern and the way that [01:49:04] Speaker B: that person's kind of standing. Almost like standing in between the beams of light. [01:49:10] Speaker A: Yeah, that's cool. Oh, that's awesome. [01:49:14] Speaker B: These are great. [01:49:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's right up in your grill. You were on stage and it's. [01:49:22] Speaker C: This is the thing. [01:49:23] Speaker A: And it's like, it's. It's an intimate stage, so it's not so big that you can really sort of just skulk around and no one's gonna see you. Like the crowd would have. Yeah, you would have had. Just had to be part of it. Which I think is awesome that they wanted you to just get in, get in and get amongst it in the way. [01:49:39] Speaker B: Yeah, that's cool. [01:49:44] Speaker A: These are great. [01:49:48] Speaker B: That's cool. What a great pose to capture. [01:49:53] Speaker C: Be very rare to get that opportunity too, to be on stage taking the photos. [01:49:57] Speaker A: Yeah, she's sent a few in. Like she has been invited on before, but I think from memory they were pretty big stages usually. Yeah. A bit easier to kind of like hide behind some amps and just sneak across and stuff. But. Yeah, this is like you're in there. I've had to cross. [01:50:15] Speaker C: I don't think she's hiding behind anything there. Yeah. [01:50:19] Speaker B: These are very cool. [01:50:22] Speaker A: Thanks for sending these. [01:50:23] Speaker C: Hard to capture images in a stage environment like that as well. Really hard. Yeah. [01:50:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Dark, bright lights coming in. [01:50:33] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. I like that first one too, with, I think was the drummer. Because you got really good eye contact with him. [01:50:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:50:43] Speaker A: Yeah, that's really cool. [01:50:45] Speaker C: He's really. Yeah, he's making it. [01:50:48] Speaker A: Yeah. These cannons Do a good job now. [01:50:51] Speaker B: Whatever. Next. [01:50:54] Speaker A: Okay, next we have David Leporardi. And let's get these in order. All right. These images were created for Queensland Police Service in in House publications and Media Services. They own the copyright to the images, but I have blurred faces of serving members and staff. I was employed for 17 years as a forensic imaging technician and was requested to shoot this type of PR photography for the media unit from 2012 to 2019 and 2020 to 2025. The reason I was asked was due to my 40 years photography experience and knowledge with lighting. Yeah, I can see where they are. Where they asked you. Yeah, because you're an awesome photographer. Okay, all images shot with the Canon 5D Mark III and 24 to 72.8 and the 600 EX RT speed lights. All right, image number one, Police Dog in boots. Checking, Checking engine bay. [01:51:54] Speaker B: Oh, it is wearing boots. [01:51:56] Speaker A: It's wearing booties. Oh, it says. I think it. I think it's got an asterisk there. I'm guessing it's to stop the vehicle from scratching. I think that means, means scratch vehicle. Yeah, like so the dog doesn't, you know. [01:52:08] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. It doesn't damage anything. [01:52:10] Speaker C: Scratch the paintwork. [01:52:11] Speaker A: It's so good. 2x600ex RT flashes. Okay. Second one. Police diver and boat. [01:52:21] Speaker C: Oh, wow. [01:52:23] Speaker A: Tungsten white balance 600exrt and color temp orange gel in small softbox. Yeah, that's awesome. [01:52:32] Speaker C: Lit up inside the mask. Like he's lit up the guy's face somehow inside the mask. Or a very directed flash or something. [01:52:38] Speaker A: Yeah, just, I guess just a very sort of directed flash from camera left. Just slightly camera left and maybe a little bit up high. [01:52:47] Speaker C: Yeah, you just see a little bit of reflection there. But no, that's really good. [01:52:51] Speaker A: Yeah, it's very well done. And yeah, using a CTO gel, like color temperature orange and then that just allows you to. To cool everything else down a little bit in the background and darken it off. Image number three, Police air crew with helicopter crewman in shade of hangar. And then two 600 XRTs in a softbox. [01:53:12] Speaker C: Nice. [01:53:15] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:53:19] Speaker A: yeah, that's awesome. [01:53:20] Speaker B: It's great shot. [01:53:23] Speaker A: Image number five, behind the scenes. No. Image number four, inspire drone. 125 years of Queensland Police photography. Three 600 ex RTS plus gels and a softbox. What? So that's a little police drone. Oh, we're getting some live, live updates from David himself, the driver and the boat shop, a diver and the boat diver. [01:53:54] Speaker B: Sorry. [01:53:55] Speaker A: Shot 24mil at 50cm while lying on a floating pontoon, bobbing up and down. And the flash on a. And softbox on a monopod overhead. Yeah. Okay. [01:54:06] Speaker B: Wow, that's so cool. [01:54:10] Speaker C: Oh, so I assume David was lying on the pontoon? I guess. [01:54:16] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Okay, so then we've got the behind the scenes of the Inspire drone. There we go. [01:54:28] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [01:54:29] Speaker C: Very clever. [01:54:30] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So 600 EX and blue gel on background. 600 EX and red gel behind the drone towards the camera. 600 EX in softbox overhead, hot water tray and dry ice added. And then that makes that. [01:54:49] Speaker C: Wow, that's cool. [01:54:50] Speaker B: That's so clever. [01:54:51] Speaker A: Yeah, that is super cool. [01:54:55] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:54:57] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. And then. Okay, as always, the amazing descriptions are here. Yeah. So the speed light in a small softbox. Yeah, I will say. Hang on. Can I zoom in? Come back. There we go. Here we go. Viewed from camera position, the softbox was kind of 45, or a bit higher than 45. Pointing down on the diver for the diver boat shot. And then I can't even get in on this one. Helicopter. [01:55:34] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:55:35] Speaker A: Softbox to camera, right? Yeah. I love these little diagrams. They're always the best. Okay, that's David Leporardi. [01:55:47] Speaker B: And now, well done, David. [01:55:49] Speaker A: As always, well done, David. Yeah. And thanks for the explanations. They always make it David Mascaro. Here's my crack at being a street photographer. All images are with the Nikon F2As and Delta 400. Oh, nice choice of film twinsies. Maybe my images will look like this. What I love about film is that it's not perfect. My photography hero's images were never perfect. They were impactful. They made you look a long time. They told stories, whereas I'm still trying to figure out what I'm trying to say. Have a great day, guys. This is cool. We get to see a different side of David mascara. [01:56:38] Speaker C: How old are these? Makes you wonder. I was looking at early. Must be. [01:56:43] Speaker A: Well, this. No, no, that's. This is. It's in San Francisco. That's just one of their. [01:56:49] Speaker B: Okay. [01:56:50] Speaker A: Yeah. But it really does look like you travel back in time a bit, doesn't it? Until you look. [01:56:53] Speaker C: It does look like something out of the 40s or 50s or something. [01:56:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. Very clever. [01:56:58] Speaker B: Black and white. [01:56:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:57:00] Speaker B: Ageless. [01:57:01] Speaker A: It is ageless. [01:57:02] Speaker C: Yeah, it is. [01:57:03] Speaker B: Definitely can be. [01:57:06] Speaker C: I'm not sure if they had walking signs with countdown seconds back in the. [01:57:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I just saw that too. I went, oh, that's more recent, I think. [01:57:12] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah. [01:57:14] Speaker B: A great collection. [01:57:15] Speaker A: Yeah, I love it. Awesome. To see a different side. How if. Yeah, I'LL be interested to see David if you've. If you've done more of that kind of. Of stuff or is this new or have you done this throughout your photography career as well, and you just prefer to mainly show street portraits? I'd be interested to know. Okay, moving on. Felicity Johnson. [01:57:38] Speaker B: Felicity. [01:57:39] Speaker A: Felicity says, I hope you're all well and enjoyed last night's drop of rain. We did. [01:57:44] Speaker C: Lovely. [01:57:45] Speaker A: Here are my photos for tonight. I think this. Do I pronounce it? Azure, Kingfisher, Murray river at Trumbury. Keeping an eye on a whistling kite. [01:57:58] Speaker B: Look at that background. Look at that bouquet. [01:58:00] Speaker C: Yeah. Look at exactly what I was thinking, Greg. [01:58:02] Speaker B: It's just obliterated. No, it's beautiful. [01:58:07] Speaker A: Yeah. She doesn't. She didn't tell us what. She didn't tell us what lens this was. I'm assuming it's a fancy one. Looks fancy. Okay. Whilst doing confined space training with my brigade, I popped out, grabbed the camera and got a few shots. That's an epic shot. [01:58:27] Speaker C: That's cool. [01:58:28] Speaker B: That's incredible. [01:58:29] Speaker A: Yeah, the backlit water is awesome. [01:58:32] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [01:58:34] Speaker A: Really, really cool. I'll be shooting lens. [01:58:37] Speaker C: She's done well to. To see that or to create it? One or the other. Yeah, yeah, lovely. Both. [01:58:46] Speaker B: And just to have the presence of mind to go, oh, near my camera, you know, run off and grab it. So the previous the. The Kingfisher shot was the 180 to 600 Nikon Z. Just a small lens, I believe. [01:59:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I'd. I'd love to see this shot wider too. Felicity. Just to know it's probably not. Maybe not a better photo, but I'd love to just see what the scene like more what else was happening in the scene during the training. I'm actually. I'll be doing this sort of shooting all weekend this weekend for a rescue training comp in Bendigo. I might even be going underground on Friday to shoot the underground portion at the mine. That'll be interesting. [01:59:24] Speaker B: Wow. [01:59:28] Speaker A: Oh, it was it. The Gornong Silos at the Ish Center. Very cool. That I'll be there on Thursday. [01:59:37] Speaker B: There you go. [01:59:38] Speaker A: That's where I do all my work. [01:59:40] Speaker B: Twinsies again. [01:59:41] Speaker A: Twinsies. Not a coincidental show. Yep. Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Well, then I know exactly where this is. I've been in there. That's awesome. [01:59:54] Speaker B: That's very cool. [01:59:54] Speaker C: It'll be you in a few days. [01:59:56] Speaker A: It will be. Although, yeah, I don't know if we'll be doing any water. Any water stuff with the rescue comp. I think it's all confined space and ropes. They've got. They've got 11 or 12 cars to do to put all the teams through car crash, you know, get the Jaws of life, get people, you know, all that sort of stuff. It's going to be awesome. [02:00:15] Speaker C: Full three. [02:00:16] Speaker B: I did that. I did that when I. Because I went through scouts right through to rovers and I did that in adventurers and rovers where they'd stage a scene and they'd have the. What's the state emergency service? State of mos. And they'd have some police show up and. [02:00:31] Speaker A: And. [02:00:32] Speaker B: And, yeah, they'd fake a crash then. And we'd have to be part of the, you know, the support team. [02:00:36] Speaker A: Oh, that's cool. That's very cool. [02:00:39] Speaker B: A very long time ago. [02:00:42] Speaker A: Final image from Felicity Leachville. Saltworks. Love the layers and patterns in this drone shot. So do I. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, I really like that. [02:00:55] Speaker B: So compelling to work out. What is it? You know, like to work out where the layer, what the layers are. And very cool. [02:01:04] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's really the. Like that crack. Crazy. Sort of. That whole bottom section is just. It's mesmerizing. Zoom in on it. Yeah, we always. Felicity says we always have a Commodore hanging off the top of our silos. Do you know how that got there, Felicity? I could probably find that. It's very interesting. I have a time lapse of how that got there and then what happened to it. I should see if I could find it. Do you want me to find it? [02:01:37] Speaker B: Let's do it next week. [02:01:39] Speaker A: Okay, I'll find it next. [02:01:39] Speaker B: Time's ticking. [02:01:40] Speaker A: Time is ticking. Yeah, it's 9:30. All right, well, that brings me to Paul Carpenter. This image is from a few years back. Yeah, isn't that. Isn't that cool? Yeah, there's a lot going on, just swirling. [02:02:02] Speaker B: But it all works, doesn't it? [02:02:04] Speaker C: There is, yeah. But it all ties in beautifully. [02:02:06] Speaker B: And your eye just travels around in this beautiful circle around the whole frame. [02:02:12] Speaker C: Amazing. [02:02:12] Speaker B: Paul. [02:02:13] Speaker C: The. I like the foreground. It's very standard tech, although continuous texture and color. Yeah, probably a little bright, but it leads in beautifully. And just that you got the lovely color. Color palette there between the orange sky and the blue ocean. [02:02:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:02:31] Speaker C: And. Yeah. And the arc of the bay just also leads you around to the wave on the right. And now that's. That's really nice. Really, really nice. [02:02:39] Speaker A: Interesting that you mentioned the foreground being bright. I'd love to know, because this is something I'm not a landscape Photographer. So is, would a circular polarizer have helped cut that down a little bit and maybe retain some of the color in the reflection or. I'd love to know. Paul, did. Did you use a CPL or, or not that I'd be interested to know because that should, that's, that's what that would do, right, Levin? That would potentially cut a little bit of that foreground. [02:03:08] Speaker C: Yes. It basically would cut away the reflection and you'd see the darker rock below. Normally you do traditionally try to keep the foreground a little bit darker because anything bright is a bit distracting. It kind of still works in this image anyway because it's like a mirror reflection with the sky above. So it sort of does bring a bit of symmetry to it. So I think if you had used the polarizer and made it jet black, it probably wouldn't be as good. So I do like the fact that it's got the reflection there because it's also picking up on the color. Personally, I just think maybe a touch too bright. I think just, just turn it down a tiny, tiny little bit because it is competing against the sky. In fact, it's almost brighter than the sky. But I think the fact that you are getting the reflection and the picking up the color of the sky, I think it works really well. Mighty thing I'll just tweak a tiny bit is just drop that brightness down just a little bit. But the rest of it is beautiful. Well, well, it's all beautiful. It's a lovely image. [02:04:14] Speaker A: I'll read out the rest of this. It says so I rediscovered it this morning as my phone was on charge and just started scrolling through random photos. The Hawaiian coastline east of Waikiki is spectacular, spectacular, as are the sunrises and sunsets. You often get heaving seas and fiery skies. You also get very wet when a rogue wave hits. The ledge you're on sends a wall of water vertically into the air and the wind picks it up and dumps it on you and your camera. There's a Canon 5D Mark III 24 to 72.8 at 24 mil, fifth of a second at F8. And in the chat he says might have had circular polarizer on, but was pointing towards the sunrise, not 90° off. [02:04:59] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Because the polarizers don't do a heck of a lot when you're pointing straight at it. Yeah, but yeah, so as I said, beautiful image. The only minor thing I would just suggest, just as a slight improvement, is just for me, just darken that foreground. Just a touch, but it's lovely. It's even got the beautiful sky reflection in the waves themselves. Like in the ocean. [02:05:22] Speaker B: Yeah, in between. [02:05:24] Speaker C: In between the white spray, it's picking up the golden color there, so. [02:05:28] Speaker B: And to be fair, we're seeing this image kind of like fourth hand through the Internet, through a screen, you know, so there's a lot of detail and stuff is lost, but yeah, it. [02:05:38] Speaker A: It looks great on a monitor, that's for sure. Yeah, yeah, the ocean. [02:05:42] Speaker B: Wonderful. [02:05:44] Speaker A: Okay, quick one from LTK. It just says merely shot with X Pro 2 with Pentax 100 mil. Sorry? Thousand mil at f8 at minimum focus distance of 30 meters. [02:05:59] Speaker B: What? That's insane. [02:06:02] Speaker A: So a thousand mil, a pentax thousand mil f8. That is crazy. Yeah, right? It's sharp. [02:06:11] Speaker C: Imagine that would be a big, heavy, long lens. So 10 out of 10 for getting a sharp image. [02:06:15] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [02:06:17] Speaker B: Yep. [02:06:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:06:18] Speaker C: Great work. [02:06:21] Speaker A: Yeah. It's so, so hard with bird. Yeah. I don't know if I'll ever take photos of birds. So hard to find a clean background with birds because. Because these longer lenses you can get, you know, a beautiful soft bokeh background, but not if there's anything that's within, say, a meter of the bird. [02:06:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:06:42] Speaker A: You know, it's got to be almost equal distance from you that you are from the bird behind them or further for that background to be soft. And it can be really tricky to get them, you know, you know, in a clean spot. [02:06:54] Speaker C: So. [02:06:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:06:55] Speaker A: Well done. Okay. Finally, before we do Greg, is Phil Thompson, winner of. What do we call it? Photo of the Year Something. [02:07:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Camera Life photo of the year 2025. [02:07:14] Speaker A: Not sure if there are any time or date limits, as this is a shot from past years to submit for the Monday night podcast. No, there's not Monday nights. Whatever. We just roll with it. We might. We might do categories or something in the future, narrow it down a bit in some shows. But at the moment, whatever. Whatever tickles your pickle. These have been a favorite for the past 12 years. Now, there was a summer storm on February 19, 2014, which dumped 50 mils of rain in an hour on the Geelong football ground and Geelong cbd. These were captured at Barrabool and Ceres, just west of Geelong. I was able to get behind the storm and then drive back and forth between three or four locations in that area during roughly an hour's duration. These were Captured between about 5, 10 and 6:01pm Shot on my Pentax K3, which I had at the time and a Pentax 18 to 135 lens. Image number 35 actually won a place in the 2015 Elders Rural Calendar. I'll tell you which one. You guys can try and guess which One image number 35 is actually. That'd be fun. Oh, no, you. Oh, no. Can you see? No, you can't see. Perfect. You guys can try and guess. All right. Look at the sky and the color of it. [02:08:32] Speaker C: That looks nasty. [02:08:33] Speaker A: It does look nasty. [02:08:35] Speaker C: But the. [02:08:36] Speaker B: The contrast between the gold of the land and the. You know, that ultra dark, brooding sky is just gorgeous. [02:08:43] Speaker A: It's so good. [02:08:45] Speaker C: Yeah, they're wonderful scenes when you can get that. When the foreground is lit up bright. [02:08:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:08:50] Speaker C: Just makes the sky look so much darker and threatening. So. Yeah, they're wonderful when you get that situation. [02:08:57] Speaker A: Yeah, it's. It's just ethereal and it's like you just know. You know that smell that's in the air when this is happening and that. Yeah, just, you know exactly what it's like. Yeah. Even that cow looks a little stressed out. [02:09:12] Speaker C: I think in this case it's a smell of fear. It would be. [02:09:18] Speaker A: Any guesses as to which one? Number 35. [02:09:21] Speaker B: Which one? [02:09:23] Speaker A: With the one incorrect. [02:09:26] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I think. Sorry. Just go the other one there, Justin. [02:09:30] Speaker A: So I'll go through them. [02:09:31] Speaker C: There's this one. [02:09:32] Speaker A: Yeah. And then there's this one. And then the final one was with [02:09:36] Speaker C: the tree, I reckon. The tree. That's gonna be my. My guess. [02:09:41] Speaker A: No, it's actually this one. [02:09:43] Speaker C: Oh, there you go. [02:09:44] Speaker B: Oh, there you go. [02:09:46] Speaker A: Can't pick them. Yeah, I. I love the tree one as well. I don't know. I think. Yeah, the tree. That's sky with the trees. Like that looks like a movie or something. Yeah, yeah. It's so good. It's got the fence just running through it. [02:09:57] Speaker C: Tree is up to it and. [02:09:59] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [02:10:01] Speaker C: It's sort of like it's trying to extend its hand up into the sky. So now, like that. And the fence is a nice leading line taking you to the rest. [02:10:07] Speaker A: So. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it was this one, which was image number three. Yeah. Yeah. I think David Liberati picked it and. Yeah, that. That is cool. I can see what, like. I guess that is very elders rural, too. Just that, like rural road. Yeah. Classic scene. [02:10:28] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:10:28] Speaker A: Awesome. Great images. I can see why they're favorites. They're a sort of. You can't just go out and make that happen. Okay. That's it. That's the show. [02:10:42] Speaker B: Oh, you weren't going to show my Photos. Oh, yeah. You tease the people. [02:10:46] Speaker A: Well, because you're not on the thing. I forgot in these last five seconds. Hang on, I got this. No, I don't. [02:10:50] Speaker B: We don't have to do it. We can do it next week. [02:10:52] Speaker C: I'll be right. No, no, no, no. [02:10:53] Speaker A: They're right here. They're right here. Everyone wants to see you're back. Here we are. I need to put you at the bottom of the list if I'm going to do it that way. Okay, Tell us about it, Greg. [02:11:05] Speaker B: I can't remember which photos I put in. [02:11:09] Speaker A: Here they are. [02:11:10] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Oh, that was so. So caring. So I had a doctor's appointment last week. I twinged my neck a bit. I had to go see the quack, as my dad likes to call them. And I had, like, you know, 45 minutes to wait, and I wandered around South Melbourne and the South Melbourne market and just playing around with my brand new 1.4 lens. Shooting wide open. Yeah, it was fun. It was good. And I on this shoot in particular, because I was working with at F1.4. Normally, I don't shoot street photography at that. Usually I shoot at f8, but now that I've got a 1.4 lens, I just can't seem to take it off. 1.4. And so what I've been doing with my street shots more recently while testing this new lens is I'm looking for the main character. Who's the hero of the photo? Who's the person that we want in, you know, in sharp focus, preferably. Who do we want to isolate? No, it's all auto. It's. It's auto focusing, and it's. It's a new 23 mil. You go. [02:12:19] Speaker C: Sorry, I was just gonna say a few of those images earlier because cameras do. Oh, I'll go. All right. [02:12:27] Speaker B: Yeah, you go. [02:12:27] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. Just go back a couple of images if you can, Justin. Because usually cameras, if they auto focus, they tend to focus on the closest subject where clearly it hasn't. Clearly it's picked the guy in the middle. So whatever focusing method you're using, I. [02:12:43] Speaker B: I did use eye tracking at first, and then I turned it off because it was always choosing the wrong hero. You know, if I was in a crowd space like this or any of these photos where there's multiple people around, it would always. That little green box would always land on the person I didn't want, you know, So I just went back to still autofocus, but I was using the little nub joystick on the back of My food when you Fuji camera to select it. Yeah. So I had to be quick because obviously things move pretty fast on the streets and. Yeah. Just sort of playing around with shallow depth of field, trying to kind of pick out the main characters in a shot and. And yeah, it was a lot of fun. It's a great lens. I'm loving it. [02:13:27] Speaker C: It's. [02:13:27] Speaker B: The autofocus is faster than any Fuji lens I've previously tested. And you know, in the words of one Jay Castles, that crop sensor has a surprising amount of detail in it. [02:13:41] Speaker C: It does, it does. [02:13:44] Speaker B: That made my day when you said that. When you said I was. Oh, I was like a pig and I probably promise he was like, finally he sees it. [02:13:52] Speaker A: I didn't say it never. It just, just doesn't have as much as my camera. [02:13:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [02:13:57] Speaker A: So it does it. You could. When you zoom in on your full, full res images. Yeah. There's plenty of detail in those, in those senses. And then when you throw a lens like that on it, that's sharp, like super sharp. [02:14:09] Speaker B: Even wide open through the whole. Yeah, even wide open. Like you're just getting gorgeous detail. And, and actually Neil from Fujifilm Australia, when, when he sent it down to me, I've purchased this lens, I now own it. He said, you're going to appreciate this new lens on a 40 megapixel sensor because this lens was made for 40 megapixel sensors. [02:14:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:14:31] Speaker B: You know, like it's really optimized for these current flagship sensors and processes and it's true, it's coming through. I'm finding great confidence and joy in, in my, you know, photography outings, which is great. You know, I'm finding, I'm finding that joy in photography, hunting the light. And yes, it's not always about new gear but sometimes it bloody helps, you know. [02:14:53] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think you'll find that this will. It's not you like you won't completely change your photography style to only shooting wide open, but it'll. It'll help maybe take your street photography to. Yeah. Like you'll have a new dimension unlocked for when you want it. And doing this exercise where you're looking for the hero of the shot that might inform a shot that when you're shooting with F8, you might still look for the hero of the shot. But yeah, it doesn't matter that they're all in focus because the hero will still be there. [02:15:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:15:28] Speaker A: But this exercise is helping you like develop that eye because you know that [02:15:34] Speaker C: you to choose, isn't it? [02:15:35] Speaker A: Exactly where whereas with F8, you're like, I'll see later who. Who was compelling in that scene. Whereas you're having to pick it now because otherwise, if the compelling person's out of focus, you're like, oh, damn it, I wish that person had been in focus. So it's. Yeah, it's actually a really cool exercise to do where you're having to pick on the fly really quick. Who am I focusing on in this moment? Yeah, it's very cool. [02:15:57] Speaker B: Yeah, it's been good. And, you know, I often would shoot from the hip, even at F8. Well, at F8, I'd shoot from the hip on my old lenses because [02:16:07] Speaker C: my [02:16:07] Speaker B: original 23, which is only an F2, but it's. It's so much different in quality and character to this new lens, the 1.4. But I'd always shoot at f8 for street. And shooting from the hip meant that I knew everything was in focus. But even with this, I was doing hip shots at 1.4, looking down at the screen, and it was just. Yeah, it was just nailing it. [02:16:30] Speaker C: It was great. [02:16:33] Speaker A: Very good. [02:16:33] Speaker C: Photography can be a bit like photographing in a forest. There's just. In a forest, there's just so many trees. Yeah. Random crap. [02:16:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:16:42] Speaker C: To try and pick a subject or the focus of the image out of that is almost impossible. And occasionally with street photography, not that I've done a lot of it, I admit, but occasion with that, when you just got a sea of people there. Yeah, yeah. To try and pick the subject out of that. Yeah. As I say, liking it to being in a forest, but having that shallow depth of field and forcing you to choose it and focus on it, it's got to improve your photography and improve your. Yeah. [02:17:09] Speaker B: And just my speed to composure as well, because I've. I don't. I don't have the luxury because everything's moving. Often I'm moving while I'm taking the shot, let alone all the subjects, the traffic, the people on bikes and scooters and skateboards and, you know, there's lots going on. It's very dynamic. So it's. [02:17:24] Speaker C: Yeah, you're probably going to have fun in the early days, but as you get better at it, you'll get. It'll improve and improve and improve. You'll be able. [02:17:32] Speaker B: Yep. Thanks, dad. [02:17:37] Speaker C: You'll get there. You'll get. Yeah. The white bow. I know. Yeah. Well, that's. [02:17:44] Speaker B: That brings us to the end of the show. [02:17:45] Speaker A: It does. It does. What do we need to say to wrap up? [02:17:49] Speaker B: Well, first and foremost, I think, yeah, we do need to say that Levin is awesome. Levin, thank you so much for joining us tonight. I know I sprung this on you last minute this morning. I mean you were always coming on the show today to talk about your images and your new camera. But we said, hey, why don't you hang around and just help us, help us out because we obviously need the help Justin does. [02:18:12] Speaker C: I'm like a bad smell sometimes. Hard to get rid of. [02:18:14] Speaker B: Yeah, well, we can just unplug it. So that's the, that's the easy part for us. But Levin, thank you so much as always. Always a pleasure to have you on. Amazing to hear your stories, your adventures and that you're continuing to refine your craft and learn new ways to make images. I think that's wonderful. I certainly hope that when I finally get to you, I age, that I'm feeling exactly the same, the same about my craft too. [02:18:42] Speaker C: But to go meet you on the show that you do, it's really, really good. You're putting stuff out there and you're keeping the interest alive. You're interviewing some really, really impressive people with some really unique stuff. And, and I like the mixture I have, you know, the random show like this bit of everything versus the full on interviews you do on the Thursday morning. So I think it's a great and wish you well then and I know it'll go well. So. And thank you for letting me have a little brief part of it. [02:19:11] Speaker B: Anytime you want, anytime you want. We'll always make space for you, Leon. [02:19:15] Speaker C: Exactly. [02:19:16] Speaker B: But good luck with the tours. Obviously for those of you who may have joined late, Levin's got a bunch of tours that based here in Australia, in Victoria, but also some overseas. So head to Rearview Photography and check out the tours that are on offer there. No commitment. There's actually an inquire now option. Make an inquiry and you can just join a bit of a newsletter and get some updates on on how those tours are progressing. There are tour dates available for this year, next year and the year after in 2028. So head to Rearview Photography now. What else? This episode has been proudly brought to you by Lucky straps. Head to Luckystraps.com we. That's us. I know I haven't got a Lucky Straps top on. Sorry boss. We are Lucky Straps. 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[02:21:37] Speaker A: Yeah, always good to see you. Should we roll? Should we roll? [02:21:40] Speaker B: We roll. [02:21:41] Speaker C: Be safe everybody. [02:21:42] Speaker B: Get out and shoot. [02:21:45] Speaker A: Dennis is legends. You're a legend, Dennis. Today Tweak Productions told a customer head of the Lucky Straps website. That's nice. Thank you. Thanks for another great show. Also Phil Thompson says another fantastic show, guys. And Levin's photos and stories are incredible. [02:22:01] Speaker C: Incredible. [02:22:01] Speaker A: They are. They're rare and amazing. Very, very cool. I want to see more. Rick Nelson, a great show as always. Thank you. Levin, Justin and Greg Tintype, man. Great show Levin. Nice to finally have a professional on. [02:22:16] Speaker C: Oh, that's good. [02:22:17] Speaker A: That's great. David Leporati, thanks for another great show again. David Skinner. That was good. Thanks. Felicity Johnson. Night all. Thanks Levin. David Leporati said nice images, Greg, which is pretty cool. Everyone was loving Greek's images. [02:22:30] Speaker B: Thanks guys. [02:22:31] Speaker A: Thanks everybody. Thanks Paul. Thanks Felicity. Thanks. Who else? Who else was here, everybody? [02:22:39] Speaker B: Lisa was here. [02:22:40] Speaker C: Lisa. [02:22:42] Speaker A: Oh yeah, I don't know. Brett wood was even here. It was crazy. Oh, this was a new person. Shamus, titter3346 says there's a Canon G7X on the way. There is? [02:22:55] Speaker C: Toodles. Yeah. [02:22:56] Speaker B: Bye, everybody. Be safe.