MacBook Goes Touchy-Feely! LIVE with Bruce - The Random Photography Show

Episode 228 • November 02, 2026 • 01:58:15
MacBook Goes Touchy-Feely!  LIVE with Bruce - The Random Photography Show
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MacBook Goes Touchy-Feely! LIVE with Bruce - The Random Photography Show

Nov 02 2026 | 01:58:15

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Is Apple Finally Going Touchscreen?
Bruce Moyle joins us tonight on the The Random Photography Show

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sam. Well, g' day everybody and welcome back to the Camera Life podcast. It is the random photography show. It is Monday, 2nd November. I cannot believe that I'm having conversations with my family today about Christmas. Do you know how awful that is? We'll get to that a little bit later maybe, but being a Monday evening, we have our random photography show. We have a lot, a lot to get through. We've got some amazing news to share. We've got a truckload of images that you guys have been sending in. Thank you to everyone. Hopefully we've got them all this time. But of course, the peanut butter to my white bread sandwich. It's Bruce Moyle everybody, joining us tonight as co host in Justin's absence. Bruce, how are you? [00:01:06] Speaker B: I am good. [00:01:08] Speaker A: You are good. Peanut butter. Peanut butter is so much better than anything else. Are you a peanut butter? [00:01:13] Speaker B: I. I hate peanut butter, dude. Really? Except for satay, I. I am a satay lover. But I really [00:01:20] Speaker A: dislike [00:01:21] Speaker B: peanut butter. [00:01:22] Speaker A: You're such an enigma. [00:01:24] Speaker B: Well, I don't [00:01:24] Speaker A: like [00:01:25] Speaker B: either, so, you know. [00:01:26] Speaker A: Oh really? What. What is your spread of choice? Let me rephrase that. What is your morning breakfast spread of choice? [00:01:32] Speaker B: Don't have one because I don't eat toast or stuff like that with spreads. [00:01:36] Speaker A: Who are you? I'm boring. Know you anymore? [00:01:39] Speaker B: No. [00:01:40] Speaker A: Where did you go? You just [00:01:41] Speaker B: haven't put in the time, man. [00:01:42] Speaker A: No, I haven't. I haven't hung out with you first thing in the morning enough. Clearly. What is your go to breakfast when you do break your fast? [00:01:50] Speaker B: I have wheat Bix with yogurt and protein powders and stuff. And coffee. [00:01:55] Speaker A: Such a nerd. [00:01:57] Speaker B: I am a nerd. [00:01:58] Speaker A: Such a nerd. I don't even know why we're friends anymore. Bruce, always good to have you on the podcast. Like I said, we do have a lot to get through tonight, but before we do that, I really want to just. Just get things going right right away. Bruce, can you please do a lucky strap sand read? [00:02:16] Speaker B: Well, I'll do it in a voice which Dennis School of Light has said, don't talk so loud. I am video editing. So here you go. This is for you, Dennis. [00:02:24] Speaker A: Whatever. [00:02:24] Speaker B: If I can get this to move over into my eyeline. This is brought to you by Lucky Straps. Comfortable leather camera straps with a modern quick release that leaves no dongles on your camera. Anti theft features including a safety lock and a cut resistance webbing. Our camera straps will keep your gear safe and ready to capture the shot when you don't have a second chance. Check them out at www.luckystraps.com. that's www.luckystraps.Com. [00:02:59] Speaker A: oh, I've got chills, folks. You've heard it here first, please drop a score out of five in the chat. Let us know how you would rank Bruce in the great Lucky Straps ad read of 2026. This is the first time. I mean, Dennis has done it. He's done a fair job. I will say that he's. He certainly put in, put in the time. Speaking of Dennis, I think Dennis is in the chat. Should we say good day to some people in the chat? See who's watching along with us tonight? First up, it is Dennis Smith, School of Light. Yeehaw. Great to have you on board. Dan goes on to say in saying that the MacBook does not fold to make the screen available to use with a pen. I use my iPad to edit images. Helps with heaps. Sorry with the pen. We will get into the new MacBook announcements. Who else we've got? We've got Henry Higgins, outdoorist. G', day, Henry Higgins. Welcome, welcome. [00:03:56] Speaker B: I [00:03:57] Speaker A: think new MacBooks that come. It is Henry Higgins. It's got a good, good ring to [00:04:01] Speaker B: it. We'll [00:04:01] Speaker A: get to [00:04:02] Speaker B: the tourist. [00:04:03] Speaker A: The outdoors [00:04:04] Speaker B: adjacent to nudist, isn't it? [00:04:07] Speaker A: Maybe, [00:04:08] Speaker B: maybe, [00:04:09] Speaker A: maybe, maybe they exist together. Outdoor nudity. Speaking of which, Philip Johnson's in the chat. G', day, mate. Good to have you here. Paul's in as well. Who else we've got? Tristan X is on board. Lucinda, who's had a very busy day, first and foremost coaching me to be better at my socials. Lisa Leach is here. John Latimer's joined us. Felicity Johnson. Lisa has done it again. Yes. You've sent me your image far too late. Richard Mail is here. Who else we got? We've got Chris. Chris Nielsen has joined us. G', day, Chris. David Skinner, Craig Murphy. Craig, great to have you on board. Once again, Gareth Davies is here. And anyone else we've got? Rick Nelson has joined the chat. We've got Tweet Productions. G', day, Tweak. Good to have you on board. Gosh, the comments are already flying in. I can't even keep up with them. [00:05:04] Speaker B: Yeah, [00:05:06] Speaker A: yeah, [00:05:06] Speaker B: but let's [00:05:06] Speaker A: get on with it. Let us indeed get on with it. Let's kick off with. With something that's probably important to a lot of us in the. In the photographic spaces. You know, when we come to edit images, we want a reliable machine, whether it be a PC or a Mac. Clearly buying a PC for photo editing is A fool's game. And everyone should just steer straight to the Apple website. That's my view and I'm not paid to say that either. But Apple have just revealed some new MacBook Pro models that finally, finally, finally break the mold in a couple of different ways. The first of which is that the MacBook, the new MacBooks feature a touch sensitive screen. [00:05:46] Speaker B: They do. [00:05:47] Speaker A: What are you, you're, you're a video editor and a photo editor. You do a butt ton of work on your computer. How does this, how does this sound for you? [00:05:57] Speaker B: It's interesting actually. Like right, so Apple have said for a long time they weren't going to do a touchscreen because they've got an iPad. So why cannibalize market and all sort of stuff. And they've finally done it. They've only done it on one model so far which is the 14 inch MacBook Pro. Maybe is this 16 as well? Sorry, [00:06:19] Speaker A: it's on those two. Yeah, [00:06:20] Speaker B: yeah. So what's interesting about this is most of it is the same and it's actually using an older generation of chip because they've just announced the M6. This is still in the M5 but the screen itself is a new stacked OLED which means it's got insane contrast ratios. And then they added the touchscreen element to it as well and it has fully calibrated disgray for. I think it's full P3 as well as Adobe RGB so you can edit film and video on this and photos for press which is awesome. And a fairly big rec 2020 gamut. Do you want to throw the thingy up, Greg? The website? [00:07:02] Speaker A: Oh yes, absolutely. Here we go. [00:07:05] Speaker B: So it's, it's kind of cool. I've been needing a new machine for a while. This is tempting. The touch screen is interesting. I have definitely found myself trying to use my screen a few times. There's all those little stats there but you know if you're using it for editing in critical and critical applications, you're not going to touch the screen because you have to clean it. Well [00:07:36] Speaker A: that's the thing, isn't it? Does it work with Apple pencils? [00:07:42] Speaker B: No, it doesn't. So [00:07:43] Speaker A: that's something. [00:07:45] Speaker B: But like I reckon that'll come in the future and I reckon what will happen is, is that they'll gradually roll out the touch screen across every model and then they might roll out the Apple pencil stuff but they still don't have face ID on them either. And that should have been there for a long time. [00:08:03] Speaker A: But yeah, [00:08:04] Speaker B: it's still just fingerprint id. [00:08:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:08:08] Speaker B: For me it's interesting. Is it worth a starting price of $4500 for the [00:08:15] Speaker A: 4600 for the 14 inch? Just, just the baseline model? I don't believe that is with the fancy pants screen. Hang on. [00:08:24] Speaker B: No, I think that is with the fancy pants screen. I'm gonna go. [00:08:26] Speaker A: The other one is Nano texture glass, which is a high quality. [00:08:30] Speaker B: No, the Nano textures is a matte screen, not a high quality screen. [00:08:35] Speaker A: Well, well, it's worse for more money. [00:08:39] Speaker B: Well, it depends on how you like matte screens. Like the screen I've got looking right now is a matte eyes eye screen and this one is not so matte so it means it gets less reflections as well. So if you're going to be using it in an environment where lots of things are changing, which is not recommended, but if you need to, and you still need to do good work, a nano texture might be your way to go. But yeah, they, they, they rack up pretty exit. So 4600 is kind of where Macs have been sitting in the laptop range for a while. It's a bit expensive for the 14, but that's generally the MacBook Pros have kind of started in that ballpark and as per usual, you can ramp them up to insanely godly prices and. Well, [00:09:28] Speaker A: I, I undertook such activity because it's one of my favorite things to do whenever Apple release a new product is to see just how whack I can make a machine. Do you want to give it a shot with the 16 [00:09:38] Speaker B: inch? I'm doing up the 16. We'll go to the max. We're going to go to the full 40 core GPU. No, we're going 128 gig buddy. Not 2 terabytes. 16. 16's only 10 grand. [00:09:56] Speaker A: Wow. [00:09:58] Speaker B: Let's go. Yeah, give me the full install of Final Cut, which I never use because it's still a bit silly. And same with Logic Pro. No trade in. We keep our max forever. It's only $23,000. Yeah. But you can still use your pen with Sidecar if you've got a decent iPad and it does. So yeah, that's fine. [00:10:24] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. [00:10:24] Speaker B: I'm still partial to Wacom [00:10:28] Speaker A: Tablet. Yeah, I had one of those years ago. Like it was a very early one. It was, wasn't very sensitive, it wasn't very accurate but gosh, it was a clever idea. Oh [00:10:37] Speaker B: no, they're [00:10:37] Speaker A: still [00:10:38] Speaker B: brilliant. [00:10:39] Speaker A: Yeah. So, so much further than when I was playing around. So for as little as $24,000. You can have the premium optimal MacBook Pro experience. [00:10:49] Speaker B: I'm just going to put my PayPal ID into the chat, fellas, so if you wish to buy me one, that'd be great. [00:10:58] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, we're starting to go fund me for Bruce for a new machine. He's looking for a new machine. I'm still quite happy. I've got a late 2024 MacBook Pro, 14 inch that I had supercharged a little bit. And yeah, I'm more than happy with mine. [00:11:14] Speaker B: Wouldn't you feel like. Wouldn't it feel like a letdown when you get this machine? It's like, you know, $23,000 and what's in the box? This feels really underwhelming. Doesn't. [00:11:27] Speaker A: Yeah, it doesn't. [00:11:29] Speaker B: For this much money. At least this should be included Apple. Or [00:11:34] Speaker A: at least it comes in a handcrafted, you know, timber, recycled timber. Box of some. Some kind. You know, that would be. [00:11:40] Speaker B: I want the new, new Tim Apple [00:11:41] Speaker A: Velvet pusher [00:11:42] Speaker B: to me. [00:11:43] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:11:44] Speaker B: I can't remember his name. Whoever's replaced Tim Cook. [00:11:48] Speaker A: Yeah, what is this? What is the new guy's name? [00:11:50] Speaker B: I can't remember. I [00:11:51] Speaker A: can't remember it. [00:11:51] Speaker B: It hasn't sunk in yet. Anyway, that's the max. [00:11:55] Speaker A: Yep. But I am really curious to know. Folks in the chat, let me know. Are you. Are you using an Apple environment for photo and video editing or are you still stuck with a piece? Sorry. Or are you using a PC? I [00:12:10] Speaker B: use both. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Let us know [00:12:11] Speaker B: why not both. Or are you on Linux? [00:12:15] Speaker A: Yeah, Linux. See, my son editor said he uses Linux. Such a nerd. So proud of him. [00:12:20] Speaker B: It's becoming a easier thing to use. A lot easier. Which is great. [00:12:26] Speaker A: Yeah. And highly customizable. So I love that for you people. All right, well, look, maybe before we get into any more news, I've got a. We've got a lot of images to get through, so want to just dive straight into a few images and let's just. Let's just get the ball rolling on that. [00:12:43] Speaker B: Who's up first? Tell me, [00:12:45] Speaker A: Tristan from Tokyo [00:12:47] Speaker B: Snap. Okay, [00:12:49] Speaker A: one image. [00:12:51] Speaker B: All right, let me go to the share screeny thing again. Look at me go. Look at me go. Everybody praise me. There we go. Tristan. Tokyo Snap. [00:13:02] Speaker A: Yep. I think because Tristan comments. Last week we're talking about Japan, my never ending quest to return one day. And Tristan said, thanks for the amazing podcast. This is my first time sending an image taken with the Fujifilm XT3 and the old 35.1.4. Greg also let me know if you ever do make it back to Japan. I would love to show you around. That's. That's the other go fundy. We're starting tonight. [00:13:28] Speaker B: I'm coming too, because I've never been to Japan and I've always wanted to go. [00:13:33] Speaker A: It's amazing. It is amazing. But yeah, amazing image. I love it. I love the, the sequencing and the, the spacing between the people and the, the symmetry of them. It's really cool. X [00:13:47] Speaker B: marks the spot. [00:13:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:13:50] Speaker B: Like it's got. You can tell where it is because it's got Ginza on the. On the graffiti. If that's. No, you don't really have a lot of graffiti like that in Japan, do you? It's. [00:14:00] Speaker A: It's getting worse. [00:14:02] Speaker B: No, [00:14:03] Speaker A: no, no, you're not wrong. It is, it is growing. I mean, Tristan could probably tell us what it's like now, but I know when I went there were, there were signs of graffiti, but they were in really sort of hidden areas. But I think with the boom in population, I mean, there's been news stories of people graffiti, you know, thousand year old stones that form part of a [00:14:26] Speaker B: temple, [00:14:27] Speaker A: know tagging stuff and things like that. In fact, I think some people were arrested and charged with graffiti ing a temple or a shrine or something. It was a couple of years ago. [00:14:36] Speaker B: Okay. That's not. [00:14:38] Speaker A: Yeah, no, not at all. It's crazy. But yeah. You know, over, over tourism can often lead to that. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:14:47] Speaker A: Does he actually [00:14:48] Speaker B: say anything? Oh, he did, he did actually. You've read out his message, right, sorry. Yes. Letting [00:14:54] Speaker A: my brain [00:14:54] Speaker B: catch up. Yeah. Cool, [00:14:56] Speaker A: man. Tristan, thanks for the offer of free accommodation too. I happy with a couch. Happy with a couch. Up next we have Chris Nielsen has sent in an image. [00:15:06] Speaker B: Is that with a Sierra K. So they're end of the line. [00:15:11] Speaker A: Yeah. I love this shot. I love the scale of this shot. Hi team. I wanted to shoot this, this dairy, what you probably call a milk bar down the road from me here in Hamilton, New Zealand, for years. But when I finally did so, I realized I liked the tree in front more. This was shot with a D500 with a 16 to 80 at 16 mil 1/10 of a second at ISO 800F 2.8 and processed in DXO. See you, Chris. Thank you, Chris. I love it. I love the scale that this. Yeah, isn't it? And just the like if the tree wasn't there and you were zoomed in. I saw that. I think it's the moon cutting through. [00:15:55] Speaker B: Well, that's actually clever. If You've kind of getting the moon to bring out more of the background, and then you get the neon greens because, you know, neon only has three bands of light happening, so. [00:16:10] Speaker A: Yep. But, yeah, I love this shot. It's great. It's. It's so characterful, and it. It tells a story on its own, you know, like, which came first? Obviously the tree. But the fact that they make a milk bus smack in front of a tree or smack behind a tree. Didn't [00:16:26] Speaker B: even think of that. [00:16:27] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it's great. [00:16:28] Speaker B: What's a parking 10 minutes? It feels like. It's like. It's like a vape store, but it also feels like a suit. Like a. What do you call it? Like, here you've got pies and stuff. Advertising. [00:16:43] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:16:44] Speaker B: And streets, which is like, for people outside of Australia, New Zealand is like ice cream. [00:16:50] Speaker A: Yeah. And there's Coca Cola. There was something else on the. Right. [00:16:52] Speaker B: Coke on there. I [00:16:54] Speaker A: remember that when I went to New Zealand, Isabelle and I took the kids when they were quite little to New Zealand for a week. But we stayed with friends. We didn't really explore New Zealand much. I know. I know that now. Back then, I wasn't a photographer. I was just a regular schlep. Yeah, pretty much. But what I love was, like, you'd go into the milk bar, or the dairy, as they call them, and it'd just be all the same products that we have here in Australia. And I know that's not very brave of me, you know, for going to a new country and trying new things, but it was just fascinating how familiar New Zealand felt just in the little details. [00:17:30] Speaker B: Well, it is another colony. [00:17:32] Speaker A: It isn't. Yeah, I guess it's all. It's all part of the empire. Hey, [00:17:35] Speaker B: the empire. [00:17:37] Speaker A: The empire. But great shot, Chris. Thank you. Very thought provoking, too. [00:17:44] Speaker B: That is so, like, tazzy as well. Like, having something like this. I could. I could literally could drive for five minutes and find something as reminiscent of this in the next sub over. [00:17:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. Oh, here's a good question from Leso. So. So what is it called when they milk, where they milk cows? [00:18:04] Speaker B: Like a dairy. [00:18:06] Speaker A: Yeah, but the dairy is the milk bar. So what's the cow milking location called? [00:18:15] Speaker B: I am missing this joke. [00:18:19] Speaker A: All right, we'll move on. [00:18:21] Speaker B: I'm dumb. [00:18:23] Speaker A: I don't want to cause a meltdown for Bruce. So let's move on to one more set of images. Greg Carrick has sent in two. [00:18:30] Speaker B: All right, so black and white or color first? [00:18:37] Speaker A: Let's go color. [00:18:38] Speaker B: All right. Here we go. [00:18:40] Speaker A: Hi boys and girls. Here's one image processed in two different styles. One is Vaguely Soul Lighter and the other is Do Mariama. So we're starting with the Color Sol. Two very different photographers, but both have similar philosophies. Photograph the way you feel, not by the rules. Use layers to shoot through reflections. Use negative space. Don't sweat over sharpness or focus. Embrace grain and blur. I really gravitate towards these styles and develop them on my own, not as a copy of Lighter and Mariama who caught my eye because they do what I like. Anywho, I'm busy collating images for an exhibition for sometime in 2027. Cheers. Greg [00:19:20] Speaker B: Carrick. Cool. [00:19:21] Speaker A: Love it. You know what else Greg's worked on? Greg is one of my, one of my print swap buddies now, but he sent me his latest book that he's put together. You better [00:19:33] Speaker B: take the screen down and put that up big for a sec. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Oh yeah, sorry. [00:19:37] Speaker B: I don't [00:19:38] Speaker A: have control of [00:19:38] Speaker B: the screeny screen. So. [00:19:41] Speaker A: Okay, so Bruce has gone completely. I love this show. So Greg has sent through his photo book which has got his, his grungy, very high contrast. I'm terrible at this street photography images and he sent that through to me today. I've got to send him a bunch of my, my prints because we're, we're coordinating a bit of a print swap post bfop. But yeah, thank you, Greg. Amazing. I've really thoroughly enjoyed going through that a few times today. And you know guys, if you're looking to do something with your prince, obviously Bruce. Hang on, let me get, let me get Bruce back in here because otherwise that's just rude. There he is. Yeah, obviously Bruce and I coordinated a print swap recently at the photography festival which will go unnamed but there's no reason why you can't share prints with, with mates. Do it, [00:20:31] Speaker B: do it, do it, do it. [00:20:33] Speaker A: You know, just go to officeworks, go to Big W, print some six by fours, drop them in an envelope, shoot them off to a friend, demand prints in return. It's that easy. [00:20:42] Speaker B: Is there a website where like, I don't know, this could be a bad thing to say live on the Internet like a way of doing like pen pals. But for print swaps, like a website you could register. [00:20:57] Speaker A: Oh, I think they have those for many prisons but I don't know about. For photography. Maybe there's something in that. Bruce, Maybe we can create something. [00:21:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I've got enough on my plate but [00:21:11] Speaker A: like the idea. Yeah, [00:21:15] Speaker B: bring up the screen again. We'll go to the black and white. [00:21:18] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. The black and white from Crackers. [00:21:21] Speaker B: Whoa. Okay. That's real different. That's a lot of grain. [00:21:28] Speaker A: Yeah, he loves the grain. Contrasty, grainy. [00:21:33] Speaker B: I like grain. But not sure if this is the best image for it. Like when it's that thick. [00:21:41] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:21:43] Speaker B: I'm not sure I'm going to go with a color I kind of like. I want the in between one. I want an in between. [00:21:53] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:21:54] Speaker B: yeah. Where it's a little less grainy and just a touch of color like this. Just, just, just a hint. [00:22:01] Speaker A: Yep, I see. [00:22:04] Speaker B: It's cool though. [00:22:05] Speaker A: I think, [00:22:05] Speaker B: I think this is just losing the grain's. Just losing a little too much of what's going on the image because it's so obscured by the reflection. [00:22:14] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:22:15] Speaker B: I think you're just losing a little bit too much there. But I like the idea. [00:22:20] Speaker A: Yeah, same. Yeah. Lovely work, Crackers. Constantly reinventing how he approaches his craft. I love it. [00:22:30] Speaker B: Cool. All right, [00:22:33] Speaker A: let's talk about some news. Probably just as well that we've got Bruce here tonight, folks, because the folks at Sony have officially announced a brand new Rialto 65 medium format camera, which is the front section of the camera, not the entire camera. And it is the Rialto 65. And at this point in time, it has been listed on B and h photo for US$80,000,000. Now, can we jump to a different image? Have you got the B and H link there? The second link on that. [00:23:05] Speaker B: Click here. [00:23:06] Speaker A: Running [00:23:06] Speaker B: sheet. [00:23:07] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:23:08] Speaker B: I think I found it. Is it going to load? There we go. [00:23:11] Speaker A: Yeah, if you can just jump to one of the images that shows the actual sensor removed from the camera body. So it's important to understand here that the camera that we're talking about, the $80,000 piece, is just the portion that's on the right hand side of the screen right now. So the bit that has the lens [00:23:27] Speaker B: mount [00:23:28] Speaker A: and the sensor in it, that's the eighty thousand dollar bit. How, how much is the. The rest of that's that particular camera Ballpark. What, what are we looking [00:23:37] Speaker B: at? Venice 2. Cine altar. I think it's 100 grand, but I could be wrong. Let's. Let's go look. I haven't looked. It's not something I usually go looking for, to be honest. It's not like, you know, window shopping for me. [00:23:50] Speaker A: That's fair. [00:23:52] Speaker B: That's fair. Nope. Let's go. Sony Venice 2. You don't buy these for yourself. [00:24:05] Speaker A: What, they're a gift. [00:24:07] Speaker B: No, you buy them As a rental house. [00:24:10] Speaker A: As a. What [00:24:11] Speaker B: it says here, this item cannot cancelled or returned. Choose wisely. It should have choose wisely beside it. Yeah. They'll only do it through Studio B and H because they are. They don't make a lot of them. So, yeah, it doesn't even have a price on it. So contact us sort of thing. I reckon It's. Yeah, 100ish phrase plus. Then you add. So that comes with a sensor on it. Right, like that. So there's probably a version where they've got the block off, where you've just got, as you saw before, [00:24:43] Speaker A: just. Yeah, just the back half. [00:24:47] Speaker B: So the reason why this got developed, you can thank Mr. Tom Cruise and Maverick too. So the original Rialto, which is the block here, was something that Sony, and still, as far as I know, Sony only do for cinema cameras, like their top end camera, because they wanted to mount the cameras in those jet fighters and they weren't allowed to modify it too much because of space and stuff and aeronautics and things. So they literally detached and developed the sensor block separate to the rest of the body. So they could put the body somewhere else and just have this data cable and power cable running it. And since then they went, oh, this is a really great idea, we should do this more. Because they've used it in a bunch of other stuff and now they've done it for a 65 mil sensor, so IMAX standard. So. [00:25:45] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:25:45] Speaker B: so now they're playing with the big boys of IMAX, which is film, usually film, if you want 70 mil and stuff. And obviously Fuji also do the Eterna, which is smaller but still kind of rated in that space. Yeah. So [00:26:06] Speaker A: same piece of gear. [00:26:08] Speaker B: Insane bit of gear. It's clever bit of gear. One of the ones I've seen use of this is where they put this in a backpack and they. And they just attach this to the gimbal then. Makes it so much easier to operate. [00:26:19] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it would too, wouldn't it? [00:26:21] Speaker B: Because this thing is [00:26:22] Speaker A: like you said it would. It would mean you could. You could get them into really tight spaces, like inside cars that you. That you're shooting in or whatever it may [00:26:30] Speaker B: be. Yeah. So I believe F1, that F1 movie on Apple TV did this as well, which [00:26:38] Speaker A: is [00:26:38] Speaker B: same people that did Maverick. So. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:26:42] Speaker B: yeah, [00:26:42] Speaker A: yeah. Well, that's very interesting. [00:26:45] Speaker B: It's a bit of. Bit of fun kit. One day. One day I'll get to play with it. Maybe [00:26:49] Speaker A: one day. In other news, let's take off this screen. I'll just Read some headlines. We'll save the people from the boring detail. In other news, Nikon accidentally mentioned a rumored z 70 aps c z mount camera in some of the promotional material that they released for the Nikon. The new Nikon Z120 to 300 F2.8. So there was some promotional material that went out and clearly they intended to announce the Nikon Z70APS C camera with that 120 to 300. Because in the promotional material it talks about how the APS C sensor allows for even further extension of your 120 to 300, which also has [00:27:37] Speaker B: a. [00:27:38] Speaker A: Yeah, what camera? And. Yeah, and they dropped that. There is a Z70. So cats out of the bag. Stay tuned for that. I imagine that Nikon won't take much longer to. Given that it's out there and the Internet remembers and keeps receipts of everything. I'm sure it won't be long before Nikon actually dropped formal announcement of that camera's existence. [00:27:57] Speaker B: So the cool thing about that though is the Z70. I'm not sure what it will have in it or anything, but a crop sensor or APSA sensor has two really good functions. If you want to do extreme telephoto because you get that extra reach or if you want to do macro so you can crop in like that 1 to 1 lens or 1 to 1.5 or whatever lens becomes a 1 to 2 or whatever. So yeah, if you're doing either of those ends like you're birding or your fast sport stuff or whatever where you need to get a brew reach or if you want to get closer, close, really close to something and not have to pay for a crazy Lauer lens or something, which probably doesn't work on that space anyway. I haven't looked at it because I don't use Nikon. I don't know. But anyway, yeah. And it's probably cheaper, which is cool. [00:28:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So we'll. We'll stay tuned for that. Good to see that Nikon is still, still intent. They haven't. I. Sorry, let me. I've just started 14 sentences and not finished on one of them. Great to see that Nikon back into releasing new product. They've been copying a bit of flack lately that nothing new has been coming from the Nikon stable. And their financial report came out a couple of days ago. I think for. For results in Canon as well. Canon are doing exceptionally well, particularly in the. I think the broadcast product space as well. [00:29:25] Speaker B: That's. [00:29:26] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:29:26] Speaker B: they've always reigned in there. [00:29:28] Speaker A: Yeah. And Nikon softer results, but they're still doing okay. So a couple of months or maybe a month ago we talked about how there was rumor that Nikon wasn't doing so well and they were, you know, there was questions about whether they could keep up with, with, with Canon because they had lost a big chunk of market share to Fijifilm predominantly. [00:29:50] Speaker B: Yeah, cool. [00:29:50] Speaker A: But here they are, which is very cool. Now we, we talked about this briefly last week I think, but we didn't have the official pricing. I may be wrong. The weeks are tending to blur into one another at the moment. But the Nikon, that Nikon Z120 to 300 over at our friends at camera house. So it's the new Nikon Nickel Z120 to 300F 2.8 with the built in teleconverter VR S lens is just shy of 24,000 Australian dollars. [00:30:28] Speaker B: There you go. Put it, put it up, Craig. [00:30:30] Speaker A: That's quite a big chunk of glass. It's quite a big chunk of cash. But it is a very, very, you know, special lens in terms of it's got a gorgeous wide open aperture. It's got a built in teleconverter and yeah, it's certainly a pro grade piece of glass. [00:30:48] Speaker B: You'd hope so. [00:30:49] Speaker A: Well, you'd want it to be, wouldn't you, at 24 grand, the price of a small car. What do small cars cost these days? I haven't bought a car in years. [00:31:00] Speaker B: Probably more than that. I don't know either. I haven't looked either. In other. In other news, if you want something that's sort of in this range and I don't think it's expensive, Adam Edwards has like a crazy telephoto on sale secondhand as well. I [00:31:13] Speaker A: saw that [00:31:13] Speaker B: quite sting that [00:31:16] Speaker A: nice. Yeah. [00:31:18] Speaker B: I can't remember any of the details, but I do remember him. It was something crazy like a 600 F4 or something crazy. I don't know. [00:31:27] Speaker A: Yep. So there you go. That's where. That's what Nikon's up to. Let me just take this one down. [00:31:33] Speaker B: Yep, [00:31:34] Speaker A: I'll just read a couple. Oh yeah, that's better. I like that, that look. [00:31:38] Speaker B: Yeah. Sorry, [00:31:39] Speaker A: I just completely took you out of the stage. Send him back to the green, folks. Yep. Just let him know who's in charge. We talked about Apple, we talked about Sony, we've talked about Nikon. In small news, something that is of absolute delight for me is that someone has created some custom firmware for the Fujifilm X70. So this is a 10 plus year old APS C fixed lens compact camera doesn't have an EVF but it has a tilting touchscreen. It's one of my favorite cameras to use for street photography. And some people are developing some, some new firmware and this isn't the first time I've seen this. This week I've seen a couple of other articles about people developing firmware not just for old cameras, but even for newer cameras if they can sort of get past whatever barriers may be in place that are adding features that the original, the actual, the original firmware doesn't actually cater for. And yet people are able to code their way into it to add new features. [00:32:42] Speaker B: I think you're going to see this a bit more often actually because you're seeing it in game consoles and other things as well as people are ripping and running games natively and stuff. And, and it's actually because of AI. People are using AI to work out loopholes or whatever else to get into firmware quickly and faster to actually do stuff. And that's kind of cool. Usually the issue is, and this happens when you jailbreak things like I'm just going to use the consoles as an example for that is usually they got a signature or a key in them which is proprietary information. That is usually if that gets leaked, that's when the copyright and the lawsuits happen and the do not cease and desists and stuff like that. But if you can do everything else apart from that little bit of information because that's like the, that's like the copy protection basically that string or whatever it is, that's. I don't know how many people remember when DVDs encryption were cracked which was. It was some simple thing that somebody like loose on the Internet by accident and just like everybody could now [00:33:52] Speaker A: everyone do [00:33:53] Speaker B: these. [00:33:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:54] Speaker B: And that. So. [00:33:55] Speaker A: And I know in the gaming like I know with Nintendo especially because I'm a big Nintendo fan with the switches, the Nintendo Switch that they have, it's like a, it's like a safety mechanism that if someone jailbreaks it and then takes us, takes the unit online, [00:34:10] Speaker B: it breaks [00:34:10] Speaker A: the Nintendo server will detect it and brick it and completely shut it down. So it's pretty much useless. [00:34:17] Speaker B: I'm [00:34:17] Speaker A: waiting for that [00:34:18] Speaker B: lawsuit to happen. [00:34:19] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I'm sure it's bound to happen soon. [00:34:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Because they said that before they even started selling the switch too. So it's not like it was unknown. But you know, there's that whole I bought it, it is mine. [00:34:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:34] Speaker B: You can't make this device Inefficient. It's like buying a phone and going to a website for whatever reason and then Apple or Samsung, whatever saying we don't like you looking at that website. So here you now have a dead phone. [00:34:48] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, [00:34:49] Speaker B: yeah. Like that's oversimplification but [00:34:53] Speaker A: no, yeah. And it is complex. You know, the end user agreements, none of us read them, let's face it, on anything we buy these days. And you know, they have all of those terms and conditions spelled out that you know, if you, if you step out of line, we're going to shut it down and you won't be able to use it, you know, and you'll have to get in touch with Nintendo or whoever the manufacturer is in that case. But getting back to this x70 update, so Jonas Rask, who is a very well known photographer, he's been heavily influenced. He heavily influent with Fujifilm, particularly in Europe. But he's also worked a lot with Fujifilm Japan on different releases. He's actually posted this and he said, are we even ready for this awesome source? Some amazing people. Oh yeah, some amazing people have started re engineering the Fujifilm X70 firmware. The project is called Fujimod.com and I seriously cannot begin to tell you all how amazing this is. Features including snap focus highlight, priority meeting, metering, live anamorphic D squeeze, ultra high JPEG quality, golden ratio, spiral viewfinder lines, real Ace and nostalgia negative film sims and a motherfucking 65 by 24 aspect ratio. This is an amazing little camera and it's, it's, it's got a bit of a cult status now. They cost more to buy secondhand now than they were when they [00:36:26] Speaker B: were [00:36:26] Speaker A: brand new. [00:36:29] Speaker B: They're basically doing the Red Lantern. [00:36:31] Speaker A: What's the red [00:36:32] Speaker B: magic light? Oh, magic Latin. [00:36:35] Speaker A: You [00:36:35] Speaker B: never heard of Magic Lantern? Oh man. So Magic Lantern was how they jailbroke and made firmware for the Canon 5D Mark 2 to add all the features that people wanted in a, you know, a movie camera which was a DSLR or mirrorless camera. It was DSLR at that time, was before mirrorless. They're still developing it. And you put the firmware on your card is a Mark 3 actually right here in my hand. See I do have more than just Sony people and you. Yeah, and then you get, and it just runs the firmware when it boots or you boot it with the firmware and it's non destructive and you get like all the things like focus, speed, like all these things you could do with it. It's really, really cool. So it sounds really similar to what they're doing here. Especially since it says it's non destructive and so you can get, you can have an on or off, because that was a big thing. People were like, I don't want to brick my camera. I don't want to have this. But magic word doesn't. So [00:37:35] Speaker A: you switch it on and off. That's pretty cool. So, yeah, I guess it's a sign of things to come as people get more and more tech savvy with stuff and tools to unpack what something like a camera has on board in terms of firmware, people can start to manipulate stuff. And I've said, like I said, I've seen other articles about this this week with different people doing it with different camera systems. I've seen videos of people loading video game systems onto their cameras, like emulators and playing Doom on the back of the camera. A whole bunch of crazy stuff is happening in this space and I'm not saying it's particularly creative, but it's just interesting to see what people are doing with cameras to, you know, basically push them beyond the manufacturer's design intent, which I think is interesting. It's brave and it's cool. [00:38:19] Speaker B: Plus, this [00:38:20] Speaker A: guy's got [00:38:20] Speaker B: a really cool, cool Instagram page. [00:38:24] Speaker A: Who, Jonas? [00:38:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I just followed him. He's very cool. [00:38:27] Speaker A: Yeah, no, if you haven't already, guys, go check out Jonas Rask. He was very involved with Fujifilm, then he stepped away for a bit. Now he's back and he. For the longest time he did a lot of the Fujifilm cameras and lenses product shots, the official product shots. And, and he actually inspired my approach to doing product photography, especially with camera gear. So, yeah, definitely worth checking out if you haven't seen Jonas Rask already. [00:38:56] Speaker B: Cool. For some more images before we [00:38:59] Speaker A: do some more images. Yeah. Where are we up to? We did Crackers. [00:39:04] Speaker B: Crackers. So, [00:39:06] Speaker A: Richard, mail. [00:39:08] Speaker B: Richard, where are you? Scroll down to the R's, Bruce. [00:39:13] Speaker A: There we go. [00:39:15] Speaker B: Cool. Get my reaction before I put it up. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that's very cool. Hello, Greg and Justin. Saturday, being Halloween, found me trick and or treating with the wife and daughter. This year I took along a camera when I saw an amazing costume. I approached the personal family, introduced myself and offered to take their portrait if they were interested. I had them write their email address on a mini whiteboard which had a short typed statement indicating that providing their email, I had full consent to shoot them and providing me permission to use the photo. Very technical. When I got home, I completed a Two click edit and emailed the photos to each family. That's very cool. That's really lovely. And this photo was my favorite of the night. And it's in color, shot with a Z9 with a 51.2. [00:40:05] Speaker B: Wow, [00:40:05] Speaker A: that's quite the lens. This was shot at 2.2. Seems a waste, but 1/800th of a second. ISO 250. Thanks for taking a look. Richard. Richard, this is an amazing shot. I love it. Very, very well. Very, [00:40:19] Speaker B: very Wednesday Adams. [00:40:21] Speaker A: Yeah, but even just like the cropping and the framing, like just how tight in it is, works really well. Yeah. Yeah, well done. [00:40:31] Speaker B: The. The. The idea of using a whiteboard or whatever to get permission and take a photo is actually really clever. I've done it a lot where something similar when I've done interviews and stuff, like on a clapperboard or whatever, I'll get them to write their email address or. And their name and stuff just so I know how to spell it. And it's a. It's an old journal thing as well. Like get people to spell out their names. Yeah. So you don't screw it up in the end. Or if you're handing it off to somebody else to edit. The other thing I tend to do. And I've done this. I used to do this. I haven't done it in a while actually. So if I'm working with somebody, say I'm doing nude shoots or whatever, just as an example for privacy, I'd shoot them with their ID to say that they're over age and everything else and stuff like that as well. And put it with my. Put it with the consent form so there is no ambiguity to it. So it's really clever to document in the camera. Not, not just getting a verbal consent or anything like that. These releases. [00:41:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:37] Speaker B: And. Yeah, so. And especially with kids and families, like get the photo with the kid and the mum and dad and the information. [00:41:46] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:41:47] Speaker B: yeah. So [00:41:48] Speaker A: just so you've got, you've got that. That sort of block of evidence that this is the process I took. [00:41:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And they agree to it and stuff. And you know, and it's always like, people can say afterwards, no, let's not do that. But at least you've. Yeah. You've come to places to a point. [00:42:04] Speaker A: Yeah. And just on. On that photo from Richard, just a couple of comments of. Coming through from Rick Nelson. Great photo. And from John Latimer, great shot. Couple of comments that I just want to quickly go through. Bruce, just on the firmware. On the firmware changes. [00:42:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:42:28] Speaker A: What have we got here from Rick Nelson. I use magic lantern software on my little Canon IXI 20 point and shoot to play Tetris and shoot in Raw. Why not? I love that. I love that. I love that. Why [00:42:43] Speaker B: not play Snake? [00:42:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, I remember Snake on the old Nokias. And from. From Jeff watched a Tony Northrop video today. I didn't get a chance to watch it because I can't stand the Northrops. I don't like watching. [00:42:57] Speaker B: They're banned on my YouTube. I don't ever want to see [00:42:59] Speaker A: those guys. There's a cheese factor there that I just don't. Just doesn't sit well with me. He was very excited to use. He's very excited to use Claude to be able to put Freedom units, AKA Imperial measurements on. There [00:43:13] Speaker B: is another reason why I will never watch that family again. [00:43:18] Speaker A: Yep, there it is. There it is. And thanks, guys. And then here's a little one from Tweak. My daughter loves cosplay, but always been nervous taking people's photos at cons. [00:43:31] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a hard one. [00:43:33] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:43:33] Speaker B: it's. It's. Cons are hard because, like, if people don't know, I. I was the technical director for Supernova, which is the biggest con show in Australia, comics and gaming and stuff, for 16 years. So I saw every breadth and depth of cosplay you could imagine and photographed a bit of it as well, because that's what I did. The way of doing it sometimes is not going full tilt into the big spaces. Go to a quieter space and then find people. Especially depending on where you are. If you're in a convention center where there is halls going between big areas, people tend to gather outside. They're not on the trade floor. And if you can get away from the trade floor, then it's a bit easier to go up to like a small group of people and actually asking the question about, can I get your photo and stuff. Trade floor is always hard because you've got people pushing past you, looking at stalls, you're blocking things and stuff like that. So it's a hard thing to always ask somebody. But the nice thing about conventions is with people costume, they're really excited for you to take their photo. Just ask nicely. Don't. Don't stand in the corner and try and take it sneakily because that's not good. Just introduce yourself and you go, hey, I love your costume. I love your Wednesday Adam. That is my favorite character, whatever it is. Or just go, I don't know what that is, but it's so cool. Tell [00:45:01] Speaker A: me about it. Yeah, ask that question. A couple of years ago, when I first started on the Camera Life podcast, I wrote Wrangled in Ian Tan, who was one of the first guests that I. I convinced to come on the show because I just went through my. My phone book. Phone book, my phone. And started contacting friends. And Ian is a cosplay photographer. He famously now runs a cosplay workshop at BEFOP every year. And he also does all the big conventions. And I wrote an article for Lucky Straps about. I think it was for Lucky Straps about Ian and his cosplay work. I just trailed him, you know, followed him around for a couple of hours and yeah, he set up in the hall and he was at a point in his journey where people recognized who he was and what he did. And so cosplay artists were, as they arrived at the convention, would make a beeline over to his side of the hall to have a chat and get some photos taken. And it was a really lovely experience because, you know, Ian's a bit of a closet nerd and he knows a lot of these cosplay characters, the stories and all the shows or the games or the animes or whatever it is they come from. And Ian really gets into it, starts asking him about their, you know, how their character fits into that world and, you know, make this move because he knows the moves of those characters from. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Yeah, [00:46:18] Speaker A: from the. The source materials. So I. I think it's. It's amazing. I think it's a fascinating sub genre of photography that's, you know, just growing [00:46:28] Speaker B: in. Oh, well, it's been around for a long time. It comes and goes and stuff, but it's. [00:46:32] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:46:34] Speaker B: this is like, you know, costume play. Cosplay. Costume play has been a big thing for a long time. And it's. I think it's gets people to really invest in doing things that are off a computer. Like you can learn sewing and fabrication and other things. [00:46:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:52] Speaker B: Which is amazing. And like, celebrate, you know, things you love. I did find it kind of overwhelming as well sometimes, because unfortunately, or fortunately, this depends on how you take it. Some people get very obsessive in this space as well, and it is a safe place to be like that. But sometimes you need to know how to do timeouts. [00:47:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. [00:47:15] Speaker B: Because that is [00:47:16] Speaker A: a lot [00:47:17] Speaker B: too much. There's a lot of energy. And so if you're into that sort of thing or if you want to explore that, go to the conventions, go to the small ones. There's lots of little micro cons around as well, even in Tasmania and things. So go do that like. And you'll find there's also like the 501st, which are the Stormtroopers and that Mando mercs do stuff as well like in the Star wars spaces heaps. And then you've also got your Doctor who people as well. And then you've got your Lord of the Rings people like this. There's any avenue [00:47:50] Speaker A: you can [00:47:50] Speaker B: think of. There's so much there. [00:47:52] Speaker A: And then there's the whole Japanese anime and manga stream. [00:47:55] Speaker B: Oh yeah, [00:47:56] Speaker A: that gets [00:47:57] Speaker B: crazy big. [00:47:58] Speaker A: It gets so. And they have huge festivals for it in. In Japan. Well, [00:48:05] Speaker B: there's the World Cosplay Summit which we've. We usually. Australia usually sends a few people to and stuff like that. I have a few friends who have competed and I think have come close to winning it and things. So. [00:48:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:48:16] Speaker B: And when we. When I left doing the show when I was part of it, and that was during COVID before COVID took over, we had you could win. I think it was a trip for two to go and compete at Dragon Con, which is in. In America Atlanta. That was a full trip like paid for everything like that. And Dragon Con is one of the biggest conventions in the world for that. And we also did, I think at one point also paid trip to the actual like Japan for the Cosplay summit. The other thing I saw with that was people would spend as much money on the actual costumes, which had to be documented when you're in those big ones. Like everything had to be documented. So you can't buy a costume to the point where they actually spent more money on the actual entry to get in and doing that costume than they would have been just to pay for a ticket to go. [00:49:07] Speaker A: Yeah, crazy, but amazing. You know, that maker space is huge and it's thriving. Adam Savage, who used to be the host of Mythbusters, he's now on Tested.com he, he fell deep into cosplay and he's made some of the most impressive costumes because he, he's just a natural born maker and has access. You know, he's got this phenomenal workshop and. And paper call in for help. Yeah, it's his whole thing. And you know, he, he. I remember when he did the Chewbacca. Chewbacca Wookie from Star Wars. He did. He cosplayed as Chewbacca. He's done a whole bunch of amazing character. He often and it's called Adam Incognito. And he'll go and do the con without anyone realizing that It's Adam Savage. [00:49:48] Speaker B: Well, it's always the game. And that's become a thing for celebrities as well. [00:49:52] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Because Ryan Reynolds did one a couple of months ago. He went [00:49:55] Speaker B: there. The Canadian tuxedo one. [00:49:58] Speaker A: Yeah. The denim Deadpool. Yeah. Yeah. Lots to learn. [00:50:01] Speaker B: I could go [00:50:02] Speaker A: on that [00:50:02] Speaker B: forever. Like that. Literally that and a lot of stuff was my life for 16 years. And I like, even I did stuff with Grant Imahara as well, who was part of Mythbusters, who sadly passed away. [00:50:13] Speaker A: He did, [00:50:14] Speaker B: yeah. And things like that. So, yeah. [00:50:18] Speaker A: Yep. Incredible. [00:50:19] Speaker B: Next photo. [00:50:21] Speaker A: Let me just quickly try to stay up with the comments from Flick. My 20 year old took himself to Comic Con in Texas last year and he loved. That's amazing. My wife is a dressmaker and makes some outfits with cosplayers. Always interesting stuff. And then John Latimer, who is a convention fiend himself, tweak. If you ever go to a convention, let me know. My staff are all cosplayers and always more than happy for photos. And Chris Nielsen's back in the chat. We have a con here in New Zealand called Armageddon. Yeah, that's a big one. [00:50:55] Speaker B: Yep. [00:50:55] Speaker A: I've been going for decades, but always been too afraid to ask people to let me. Let me shoot them. Maybe rephrase that question. Can I shoot you? Can I. Can I take you? Just treat it like a portrait. [00:51:08] Speaker B: Maybe. I've got an idea. I don't know if everybody. Anybody's done this. It might be the dopiest idea ever. Make a little placard for yourself. Or make a T shirt which says, I have anxiety. I'm very shy. Can I take your photo or something? You know, get the wording right. [00:51:24] Speaker A: Yep, yep, absolutely. And John says he most likely would have met Bruce at some point at Supernova. I've been vending at most conventions for 12 years now. [00:51:36] Speaker B: I. You probably have then. Probably very much so. I am very bad with faces and names. But yes, I. I ran around for a long time in that space. [00:51:47] Speaker A: Although I will say this for you, Bruce, when. When I. When Sasha and I flew down to Lonnie, we went. We came down, obviously a few months. What was it like mid year? It was like June or something. We came down, [00:51:56] Speaker B: I can't remember, [00:51:57] Speaker A: visit family and have a little break. And you and I got out and hunted light for a little while. It felt like everyone we walked past, you knew and you knew their story. And I remember later talking to Sash going, yeah. Bruce took me on a tour of Launceston and introduced me to 500 people that somehow knew him. Yeah, it was really, it was fascinating. It was really funny. [00:52:20] Speaker B: I think the thing is it is a little bit like that sometimes it depends on the day, but also it was the spaces we walked through a little bit that, that, [00:52:30] Speaker A: that makes it a bit easier. Yeah. [00:52:33] Speaker B: Near work and stuff like that. But also actually giving a shit about people, like actually being interested in what people, who people are and what they do is usually kind of a way to end up knowing lots of people. Not saying if you have that and you don't talk to people like due to whatever reason you're missing out or whatever. It's just, I, I, I, I'm one of those people that flip from introvert to extrovert a lot and I don't like extroverting but I know because the way I've had to learn to do my job that I just need to talk to people and it's just become one of those things. And like I try to teach my daughter and that it's even just, you know, smiling at random people can make a big difference to how people will talk to you even if you don't or even if you don't talk to them because you know, it costs you nothing and it's easy to do. [00:53:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And, and a smile can be a great disarmor, you know, especially for street photographers. You know, I'm constantly smiling at folks before, during, after I take a shot, you know, I'm just here hunting light. Take no offense. Doesn't always work but you know, for the most part it does. How did we get down that rabbit hole? That was huge. [00:53:49] Speaker B: Anyway, [00:53:49] Speaker A: let's have a look at some more images. That was for. That's Richard's fault, wasn't it? [00:53:53] Speaker B: Yep, [00:53:53] Speaker A: that was Richard. It was Richard's fault. Yeah. Good on you Richard. Half hour segment dedicated to you. And just to follow up, Richard has said I'm making T shirts for my wife and I next year for Halloween. This year I wore my world's okayest photographer T shirt. Nice. Nice. [00:54:11] Speaker B: Cool. [00:54:11] Speaker A: Does your family do Halloween at all, Bruce? [00:54:14] Speaker B: No, my daughter. We had a, we had an impromptu all of 20 minute session of dragging my cat into the studio. One of my cats who actually will come in here and she tried to put wings on him and stuff and he had, he didn't want a bar of it. [00:54:29] Speaker A: No, no, [00:54:30] Speaker B: she wanted to dress up the cat for some photos because she's been the reason why. I've got the, the old 5D Mark III. Here is [00:54:37] Speaker A: that [00:54:37] Speaker B: she's been using it to try and take photos when. [00:54:40] Speaker A: Nice. [00:54:41] Speaker B: And there's the lucky strap because [00:54:45] Speaker A: it's [00:54:45] Speaker B: a bit heavy for her. She puts that on her wrist because I. She doesn't like having the big one on her. Yeah, that's fair. [00:54:53] Speaker A: Yeah, very cool. Nice work. Let's look at some more images. [00:54:59] Speaker B: Okay, who's next? Who [00:55:00] Speaker A: we got next? We've got Paul. Paul C. [00:55:03] Speaker B: All right, here we go. [00:55:05] Speaker A: Photos we've got to go through. [00:55:07] Speaker B: Yep. [00:55:07] Speaker A: Here he is, my budding street photographer, Paul C. Hey, guys. Here's one from an early morning walk in Newcastle. Tried to incorporate two well known landmarks in the same image whilst exploring the dynamic range on the new toy. Cheers, Paul. This was shot with the Fujifilm X100 Mark VI at F11, 1/60 of a second. ISO 640. [00:55:31] Speaker B: Cool. I like you doing a bit of a cubric single point on the foreground, but it's actually leading us straight to. What is that? It's like a radio tower or something. Is it. Was it a lighthouse? There might be a really short lighthouse or something. It's something like that. I do like. The thing with this is I reckon a lot of people would crop that top bit off, but I actually really like it because it has the anti bird nesting stuff on there. Yet there's stuff in that. [00:56:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [00:56:05] Speaker B: It's kind of cool. [00:56:06] Speaker A: I think it adds character. [00:56:07] Speaker B: It adds character, but you could totally see people cropping it out to do more of a pano shot. [00:56:12] Speaker A: And I think that's why this stands out better. Because he's done what most people wouldn't do and leave. [00:56:17] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:56:19] Speaker A: And it's a, you know, it's, it's a negative space. There's nothing going on up in there. But even just the, the form of the negative space, those sharp angles add interest to the frame. And yeah, I do love the dynamic range with the, the items in the foreground just receiving enough light [00:56:35] Speaker B: without [00:56:36] Speaker A: blowing out the background sky. Yeah. Well done. [00:56:38] Speaker B: Cool. All right, next. [00:56:40] Speaker A: Yeah, Batter up. We've got the legendary Mr. Dennis Smith. [00:56:47] Speaker B: Who? [00:56:48] Speaker A: Dan, the light guy. [00:56:51] Speaker B: That. Oh, that guy. [00:56:53] Speaker A: Him, him, him. Yeah. [00:56:55] Speaker B: So we're practicing self immolation now, Dan? [00:56:58] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty much. Hi, legends. As I prepare for the portrait workshop in December, which I'll talk about in just a moment, I end up traveling through, trawling through portraits and this one popped up. I was experimenting with an idea around filling myself with light. It ended up becoming. I prefer to do that with chocolate. But each to their own. It Ended up becoming one of the most profound portraits I've ever made. For the longest time, I had an alcohol and drug fueled anger management problem. I described it as having a fire constantly burning in me, barely under control. This week, I celebrate 17 years of sobriety. Congratulations, Dan. That's huge. I'm so proud of you. Really, really proud of you. It has certainly helped quell the fire. This is a single exposure, of course, 10 seconds, f11 on my trusty 5D Mark III. There's that camera again. That was made in 2016. I pop myself with a huge softbox in a dark room, lean down, pick up the light painting tool and wiggle about 40 attempts to feel it. This is such a powerful, especially when you, when you think about the story behind it, you know, it's such a powerful image. Even without that context, it's just stunning. Now, if this sort of work interests you out there, dear viewer, it's great news, especially if you're in Melbourne. Dennis Smith is returning to Melbourne for a limited run of workshops in December. If you want, you can head to. I might actually bring this up. Bruce, have you got that? [00:58:29] Speaker B: Yeah, do it. That link. [00:58:31] Speaker A: Would you want me to do it? [00:58:34] Speaker B: You keep, you keep talking. I'll find it. It's here somewhere. [00:58:39] Speaker A: Myself and Lucinda also, we attended Bruce's light painting workshop. Just my light [00:58:45] Speaker B: painting workshop. Hey, sweet. [00:58:48] Speaker A: What [00:58:48] Speaker B: you said, Bruce. [00:58:50] Speaker A: Oh, sorry, Dennis's. Yeah, yours too. Dennis's light painting workshop. And it was one of the most formative experiences I've had with photography education. It was just phenomenal. And then I can't speak highly enough for how he works with others and encourages and delights and surprises and yeah, it's very, very cool. But so, yeah, so Den's running some workshops. Have you, have we got the dates there? [00:59:17] Speaker B: I just pressed playing the video. It was on the video, was it? Oh, I'll just go back to the beginning. There you go. [00:59:23] Speaker A: Friday [00:59:24] Speaker B: the 4th, Saturday 5th, and Sunday the 6th of December. [00:59:27] Speaker A: There you [00:59:28] Speaker B: go. I'm sorry, I'm being a bit loud because Dennis wanted his editing. [00:59:33] Speaker A: He'll get over it, don't worry. We're talking about him. He'll love this. December 4th, 5th and 6th, these are taking place at Fabric, which is Jason Lau, former podcast guest, an all round amazing guy at Fabric Studio in Box, Hillary. And yeah, I certainly, I certainly recommend, highly recommend that you take a look at this. You know, if you do nothing else from an education perspective this year other than attend one of these workshops, it will elevate your awareness of photography, your understanding of light and just how far you can push this craft of ours. Dennis exemplifies that in a matter of seconds and [01:00:12] Speaker B: takes [01:00:12] Speaker A: you along on that learning journey. So, yeah, [01:00:15] Speaker B: I shot some of that video like that looks. Oh, [01:00:18] Speaker A: that's the VOP one, isn't it? [01:00:19] Speaker B: Yeah, from last. [01:00:20] Speaker A: The Instax. Instax Light painting. [01:00:22] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:00:23] Speaker A: it's Joel. [01:00:24] Speaker B: Cool. [01:00:25] Speaker A: Nice. He [01:00:26] Speaker B: handed me a camera and said, make video. I made video. [01:00:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, very cool. [01:00:32] Speaker B: Cool. I want to go, but I. I think I'm going to be in Melbourne like a week and a half after that, so. Not sure yet. Always badly timed for me. [01:00:43] Speaker A: Yeah. Gosh, Jen, what were you thinking? Not thinking of Brucey. [01:00:49] Speaker B: Anyway, Go, go have fun. It'd be great. [01:00:52] Speaker A: Check it out. Fully supportive workshop. You know, he. He's satisfied when you're satisfied and. And he will certainly give you the tools and the guidance to, to reach that. So I highly recommend [01:01:05] Speaker B: touching that. [01:01:07] Speaker A: No, let's not touch that. Let's move on to John Latimer. Speak of the cosplay devil. [01:01:11] Speaker B: All right, we have 1, 2 and 3. 1, [01:01:14] Speaker A: 2 and 3. Evening, all. Hope is well. Sorry, Greg, about the file names. He keeps forgetting to number the files. Over the past months in my downtime, I've been still slowly doing my miniature painting. This will eventually be an entry into next year's model Expo, but I always let it sit with me for a while until I love it or need to repaint some of it. Can we go to the single image, the final single image, please? [01:01:40] Speaker B: And [01:01:40] Speaker A: then we'll look at behind the Scenes in a sec. This one. The model itself is around 5cm tall. With this, without the stand background is another board game that kind of had a fiery cover. So it's just sitting there in the background. Yeah, it's amazing. Yep. Hope everyone has a great week. I'll be listening. Driving back from Sydney tonight. Thanks again, guys. This was shot with the A7R3, the 24 to 105. A cracking lens at ISO 100F4. [01:02:09] Speaker B: That's cool. [01:02:11] Speaker A: A little bit at all, Brucey. [01:02:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I think you need to go to like F56 or something a little deeper just to get the. Just to get some of it a little bit more in focus. But it's sweet. [01:02:22] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah, it is sweet. [01:02:24] Speaker B: That's all. [01:02:25] Speaker A: Yeah, [01:02:26] Speaker B: just. Just to get the model a little bit more tack sharp through. But it is very cool. Oh, I'm assuming [01:02:34] Speaker A: you're [01:02:34] Speaker B: turning this on as a resin. It's a resin print yeah, Looks like it's a resin print. Sweet. Oh, yeah. There [01:02:43] Speaker A: you go. Set up nice. Thanks for the behind the scenes, John. That. That's cool. [01:02:47] Speaker B: That's very cool. [01:02:48] Speaker A: And Den has said, John, you should bring some to the workshop. Miniature light painting. [01:02:55] Speaker B: Very cool. [01:02:56] Speaker A: That would be fun. That would be very fun. But. Yeah, right. It's great. Nice. [01:03:00] Speaker B: Snap. Snap. [01:03:01] Speaker A: One [01:03:02] Speaker B: more snap. [01:03:03] Speaker A: Wow, you're so pushy. I'm just [01:03:05] Speaker B: trying to keep us on time. [01:03:07] Speaker A: Yeah, whatever. Time's just a construct. Let's have a look at Philip Johnson's work. Two images. [01:03:16] Speaker B: All right. Number one. [01:03:19] Speaker A: G', day, gents. The image this week was captured on the long road trip to befop. Quite often I find myself citing an image driving down the back roads, driving past it, only to do a U turn and driving back to what I saw in this. In this case, the farmer had. Sorry, [01:03:36] Speaker B: Phil Thompson. [01:03:39] Speaker A: Philip Johnson. [01:03:40] Speaker B: Johnson. No, that's. Sorry. [01:03:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Come on. Jesus. I [01:03:43] Speaker B: heard the wrong name. [01:03:45] Speaker A: It [01:03:45] Speaker B: can't help if [01:03:46] Speaker A: you [01:03:46] Speaker B: mispronounce it. [01:03:47] Speaker A: He's got one job. [01:03:48] Speaker B: Thinking like, that wasn't an Australian picture as well. I was like, what? [01:03:55] Speaker A: In this case, the farmer had recently graded the field, exposing layers of color between Oberon and Goulburn, New South Wales. I'm interested in the two images which you prefer, the full image or the crop. These were shot with the Sony A7IV with the Sony 70200 handheld F8.1 1/60 ISO 100/7MLS. Thank you, Philip, as always. [01:04:18] Speaker B: Let's [01:04:18] Speaker A: have a look at the two images. Let us know in the chat, folks. And this time I'm sure that we have the correct photos. Let us know whether you prefer the wide Pano version [01:04:29] Speaker B: or [01:04:30] Speaker A: whether you prefer the [01:04:32] Speaker B: more [01:04:32] Speaker A: standard ratio. Where are you leaning, Bruce, with the photo? [01:04:41] Speaker B: I'm gonna go, well, I think this grass is kind of cool. I think it works better without it. I think it's way stronger having this, like, definitive line here without. Because everything else is sharp. Like even these. Even though it's not a line, it's sharp. Whereas, [01:05:00] Speaker A: yeah, [01:05:01] Speaker B: this, this is just a bit messy. So it's [01:05:05] Speaker A: a bit distracting, isn't it? [01:05:06] Speaker B: It's a bit distracting where this just purely gives you the trees and. And the vista. [01:05:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:05:13] Speaker B: I vote Pano. [01:05:14] Speaker A: Yep. And I think that is the consensus in the chat here. Go with the crop. So the pano for Les. Oh, let's voted twice. Paul Sutton went with a crop. Felicity. Standard ratio for me. Rule breaker. Jeff goes with the pano. David Skinner, he loves the Pano as well. And the man himself, Philip Johnson, he's leaning towards the crop as well. Paul. Wide pano. Love the color contrast from Phil Thompson's. The wide pano is a bit better. Sorry. Story. Bit better story. Sorry. [01:06:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:06:02] Speaker A: And Henry Higgins loves the pano too. [01:06:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:06:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Everyone's going for the. Oh, no, Ms. Ames. Like the standard. Yeah, I. [01:06:17] Speaker B: I [01:06:17] Speaker A: think that I see them both and I think they're both amazing. They're really. Well, it's a. It's a well kind of balanced frame, but I [01:06:25] Speaker B: don't think this is balanced as well. I think this is too heavy. Maybe if it was cropped a little bit more, [01:06:31] Speaker A: maybe [01:06:31] Speaker B: keep some of the grass. I don't know. [01:06:33] Speaker A: I [01:06:33] Speaker B: think this is much better. [01:06:34] Speaker A: Yeah, that feels really, really punchy. And like you said, the definitive line that the dirt creates versus the grass. Yeah, that's amazing. [01:06:45] Speaker B: Cool. [01:06:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Incredible. Thanks for sending them both in, Philip. That's. You got us all thinking. You got us all questioning our. What we see and how we want to see it. But either way, you need to print that image before it's too late. Just do it. Hit print now. Print all. Whatever it takes. But thank you again. [01:07:07] Speaker B: I think we need to do, even though your master of ceremonies, the big. The big announcement stuff here. [01:07:16] Speaker A: The big announcement stuff. All right, let me cover off some of the big announcement stuff and I can find it. Gosh, it's a. There's a lot of pages here, Bruce. Okay, thank you. Yes. For highlighting that. So, folks, as you know, the sponsor of today's podcast and every podcast on the Camera Life podcast is Lucky Straps. Justin founded Lucky Straps little over a decade ago, probably closer to 12 years now. And one of the most popular sales opportunities that the brand enjoys and gets the best response from is the family and friends sale. And yet again, 2026, we have a family and friends sale coming up very, very soon over at the Lucky Straps site. So if you're in the market for a new Lucky Straps leather camera strap or perhaps a belt, or maybe you want some of our. Some of our merch. You know, maybe you want a Lucky Strap T shirt or a hoodie camera. Life stuff will be on there very soon, but head over to Lucky Straps now. There's a landing page, which I think we might put the link in the chat. [01:08:18] Speaker B: Yeah. Is it in our notes? [01:08:22] Speaker A: It's down the bottom under landing page [01:08:25] Speaker B: if I scroll too far. [01:08:26] Speaker A: So if you go to Lucky Straps.com forward/family sale, you can register for. You can register for early access and here's what the deal entails. So the offer is the more you add to your cart, the more you save. During the family and friends sale when it's live, one item will get you a 15% discount. That's the same as using Code Greg. Still a great deal. 15% off. You're welcome. If you buy two items, that discount for family and friends jumps to 25% off everything in the cart. If you add three or more items, you will receive 35% off. We're also offering free shipping for anyone that adds two or more items to their order. And it works across the entire range, including Valorant. But personalization on leather products such as your straps or if you choose to put your name on your belt because you're not a big boy, personalization is charged at the usual price. So that will, that will come up as at the standard price, but the products themselves will be discounted. The family sale is only for our email list with a code. [01:09:35] Speaker B: Look at that. [01:09:37] Speaker A: Oh, look at the T shirts. Look at that. Actually, I got some of those Valer gloves when I was in Bright. They're really. [01:09:42] Speaker B: I'm. I'm going to do a quick off detour. I got some gloves from, from Justin for the remote medicine stuff I was doing because I wasn't sure if I was going to end up in crazy extreme space with snow and stuff. But he gave me like the big gloves. Not. I'm not sure which ones they were. I think. I'm not sure which ones they are. They weren't the mids though. But he actually gave me the pro liner as well. These, these are freaking awesome. They're perfect for just like, like slightly cold weather. But they also have a fingertip on them. You can sort of see it there. [01:10:21] Speaker A: They're touch sensitive. Yes. I can use them. So you can [01:10:23] Speaker B: use your screens, your phone or everything else. I. Personal recommendation. These are awesome. [01:10:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:10:32] Speaker B: So, [01:10:33] Speaker A: yeah. [01:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:34] Speaker A: Now Gareth Davis has just pointed out. We'll get back to the sale details in just a moment. But he has pointed out that most of our gloves are out of stock. And that is very true. And we knew that before we even went to befop. The reason being is that the folks at Valorant in the process of releasing or developing and releasing a whole new line of products. And so at the moment they don't have stock to send us for us to sell in Australia on their behalf. So stay tuned for that. I'm sure when we do get more of the valet stock in, I mean, obviously here at the moment it's winter but we're not always traveling into into summer. Sorry here at the moment it's it heading into summer. But even if you're traveling into a winter destination, having those gloves is a is a great aid. But stay tuned. I'm sure there'll be information that comes out once Once more of the valor at stock is in getting back to the sale. So the sale's not on just yet. The sale will kick off on the 7th of November. So Saturday coming you can sign up via the. Yep, go to there. You can sign up there, join the mailing list because that's the way that you get this family and friends discount is to be on the Lucky Straps mailing list. So you can do that here. You will receive a teaser email on the on around the 12th of November and then the family and friends component of the sale kicks off on Monday 16th November at 8am so just to remind everybody, one item is 15% off, two items is 25% off and three or more items is 35% off. Look, we all know photographers in our life and maybe you already own a Lucky Strap leather camera strap and that's cool and we love you for it. Thank you. But maybe you want to get one for a friend or a loved one or maybe you want to grab a couple of T shirts. This is a great opportunity to stock up on gifts for people or gifts for yourself. So head to Lucky straps go to Luckystraps.com familysale and remember that the more you add, the more you save. This is the best deal that we will offer all year round. [01:12:37] Speaker B: I wonder now this is just me wondering out loud if people will buy a strap to replace for like a bag strap, not for a camera. Like if you've got a sling or something where you don't like the. You can remove the air strap and put this on. [01:12:54] Speaker A: Yeah, [01:12:54] Speaker B: that could be something you could consider as well. Maybe [01:12:57] Speaker A: potentially. Justin has, has a, has a folder of all the wacky things that people have done, both good and bad. Sort of bad. No, not that so bad. I'm sure people have, you know, quality leather straps. You know, they're a thing. [01:13:13] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:13:13] Speaker A: not kink shaming anyone but. And I think someone turned one into a dog leash like a collar and a dog leash because they like the look and the feel of it. Yeah, that's pretty cool. But no, at the end of the day these are intended and tested as camera straps. [01:13:29] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:13:29] Speaker A: fair [01:13:30] Speaker B: enough. [01:13:30] Speaker A: As Bruce Bruce said at the top of the show, they feature the quick Release system that leaves no dongles on your camera should you want to take your strap off. [01:13:39] Speaker B: I can show that on this camera. So you can just put it. Sorry, I [01:13:49] Speaker A: meant [01:13:50] Speaker B: like 1.8. [01:13:52] Speaker A: Oh, there. [01:13:52] Speaker B: You just put your, your own mug up. [01:13:54] Speaker A: Sorry. [01:13:55] Speaker B: And yeah, you just, just unclip that and it just pulls out. [01:13:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:13:59] Speaker B: Admittedly it doesn't work very well for Sony because Sony has little taggy things, but everybody else that has these good lugs. Excellent. [01:14:07] Speaker A: Yep, absolutely. So that's the Lucky Straps family and friends sale. There will also be a Black Friday Cyber Monday sale, but we'll give you more details of that closer to the end of November, close to the sale period itself. But yes, but thank you very much for sitting through that. Very exciting. [01:14:29] Speaker B: Now Justin is happy, but he can continue on other things. [01:14:33] Speaker A: Yep, let's, let's just finish off the last few news headlines and then we'll, we'll get into the woods with, with more images. How's that sound? [01:14:40] Speaker B: Good. [01:14:42] Speaker A: All right. In other Fujifilm news, small news here, but Fujifilm Instax have released the Mini Evo 2 and people are calling it the X100 of the Instax world. The Mini Evo 2 has like a 4 inch touch sensitive screen on the back of it. [01:14:58] Speaker B: It [01:14:58] Speaker A: acts as both a camera and an Instax printer, which means that you have the ability to take shots and just simply store them onto memory on the camera and print out the shots you desire as Instax mini prints. So they're kind of the business card size ones. They're not huge, but they're definitely, definitely great little prints. And you can even print, you know, from your, from your smartphone. You can send prints from your smartphone to the, to this Instax camera and you can just print out those images there. The camera also has a range of. Oh, I got to bring it up. I haven't brought it up on the screen. [01:15:33] Speaker B: Her up. [01:15:35] Speaker A: Yeah, there it is there. It's got a whopping big screen on the back. It has a whole range. Being an Instax, they're really leaning into film looks and degraded image looks, light leak, those sorts of things. So you can actually apply all those kinds. I think there's like 100 different combinations of film effects that you can add to your images before you print them. And yeah, it's a great little camera. It certainly caught my eye. I think it's got quite a big screen. It looks good. It's got some really nice features to it. This is the first kind of Fuji Instax Hybrid digital analog camera. That's excited me in quite some time. Some of the models in the past, I just feel like they were just aiming at a market that wasn't me. And that's fine. That's Fuji's, that's fidget film's game. But this one in itself, yeah, it kind of. Kind of sings to me a bit. So I'm keeping an eye on the price of that [01:16:29] Speaker B: sort of city. In your focal range. 21 mil F2. [01:16:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep, yep. [01:16:36] Speaker B: Yeah. Cool. Oh, it's actual. It's a shortest distance. Focal distance is only 100.1. It's upside down. I can't read it very well. [01:16:52] Speaker A: As for the price, I don't. [01:16:55] Speaker B: Oh, it's [01:16:55] Speaker A: on seat. [01:16:57] Speaker B: Well, this is [01:16:57] Speaker A: America's [01:16:58] Speaker B: B H. [01:16:59] Speaker A: What's that got? 300. [01:17:00] Speaker B: 300? [01:17:01] Speaker A: Yes. That's about 4, 450. [01:17:04] Speaker B: Australia. [01:17:06] Speaker A: Australian, which. Which isn't cheap. But if you're looking for a simple point and shoot, that also acts as a printer and you can print from your smartphone or from the images you take on the camera. Why not? You know, I mean, it's not going to have the greatest image quality, that's for sure. But, you know, it could be a lot of [01:17:22] Speaker B: fun. [01:17:25] Speaker A: He was struggling. My [01:17:26] Speaker B: brain just broke for a second trying to [01:17:29] Speaker A: read that. I didn't feel like helping. In other news, the folks at Viltrox have just announced a new Viltrox AF35 MIL F1.4 prime lens in the Pro range. They're making this for Sony and Nikon Z mount as well. So yet another 35mil 1.4. [01:17:52] Speaker B: Gotta collect them all. [01:17:54] Speaker A: And finally, apparently there was a stock shortage from the folks at Leica for their new Leica Monoman 50 black and white negative film. It's probably the only thing that you can afford to buy at the Leica store at the moment. If you're a film photographer or even if you just want a souvenir, go get yourself. [01:18:13] Speaker B: I was gonna [01:18:14] Speaker A: say [01:18:14] Speaker B: I was gonna have it as a souvenir on the shelf. Yeah, [01:18:17] Speaker A: I [01:18:18] Speaker B: keep the box. [01:18:19] Speaker A: I love the boxes. The boxes are cool. Now, I had a look at the Leica store, Australia. You can only buy this, I think in packs of five or 10. 10. You can't just go in and buy a single roll, of course, [01:18:30] Speaker B: but there's [01:18:31] Speaker A: like, still [01:18:32] Speaker B: takes. [01:18:33] Speaker A: Still takes a small mortgage to buy even just, you know, a roll of film. In a new segment I'm calling the smaller Pancake, almost a pikelet news, because every week there seems to be A new pancake lens on the market. The first images of the new 7 Artisans 71 gram AF10 mil F4 pancake for APS C E mount has been revealed. [01:18:58] Speaker B: That's ridiculous. [01:19:01] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a 10. [01:19:03] Speaker B: Probably quite shoddy. I don't know. [01:19:06] Speaker A: Yeah, look, you know, you're not, you're not buying native glass here, but if you're looking for some fun lightweight. [01:19:12] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:19:13] Speaker A: Relatively cheap lenses that make your camera into something a little more compact rather than carrying around maybe a big zoom or a big bigger prime, like a faster prime. [01:19:22] Speaker B: It say this. [01:19:24] Speaker A: I don't think it's [01:19:26] Speaker B: 690. 669 yen. So whatever that is. [01:19:31] Speaker A: $4 50. [01:19:32] Speaker B: $4 50 [01:19:34] Speaker A: plus shipping. Yeah, it's like 50 [01:19:40] Speaker B: bucks. Six do. You're very close. Oh, there you go. [01:19:45] Speaker A: There you go. [01:19:48] Speaker B: You'll spend more in shipping. [01:19:51] Speaker A: You will. So folks, you can stay tuned in future episodes of the Camera Life podcast random photography show for our new news segment. Smaller pancake, almost pikelet lenses [01:20:04] Speaker B: because [01:20:05] Speaker A: it seems they just. They just keep coming. I love a good pancake lens. Actually. I love a good pancake too. [01:20:10] Speaker B: I have completely. Let's [01:20:11] Speaker A: get back to the images. [01:20:13] Speaker B: Yes. [01:20:13] Speaker A: Where were we? Dennis Smith. We did John Latimer. We had a look at Philip Johnson. We are up to John Hall. [01:20:21] Speaker B: Alrighty, Got it. [01:20:23] Speaker A: Evening all. On our way home from an unnamed northeastern Victoria town a couple of weeks ago, we spent a night in Canberra. While they. While there, we made a quick visit to the war memorial. As we hadn't been for many years. We weren't there to take photos. But the reflections and the varying textures of. I can't say it. Aluminum cowling on the nose of this P51D Mustang caught my eyes and made me pull out the camera. This was shot with a Nikon Z6 Mark III. A 24 to 120 F4s at 68 mil F4, 1/200th of a second. ISO 6400. Cheers, John. I love this shot. [01:21:02] Speaker B: It's cool. [01:21:04] Speaker A: It is very cool. I love the contrast. I love the forms, the texture, the detail. I just think it's such a clever. Well spotted, John. Basically well spotted and well captured and framed. [01:21:22] Speaker B: Love the rivets. [01:21:24] Speaker A: Yeah, [01:21:25] Speaker B: it's cool. [01:21:26] Speaker A: And just the way the light is bouncing off it, you know, it just. Yeah, that is very, very cool. Print it, frame it, put it up. And the chat agrees. Very cool. From Craig Murphy, who we got here, we've got Phil says great shape and excellent in black and black and white. Ms. Ames. Wow. That's very cool. Lots of cool. Lots of cool. Mustang. That's sick. Love the contrast crackers. Well done. Yeah, just keeps coming. [01:22:07] Speaker B: Cool. [01:22:07] Speaker A: Just keep coming. [01:22:09] Speaker B: Alrighty. [01:22:10] Speaker A: All right. Up next is Maya Hall. Mayor. Mayor. [01:22:14] Speaker B: Mayor. [01:22:15] Speaker A: Mayor. Thank you. [01:22:16] Speaker B: I'm gonna go with Maya. [01:22:18] Speaker A: Yep. Maya says hello. Gents, here's tonight's contribution. The color version of last week's black and white shot at 1 250th F4 Tamron 90 mil Macro ISO 125. Oh, no, that's David's one. Hang on. Sorry, wrong image. Sorry, sorry. You're [01:22:34] Speaker B: gonna say [01:22:34] Speaker A: this [01:22:34] Speaker B: isn't not a macro shot here, mate. [01:22:36] Speaker A: It's not a macro. Sorry, Maya, I just got lost. [01:22:39] Speaker B: People are really small. They're [01:22:41] Speaker A: really small. This is [01:22:42] Speaker B: a crazy, insane macro. [01:22:44] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. Anyway, let's. Let's read out the true description. I'm so sorry, Ms. Hall. I had a quick overnight visit to Melbourne during the week. Rude. We didn't have coffee. I hadn't been for over 11 years. I noticed a lot more street photographers than in Sydney. And way too many tourists in the lanes. I got lucky in this one, though. Yeah, you did. Next visit when I go with John. Will book a tour with Greg and it will be a more efficient way to find the best coffee and photographic possibilities. I caught Andrew Chapman's the Green Bus exhibition. It was an excellent collection of photographs and his captions were reflective and insightful. And the photo of the Ford on fire was an absolute gem. Shot with a Nikon at ISO 2200 with a 50mil Nikkor Z 1.8 at f16, 1/100 of a second cropped in. Kindest regards, Maya Hall. I love this shot and I love the splash of color. [01:23:43] Speaker B: You [01:23:43] Speaker A: know, often it's hard to work with bright color, especially high vis stuff. As a street photographer, I can't tell you how much I hate high vision, but sometimes you can make it work for you. And this you've made. There [01:23:54] Speaker B: is a trick to high vis in editing. I may show you one day. [01:23:58] Speaker A: Yeah, you just turn everything black and white, add grain and call it art. [01:24:02] Speaker B: No, [01:24:03] Speaker A: no, no. Well, [01:24:05] Speaker B: you can do that, but there is a way of dealing with high saturated color in a way that looks good normally anyway. This is so cool. Like, you can sit here, like what I'm doing is just going through the little cartoon bits. [01:24:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:22] Speaker B: Original bird mural, Mickey Mouse, I wonder, lie, shoot, video, create, Mario paint up. I want to know the story behind this mural. [01:24:32] Speaker A: Yeah, they're cool, huh? Very cool. Nice work. Halls are on fire. [01:24:39] Speaker B: I am Gordon Ramsay. I am. [01:24:43] Speaker A: Stop it. [01:24:43] Speaker B: Interesting. [01:24:44] Speaker A: Up next, we've got David Skinner. [01:24:48] Speaker B: David Skinner. David S, I'm guessing. [01:24:52] Speaker A: Yep. Hello, gents. This is the macro shot. Here is tonight's contribution. The color version of last week's black and white. [01:25:00] Speaker B: Aha. [01:25:01] Speaker A: 1, 2 50th F4 Tamron 90 mil Macro at ISO 125. Cheers, David. [01:25:08] Speaker B: I like the. I like the color. [01:25:11] Speaker A: Yeah, I do too. [01:25:12] Speaker B: But I do remember the black and white being quite striking. But [01:25:15] Speaker A: it was striking because there was a. There was a real abstract quality to it. And there is with this too. But this gives you more clues as to what it could be. [01:25:27] Speaker B: I think [01:25:28] Speaker A: it's good. [01:25:30] Speaker B: It's kind of weird because usually like the color gives you an extra level of confusion potentially. And in this instance it actually makes it really easy to spot the focus plane, which is right there. [01:25:44] Speaker A: Yeah, okay. Yeah, [01:25:45] Speaker B: I think, I think that is. Whereas I don't remember that standing out as much on the black and [01:25:51] Speaker A: white. [01:25:52] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:25:54] Speaker A: it took us a while to find it. [01:25:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Where's [01:25:58] Speaker A: from memory. [01:25:59] Speaker B: Boom. Yeah, yeah. [01:26:01] Speaker A: Still it's cool. Yeah, I like the. [01:26:04] Speaker B: And this. [01:26:04] Speaker A: And good. And [01:26:05] Speaker B: this is, that's good color. And this is the thing like getting glass that isn't perfect on the out of focus areas or in. That is actually can be a benefit to making like getting that diffraction in the, in the lens and that can make things really cool. Like arty wise with the blurs and things like. No, you don't need to have perfect glasses, what I'm saying, to get some really cool effects. It's actually usually sometimes better to have something that isn't like the most pristine glass. And I don't can't remember what this was shot on, but like you can see here this chromatic aberration and stuff through bits of it, but it actually makes the image. So. [01:26:41] Speaker A: Yeah, [01:26:41] Speaker B: I think that's really cool. [01:26:43] Speaker A: Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it? A friend of mine once said that, you know, photographers are obsessed with the in focus parts of a lens. [01:26:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:51] Speaker A: The sharpness. Whereas cinematographers are obsessed with the out of focus parts of a lens. [01:26:56] Speaker B: 100%. [01:26:57] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Very, very, very much so. [01:27:03] Speaker A: Very cool. Well done, David. Thank you very much. Oh, up next we have the newest member of Lucky straps, Lucinda Goodwin. Two images. [01:27:15] Speaker B: Okay, we'll go to 5047 first. [01:27:20] Speaker A: Oh, I know that T shirt. Hey, gang. Felt mildly attacked in my absence watching the replay of last week's Monday show while I was at Hilary Duff. I'VE learned my lessons. Don't miss the live. I did. I did give her a bit of a ribbing. I did. Because I was at. That's me in that chair with the camera. T shirt. If you're watching Juno's performance. My. One of my kids. Oh, [01:27:45] Speaker B: that's right. [01:27:46] Speaker A: Yeah. This is the concept. We [01:27:47] Speaker B: need the. Previously on. [01:27:50] Speaker A: Yeah, we do. It's like chapter two. And I did give Lucinda a hard time because every time I looked over, she was just standing around doing nothing, you know, drinking beer, shoving pig food in the mouth. [01:28:05] Speaker B: Well, your big noggin was in the way of the stage. [01:28:07] Speaker A: It was. It was a bit. Here's an image from the show at Brunswick Ballroom that Greg showed last week. And some camera. Life in the wild. That's me. Other color. I love that. I love the edit. None of that happened. What are you talking about? I wouldn't lie. [01:28:27] Speaker B: Cool. And, [01:28:31] Speaker A: yeah, this guy was cool. He just sat on the floor with a range of different percussion instruments and he was just getting into it. [01:28:39] Speaker B: That's sweet. [01:28:40] Speaker A: He was living the dream. Barefoot. Sunny's on indoors. [01:28:44] Speaker B: Doesn't even realize he's at a gig. [01:28:46] Speaker A: Probably doesn't. As soon as I had one gin. So you admit to drinking on the job. That. That's shameful. That is shameful. Moving right along, we've got an image in from David Mascaro, our friend. Street photography and street portrait friend from the Bay Area. That's cool. Just another street pork trip taken in the Mission District in San Francisco. Taken with the Nikon F3 and Tri X. [01:29:15] Speaker B: Love it. [01:29:16] Speaker A: Yeah, it's very cool. Great framing, too. Hey. [01:29:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Having the actual street sign behind him just out of focus is really cool. Gives. [01:29:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:29:26] Speaker B: Sense of place and that. [01:29:28] Speaker A: Yeah. And the verticality of the pole with the verticality of his braids. [01:29:33] Speaker B: Yeah. But also, like, it must have been, what, like, close to midday just before. Looking at the shadow under his chin. Like, it's very sharp, hot day. So getting him backlit, yet keeping everything exposed and getting all that texture. It's really good. [01:29:50] Speaker A: Yeah. And as Dennis says. Oh, damn. Just another street portrait. Yeah. Right? This is great. [01:29:57] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:29:57] Speaker A: it is [01:29:57] Speaker B: awesome. There is a bit of an optical illusion here, though. Want me to give it to you? So you got the pole here, right? It's going up, down. It's definitely in the background, but because of the way his shirt is sitting. [01:30:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:30:15] Speaker B: Depending on how you focus, it feels like it goes in front of him. [01:30:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I. I saw that too. [01:30:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:22] Speaker A: He's just like. He's Just pulled his left shoulder back slightly. [01:30:26] Speaker B: Yeah, it's [01:30:27] Speaker A: a full punch. It's kind of [01:30:27] Speaker B: weird, isn't it? It [01:30:29] Speaker A: feels a [01:30:29] Speaker B: bit Escherish. So it goes from. This is in the foreground and it falls into the background. [01:30:34] Speaker A: Yep. [01:30:35] Speaker B: That's cool. Yeah. [01:30:36] Speaker A: Beautiful shot, though. We've only got a couple left, I think. Oh, no, still a few. All right, let's. Let's get to Nev Clark's image. Hey, team Driftwood. Well, kind of. If it's okay for portrait photographers to use light stands and lights, it's okay for landscape photographers to drag a bright branch down into the ocean. You're a shocker, Clark. Yes, this was a stage shot, but I tried to make it look as natural as possible. I just love the way of washing over the small branch. There's nothing. Nothing wrong. I think you meant to say with a bit of creative intent. And yes, I replaced the log where I found it. Okay, well, partially forgiven. Partially misery. Just [01:31:22] Speaker B: missing. It's just missing that bird, you know, up here. [01:31:27] Speaker A: Yeah, poor bird. That. That's the nest. If [01:31:30] Speaker B: you got [01:31:30] Speaker A: to stage it, stage [01:31:31] Speaker B: it properly. Put the bird on there. Come on. [01:31:33] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, Use AI. Put it in later. Misery Beach. The name comes from where the whales used to die because this beach is very close to the old whaling station. This was shot on a like a Q3 28F 3.2 ISO 50 shutter at 1 10th with a Nissi 3 stop filter. [01:31:57] Speaker B: Nice. I'm guessing on a tripod. [01:31:59] Speaker A: I would imagine so, [01:32:01] Speaker B: yeah. [01:32:02] Speaker A: It's a tenth of a second. I could do that. Dennis says that this is perfectly acceptable behavior. So Smith says it, it's okay. Richard Miles says brilliant crackers says easier than moving the ocean to the branch. Well, you just got to be patient. Wait for the tide. Greg [01:32:20] Speaker B: and Guy warning, [01:32:21] Speaker A: knock it. Not rocket science. 28:28 in the chat and eight likes. Tis tisk. Oh, like and subscribe, people or guys like revolving Johnson's there. That is kind of the. The patriarch of the live chat. You've all. You've all come under his watchful gaze. Please like and subscribe. And if you're new here, don't forget to give us a subscribe but tickle the bell icon because that way you'll get notified in your time zone when we are about to go live with our next episode of the Camera Live podcast. And on that note, may I just add very, very quickly that we do this twice a week, Every Monday evening, 7.30pm Australian Eastern Daylight Time. At the moment, we have our random Photography show, which is what you all have the pleasure of watching right now. And then every Thursday morning we have our interview show where we sit down live and chat long form with an amazing photographer from Australia or from somewhere around the world. This week we have photojournalist and commercial photographer Julie Millerwick joining us. And Jim will be joining me in the morning because Justin is still away until mid next week. But generally, Jim, Jim. I can't say Jim properly. Jim will be joining me to have a live chat with Julie. So make sure that you subscribed and tune into that one. [01:33:40] Speaker B: Cool. [01:33:40] Speaker A: A couple of other comments for Neville. No one would ever know Nev, if you hadn't said it out loud. Gorgeous shot. Yeah, I agree. It is lovely and there's beautiful motion in it, both in the sky and in the water. Nice work. [01:33:57] Speaker B: All right, [01:33:57] Speaker A: up next we have the prolific fellow city Johnson [01:34:05] Speaker B: Johnson orchid. [01:34:11] Speaker A: Hello. This is a photo of an orchid species called the flying duck orchid. Oh yeah, I can see it. [01:34:18] Speaker B: This is a bill and the head. The bill and the head and then the wings and the body. [01:34:27] Speaker A: It grows in a small patch across the road and I keep this patch a secret. Only a few botanist naturalist friends have been there with me, sworn to secrecy. Now I just need to clarify something, Flick. When you say naturalist friends, are we talking naturalist photographers or the other sort of naturalists? I mean, I don't know what you guys get to over there in Bendigo, [01:34:47] Speaker B: what goes with the outdoorists? [01:34:49] Speaker A: It does go with the outdoors and the nudists and. And the whole lot, but, you know, each to their own. No judgment, Flick. No judgment. It is not an endangered species, but a species that is hard to find unless you know where it grows. I do this because of the damage nature photographers and orchid enthusiasts can do from over visiting or trampling and kneeling down to get the shot. Oh, sorry. Over visiting the site. Areas near Bendigo have had precious orchid areas damaged by nature photographers trampling and kneeling down to get the shot. I strongly believe in treading gently, observe, admire and getting the shot with minimal disturbance. Well said. Cheers, Flick. [01:35:30] Speaker B: There's a whole thing to be said about a lot of wildlife, nature and other photographers and that like Matt Palmer and that don't put any sort of location like Geotag or anything on their images anymore or if they even did in the past. Some people happened in the past either because we've got a little blue lake here, a little tarn in down at Hobart up Mount Wellington way. I've never been to it, but only turns up like at Certain points a year with a certain amount of rainfall. And when somebody took a photo of it a few years ago and published it, it went viral. And then every man and his dog, because he had to. Had to hike in for it and just flatten the place and it's like, yeah, let's never do that again, please. [01:36:13] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, it's good call. [01:36:15] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:36:17] Speaker A: it's a good call. [01:36:19] Speaker B: All right. That was nice. [01:36:22] Speaker A: This is our last entrant for tonight. I'm sorry if anyone else has sent in images and they haven't. They haven't appeared on Tonight. We've just got two from Phil Thompson. [01:36:31] Speaker B: Me. I didn't say anything. [01:36:34] Speaker A: We've got to have a look at Bruce's stuff before we wrap. Of course. But [01:36:39] Speaker B: Phil Thomas. [01:36:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm sorry if they haven't come through. I think Lisa Leeches came through at the very last minute. Sorry, Lisa, I'm going to park that for next week. But yeah, if anyone's images didn't show up, then please shoot me an email or send the image through to me [email protected] Is it [01:36:58] Speaker B: Gregory? Is it just Greg? [01:37:02] Speaker A: Oh, now you've got me wondering. [01:37:05] Speaker B: It's just made me think. I don't remember writing anything like that. [01:37:10] Speaker A: That's Gregory. Yeah, I knew. [01:37:12] Speaker B: Okay. Just literally because the address book thing, right. And I'm just. And it comes up as Greg Chromie as. As. Because it does the auto. But obviously the emails a bit longer. [01:37:23] Speaker A: No, you had me going there for a second. I was stuck. Let's look at Phil's two images and then we'll look at what Brucie has been working on. Hi, Greg and Justin, AKA Bruce, attested just a couple of shots from my Wanda around Castle Hill in New Zealand on our way between Arthur's Pass and Christchurch last Thursday. The rock formations there are huge and I deliberately shot one of them with people in it to give some idea of scale. There are lots of incredible shapes and angles to shoot there and it is a photography. Photographic paradise, especially with a fine sunny day and the clearer atmosphere and lighting over there in New Zealand. Incredible, isn't it? [01:38:02] Speaker B: These [01:38:03] Speaker A: were [01:38:03] Speaker B: shot. Oh, you keep going. I'll bring it up in a sec. [01:38:07] Speaker A: Okay. These were shot on my Pentax K1 Mark II with a 70 to 200 lens. I mistakenly put that lens on and should have had a shorter 24105 lens in hindsight, but then it was too long a walk back to the car park to swap over, so I may do. You got to make it work. Right? That's what you do. These exposures were 1/500th of a second and 1, 800, both at f16, both at 400 ISO. By the way, Greg, you would be like a pig in mud in Christchurch CBD with all that street photography opportunities over there. Maybe some shots of that in future weeks. Keep up the great work. Cheers, Phil. Thank you so much. Phil. Gorgeous images. [01:38:51] Speaker B: I was going to say, could you imagine a Dennis ball right here? [01:38:57] Speaker A: I could. I see them everywhere now. I come across things even just walking down to the shops and back, like, oh, shit, Dennis should put a ball there. [01:39:04] Speaker B: Or maybe peeking out here somewhere. [01:39:07] Speaker A: Yep. Can we scale? Is that a person in the middle of the frame? [01:39:12] Speaker B: This one. It's [01:39:14] Speaker A: on the edge [01:39:15] Speaker B: there. They're [01:39:16] Speaker A: pointing. Wow. It's huge. Hey. [01:39:19] Speaker B: Yeah, the stairs give you a bit of reference as well. [01:39:22] Speaker A: Yeah, [01:39:27] Speaker B: That's cool. [01:39:27] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. That's lovely. [01:39:30] Speaker B: I feel like somebody's job is to mow this, right? [01:39:34] Speaker A: You think they're mowing it? [01:39:35] Speaker B: I'm pretty sure somebody's got a job to mow this. [01:39:39] Speaker A: Someone's getting out there with a whipper snippet to go around the boulders. [01:39:42] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:39:44] Speaker A: maybe, maybe. Because. Yeah, there's not a lot of over the growth there, is there? [01:39:49] Speaker B: There's definitely a mo line here. Come on. [01:39:51] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Something's going on. [01:39:53] Speaker B: Something's going on. [01:39:55] Speaker A: They've doctored it physically. Dennis is on board. Oh, my God. Yes. Let's go. [01:40:03] Speaker B: Yep. [01:40:04] Speaker A: Phil says monumental photo to the other Phil. Paul says Castle Hill is awesome and feels a bit like the quarry on Easter Island. Now you're just showing off, Smith. Oh, yeah, Phil makes a good point. Maybe it's a sheep mower or a goat mower. They're pretty popular these days. [01:40:25] Speaker B: They do have goats and sheep. They're all sheep, obviously, but I'm into this part of nz. [01:40:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:40:32] Speaker B: Maybe I'll go one day. That's cool. [01:40:35] Speaker A: There you go. And that brings us to the end of viewer your images. But of course, given that we have a special guest in the studio with us today, it might be nice to see what Bruce has been up to, [01:40:47] Speaker B: I think. What [01:40:48] Speaker A: do you want to share with us, Bruce? [01:40:49] Speaker B: I have to stop and reshare. I think [01:40:52] Speaker A: they probably do. [01:40:54] Speaker B: Probably do. I can close that out. Let me do some housekeeping. I can go there. I guess if I hit the share again share screen. I'm just going to go the whole screen because it's a bit easier. So this is my very much neglected Facebook page. For my work or my business, which I don't think I've updated in five or six years. But one of my friends I met through something where I actually started my photography career passed away recently, last week and a bit. And it made me think about, you know, where I started taking photos and that was in roller derby. And Richard Mail, who was in the chat, I don't know if he's still here, has, has seen some of this work in the past. And so I went back to my Facebook page and went looking at all the images because obviously looking for this friend who has passed away and stuff. And a lot of the derby people who celebrated her life went through and republished some of these photos on their, on their things. That's this amazing person here, Lucy. Yeah, so it was one of those things where I. This is where I cut my teeth. This is where I ended up learning how to use off camera flash because I refused to learn how to use a flash before this because I was a cinematographer and I don't need flash because you don't need something that's a fraction of a second in lighting. But also made me realize that, you know, these images I captured, which I haven't done, these are 13 years old. Sort of brought a community together in some respect. [01:42:55] Speaker A: Yeah, [01:42:56] Speaker B: I knew a lot of the people went to Celebration of Life wasn't really a funeral and it made me think like maybe I should go back and look at these again, make a book or something. Just because it was a big part of my life for a while. And it also shows like the evolution like this is before. This is me just learning. If I just, I'm just going to randomly pick up. No, they're not great photos. The colors are all off the shop and stuff. No flash and yeah. So if you don't know about roller derby, it's fast, it's in low light and it's usually in horrible stadiums and I have no. And I had no interest in sport either by the way when I was doing this or still don't generally. But it became a thing where I actually learned to sport fairly well at one point. And then I learned how to use off camera flash and then I also gave me permission to do lots of editing, try different things. And yeah, I look at this now and go, a lot of this is over edited. Like I've. I feel like I'm a lot better. But you can also see the style of me learning where to be in the right spot and everything like that. [01:44:16] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:44:17] Speaker B: You know, really looking at how to Document something. [01:44:23] Speaker A: Well, I think, you know, for your first gig of this style, I think the images are amazing, and you know it. That sort of trial by fire teaches you so much. [01:44:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:44:35] Speaker A: You know, [01:44:36] Speaker B: and there was no. [01:44:37] Speaker A: You're gonna make a lot of mistakes. You're gonna get a lot of things wrong, but you'll learn so much more. [01:44:44] Speaker B: Yeah. And this is. Yeah, so this is where I learned how to shoot a lot of stuff. A lot of it makes me cringe now, but some of them I'm happy with. That's what happens with all of us. With her old work. [01:44:58] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. [01:44:59] Speaker B: And. And one of the. So a slight adjunct to that is one of the. One of the teams which I don't think I've got on here at the minute. Victoria Roller Derby League won the. The world title last month in Sweden. [01:45:15] Speaker A: There you go. [01:45:15] Speaker B: So. So there you go. And there. And I shot them a bunch as well in Melbourne and other places. But, yeah, [01:45:23] Speaker A: there might be something [01:45:24] Speaker B: worth [01:45:25] Speaker A: digging through there and pulling something together, you know, creating a small book, maybe for nothing else, maybe to honor your friend, you know? [01:45:35] Speaker B: Yes. So, [01:45:38] Speaker A: yeah, [01:45:39] Speaker B: Lucy, the only other thing I was going to show, get out of the soapy stuff, is I made a new image today because I finally, finally offloaded the photos from the festival that shall not be named. [01:45:51] Speaker A: Yep. [01:45:52] Speaker B: Only almost a month late. And I didn't look at them beyond like they're offloaded. But I did grab, like, one of the first images I did at Michael Marlborough's workshop, which I was helping at. But he does stuff with mirrors. And you shoot through mirrors, and it's like prisms. It makes kaleidoscope sort of portraits, which is really cool. So I took one of the shots I shot through his system and made this. Now I'll show you what the original is. And I figured this would be a fun exercise. So that's out of camera with a little bit of highlight and shadow tweak, and then we can build it up. I think this is. So there's the original image. It's been straightened for this line here. I've just replicated that so it's sharp, duplicated on each side. Then I've done a version of it which is a bit smaller, using it blending. So you can see here's a bit of blending, and it's all divided, so that gives us this white. So if you look in here, you start getting more of her in different spots, uneven. And then what I do after that, the order of operations is basically I do a flatten. Do a Black and white. Then I threw color into it and just move it out and I made some pop art. [01:47:31] Speaker A: You did. That's so interesting. [01:47:36] Speaker B: Take it as you will. [01:47:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I just. Yeah, I love that creative experimentation and play that you have that you. You just. You push it into areas that most of us would feel too scared to think about, let alone try. It [01:47:53] Speaker B: doesn't matter. It's just an image. It's only. [01:47:55] Speaker A: No, I know that. I get that. But, you know, it's that whole thing of, you know, and you see it depending on the skill level and your confidence and all that sort of stuff. You know, some people are reluctant to push their ISO too high. And then you do stuff like this. You know, it's bravery and it. You're rewarded for it because the images are magical, which is really cool. And they're fun, as Felicity says. [01:48:20] Speaker B: And the width of this is 18,378 pixels. [01:48:27] Speaker A: It's quite the file. [01:48:29] Speaker B: It is 1.2 gig. [01:48:32] Speaker A: Yep. Nice. Yeah. [01:48:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:48:36] Speaker A: But, [01:48:36] Speaker B: you know, sometimes you just gotta play. And I can't claim that I made this image in the original respect. Like I say in the workshops, somebody else set it up and I. And [01:48:46] Speaker A: yeah, [01:48:47] Speaker B: and I just took the photo. But I figured, like, what would I do with something like this? Because I wouldn't use the original in my folio because it's not my original work, per se. [01:49:01] Speaker A: Yeah. Yep. No, that's good. It's ethically right. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. [01:49:08] Speaker B: Dennis. Dennis said, need a new laptop. Yes, I need one of those, like 256 gig or 1 terabyte RAM laptops. Yes, [01:49:16] Speaker A: the $24,000. [01:49:17] Speaker B: Send me. You could just order one for me. You don't even need to use a PayPal link or anything. Get my bank details. You could just send me one. [01:49:24] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I mean, the cash is better because then you can, you know, you can claim it on tax and you can depreciate it and. But if someone gifts you one, I mean that's. You're not going to look that. Look the other way. Not a [01:49:34] Speaker B: politician. So I don't have to declare it, so. [01:49:36] Speaker A: No, you don't. No one has about it. It's just a free laptop. Like, God, everyone's got one, you know. Oh, and one thing I did notice about the new Macs is that they finally relit the Apple icon. [01:49:50] Speaker B: Yes, they did. [01:49:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:49:52] Speaker B: And it's [01:49:52] Speaker A: separate. I remember [01:49:56] Speaker B: well because the original ones, which used to light up, all they did is they carved a hole in the back of the chassis. I can't say that word. And then. And it just light backwards because the, you had the edge lighting on the screen and it'll just flood, flood it and then it'll go out the back oled. You can't do that because all of them are individual emissive pixel systems behind it and it doesn't light backwards. So they've actually had to put a light in the actual screen [01:50:24] Speaker A: to do that. [01:50:27] Speaker B: So it's not, it's not like, oh, just now, like we'll just cut a co. Cut a hole. No, [01:50:31] Speaker A: they [01:50:31] Speaker B: actually have to engineer it. [01:50:33] Speaker A: It's interesting. I, I never understood why they got rid of it because it used to always be this thing, you know, and I, I was using, I've been using Apple for gosh since I started at Optus as a, in my corporate life. And that was like, I was like 25, you know. So it's like, you know, getting close to 30 years ago now that I've been using Apple computer system for personal use and obviously now for my photography. And they used to always light up. It used to be a really cool little thing. It's silly. [01:51:07] Speaker B: It [01:51:07] Speaker A: was [01:51:08] Speaker B: silly. It was. But also I think with the redesign of that. But actually one of the problems with, with that light up back Apple is if you're in a bright lit environment, you could actually. It'd throw more light through it if you had backlit coming through it. [01:51:23] Speaker A: I saw that a few [01:51:24] Speaker B: times. I could actually see the logo [01:51:26] Speaker A: on the [01:51:27] Speaker B: screen. Screen. [01:51:28] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's funny, funny, funny, funny things. But I mean. So Bruce, tell us what, what have you got? Coming up next, what's, what's on your dance card? [01:51:42] Speaker B: Oh, I do have one other thing, don't I? Thanks for reminding me about that. Do I still have it here? No, I do not. Judging next week, the Birth Photographer of the Year Awards. That's I think on year five for me. And it is exactly what you think it is. It's seeing a lot of stuff on screen. It's actually, it's, it's an international competition. Lassie Barrett runs it out of Adelaide. She's developed a whole new judging software system background for this year, which is going to be amazing. And it's. Yeah, the judges are photographers for all around the world who work in this space. I personally don't, but she likes bringing, well, a few guys in, to be honest, but also people who have had a documentary background in that as well. I got brought in when they were doing. They did a video category like five [01:52:39] Speaker A: years ago. Okay. [01:52:40] Speaker B: Or whatever it was became a bit hard logistically to run it so with that category. But I stayed on as because I've obviously judged photography a lot. So I've been doing that for a while and there's a bunch of people who are doing it from around the world and there's a bunch of guys here as well who are great documentary photographers who can judge well. So it's an interesting space to. To work in. Yeah. What else? Just got my usual cinematography and work stuff running around a little bit. May have a trip to Melbourne next month maybe I haven't got that confirmed. Probably the last one for the year and yeah, just trying to keep on top of things. It's been pretty difficult. [01:53:35] Speaker A: Yeah. A lot going on. I'm in much the same boat. I haven't had any images to share this week. Sorry folks, I've been a little bit busy. A little bit of a post B flop slump I found myself in. I was having a good chat with Lucinda this morning and for those of you who don't know, I. Lucinda is actually mentoring me in some aspects of my business which is proving to be a huge help and especially around the use of social media and stuff like that. I'm. I'm not great with it but Lucinda's been chunking it down for me and helping me deliver some new content which I'm really happy with. So we had a good chat and yeah, just been in a bit of a. Little bit of a. Just a small funk, you know, nothing like I experienced in the past, just a bit flat and so I'm trying to reinvigorate what I'm doing. I've got a couple of things going on. I'm writing an article about BFOP for Beef Up Australia that they'll publish somewhere. So that's well on the way. I'm doing a camera club talk at the Melbourne Camera Club this coming Thursday evening talking about the importance of local neighborhood photography and how that can be great for you in terms of building your skill and your confidence. But also if you've got some mobility or health challenges and you can't get out as much as you used to. So we're going to cover off that. But yeah, but other than that, Justin's away. He'll be away until mid next week. So Jim is joining me on Thursday morning as we interview Julie Millerwick and then the following Monday evening. Next Monday evening, Joel Elston's going to join me in the co host hot seat as we. My man crush. Your man crush. Yeah. I've got a bit of crush on him too. I think everyone has. He's pretty delightful. Bit of a dream boat. You know, it's the beard. It's always the beard. I look in the mirror, I see it, I get it. You know, I look at you now. [01:55:30] Speaker B: Jesus. [01:55:31] Speaker A: Questioning my life choices. But yeah, always plenty to do. And so a couple of quick recaps, reminders for folks listening and watching along. Thank you so much for watching the Camera Life podcast random photography show with us tonight. We will be back on Thursday morning at 9am Australian Eastern Daylight Time with Julie Millerwick. Don't forget the upcoming family and friends sale so head to Lucky Straps and It is at Lucky Straps.com forward/ Where have I put my link? [01:56:03] Speaker B: Family, family [01:56:07] Speaker A: sale. [01:56:07] Speaker B: So [01:56:08] Speaker A: family sale. Sorry folks, head to that, check it out, register for that. You'll get email notification when the sale's about to go go live. You'll get a teaser and then you'll also get notified along the way. And don't forget the more you, the more you add to cart, the greater the discount you'll receive. Coming up to Christmas, it's a good time to stock up on gifts for those that are important, the creatives that are important in your life. But on that note, Bruce, thank you so much for hanging out tonight and joining me in the co host hot seat. Always a pleasure to have. Yeah, thanks man. It's always great to have you on the show and really great that some of the topics we were talking about tonight, especially around some of the camera stuff that's been launched is you know, it's in line with your alley right up it. Some would say [01:56:53] Speaker B: so. Yeah, [01:56:55] Speaker A: yeah. But yeah, thank you. We look forward to to hearing from you again soon. I'm sure you'll be around in the coming weeks at some stage back on the show. Great to have a chat maybe. For those of you watching and listening along, thank you so much for your time tonight. Always a great pleasure. Be sure to send through your images the camera [email protected] and [01:57:22] Speaker B: 4 5pm [01:57:24] Speaker A: before 5pm preferably because I gotta have dinner and you know I got stuff to do. I can't sit here all night waiting for photos as much as I love them. Yeah, try get them in earlier to me but no stress if you can't. We can always just you know flow them over to the next week. But, but yeah, I think, I think we'll say our farewells. I don't have any outro music because I can't remember how to do it? [01:57:47] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't have all the controls, so. [01:57:49] Speaker A: No, I'm just the talent. I'm not the technician, Bruce. I'm just the talent. Clearly, you know, I've very well defined role here. People appreciate it. But thank you to everybody for watching. Let us know in the chat what you thought of tonight's episode. And yeah, be safe everybody. And we will see you on Thursday. All right, take care. Thanks, Bruce. Bye, everybody.

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