EP131 Canon R6iii and RF 45mm f1.2 Launch Party

[00:00:12] Speaker A: Snapping frames chasing light shadows dance day to night lens sharp, soul in sight the camera whispers hold it tight Click, click moments freeze time captured in the breeze the camera light, the flash ignite. [00:00:42] Speaker B: Well, good afternoon everybody and welcome back to the Camera Life podcast. We bring you a live catch up today to talk about the EOS, the Canon EOS R6 Mark III launch. There's also a new lens coming, Justin. [00:00:57] Speaker A: There is and I think that's going to be the more interesting part of today's launch. I think we'll see. [00:01:03] Speaker B: Okay, so you don't think that the, the canon, the, the R6 III in itself is enough to whip up a frenzy, get a bit frothy? [00:01:12] Speaker A: I think it'll be a great camera. I think we already kind of know roughly what it's going to be and I don't think it's going to be anything groundbreaking. Whereas a, an f 1.2 lens at under a thousand Australian dollars on a native mount. So not a third party lens, not a Viltrox something. I reckon that's pretty, pretty cool. Very cool. So I actually think. And that might usher in a new wave of f 1.2 lenses from other camera brands at cheaper prices in this new category. [00:01:47] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I mean, if they can, if they can pull it off for under a thousand bucks for a 1.2, you know, which is doable. Every. Everything is possible. It does, it does open the door for other brands to go, oh, crap, yes, you know, Canon, Canon are doing this now. What are we going to do? Because, you know, for people, folks like yourself and our good friend Lucinda, you know, native, you've only got native options, haven't you? [00:02:17] Speaker A: Well, that's right. As it is, Canon only have native options. So maybe this is a bit of a Hail Mary if you're Canon to be like, hey, we may have not let Tamron and Sigma and Viltrox and stuff make lenses for our mount, but look, here's something that none of them have done anyway. Like they haven't done. None of the brands have done this. [00:02:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:37] Speaker A: Is my Internet sketchy? Do I look okay? [00:02:39] Speaker B: You're a bit choppy in your frame rate. [00:02:40] Speaker A: I feel chubby. [00:02:42] Speaker B: You are a bit choppy. That's all right. It's, it's, you know, it's after, it's after lunchtime in Bendigo. People have finally gotten up and about. [00:02:50] Speaker A: No, I think it, Damn it says we're uploading a local recording. That's frustrating. Anyway, we'll figure it out. You've done it and now I've done it. That's what slows it down every time. [00:03:01] Speaker B: Where was I? Tamron. Speaking of Tamaron, we had a cracker of a catch up this morning. Conversation and interview with. With a Tamron ambassador, Alex Kearns. I apologize. Once again. I said CERNs. I had it wrong. Cairns. [00:03:16] Speaker A: It was a great show. I'm very excited about my future pet photography business. Oh, so am I. [00:03:22] Speaker B: Can't wait till you drive up Cromwell Road in your. With your funky trailer. [00:03:26] Speaker A: I'm not taking that thing through Melbourne traffic. No, yeah, but I've been researching trailers. I'm. I'm excited. Lucinda's in the chat. She says it's like we never left. That's right. [00:03:37] Speaker B: It is. It is. Yeah. I went out for lunch. I went to the market, had lunch, came back, played a little Nintendo Switch. Might have had a little nap on the couch. But you're right, Lucinda, it doesn't feel like we've left. [00:03:51] Speaker A: Nope. We are still here. So good to see Lucinda. Glenn's here. Good to see Glenn. Tamron. Ambassador. Paul. What, again? That's right. Paul Canon Cannon. We're here. Tony's here. Oh, thanks, Tony. 2.99. The SIM is built. Great. [00:04:08] Speaker B: Tony, send me some photos, mate. [00:04:11] Speaker A: Oh, you should see his computer. It's got every color of light there is. Oh, no. Yelena's texting me. That means. Oh, no, it's all good. Well, I guess we can't have that. So, Yelena, we were looking up. We were looking up names for a pet photography business that had a mobile trailer, and she came up with the best name. But. Hang on. But she's googled it, and I think it's already taken. No. Ready? Come on. [00:04:40] Speaker B: Come on, Cannon. You can do it. Come on, Cannon. [00:04:42] Speaker A: Come on. Wagon Wheels. But it's already taken. [00:04:48] Speaker B: Oh, I was like. [00:04:51] Speaker A: That's actually a very clever name. [00:04:52] Speaker B: Wagon. [00:04:54] Speaker A: No, I wouldn't. I mean that. I. What'd you say? Wagon. [00:04:59] Speaker B: Wagon. [00:05:01] Speaker A: Wagon. Oh, the wagon. Wagon. [00:05:04] Speaker B: Yeah. W a G O N. Sounds too. [00:05:06] Speaker A: Close to the shagging wagon. [00:05:09] Speaker B: Well, I mean, you could rent it out at night to people. By day, it's a pet photography van. By night, it's something else. [00:05:16] Speaker A: If anyone comes up with a great mobile pet photography business name for a pet photography in a mobile studio, I will give you. I'll give you money. I don't know how much money. Depends how good the name is. Somewhere between $1 and $1,000. Dogs on the run? Probably not. This is a good. This is a good try. Wagon. Wag. Off. That's not bad. [00:05:43] Speaker B: That's not bad. [00:05:45] Speaker A: What does this say? Hang on. Greg. Between then and now, I just bought an XE5. I blame you. Did you really buy an XE5? [00:05:52] Speaker B: I did. I told him. [00:05:54] Speaker A: A Sony person. Yeah, but what's happening? [00:05:56] Speaker B: Small and actually creative with a soul. [00:05:59] Speaker A: Oh, please don't please me. [00:06:02] Speaker B: You know it's true. You don't have a Sony. There's a good reason. [00:06:05] Speaker A: That's right. [00:06:06] Speaker B: I don't have a soul. [00:06:08] Speaker A: Digi Frog, good to see you. What's up? You keeping an eye on this launch? Six mark two, three. Whatever we're up to. And at the moment, Canon R3. Yeah. Paul, who is the 45 aimed at? That is a great question. I think it's aimed at. [00:06:29] Speaker B: What was that? [00:06:31] Speaker A: What? This. I'm trying. I think it's aimed. Aimed at the new RF 45mm 1.2. That's as yet unreleased, but we're pretty sure it's coming. Is aimed at people that have dreamt about having a 1.2 prime lens, but don't want to drop 3 to 4000 on Canon's 50 mil. 1.2. [00:06:56] Speaker B: I was just looking at those. [00:06:58] Speaker A: And so canon have the 1.4 VCM50, which makes this one really interesting because this is. If this is true, if the rumors are true, but we're pretty confident this will be half the price of those again. And instead of 1.4. 1.2. But obviously it's going to sacrifice optical quality. It has to. There is. They're not going to make this 1.2. And as sharp as the L series primes and a quarter of the price or half the price. They just won't do it. It's not gonna happen. So it is going to have optical compromises. It's probably gonna have corrections. It's probably gonna have chromatic aberration. It's not gonna focus as fast. [00:07:33] Speaker B: Wow, Justin. [00:07:35] Speaker A: But I still think it's. It's great. Like, why not have some less optically perfect lenses but at great prices that have character? If it has character, people are going to love it. [00:07:50] Speaker B: But optic perfection is surely. That's often in the eye of the beholder. No, I know this. [00:07:56] Speaker A: No, it's measurable. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. So let's. When I say optic perfection, I'm talking really sharp all the way through the range, edge to edge, wide open, less. Like, no chromatic aberration or less aberrations. That sort of stuff. Like less issues in everything. Basically. Great micro contrast all of that sort of stuff is kind of known as, I guess scientifically optical perfection. But then some people just love a great looking image and I think I'm hoping that's what this lens will provide is a great looking image. [00:08:34] Speaker B: Do you think if it was, if it was a, like a really seriously great 1.2, even though it's a 45, that if it was actually like, you know, that optically perfect option that would probably launch with something like an R5, like a more of a flagship release? [00:08:55] Speaker A: Well, I just don't think they would. I think if they did, it would be bigger, heavier and four times the price. I just don't think they can do it. We've got. If they brought out a 50mil one or say a 45mil 1.2 that was that good. It would just destroy the sales of the 50 mil 1.2. Yeah, I just. And it's. I don't think it's physically possible. You could definitely shave some weight off that 50 mil 1.2. But this thing, they're talking about it being 346 grams. [00:09:26] Speaker B: Like what is the 1.2 way. [00:09:29] Speaker A: Sorry, the 51 2, 900. [00:09:32] Speaker B: So it's nearly a kilo. [00:09:33] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:09:36] Speaker B: And it's in Australia. It's nearly four grand. [00:09:39] Speaker A: That's right. You can probably get it for like three, three, three four. On. On. Yeah. On a deal. But that's still a big difference in price. Again, we're talking about a lens that hasn't been released yet. We're just guessing. [00:09:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Based on what we've been told. Neither of us assign an NDA. As far as each other knows. You have certain tells when we're, when we're hiding something. And then of course there's the 51.4. Yeah, yeah. [00:10:07] Speaker A: Which is. So I've got that one as well, the vcm. And that's a great lens. It's a great cut down in weight, like half the weight of the 1.2. It's. I think it's as sharp if not potentially sharper, maybe not quite as beautiful in terms of bokeh. How do you pronounce it? Bokeh. I call it bouquet, like a bouquet of flowers. [00:10:32] Speaker B: Carmen Wong, he went to like a Leica thing years ago and he said this, this guy in Germany is calling it boke. He just called it boke. I've never heard it called boke. [00:10:42] Speaker A: No, me neither. [00:10:43] Speaker B: That's weird. Europeans. [00:10:46] Speaker A: Okay, let's check in the comments just before all this starts. I think the, the official Release starts in 19 minutes. I'm keeping an eye on Canon's live stream. Even though my live stream. I can't believe I'm so choppy. Very frustrated. And what are we seeing here? Paul Henderson says squash dog photography. That can't call it that. [00:11:09] Speaker B: No, you can't do that. That's not what's wrong with you, Paul. [00:11:13] Speaker A: Glenn Lavender says the mobile portrait studio. Get it? Portrait studio. I don't mind that now. Glenn Lavender. Yes. Has board an XE5 Sony on one side and a camera with a soul on the other side. [00:11:31] Speaker B: Told you. [00:11:32] Speaker A: Wow. [00:11:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:33] Speaker A: Greg Carrick. [00:11:34] Speaker B: I've been wording up Glenn on the XC5. [00:11:36] Speaker A: Oh yeah. Why am I watching a Canon show? Well, because we're already talking more about Fuji than Canon despite the fact that this is a Canon release show. [00:11:43] Speaker B: I hear Greg. It's going to be fine. There will be balance, don't worry. [00:11:46] Speaker A: This is interesting. So the 45mm 1.2 probably work well on a crop sensor. It might be great for crop sensors and that would be a big twist and I. It would be that if this was an RFS lens that would make a lot more sense. If it was a crop sensor specific lens. To have a 1.2 at 45 mil would make a ton of sense. But they wouldn't be releasing it alongside a full frame camera. I just don't think they would do that. I think they would release this alongside the future upcoming R7 Mark II and they would have held. Yeah, they would have held it off for that or I mean that could be the curveball. Are we about to see the R7 Mark II? Probably not. [00:12:22] Speaker B: So what happens if you put a full frame, a full frame RF mount lens onto an RF crop camera? [00:12:30] Speaker A: A full frame lens on a crop camera? Yeah, like it works fine. It's just cropped and obviously it doesn't. [00:12:39] Speaker B: It doesn't change anything. [00:12:43] Speaker A: It's, it's. You're just seeing the center of that, of that lenses it. So. So if you shoot on my R5 Mark II full frame lens in crop mode, that's exactly what it would be like. Yeah, it's exactly what it would be like. I think that does work out to like 20 something megapixels. It would be like using a 20 megapixel crop sensor camera with that lens. Exactly the same thing. [00:13:07] Speaker B: Cool. So very cool. [00:13:11] Speaker A: Yeah, it'll be interesting. When it comes to the R6 mark three, I'm pretty keen on that camera. It's going to have the C50 sensor which is 32 megapixel which means it's going to have. I think that's the new. That's the new normal you reckon for full frame sensors? That's going to be the new normal. That's the new sweet spot. The new mid range. It was 24, now it's going to be 33. [00:13:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I reckon it will be. [00:13:37] Speaker A: We so now that. Because I think, unless I'm wrong, Sony's the only one sitting at that 33 with their a 7 4. [00:13:47] Speaker B: Yep. [00:13:48] Speaker A: Which is probably one of their best selling cameras. Almost definitely their best selling camera. Now canon's gonna have a 32. Like are we gonna see Nikon introduce the 32? Is it gonna be just that? That's the, the new. There's gonna be the higher res bodies which we'll probably all see ending up at 60 at some point instead of 45. Yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen. [00:14:13] Speaker B: Yeah, it is interesting to see and you know we've seen other brands like Fujifilm use the try to keep the one sensor running throughout a whole range of cameras. You know, like they've pretty much dropped the 50 megapixel gfx sensor. They're just sticking to 100 now. Regardless of which GFX you get, it's the same sensor and it looks like they do the same with their X series stuff. You know, like you're looking at what am I running now? A 40 megapixel sensor. And that's going to be in every camera moving forward. Is that their new norm? You know, it's hard to tell. [00:14:44] Speaker A: Yeah, it is hard to tell. [00:14:49] Speaker B: And so tell us Justin, where does the R6 Mark II currently sit in? You know, who is it for? Where does it sit in the range of the Canon R mirrorless cameras? [00:15:01] Speaker A: It's the working person's camera. It is the camera that you could do all professional work with from sports to portraits to weddings. It's not the perfect camera for sports. An R1 or an R3 would be better. It's not the perfect camera for portraits. An R5 mark 2 might be better, higher res, etc. Same for landscape, same for everything. But it can do it all and do it all really well and at a cheaper price than any of the other alternatives. So it's a pretty big jump up from the R8, which is a full frame camera, to the R6 Mark 3. The R8's like single card slot, smaller, lighter body, less controls, like less buttons that you can program, that sort of stuff. And then you jump up into this R6 and it essentially feels the same as an R5 Mark II. But it doesn't have the top like LCD panel thing. [00:16:04] Speaker B: Yep. [00:16:05] Speaker A: For your settings it's got a mode dial instead and otherwise it, otherwise it's sort of. It's very similar and weather sealed and robust. Two card slots, CF Express and well, the old one had two sd. So we're thinking this new one will have CF Express and sd. I think it should. It'd be better but we don't know for sure. So that's basically where it sits. [00:16:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:33] Speaker A: Head to head competitor with the A7 4 and what will soon be the A7 5. It's weird. What does it compete with? With Nikon. Like kind of the Z6 Mark III but maybe a little bit more advanced, especially in terms of autofocus. [00:16:57] Speaker B: How close is, how close is Nikon to Canon's autofocus performance? Like we, we used to bang on for days about Sony back in the day when they first launched Mirrorless as being the leaders in autofocus performance. Where does Nikon sit in relation to Canon now? [00:17:15] Speaker A: Like if you compare the Z9 to the R1. Very close. Yeah, like very close. I think most people still. Actually someone put an article about this the other day. I don't know if it was Petapixel or F Stoppers or somebody. Someone did like a head to head. No, it was, it was Jan Wagoner. Actually it wasn't either of those guys was some. One of them wrote one of those places wrote an article about his video. It was either him. It was one of the bird guys. [00:17:43] Speaker B: I don't know what you're talking about. [00:17:45] Speaker A: One of the bird photography guys on YouTube that do awesome videos. And he basically did like an autofocus shootout mainly for birding. But birding is a pretty good test of how well how they perform capture effectively, isn't it? And he did a good summary. It was funny because I remember reading the article. The article title was full clickbait was like Autofocus head to head tested. Only one camera brand can be trusted when it comes to top level auto focus performance. Is it your brand basically? And I was like yeah, solid clickbait. And then they were basically just referencing. I'm sure it was Jan's video. And then his video was very much not that. He was basically like hey, these are all really good. Canon's probably the best all around. Nikon was better at. What was it? Nikon. One of them was better at like discerning from busy backgrounds. And then one of Them was just ultimate speed. I think maybe that was Sony, but it wasn't as good at locking on or something like that. So it was like though everybody said they were all, they're all great and they just have their strengths and weaknesses. And then I think he gave the R1 the best all rounder. And yeah, I think that's, that's basically where it's at. I would agree from my little experience among amongst those sort of three brands is that they're all close enough that it doesn't matter. You know, when, when Jim and I are off shooting that CF Moto event, like we're both getting a similar amount of keepers and stuff like that. Yeah, you get to know your system and what it can do and what it can't do. [00:19:24] Speaker B: So it's very true. [00:19:25] Speaker A: Pretty close. Put it this way there. It's not like comparing Fuji to Canon. [00:19:31] Speaker B: Oh, oh no, but it's true. It is true. You know, I. And even, even sticking within a brand, it's, you know, the, the like just say, you know, if you're comparing one Canon against another, it also depends on what you're shooting, what your skill level is, you know, how you set up your camera, what sort of focus mode you prefer. All those sorts of things play a big part in it as well. [00:19:55] Speaker A: That's right. [00:19:58] Speaker B: So what are your, what are your predictions based on what you've seen? The R6 Mark III is only hopefully 20 minutes away, 10 minutes away maybe from being announced. What do you reckon? [00:20:11] Speaker A: Predictions for the camera? Yeah, I think it's going to be very similar to what the specs have put out because they seem quite sensible. The only thing that I've seen getting floated around, which I just can't see happening, is that it's a next generation of autofocus. That's another level of performance above other Canon cameras and I just can't see that happening. I think the best you could hope for with this is close to the R1, potentially better than the R5 Mark II because it's got some sort of newer algorithm in it or something like that. But I can't see any of its computing power being better than the R5 Mark II. But yeah, I think it would be same, same Pro like, same processor, all that sort of stuff. Maybe they've got some sort of new algorithm, they've got some sort of new mode or something in there that may or may not get added to the R5 Mark II with firmware. Yeah, but, but I can't see it being like a leap Forward on what is essentially a mid range. Like the. Everybody's camera, the working person's camera. [00:21:14] Speaker B: They don't want to sort of. What's that? You know, they don't want to kind of compete with their own product. [00:21:19] Speaker A: No, no. They're not gonna. They're not gonna leap past the R1 in autofocus capabilities on a camera that's going to be a third of the price. It just will. [00:21:28] Speaker B: I do wonder if they'll. They'll include the cropping guide firmware on this one. II. You've got to spend US$120 to get your cropping lines added. That's for vertical shooting, isn't it? [00:21:41] Speaker A: No, it's for. It's. It's very specifically for volume shooting. [00:21:46] Speaker B: Oh, that's right. [00:21:47] Speaker A: Yeah. It's not really for any school shooters. [00:21:49] Speaker B: Sports photography. [00:21:50] Speaker A: Please don't say school shooters on this. [00:21:52] Speaker B: Oh yeah, that came out that way. [00:21:53] Speaker A: Sorry. John Pickett says R6 III will be like the R6 2, a baby R3. It's digic X with no accelerator like the R3. That's what. That's what we've been told. I'd be surprised it could have that accelerator. And it just hasn't peaked out through the rumor marketing stuff yet. I'm not sure. [00:22:16] Speaker B: But I mean the John Pickett. Solid geek out there. Solid. [00:22:24] Speaker A: Love it. [00:22:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:25] Speaker A: Reads the rumor sites. I think the. I don't know. It is. The R6 II is already a baby R3. What will be very interesting is how does the high ISO of the R6 mark 3 perform compared to the R6 mark II and the R3, which are the 24 megapixel cameras that the R3 has great high ISO and the R6 mark II will probably struggle to. To keep up with it. But hopefully it doesn't take the R6 Mark III. What did I say? I don't know. Hopefully it doesn't take too much of a hit. Going up to that 32 megapixel range. It will definitely be nice to have 32 megapixels. I could definitely see it becoming my everyday camera. Like use it for everything. Ditch the R3 potentially. Which would be sad because I do really like that body style. But yep, it depends if it's fast enough whether the sensor is fast enough to shoot in electronic shutter all the time. And I don't mean fast like I need 40 frames a second all the time. I rarely go above 15. But fast as in behaves like a mechanical shutter. So the sensor readout speed is fast. Enough to shoot in electronic shutter for a lot of the time and that the just the base ISO image performance is good. That's the other thing that I want to see. [00:23:52] Speaker B: So. So the rumors are that it's got the same sensor. It will have the same sensor as the. What was that one that just came out? [00:24:02] Speaker A: C50. [00:24:03] Speaker B: The C50. The cinema entry level cine camera, wasn't it? [00:24:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Which means it'll have very similar video features but obviously not as high level. They're not. They're not going to put the same video features in a non video specific camera when they just released the C50. But it should have very robust video which the R6 Mark II had good video specs regardless. So it's going to go forward from that. Yeah, they're talking 7k I think. I don't know whether it'll have open gate or not. Yeah, we'll just have to wait and see. [00:24:43] Speaker B: So the Mark 2 had 4k 60, 10 bit internal and 6k prores raw external. [00:24:51] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. Will this have 7k internal? I don't know. I don't know but it doesn't. It's not going to have anywhere near as good a cooling as the C50. That's just the reality of a more hybrid body. So we will see very soon. Four minutes until the live goes up. Let me see what if anything has changed over on anywhere yet. No, no. B and H is up. Looks like Canon rumors is down. [00:25:33] Speaker B: Oh is it? [00:25:34] Speaker A: Looks like it. [00:25:35] Speaker B: Oh no. It's probably getting hammered. [00:25:40] Speaker A: Yeah. What else is happening over here? [00:25:41] Speaker B: No, no, mine's fine. Might just be. [00:25:43] Speaker A: You might just be my Internet. It's struggling. Yeah, really struggling. Anyway, I'm excited. I want to order it. I want to order it in the 45 mil and finally do my big lens test test. Every 5050 mil the 45 mil gets an automatic entry into the 50 mil test. [00:26:10] Speaker B: Close enough? [00:26:10] Speaker A: Yeah, close enough. [00:26:14] Speaker B: Yeah. And a 1.2 like it's. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. [00:26:20] Speaker A: Yeah. Hopefully it's not. Not crappy image quality. It looks like it's going to be the same size as the 35 mil 1.8 which is. Oh okay I've got here somewhere. Let me find it. Looks like it'll be. It'll be this big. [00:26:57] Speaker B: Gosh, that's neat, isn't it? [00:26:59] Speaker A: Quite a small, neat little lens. [00:27:01] Speaker B: Yeah but. [00:27:02] Speaker A: But that's just going by the pictures and the weight it's very similar to this. [00:27:06] Speaker B: Yeah, it's hard to know and it's hard to know if these pictures are even real. [00:27:12] Speaker A: That is also true. The lens might not be real. Could be absolute. [00:27:16] Speaker B: Yeah. It could be nothing. [00:27:18] Speaker A: When I, when I heard it, I was like, nah, there's no way. 45 mil, 1.2. They're not going to, but I think if they can pull it off, it's going to change things. [00:27:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it will for sure. [00:27:34] Speaker A: Yeah. You'll see the other brands start coming out with that sort of stuff like. [00:27:37] Speaker B: Yeah, well, anything that moves, you know, moves the industry forward is good. Yeah. Doesn't matter who makes it. [00:27:43] Speaker A: Well, not only that, but if you can grab it for under a thousand dollars and play around with that beautiful creamy background and yeah, it's not as good as the, the one that's four times the price, but it's close. You don't have to, you know, sell a kidney to buy it especially because sometimes primes for people are, they're not there, they're not their most used lens. It's more of like, I put that on when I want to do something special, but it's not, you know, other than that I've got the 24 to 70 glued to the camera most of the time. So for those people it's perfect. [00:28:17] Speaker B: You don't want, especially for working shooters, like for working photographers, more often than not you've got a 24 to 70 or a 24 to 105 or something in that, that kind of workhorse range, don't you? [00:28:28] Speaker A: Yeah, but for working photographers it is, it's a little bit easier to say I'll, I'll get the good one because I'm going to have it for 10 years and yeah, I guess, you know, when I use it I want it to be amazing. But maybe for those like semi professional or really passionate amateurs that, you know, and they, they can't justify having four grand sitting in the bag that gets pulled out, you know, for a handful of shots every now and then. [00:28:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:55] Speaker A: Jason Depleter what's up? The R6 is Canon's best selling range. So it's probably. So if It's a baby R3 at the 6 Series price point, it's a good deal. Autofocus is already some of the best when you consider what it's up against in that price bracket. Exactly. That's the thing is the R6 2 is already a great camera at that price point in terms of speed, like frames a second, high ISO performance, it does all of that really well at that price point. So if this just even just iteratively levels it up. It's a no brainer if you're ready to update. I don't think it's ever going to be one of those things where you have to run out and update your R6 2 to an R6 3. It's like it's not. It's almost never the case that it's an urgent update. But if you're ready to update. Maybe if you've got an R6 mark one. Maybe if. Well if you're looking to. If you're still holding off on making the jump into mirrorless from a Canon DSLR, this could be the camera to do it. 32 megapixels is going to be perfect for you know if the R5 has been a little bit too much at five grand. If you've been thinking oh yeah, I'm not ready to spend that much but I also don't want 24 megapixels. Yeah, this one could be perfect. [00:30:14] Speaker B: Yeah it's the Goldilocks two price ranges like it's a 3300. It's in that. What do you call it? Pro Prosumer kind of that enthusiast slash. [00:30:24] Speaker A: Which is really interesting. That's what they call it. But gosh it's. It's such a pro camera anyway. Gosh. Oh my God. How do they do that? So Canon have just the live streams just started on schedule. I'm just going to share my screen. Hopefully we don't get dinged for this. Where are we? [00:30:53] Speaker B: Petapixel have just dropped their RF45 1.2 review. Did they announcement? [00:30:58] Speaker A: Yeah because. So the embargoes out. Oh well yeah. You find out what's going on there. I'll. I'll bring this up. Check. Check this out. This is the live stream that Canon have put up. Like couldn't even have a Canon branded. What is that countdown or something? It's the countdown to when the live stream begins. [00:31:18] Speaker B: No, I get that but what's with the. What's. What's going on in the background? [00:31:21] Speaker A: I'm not sure. [00:31:22] Speaker B: I feel like something my kid would have done at school. [00:31:25] Speaker A: Yeah, I. Anyway, whatever. What would we know about live streaming? Nothing sloppy. [00:31:31] Speaker B: So the 1 2, the RF 4512 is in fact a real thing. What is. What do we got? What do we got? [00:31:38] Speaker A: I love this. You don't even have to wait for the announcement. Greg's doing it right now. Yep. [00:31:47] Speaker B: 67 mil filter front. [00:31:50] Speaker A: So it's real. It's a real thing. [00:31:51] Speaker B: It's real. It's a real thing. Yep. [00:31:52] Speaker A: Oh, hang on, I'll bring it up. I'll bring it up. [00:31:54] Speaker B: US$470. So that's about a thousand Australian. [00:32:00] Speaker A: Probably might even be less. It might be. It might be less Australian. [00:32:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:05] Speaker A: All right, so here's a picture. It does look very similar in. Like if I can hold this on a similar angle. [00:32:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:19] Speaker A: Like very similar in size to the 3518. Very similar. Compact, lightweight, affordable, standard prime lens, full frame, mirrorless. Yeah. Wow. [00:32:33] Speaker B: Special aspherical lens too. [00:32:37] Speaker A: I can't believe it's a 1.2-STM. Wow. [00:32:43] Speaker B: It's gonna spherical lens. [00:32:46] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:32:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:50] Speaker A: This is interesting, the RF. This is PetaPixel's words, by the way. So go to them, give them all credit. We're just reading what they've got. The RF 45mm F1.2 is not trying to be a professional lens at a not so pro price, but it does offer photographers a way to achieve super shallow depth of field with a natural perspective as Canon describes it. The lens also has character, which is a euphemism for the fact that it should not be expected to max the resolution of Canon's L series glass. That's what character means. [00:33:21] Speaker B: Not. [00:33:22] Speaker A: Not great. Oh dear. Nor should photographers anticipate a high level of aberration control. That's what I think is the critical thing. If you're shooting into like backlit subjects and stuff like that, you are going to have problems with this that you'll need to try and correct. And even if you correct them, that doesn't you, you often can't correct them all the way. Oh, let's quickly jump to the R6 mark. Yeah, that's three. Because they're doing. They're doing the live stream now as well. And I just saw. Yeah, 7k open gate C log 2. That's awesome. I've been using C log 2 instead of C log 3 since I got the R5 Mark II. It's got lots a wide range of LUTs, CF Express and SD. Dual slots, dust and water resistant as to be expected. Let's go back and have a look at it on here. Hybrid powerhouse with a 32.5 megapixel sensor. [00:34:35] Speaker B: US$2,800. Yeah. [00:34:38] Speaker A: I wonder if any Aussie websites have got the price. 34% more resolution than the R6 Mark II without sacrificing speed. This is again on Petapixel because they're great at the news. So check those guys out. They've actually got like a monthly subscription that gets rid of all These ads that I am going to do, I just haven't got around to it yet. So yeah, if you want to support them, do that. Like its predecessor, the R6 Mark III can capture full resolution raw images with autofocus at up to 40 frames a second using electronic shutter and 12 frames a second with mechanical shutter. Thanks to the new CF Express type B slot. It offers twice the buffer depth of the R6 II. [00:35:19] Speaker B: That's good. [00:35:20] Speaker A: And adds pre continuous shooting like the R1 and R5.2 launched last year. That's awesome. It's gonna be great. It's going to be a great. [00:35:26] Speaker B: Is it a single. Is it single Express card and SD or. [00:35:33] Speaker A: Yeah, one. One of each. One of each, yeah. Whereas Sony because they use the other type of CF Express, it's. It's a hybrid. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:40] Speaker A: So they can use. You can use them both in either. [00:35:44] Speaker B: Digi Direct in Australia have it for 4300 body only. [00:35:48] Speaker A: Oh okay. [00:35:50] Speaker B: That's up there. [00:35:52] Speaker A: It's up there. But yeah, so that's the difference. You can see there the mode dial. Whereas on the R5 mark 2 you get an LCD top screen. Not a big deal other than that the controls are very similar. The position of the. The position of the photo video switch is the same. The on off lock switch is the same. Record buttons the same. Like all that is going to feel the same. Use the newer battery. Same as the R5 I sound coming from. [00:36:32] Speaker B: Is that you or me? [00:36:33] Speaker A: I'm trying to work it out. [00:36:35] Speaker B: What's going on? [00:36:36] Speaker A: What's going on? I don't know. It might be you can it. [00:36:46] Speaker B: No, it's not me. It wouldn't be. Why would it be me? You're the one listening to funky music all the time. The RF45 at Digi Direct, the F 1.2, the new one is currently listed for 700. 699. That's cheap. Yeah. [00:37:05] Speaker A: 699. [00:37:06] Speaker B: 699. [00:37:08] Speaker A: Wow. [00:37:10] Speaker B: That's it. Digi Direct. [00:37:14] Speaker A: That's going to sound like crazy. [00:37:16] Speaker B: It will. [00:37:19] Speaker A: Insane. That is insane. [00:37:24] Speaker B: See if anyone else has got it. No one else has updated their websites? [00:37:32] Speaker A: No. So yeah, definitely 346 grams. Twice as heavy as the 51.8 but. But yeah, much faster. [00:37:44] Speaker B: How many grams was it? Sorry? [00:37:47] Speaker A: 346 sample images. It certainly has that bokeh. Yeah, crazy. I would say a game changer in terms of. In terms of lens design. I think it's going to be super interesting. Jason says 45 mil looks like it's Canon's answer to Nikon ZF14 range. I mean yeah, has anyone done that? I really don't think they have a cheap, relatively cheap 1.2 as a native mount. [00:38:32] Speaker B: Yeah and maybe it's, maybe it's a bit of a shot fired at all the third party people that complaining that they can't get on Canon customers choice like cheaper choice or just options at a price range. [00:38:48] Speaker A: All right, we got some feedback coming in from the chat. John Pickett says good email from ted saying the R6 3 is 4199 Australian dollars. Mitch Naylor. What's up Mitch? Canon EOS R6 Mark III mirrorless camera with RF 24 to 105 F4 lens at Digi is 6149. Greg Carrick but does it do bokeh like a slide projector lens, winky face? It does not but it's close. It's got, it's got character which means chromatic aberrations. But I, I just, I love it. I think it's great. Why not? That's a great option. People will take such fun portraits with it and yeah, it won't be tax sharp maybe at 1.2. And yeah there'll be some fringing and stuff but they'll get that look and it, it'll. They'll know if it. They want to invest in a five time, four to five times more expensive lens to get more of what they're seeing or a better version of what they're seeing. [00:39:52] Speaker B: And what do you think about the price of it? [00:39:53] Speaker A: The 4200 of the R6 mark 3? That's about. I reckon that's probably close to what it come out when it was the R6 Mark 2 at launch. So maybe it's gone up a couple hundred bucks actually can't remember what the R6 Mark II was at launch but it ended up down at like three grand. Three three one or something like that. I don't know what it is at the moment. Let's have a look. [00:40:17] Speaker B: About 33. Well camera house has it for about three 300. [00:40:20] Speaker A: Yeah. But which is, which is still a great camera. [00:40:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:27] Speaker A: For, for a thousand. [00:40:27] Speaker B: It only came out three years ago. Like it's not like it's. We've been hanging out six years for this, you know next iteration of this. [00:40:35] Speaker A: Not like, for the, not like the 5D Mark IV that, that took a lifetime to come around. [00:40:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:42] Speaker A: So yeah, it's very interesting. What else are we seeing for it? Internal raw is it got into on the R6 mark 3? Has it got internal raw. Let me check. [00:40:56] Speaker B: Just checking. [00:40:58] Speaker A: I should go over to the Canon website. Probably quicker. Same features. Many of the same features of the C50 but without the video centric design. R6 Mark III captures oversampled 4k 60p video with 7k over sampling at 4k 30 between the. The 4k 30 will look really, really good. 7k 59.95p raw light recording 4k 120ish open gate 7k C log 2 waveform monitoring. It also includes the focus acceleration deceleration algorithms from canon's EOS Cinema C80 and C400 cameras. That's interesting. [00:41:43] Speaker B: How does that work? [00:41:45] Speaker A: I have no idea. I don't think. I don't know if my R5 Mark II has that. If it has, I haven't ever had to play around with it. I assume it's just like your focus pulling autofocus, pulling speed. Like if it has to travel a distance it'll speed up but then slow down as it gets closer to the subject. I'm guessing, but I actually honestly haven't used it. Greg Carrick does it have a faux film wind lever? No, no. [00:42:18] Speaker B: But I think there's a business in that, Greg. I think we could make them get the machine and they just slide into the hot shoe maybe and it's just like a little fidget thing I think. I think there's something in that. Yep. [00:42:31] Speaker A: Weighs about 30 grams more than the R6 Mark II which is not noticeable. It, it has a full size HDMI port which is. Yeah, that's great. That's a big upgrade. Awesome upgrade for the video guys and for me I use it on my R5 Mark II. I'm using it right now. So I mean I think it's a win. It's exactly, it's basically exactly what we expected based on the rumor sites. I don't think there was any surprises. Nothing I can see. Very interesting. [00:43:07] Speaker B: Now as for the lens, I wonder when that's coming out. Digi Direct don't have a date. But then mind you, they say they have everything in stock and never actually do. [00:43:21] Speaker A: Very interesting. A lot of questions popping up on the Internet. See people asking things like is the R6 Mark 3 good for Astro? Just wait, just wait a second, Wait, wait for someone like Richard Taddy or somebody to do a test with, you know, if anyone answers that question at the moment, if they haven't actually shot Astro with it just lying. [00:43:44] Speaker B: Yep. Lucky levers. Greg Carrick. That's a gold suggestion just on the stock alerts. So the Camera is according to B and H. This is in America, obviously, that it doesn't impact us. But just as a bit of a guide, the R6 Mark III is due at the end of November. Like the 25th, I think I saw. That's only like three weeks away. Yeah, three weeks away. And the 45 1.2 lens is first week of December. So. Yeah. [00:44:15] Speaker A: Paul Sutton says I'm heading to a release party tonight for Canon at Camera Electronic in Perth. Should I waste my money on it? Depends. How much will it cost you to go? I assume you're talking about which should you waste your money on the camera, not the release party. What have you got now? What are you shooting with? Yeah, and why would you want to upgrade? That would be my question. [00:44:38] Speaker B: Yeah, but how much more are you gaining? [00:44:41] Speaker A: I'm going to buy it. I think I'm gonna buy it. I'm gonna do a bit of a shootout between and the R3 and the R5 Mark II. Just see where everything sits. And I'm thinking I might be able to move the R3 on and then possibly do a full spectrum conversion on the R6 Mark III. I'm thinking, wow, that's bold. It is bold. [00:45:09] Speaker B: That's very bold. I'm proud of you. Normally you're such a safe player. [00:45:13] Speaker A: We'll see. I might. I might bail. It might be a bit risky, but we'll see. [00:45:20] Speaker B: The math. [00:45:22] Speaker A: Paul says I shoot micro 4/3 on Panasonic. I honestly would need a really compelling reason to replace all of the lenses I've invested in. Yeah, I wouldn't make a snap decision on that. If you're looking at changing from micro 4/3 to full frame, like, that's a big shift. It's not something I would make at release time. There's no rush. Like. Yeah, just go. Yeah, just go and check it out. Have a think about it. Price up the lenses you would want in the system and then this is the advice we gave the other day. Do that also for Sony and do it for a Nikon. Anyone else that you're interested in probably don't do it for Leica. It'll scare the pants off you. Yeah. But compare the systems and then really have a think about why. Why you would want to shift and what the cost of shifting would be to get all of the lenses that you'd like to start with. Because if you've got a full system now, you might not buy all of the lenses at the start, but you want a few. You want like your core lenses at the Start. [00:46:24] Speaker B: And also do the math on how much you think. If you were looking at moving on your existing OM kit, say for example, do the math on the second hand market. How much are you really going to get for what you've got if that's your plan and what sort of a shortfall will that leave for the new kit, really? Look at the economics of it. Or not. Just do it live once. [00:46:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Go buy a full Leica system, whatever. Yeah, yeah. You know, I was thinking, I was, I was looking, looking at how would I build out a pet photography trailer? And I was like, oh, if I was doing these really nice pet portraits, I'd probably want medium format. And then I was like. And then I was like. And I was like, hang on a minute. You want as much depth of field as possible for pet portraits when you're using flash and stuff. And I was like, medium format would just make that even harder. But I still, part of me still, like, it would be nice to, you know, be doing it and be like, well, these are 100 megapixel files like that. You could print a, you know, bloody giant thing with them and. But customers wouldn't care. But I would enjoy it. [00:47:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:35] Speaker A: But I think it would honestly make more sense to shoot with a crop sensor than a medium format when you're trying to get depth of field with studio lighting. [00:47:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:44] Speaker A: Don't know. It's interesting, it's fun, but I was like, oh, I could get a nice little GFX 100 and you probably only need one standard lens, you know. Yeah, but I won't. But maybe. No, I won't. [00:48:04] Speaker B: So how many shopping carts have you got open right now? How many tabs? [00:48:06] Speaker A: None. [00:48:06] Speaker B: Come on. [00:48:07] Speaker A: None. John Pickett says go 8 by 10 for pet photography. Yeah, well, I don't know. I don't know if that would sit still for long enough. Paul Sutton. Honestly, the update on the lenses, I can really do a great trip, make. Yeah, make great memories. Use what I have to capture that. Exactly. Go on a photography adventure, go on a workshop, go on a couple of workshops, go and find a mentor, you know. Yeah. There's so many cool things you could do with the money to progress your photography as opposed to swapping over all the lenses. That being said, if you want to go for it. [00:48:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:47] Speaker A: What else? I mean, like from here, there's not much else we can find out without literally getting our hands on these things. [00:48:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Or watching some serious YouTube videos, which we're obviously not going to do on here. [00:49:01] Speaker A: But no, I'll be doing that between now and Monday's show to see who's put out their reviews, who actually tested the camera and who's just doing basically an ad for it. Not that it. I honestly think this camera is going to have almost no surprises. This is going to be exactly what it says on the tin. It's going to be a slightly higher resolution version than the previous the R6 Mark II. It's going to have the updates that it said. In terms of it's got CF Express now which is going to be way better. If you were doing video. It's going to be great for fast sports shooters. And honestly the cards are actually cheaper once you start wanting speed and higher, higher file size cards like 512 cards. It works out cheaper to have CF Express. It's way better. So there's that. Yeah, definitely. If you want like a V90SD card that's 256, you'll find an S. You'll. You'll find a CF Express card that's faster and cheaper. [00:50:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:01] Speaker A: In my opinion. And then you can even get super fast CF Express that will be dearer. But SD can't get anywhere near those speeds. [00:50:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:10] Speaker A: So yeah, in my opinion this won't have any surprises. But you know, the reviewers will put it through its paces and then when I finally get my hands on one because I have to buy my gear, they don't send it to me to review. I'll put it through its actual paces and see how it goes for mountain bike photography and anything else I can test it on. Maybe some. I'll do my famous eye autofocus tracking test that I did for the R5 Mark II that is still getting great views on YouTube. [00:50:42] Speaker B: The one with Yelena and the Blossoms. [00:50:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a good test. But I, I expect this thing to perform almost the same as the R5 mark two in terms of autofocus. I'd be very surprised if it didn't. [00:50:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:58] Speaker A: And that little 45 is going to be fun. [00:51:01] Speaker B: Yeah, I think so too. I think there's a lot to love about that. [00:51:06] Speaker A: Yep. Let's see the other brands answer with some cheap 1.2. They're like a gateway drug for people. When you shoot that thing wide open the first time and you're like, whoa. [00:51:23] Speaker B: Let's see. [00:51:23] Speaker A: Has Canon put up any sample images from it? [00:51:27] Speaker B: I'm just looking at camera decision where you can review cameras side by side. So the R63 and the R62. So just from a. [00:51:34] Speaker A: Have stuff wrong though. [00:51:35] Speaker B: But, yeah, I know. [00:51:37] Speaker A: If you haven't, you've ever seen that with Fuji where you're like, yeah, the specs are wrong. Yeah. [00:51:42] Speaker B: This stuff was up before the announcement, so I don't know if they're basing it on rumors. [00:51:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I hate that when you're like, yeah, you're not sure. I know that this spec is wrong, but you're comparing it. [00:51:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:55] Speaker A: Anyway, no big deal. Canon don't seem to have it on their website yet. Could that be right? [00:52:03] Speaker B: And it looks like the viewfinder and the screen are the same. [00:52:07] Speaker A: Yes. Pedapixel have got a few sample images. I don't know if they're their own sample images or if they're from Canon. Let's have a look down here. So this is the RF45. So that's. That's the sort of look that you can get with a 1.2 lens. [00:52:34] Speaker B: Yep. [00:52:36] Speaker A: Swirly. [00:52:37] Speaker B: Swirly whirly background. [00:52:39] Speaker A: That's. And that's a hunt. That's 100% crop. So the difference is I see this. Obviously this is through the Internet. Who knows what's happened to these files? So don't, don't judge it on this. But this is 100% crop. I guarantee that if I. If that was shot on the 50 mil 1.2, the L series, that would be way sharper this section of the image. But, yeah, that being said, I don't think it matters, like, because this image looks the way it should, unless you need that critical sharpness. But you can get this kind of look. So pretty cool. [00:53:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:28] Speaker A: I think it'd be fun. [00:53:33] Speaker B: Fund the lens. [00:53:34] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. [00:53:35] Speaker B: For 700 bucks. Australian. Yeah. [00:53:38] Speaker A: Yeah. Just rock around the great travel. Travel. Yeah. [00:53:43] Speaker B: Yep. [00:53:44] Speaker A: And with. With 32 megapixel, you know, 45 becomes 50 with a crop easily without losing too much resolution. So, you know, if you're worried that it's not normally a 50, but just give you that little bit more space, it's a bit of an odd focal length. I'd love them. I hope they make a 28 mil version of this. Same. Exactly the same body, just as light, but it doesn't even have to be 1.2. That'd be bit tricky. Maybe a 1.4. Yeah. Or like we said the other day, give us some F2s that it's super sharp. [00:54:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:54:20] Speaker A: But lightweight. [00:54:21] Speaker B: Yeah. I think there's a lot to be said for like sharp F2s that are compact, compact, sharp. Mostly what I go for granted, It's a crop F2, but still, I just find that's a bit of a sweet spot. [00:54:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And so if it was at F2 on full frame, compact light, like, you're still going to get some pretty shallow depth of field. You're letting a lot of light in. Yeah, I think it's great. [00:54:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:49] Speaker A: This is the second comment like this. Anthony Stonehouse, Canon's answer to Nikon's cheap F1.4 lenses. I guess so. But they, they one up them with the 1.2. So, yeah, it's going to be interesting. I'm very interested to see is it, is it a great fun lens or is it so bad that it's not worth the price? You know, like, yeah, it's got 1.2, but you might as well buy the 1.8. It's better, you know, that would be sad. [00:55:21] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I mean, that'd be a horrible thing to realize that they've just gone ahead and launched that product anyway, if it is that bad. [00:55:27] Speaker A: Yeah, well, because it's almost like we're just trying to cash in on the 1.2 side of it. [00:55:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:33] Speaker A: But like, if, if it's not as good as the 1.8, the nifty 51.8, which is cheaper and smaller, if it's not as good as it at 1.8, I'll be disappointed. I think. [00:55:47] Speaker B: Yeah, a lot of people would be. [00:55:49] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe that's a bad way to look at it, but. And maybe there'd be a reason why they would say that. [00:55:55] Speaker B: Well, if you were working on a budget and you had the 51.8, but you wanted, you know, a shallower depth of field, you thought, I'll go to this one, you'd be pretty pissed off to discover that it's actually worse. It doesn't meet that standard. [00:56:09] Speaker A: I'd be happy for it to be worse at 12 because that's really pushing those limits of, you know, of what the lens can do. But if you match it at 1.8, put them side by side. Yeah, I'd be, I'd be sad if it's not about the same. Or ideally a bit better would be great, but I don't know, it hasn't been done before, so we'll have to wait and see. [00:56:30] Speaker B: Yeah, it'd be interesting to see. Yeah, very interesting. [00:56:34] Speaker A: What do you guys think in the chat? [00:56:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:36] Speaker A: Anything else? Any comments about this release before we go back to living our life before the next podcast? Our in between life. [00:56:44] Speaker B: I'm just curling up on the chair now. Just a little blankie. [00:56:48] Speaker A: Yeah, we Just sleep until the next camera release on the floor. [00:56:52] Speaker B: I just shed it. [00:56:53] Speaker A: Yep. [00:56:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:55] Speaker A: What do you think? Anything else that we should check out? Anything I've missed on this? [00:57:00] Speaker B: Let us know what your thoughts are. If you're a Canon shooter, where do you think this sits? Where, you know, does it entice you? But potentially as a second body. And what do you think about the 4512? Is that something that, you know, that appeals to you? Is that something that you can see yourself maybe throwing on just as an everyday lens? You know, Let us know. [00:57:23] Speaker A: So what, petapixels official review is out. So they, they, they put the press release thing out, but now they've, they've dropped the review. Review. It was probably out before. I just hadn't refreshed the page. But their two taglines are predictably excellent and what can't it do? And yes, as much as, as much as they're a little bit hypey. I, I think that I would agree, I agree with. Without touching it. It's just it based on the specs, it's, it's exactly that. It's the middle of the road performance camera that will do everything you need it to do. Yeah, the R5 Mark 2 will be better for some things. Yeah, the R1 will be better for sports, but it's going to be, it's going to do it all and do it at a reasonable price and outperform tons of other cameras. Yeah, I think it's, it's the new standard. [00:58:19] Speaker B: And the R6II wasn't a dude. [00:58:21] Speaker A: Not at all. It was the same thing. [00:58:23] Speaker B: It was like they're trying to redeem themselves. [00:58:25] Speaker A: Yeah, no, it was the same thing. It was everybody camera, the working person's camera. Put it in your bag and just enjoy shooting with it. Don't worry about it. But for some people, 24 megapixel was starting to get to the point where they were like, I'd like more, but they didn't want to take that leap. Well, this allows them to take a little bit of a leap while they're still kind of staying in the same price point. They're in the same series, but they're jumping up in megapixels. So Paul Sutton says Global Shutter is the next big thing that will move camera technology. That and AI built in or just smart focusing based on AI. There's that, that new phone thing on Kickstarter. We'll talk. Actually, that'll be the topic of Monday's show will be does AI have a place Inside cameras. And I don't mean AI for focusing algorithms. I'm talking like affecting the image. [00:59:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:21] Speaker A: Like upscaling and anything like that. [00:59:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:24] Speaker A: And then getting to the point where there's that, that Cairo camera or whatever it's called that's got nano banana built into it. So you can basically take a photo and it literally changes the photo. I'm like, what's the point? Why even leave the house? [00:59:37] Speaker B: Why even take the photo? Just type in a text prompt. [00:59:40] Speaker A: Yeah. John Pickett says, makes the R6 Mark II look like a great second body. Should get some good secondhand deals now. It was already an amazing camera. Yeah. Especially if that price stays at around like 3200 or 3300, whatever it is, for the R6. 2. That's going to put second hand ones well under that two and a half mark, maybe two grand or something like. Yeah. Grab one of those and just enjoy. Second body still great. Autofocus is still fast. Everything's still good. Paul says I'm still rolling the dice with a single body and no backup. But then I'm not shooting for money or dealing with customers, so no need to add or replace my R5. Yeah, yeah, that's. [01:00:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:17] Speaker A: If you're not. Yeah. If there's no big deal, you know, if you go on your dream photo trip, if you're going to Antarctica maybe might be worth. [01:00:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:26] Speaker A: You could even buy a second hand body and sell it when you get home. You know, if you were going to be so disappointed that you spent $30,000 on a holiday and you dropped your camera into a freezing ocean, maybe. But other than that. Yeah, I could get away with one body most of the time, but I would just never want to let down a client. [01:00:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:45] Speaker A: If, if we've, you know, we're on a shoot, they've dedicated their time and paid me to be there. I can't, I can't be like, oh, my camera's not working. So. Yeah. But yeah, otherwise I could, I could roll with the R5 Mark II and just do everything with one camera. [01:00:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:01] Speaker A: Doesn't look like Greg's convinced to switch to Canon. No, no, Anthony, I'll never try. [01:01:06] Speaker B: Has not. Has not. [01:01:10] Speaker A: Paul Sutton says the Canon EFS 60mm macro lens was my first non kit lens. Good choice. Macro's fun option. Yeah. Paul, Antarctica. Agree. Yeah, yeah. Antarctica trip, you basically have to price in any gear that you don't have that's required for that trip. You got to price that into the trip. [01:01:28] Speaker B: Yeah. But it makes sense to Have a second body for those sorts of scenarios, doesn't it? Yeah, there's no nowhere to go. Like you, you know, you can't, you. [01:01:37] Speaker A: Can'T be like, I'll run to a camera shop yourself. Yeah. [01:01:40] Speaker B: If. Even if. Even if it's just technical fault, you know, like, even if your main shooter was fine, but you just had some sort of technical issue you couldn't work out on the spot. [01:01:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:50] Speaker B: And all your other intrepid explorers are snapping away and you're standing there scratching your head. No, you need a second body for something like that. [01:01:58] Speaker A: Yep. Yep. [01:02:01] Speaker B: All right. [01:02:01] Speaker A: Before we wrap up, I'm just looking over the rest of this review. [01:02:05] Speaker B: It's hard to stay on top of what's going on. [01:02:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it's all coming out fast. I think you've held this camera before and probably liked it. They say at Petapixel and. Yeah, exactly. Body's almost the same. [01:02:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:17] Speaker A: Keep on moving. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't know, there's not much to it. [01:02:25] Speaker B: Yep. [01:02:26] Speaker A: I'll be interested to see. Yeah. Some night sky pros put it through its paces. I want to see some low light stuff. Really pushed. [01:02:36] Speaker B: Yeah. And I want to see what that lens. Some people shooting portraits and products. [01:02:40] Speaker A: I'm more excited about the lens, about seeing what it. What it can do. Yeah, that's for sure. [01:02:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Because if they do nail it, then you. Like we said earlier, they've opened up the door for cheap, fast, maybe not optically pure, but fun lenses that are affordable for most. [01:03:00] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. R6 Mark II was no slouch concerning autofocus performance, but the R6 Mark III is even better. This is an area of significant strength for Canon. That's their way of saying Canon's better than the other brands, but we can't say that because we really like Sony. But Canon is better. Yeah. Cool. We'll do some more research and I'll get my hands on one as soon as I can, which will probably be. Who knows when. Whenever they come out in stores. Maybe I'll ring Camera House, Croydon or, you know, one of those places and see what I can find. [01:03:43] Speaker B: Well, I mean, like I said, according to this, it's coming out in the States at the end of. In less than three weeks from today. I can't imagine that the release is going to be much different in other regions. [01:03:56] Speaker A: No. [01:03:57] Speaker B: So hopefully it won't be long. There'll be some in stores soon. And if you're keen on this sort of stuff, keep an eye at your local camera store sign up to their newsletter because often stores have touch and try events for new products. Yeah, if you're on the fence or you just want to have a play around, then, you know, go to an event at a store. It's a good way to support your local store and it's also gives you a chance to have a sneak. Sneak peek and a preview. [01:04:19] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Cool. Anything else? [01:04:23] Speaker B: All right. No, I think that's an hour I'm not going to get back in my life. I'm just going to have to come to terms with that, talking about Canon. But I'm glad we did because it has just made me appreciate Fujifilm all the more. [01:04:36] Speaker A: Nice try, nice try. All right, with that we're going to play our awesome song and we'll see you all on Monday night. We do a show on Monday night, 7:30 Australian Eastern Standard Daylight Savings Time, otherwise known as Melbourne time. And that's where we talk about usually when we talk about gear and stuff. We'll probably recap these just a little bit when I've done some more research, but maybe we'll also discuss the topic of AI in cameras. So leave any comments on this show you want us to read out on Monday night. Whether it's about these new Cameras, the new RF45 1.2 lens or AI in cameras. Does it have a place in there? Should they be pushing into it or should they say, no, don't touch that. Let us have our images. Be our images. And if you want to AI them, do it on your own time. And with that, and if. [01:05:26] Speaker B: Sorry, just one little quick thing. If anyone else wants to be convinced to buy Fujifilm X E5, please hit me up. More than happy to. To do the sales work. [01:05:36] Speaker A: No. [01:05:38] Speaker B: So unfair. [01:05:41] Speaker A: Anthony Stonehouse. Look forward to Monday. Have a good weekend. Adjusted. And Greg, thanks. [01:05:45] Speaker B: Thanks. [01:05:45] Speaker A: See you. See you. John Pickett. Yeah, doing God's work. That's right. Snapping frames. Paul, See you Monday. Other Paul. Paul Sutton, everybody. Thanks for joining us. [01:05:58] Speaker B: And thanks, team. [01:06:00] Speaker A: Have a good one. [01:06:01] Speaker B: Yeah, be safe, everyone. [01:06:02] Speaker A: Bye.