Catching Up on Your Images - The Random Photography Show (EP185)

[00:00:04] Speaker A: Sam. [00:00:30] Speaker B: Well, g' day everybody. Welcome back to the Camera Life podcast. This is the random photography show and it is Monday, the 25th of May. And thanks for joining us today. We're coming to you live. Once again, we have a global reach. I'm coming to you live from Melbourne. And the boss is in Bali still, still on holidays. I'm working in the dark and look at him, look at him. Have you got a beer? I bet you've got a beer, haven't you? [00:00:59] Speaker C: It's a remote position. [00:01:00] Speaker A: I don't at all. [00:01:05] Speaker B: What's tonight's beverage? [00:01:09] Speaker C: It's, it's not Bintang because that's what [00:01:12] Speaker A: all the Bali Bogans drink. [00:01:13] Speaker C: It's, it's Bintang crystal, which is, it's [00:01:16] Speaker A: a slightly more elevated experience. [00:01:19] Speaker C: Is this really just. They just put a different tin on it. I think it's the difference between like [00:01:26] Speaker A: Carlton and Calton Dry. [00:01:29] Speaker B: Oh, I see. So no difference really. We're going to have some, some Internet problems tonight, folks, because Justin is in Bali and he's currently struggling with, with clean connections. So we'll persist and we'll see how we go. Anyway, let's get back on track. This is the random photography show, so we want you to stick around tonight. Hopefully we'll get an update from Justin on what he's been up to and I believe he's got some images from one of his recent scuba diving adventures. Jim will be joining us a little bit late. He's just taking care of some business. But more importantly, we've got a bit of catching up to do with the your images section of the Camera Life podcast. We haven't been able to get some images up for a couple of weeks now and we're hoping, fingers crossed, we can catch up tonight. But while we're on the subject, the Camera Live podcast is proudly brought to you by Lucky Straps, which is also us. See, I have a T shirt. He doesn't even have one on. Lucky Straps is the maker of handmade Aussie made leather camera straps. So connect with your craft by heading to Luckystraps.com and if you find something you like and you drop it in the cart, use code Greg at checkout and you'll get a healthy little discount on any of the Lucky Straps branded products. But yeah, head to Lucky Straps today. Justin, are you still with me? You still there? I just get lots of. [00:02:54] Speaker C: I got about three words of that. I've just switched over to my phone Internet. [00:02:59] Speaker A: I'll see if that works any better. [00:03:00] Speaker C: I don't know it's where string and duct tape here, I don't have Starlink. [00:03:05] Speaker A: I'm just at a very, very cheap [00:03:07] Speaker C: but quite nice hotel. [00:03:11] Speaker B: Oh, that's a shame. What happened to the Starlink that you had delivered. [00:03:14] Speaker A: So we're doing our best. [00:03:15] Speaker C: We're doing it. [00:03:16] Speaker B: Okay. [00:03:18] Speaker C: That's at a different. [00:03:19] Speaker A: That's a different place we're in. We're in a different place now. So this is just a. [00:03:24] Speaker C: This, this resort, I think, and it is really quite nice. [00:03:28] Speaker A: But it was. [00:03:29] Speaker C: Yeah, I think for six nights it was $400. [00:03:33] Speaker A: So I can't begrudge them for their WI Fi speed. The WI Fi does work and quite well, but not quite well enough for pretty demanding live streaming. So anyway, we're doing our best. [00:03:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, we'll stick with it. We certainly will. Just before we. We have a chat and get an update from you on what you've been up to and obviously what I've been up to too. Did you want to say hello to some peeps in the chat or do you want me to cover that for you? [00:03:58] Speaker C: I'll do my best. [00:03:59] Speaker A: Let's see if the Internet sticks with me. [00:04:00] Speaker C: Let me know if, if at all you. [00:04:02] Speaker A: I freeze and you can't hear me. Do this. Read out everyone's. [00:04:08] Speaker C: And I can hear anything. Philip Johnson, good evening. [00:04:12] Speaker A: Here first as always. [00:04:13] Speaker C: John Latimer says. Evening all. Always watch live. [00:04:20] Speaker A: The courage to join the chat. Yes, well, make the most of it. Get in there. If my Internet. [00:04:27] Speaker B: Oh, no. [00:04:29] Speaker C: Really? Oh, dear. All right. Oh, my goodness. All right. [00:04:34] Speaker A: Am I back? [00:04:36] Speaker B: You are back. Yeah. We've got you here. You just. You just read out John Latimer. [00:04:43] Speaker C: Yeah, well, chat, please. Help Greg out tonight because I'm in and out. [00:04:49] Speaker A: So you guys need to be the [00:04:50] Speaker C: co hosts until Jim might even get here soon. [00:04:52] Speaker A: Hopefully we'll see how he goes. [00:04:56] Speaker C: Paul's here. He says, g', day, everyone. Still overseas at the moment, so I [00:05:00] Speaker A: have to get back to work. [00:05:01] Speaker C: See you on the replay. [00:05:02] Speaker A: Saving up my images for later. [00:05:05] Speaker B: Yep. [00:05:06] Speaker A: Be safe. [00:05:08] Speaker C: Bruce Moyle, Rick Nelson, David Skinner. Oh, Nick Fletcher. What's up? John Pickett. [00:05:16] Speaker B: G', day, John. [00:05:16] Speaker C: Robert Varner. Good evening, Australia from New Jersey. Good to see you. Tony's here. Of course, it says if only you had started. [00:05:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:32] Speaker C: Greg Carrick is here. Tin type man. [00:05:37] Speaker A: Oh, tint up man's late because he was unpacking a new camera. Oh. [00:05:44] Speaker B: Oh, what is it? Might have to get to the bottom of that. [00:05:49] Speaker A: Great. [00:05:49] Speaker C: Carrick says, oh, it's going to be [00:05:51] Speaker A: one of Those nights is Fujifilm running the Internet? [00:05:54] Speaker C: I thought you liked Fujifilm. [00:05:56] Speaker B: What is up with you tonight? Swinging, Swinging wide already [00:06:02] Speaker C: confirming is here. [00:06:03] Speaker A: Howdy. [00:06:04] Speaker C: Good to see you. Oh, did you. Did you and Jim last week, did you end up playing Greg Carrick's unboxing video? [00:06:13] Speaker B: Yeah, I think we did. [00:06:15] Speaker A: You did. Okay, cool. [00:06:16] Speaker B: Yep. [00:06:17] Speaker A: Yep. [00:06:18] Speaker D: Cool. [00:06:18] Speaker C: I'm sure we're so behind. Actually, do you want to tell me? Because I haven't even seen the last interview with Michael. Like, catch me up. [00:06:28] Speaker A: What have I missed? [00:06:29] Speaker C: I feel. I feel disconnected from the photography world. [00:06:34] Speaker B: Well, what do you want to know? How things have been going. [00:06:39] Speaker C: Yeah. And what did you and Michael talk about? I haven't caught up on that podcast yet. [00:06:43] Speaker B: Oh, okay. So, Michael. So for anyone that hasn't seen the episode yet, last Thursday, we interviewed Michael Jeller Torres, First Nation Australian photographer and filmmaker with a fascinating career and history in both crafts filmmaking and photography. And so these days, he's. He's doing a lot of mixed stuff. He's doing a little bit of everything at the moment, and we got to check out some of his work. He's working on some new explorative forms of photography using LiDAR systems to sort of 3D map a scene rather than just take a photo of it. To actually. Yeah. Create these images with 3D mapping, which is pretty fascinating. Yeah. But no, he was great. It was really great conversation and his work is incredible. And plus, Michael is also. He's got about six different Instagram accounts. It's hard to track him down. [00:07:39] Speaker A: So he. [00:07:39] Speaker B: He loves beach and surf culture. And so where he is in. In Broome in wa, he'll often head down to the beach and. And photograph the. The surfies. Gets a lot of inspiration from folks like Russell Lord, who we've had on the podcast before. Yeah, really, really cool. But he also is the founder of Black Lens, which is a registry here in Australia for First nations indigenous photographers and filmmakers. So it's like a registry where if you're looking for a particular first nations content creator, you can go to the registry, you can see who's. Who's there, and you can connect with them straight from that space. So it just makes it very quick and easy to find first nations photographers, which was a really interesting conversation because he did speak of, you know, I guess a. I'm trying to think of the words. It's not. Not direct racism necessarily, but it's more about underrepresentation of indigenous photographers in the industry. And Michael's trying to make a change with that he's trying to make people stand out from the pack. [00:08:45] Speaker C: So, yeah, he's championing that in. [00:08:49] Speaker A: Within the industry, which is no different to any other. You know, people trying to champion female photographers in certain spaces in sports and things like that with an underrepresented. Like it's. Yeah, it's exactly the same kind of thing, which is great. [00:09:04] Speaker B: Yep. Yep. So that was a really great conversation. And he has since sent through a treasure trove of images for us to. When we. When we create the blog for the Lucky Strap site about his episode. Yeah, images are just absolutely magical. Really great work. So. [00:09:20] Speaker C: Yeah, awesome. [00:09:22] Speaker B: Cool. [00:09:23] Speaker C: I'm looking forward to listening to that one when I've got a minute. [00:09:25] Speaker A: It's been. It's been busy. [00:09:28] Speaker C: Oh, look, more people in the chat. Robin Aldridge. Good evening. From a wet Avalon beach in Sydney. [00:09:34] Speaker B: Hey, Robin. [00:09:37] Speaker C: Tintype bands bought another 4x5 bought online whilst watching this podcast. [00:09:41] Speaker D: I. [00:09:41] Speaker C: That's good multitasking. [00:09:43] Speaker A: If you. [00:09:43] Speaker C: If you can. If you can purchase camera while watching a review podcast. [00:09:46] Speaker A: That's. [00:09:48] Speaker C: That's special. Hog boy. What's up from the U.S. you guys ever mess with the Veres Sony film recipes pack? [00:10:00] Speaker A: I don't even know what that is. [00:10:02] Speaker B: Never heard of. [00:10:02] Speaker A: I'd have to look into it. [00:10:03] Speaker C: I'm not a Sony. [00:10:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not a Sony person. So we'll see if any other Sony shooters know what that is. I assume it's someone's like preset pack or something like that. [00:10:14] Speaker B: I also Sony just dropped a new smartphone too, which I didn't even realize I was still making. Did they? [00:10:20] Speaker C: Yeah, Ex. What's it called? The Xperia? Is that what Sony called Experia? Anyway, look that Dennis Smith says, hey, legends. Michael's interview was so bloody good. [00:10:34] Speaker A: I'm glad you liked it, Dennis. [00:10:38] Speaker C: He says he opened up a bit, which was powerful. That's why we do these. That's why these interviews that we do [00:10:45] Speaker A: on Thursdays are so long and live, so that people get a chance to just relax, open up and talk and [00:10:52] Speaker C: they can go where it wants to go. That's why we like to do it live and no time frames. [00:10:58] Speaker B: Yep. [00:11:01] Speaker C: Who else is here? Rodney Nicholson's here and Grant Fleming is here. [00:11:04] Speaker A: He says, hey, miss you, Justin. [00:11:07] Speaker C: Of course you do. [00:11:09] Speaker A: Forgot about me. [00:11:10] Speaker C: Hey, Grant. And John hall also agrees. Interesting bloke. All right, what are we gonna do? So this. This show, we're going to do a little bit of news. At some point, Jim might join us and at some point I'll talk about [00:11:26] Speaker A: what I've been up to and. And using. I've basically stolen Yelena's birthday present. I've got some photos to show from that and I'm not going to call it a review, but I'll give it [00:11:40] Speaker C: a first impressions and I think I [00:11:44] Speaker A: possibly torture tested it. [00:11:47] Speaker B: Nice. That's not like you. [00:11:48] Speaker C: What else? No, not like me at all. To push something beyond its recommended limits [00:11:55] Speaker A: in the first time I've used it, basically. [00:11:57] Speaker C: Yep. And then. And then obviously we've got a giant backlog of your images. [00:12:02] Speaker A: Images to get through. [00:12:03] Speaker B: Yeah. So in the interest of jumping to your images as quickly as we can, because we do have a few to get through, we've cut down the news segment a little bit tonight. I've picked out a couple of interesting social media posts that I think are worth sharing. Would it be easier if I bring them up? [00:12:19] Speaker C: Justin, have you got a second screen? [00:12:23] Speaker B: I have now. [00:12:24] Speaker C: Oh, if you want. Yeah, give it a go. I can do it otherwise, but I'm [00:12:27] Speaker A: worried it might freeze on mind when I do that. [00:12:29] Speaker C: But we can try it. [00:12:31] Speaker B: My screen is currently balancing on a little trolley. So, you know, everyone hold your breath. [00:12:36] Speaker C: I should take a photo of my setup. My entire setup here is the distance from my. Where my laptop begins on this hotel desk to where my mini travel tripod is precariously sitting on the other end. It's like there's no additional space. [00:12:55] Speaker A: It took up the entire desk to fit it all in. [00:12:58] Speaker B: It's My heart waits while you're in Bali on holiday. Must be terrible. [00:13:04] Speaker C: I understand. [00:13:06] Speaker B: I don't know how many folks saw this out there, but yesterday the Ansel Adams Trust, who manages Ansel Adams images and copyright, and also all of the social media that. That promotes Ansel Adams photography, put out a statement from the Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust. I don't know if anyone else got a chance to see this, but basically what's happened is someone has taken one of his more famous images, which is called Moonrise, and someone has used AI to colorize the image and then put it up for sale in a gallery. [00:13:52] Speaker A: What? [00:13:53] Speaker B: Yeah. This is pretty crazy. So there's a big long statement. I won't. I won't go into a lot of it, but I'll just read the core bits if that's okay with you guys. So the Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust was established by Ansel Adams to steward his artistic and environmental legacies consistent with his own ethos and intentions. The Trust did not authorize, endorse consent to or acquiescence in the AI generated color version of Moonrise Hernandez, N.M. exhibited and offered for sale by this person, Danziga Gallery, at the photography show presented by the AIP ad in April. So someone has, like, created a proper showing of this work and put it up for sale. And it's, you know, it's handsome to work. And. Yeah, it just. It kind of goes against everything that we stand for. And I think this is. This is absolutely disgusting. You know, if everything that they're saying is. Is accurate, which I don't have any reason to discredit it. They even contacted this guy Danziger and requested that he cease immediately because it's a breach of copyright. And apparently they've refused. [00:15:17] Speaker C: What? [00:15:18] Speaker B: They've refused to back down on it. [00:15:20] Speaker C: How could they refuse? [00:15:22] Speaker B: I. I don't. [00:15:24] Speaker C: This is. [00:15:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:25] Speaker A: Why. [00:15:26] Speaker C: Like, that's someone else's. Like, you can't even just sell someone else's image, even if you don't modify it. But modifying it as well, It's. It seems so crazy. [00:15:37] Speaker B: Yeah. But yeah, apparently that despite a formal notice, he's still using it. He's still trying to make money off it, you know, which is a huge breach of. Oh, gosh, so many things. Morals, ethics, apart from law and the legal. The legalities of it all. To take one of the most famous photographers work. One of the famous photographers ever, and to take their work and then alter it and then sell it as. [00:16:11] Speaker C: And that's the thing. It's one thing to do it, obviously, if you do it on your own [00:16:16] Speaker A: computer at home, that's just kind of like playing around. I would. [00:16:19] Speaker C: I mean, you know, if someone just [00:16:20] Speaker A: does that for their own satisfaction, I assume there's. There's not really any issue with that. [00:16:27] Speaker C: Showing that work is something different and then. But then profiting from it is a whole. [00:16:32] Speaker A: Like that. That's where it steps in line. Okay. Now you basically just profiting off what someone else created by using an AI prompt. And so Dennis here has said. Well, his first comment was omfg. [00:16:49] Speaker C: That is so hooks. [00:16:52] Speaker A: I won't read that one out. The gallery is getting slammed, obviously, on social media. Yeah. [00:16:58] Speaker C: And then he said. He goes on to say you can see an image of the image hanging in the gallery, and they've shared the actual prompt they use. [00:17:09] Speaker A: Ah. [00:17:09] Speaker C: Dennis is saying it was 100% generated from a prompt. So it's not. Okay, so you're so. So it's not a. They haven't just put the images in [00:17:20] Speaker A: and said, recolor, like color. This Image. [00:17:23] Speaker C: They've actually said, create this scene. [00:17:26] Speaker A: And now they're claiming that they created it through AI, despite the fact that it's exactly the same as the work. This is really interesting. [00:17:35] Speaker B: Yeah. And Pete Souza, who was. I think Pete was Obama's photographer at the White House for those years. [00:17:44] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:45] Speaker B: Film shooter. Interesting little fact he put. He also. He was one of the first to comment. He said, I've collaborated on this statement. As a friend of the Ansel Adams Publishing Rights Trust. I wholeheartedly agree that this is morally wrong and endangers the rights of all photographers. Please let your views be known. And so that. Yeah, that. That post is getting a lot of. A lot of heat. [00:18:10] Speaker C: And this is where it gets weird because Nick Fletcher says here most copyright laws allow for modification of any image [00:18:17] Speaker A: to create an original work. Still a bit crap. [00:18:20] Speaker C: And. And that's where it does get weird. [00:18:22] Speaker A: It's like, then it needs to become. And this is like music or anything. It's like, where is it? At what point is it substantially modified or whatever? And at what point are you just basically stealing someone else's. Profiting off it? [00:18:34] Speaker C: It's. [00:18:35] Speaker A: It. [00:18:36] Speaker C: You know what's weird is there was a pet. I was going to bring it up [00:18:39] Speaker A: on a future episode when we have more time. There was a Pedapixel article recently about a photographer that shoots. [00:18:45] Speaker C: Did you see the one about the photographer that shoots, like, fruit? Like life scenes on fruit with tiny little people? Did you see that? [00:18:55] Speaker B: No, no, not on fruit. There's a Japanese artist I follow who does these little microscopic, kind of builds of what looks like everyday scene. It's on food. Sometimes it's on, like, stationary and places like that. [00:19:10] Speaker C: Let me see if I can find this because there was an article on. [00:19:15] Speaker A: He's been sort of fighting it recently. Where is it? [00:19:24] Speaker C: Oh, wow, it gets deeper. Dennis says that guy sued my best mate in Scotland. I have a wild story about him. [00:19:31] Speaker A: Okay, Right. [00:19:32] Speaker C: So it. It goes further beyond what's getting told by the sound of it. [00:19:37] Speaker A: This is crazy. Where is it? [00:19:42] Speaker C: I'm sure Petapixel did the article. [00:19:43] Speaker A: I'm going to just type fruit into PETA Pixel and see what comes up [00:19:50] Speaker C: because it reminded me. [00:19:51] Speaker A: Here we go. [00:19:53] Speaker C: It reminded me of. [00:19:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Share Screen. [00:20:01] Speaker C: What we talked about with Dennis. And you know how Dennis said if [00:20:05] Speaker A: someone basically recreates one of my images in the same location with the same ball, even though they've taken the photo, they're actually like, Dennis is the copyright holder of that intellectual property of that artistic Creation. And that's what. What is hard for me to understand. I'm still getting my head around it. [00:20:26] Speaker C: But yeah, this basically these two images [00:20:31] Speaker A: have ended up in court because then the original photographer has said that, you know, the other one basically copied exactly what he created and just changed it very slightly. [00:20:45] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:20:47] Speaker A: And so I think he's got a. [00:20:50] Speaker C: An actual claim on this one. [00:20:52] Speaker A: The judges said. Yep, I can basically see golfer on. What's this? A papaya. A papaya as a sand trap or whatever. [00:21:04] Speaker C: And they're so similar. [00:21:05] Speaker A: The angle is quite similar that you've copied it. [00:21:09] Speaker C: And then this one they had the same claim on. [00:21:14] Speaker A: And see the banana races going down the banana. [00:21:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:20] Speaker C: But then the other photographer did this [00:21:23] Speaker A: one with the races finishing down the banana much closer. A different composition. And the judge deemed that these. This was not a legitimate claim. That it was a significant departure from the original image to be an iteration. [00:21:43] Speaker B: Enough. [00:21:44] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, significant enough. [00:21:46] Speaker A: Obviously. Still very much inspired by. [00:21:47] Speaker C: Because this is where it gets weird because it's like how come it's bikes [00:21:51] Speaker A: on a banana and golfers on a papaya? Like of all the fruits and all the sports, what are the chances that you've picked the same thing as this other photographer that's got books all over the world. But anyway, it was. It was very interesting. [00:22:06] Speaker C: But that, that Ansel Adams one, that's. [00:22:10] Speaker A: That's crazy. [00:22:11] Speaker B: Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Pretty crazy. [00:22:13] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. [00:22:18] Speaker B: So we'll sit tight on that one. We'll see what comes of it. I don't think there's been any other updates since that was posted. Yeah, no, that's. That was the last place. It was only a day ago. So still fresh news. [00:22:36] Speaker C: Well, this is good to hear. Thanks. Hugh at huge ass photo says streaming [00:22:41] Speaker A: quality much better now. I appreciate that, Hugh. [00:22:45] Speaker C: Lucy Goodwin is here, says hi gang from the airport. Where you going? [00:22:50] Speaker B: Where you going? [00:22:52] Speaker C: Who else? We got cats. And Alan Bogan says these AI companies [00:22:56] Speaker A: don't care about creators. [00:22:57] Speaker C: Just look at Meta's track record of [00:22:59] Speaker A: screwing over authors and news outlets. Yeah. [00:23:01] Speaker B: Yep, it is. [00:23:03] Speaker C: It's a dog eat dog world. Bruce Moyle says sounds like someone without a creative bone in his body. [00:23:11] Speaker A: I assume that's about the Ansel Adams one. Yeah, Dennis said the, the fruit thing cost make $10,000 even though he had evidence. Masses of evidence. It was created years before. Gosh, that's not good. [00:23:24] Speaker C: I guess you still got to defend [00:23:26] Speaker A: like even if you've got the evidence, you got to pay to like. [00:23:29] Speaker B: Well, yeah, you still got to be represented. And you've. Yeah. [00:23:32] Speaker A: Lawsuits only benefit the lawyers, regardless of protecting yourself, unfortunately. [00:23:40] Speaker C: Who else? David Skinner says the copier's work is absolute crap in comparison. Yeah. And Grant, Hugh, just surely someone's burner. [00:23:51] Speaker A: Is it your burner, Grant? [00:23:53] Speaker C: That your burner? [00:23:54] Speaker B: Or is it Tony's? Or perhaps that. Well, Nick Fletcher is. It's interesting that Nick is here all of a sudden. We've got some new SUS looking followers. So he might be having a play with that. He might be having a play with that. What else we got? Let's jump to some news. [00:24:11] Speaker C: Okay, [00:24:14] Speaker B: what have we got? I've only got three articles. I've got one lens article, one camera article, and one completely random one. So let's bring up this one. Laura. [00:24:22] Speaker C: Oh, I've got to remove this. [00:24:24] Speaker A: Hang on. [00:24:26] Speaker B: Just waiting for my Internet to catch up. Share the screen. Where are you here? This is coming to pretty much every mount but Lauer. Oh, you can't see it yet. Sorry, folks. Hang on. Add to stage. There we go. Laowa have just dropped 4.45 to 10 mil, 2.8 zoom fisheye. And it's becoming. It's available for. It will be available for Sony, Nikon, Canon, obviously, APS C L mount. [00:24:59] Speaker A: It's. I was gonna. [00:25:00] Speaker C: I was like, I don't want to [00:25:01] Speaker A: put my foot in it here because everyone will laugh at me. But I'm like, that's not full frame, is it? [00:25:04] Speaker C: Because I don't even know what would that even be. There would be like you get everything in the shop. [00:25:09] Speaker A: Get yourself in it. [00:25:11] Speaker B: 4.5 mils. That's. That's pretty tight. Like. That's. It's also Canon EF and micro four thirds. [00:25:21] Speaker C: Okay. [00:25:22] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:25:22] Speaker B: Everything here. [00:25:24] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:25:24] Speaker C: Wow. [00:25:25] Speaker A: Very cool. [00:25:25] Speaker B: I just thought it was a really. 4.5 mil. That's. That's. That's getting pretty. Pretty close to basically photographing yourself, isn't it? [00:25:33] Speaker C: Look at the weight on it. 338 grams, 2.8 and a 10 centimeter minimum focus distance. That's. Yeah, that's crazy. But obviously it's still manual, folks, which. Yeah, yeah. [00:25:48] Speaker B: Yep. [00:25:50] Speaker C: But that's wild. [00:25:52] Speaker B: A lot of fun to be had. So you can either crop circular or diagonal [00:25:59] Speaker D: because. [00:26:00] Speaker B: Yeah, it would be a circle at 4.5. Yeah. [00:26:03] Speaker C: But I wonder, when you zoom in, is it? [00:26:05] Speaker A: Is it? [00:26:07] Speaker D: Is it? [00:26:08] Speaker A: I don't like this. I don't like the vibe they've gone with on the web page for this one, but I'll let them slide. [00:26:17] Speaker C: Such a. [00:26:18] Speaker A: Looks like it looks, it looks like [00:26:21] Speaker C: it's heading towards like. [00:26:23] Speaker A: What's the word? Teemu? [00:26:26] Speaker B: Oh yeah, you know, like that. [00:26:29] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a bit too something but the lens is very cool. [00:26:36] Speaker B: Yeah, a lot of fun. Let me have a look. Anyway, I thought that was worth sharing because it's coming to pretty much every mount and yeah, 10cm minimal focusing distance just allows you. Oh look, here's someone taking some toy photos. [00:26:56] Speaker C: So close. See what I mean? Like it's showing it but it's not that it's got that. Trying to think is it team it? Was it like AliExpress or. [00:27:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it's kind of Amazon. [00:27:09] Speaker C: So close. [00:27:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know, it's weird. Anyway, I thought that was worth having a look at. What else have we got at the moment? We've got Sony. I don't think I covered this one last week but Sony has announced that they're creating the next gen sensors. Let me just bring it up. Sorry everyone. Sony and TSMC announced plans to create next generation image sensors. So the new company that's forming will combine Sony's expertise in image sensor design with TSMC's advanced semiconductor manufacturing technology, further strengthening long term collaboration between the two firms. Sony will hold the majority of stake in this venture and they'll develop, they'll establish development and manufacturing lines at Sony's new semiconductor facility in Koshita City, located in Japan's Kumamoto region. So as we know, Sony make a lot of sensors not just for Sony cameras, but for a lot of cameras now. Yeah, [00:28:21] Speaker A: yeah, yes, tons. [00:28:26] Speaker C: It's interesting too. [00:28:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:27] Speaker C: Because this, this will affect, I assume [00:28:29] Speaker A: if camera, other camera manufacturers keep using Sony sensors, this is going to affect a lot of future cameras and imaging. [00:28:37] Speaker C: But also what's interesting is this is [00:28:39] Speaker A: not long after Leica announced a future partnership or, or the beginning of a partnership with a Chinese sensor. [00:28:50] Speaker C: Didn't we, we covered that. Yeah, not that long ago. Yeah, it's a company and it's just [00:28:55] Speaker A: really interesting that the news was so close together, these announcements of strategic partnerships. But as far as I know, I thought Leica was using Sony sensors up until this point. Like I, I think their 60 megapixel sensor is essentially the same as the Sony A7R5. [00:29:15] Speaker B: Wow. [00:29:17] Speaker A: I thought so. Maybe I'm wrong. [00:29:19] Speaker B: Yeah, [00:29:22] Speaker C: so. So Leica's made a choice to depart and I wonder if the reason they're announced so quick, you know, like does this stuff happen at the same time and they're in negotiations for long term contracts or something. [00:29:34] Speaker A: Like that and Sony's like, we're going this way and like I've decided, no, we're going to go with, I don't know, probably someone that owns a phone company or something like that that wants to do strategic partnerships in the future or who knows. [00:29:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yep. [00:29:49] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:50] Speaker A: Very interesting. [00:29:51] Speaker B: It is interesting and I think, you know, it always, it always raises the question for me is how does Sony as a business contain itself? Even though it's making, you know, sensors for other brands and then often these brands that's, that's one of the biggest ticket items when a brand releases a new camera. It's like we've got the new 60 megapixel center or whatever it may be. You know, how does Sony contain itself as a business? So that, that, that knowledge of the fact that say Fujifilm's about to get a brand new sensor type from, from Sony, how does Sony not use that to their corporate advantage? I mean, I know there's laws around that stuff, but how does that get contained? It's really interesting. [00:30:34] Speaker C: It'd be, it'd be cool to be [00:30:35] Speaker A: a fly on the wall in all these meetings and stuff. [00:30:39] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. [00:30:41] Speaker A: So Bruce saying here the camera company is separate to the, the sensor company. And, and that happens with large, you know, multinational corporations. They're segmented out and they're separate companies. But also they'll still prioritize each other, surely. They do. They're, you know, Sony sensor company would still prioritize Sony cameras. You would think. [00:31:04] Speaker B: What, you would think. Yeah. [00:31:07] Speaker A: Even, even to be separate. [00:31:10] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And not have any of influence on the camera part of Sony, you know. [00:31:18] Speaker C: Yeah. Anyway, interesting [00:31:23] Speaker B: and final bit of news. I thought this was fun. This student. Let's share this tab instead. This is on Petapixel student captures cosmic radiation on film by just simply sending a negative to space. So this kid, he's a student. This is the image that was captured. So basically he put strips of film into these special bags. These are five by four color negatives. This was done back in April. He basically just sent them up inside these, these kind of sealed bags and allowed the cosmic radiation that's just, you know, flying through the, through space to do its thing on the film. And the only reason why there's this bright yellow patch here with what looks like a tear. It is a tear because. Hang on, I need to go back a step. So basically the film, the film packs are attached to a weather balloon that goes up, I think it goes up like a hundred thousand feet. One hundred and twenty one thousand feet attached to a balloon, a weather balloon. And then basically that's kind of the. The bag with the film in it. And then the balloon popped and. And the package fell. And when it landed back on Earth, it actually was pierced by a tree, which is why there was that bright yellow bloom in the top left corner of the. Of the image. [00:32:51] Speaker C: Really? [00:32:52] Speaker B: Yeah. But this is basically what he did. He just sent up this rig to see what it would capture. [00:33:01] Speaker C: Are you saying that someone could have been hit by a falling film? You know, like, if it fell in, did it just land somewhere? Like, just because the balloon probably. It's just like. [00:33:14] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I think it landed like 50 miles away from where it took off or something, because obviously it would drift. But, yeah, I can't. [00:33:27] Speaker C: Such an interesting idea. [00:33:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought it was too. And he was hoping just to get sort of like anything but the results he got. I mean, this. Looking at it through the Internet doesn't do it justice. So if anyone wants to have a look, go to Petapixel. But, yeah, it's really fascinating what. What's actually happened to that strip of film. [00:33:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:33:48] Speaker B: Caused by cosmic radiation from the distant universe. That's crazy. [00:33:53] Speaker C: Yeah. Surely he's gonna. [00:33:55] Speaker A: He's thinking about doing it again. [00:33:56] Speaker C: You'd think you'd be like, all right, [00:33:58] Speaker A: this one got pierced. I need to go again. Need to get one not pierced. [00:34:03] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe. He's doing his third year honors photography at the arts University of Bournemouth in the uk. [00:34:13] Speaker C: Wow. [00:34:14] Speaker A: Very cool idea. [00:34:16] Speaker B: Yeah. That's why I'm here to get you. To get you your lecturer's attention, isn't it? [00:34:20] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty cool. [00:34:23] Speaker B: Anyway, that's it for the news. [00:34:27] Speaker A: Everyone thinks it's cool. Rick Nelson says, cool. [00:34:29] Speaker C: Tint up man says, wow, very cool. And Dennis says, that feels very Bruce Moyle. [00:34:34] Speaker B: It does feel. Bruce, smile. [00:34:37] Speaker C: And Mitcha. 3,346. Good to see you. First time here. I think Sony has better autofocus technology. Well, then who, then who? You know, come at me. We'll see Canon for life. Tint out, man says. I know I operate in a different [00:34:57] Speaker A: world with my large format camera obsession, but for anyone that's interested, Buyee. I don't know what buyee is. [00:35:04] Speaker B: Has an 11 by, like, AliExpress. [00:35:07] Speaker C: Okay. Has an 11x4 Takihara. Sorry, 11 by 14 Takihara with a starting bid of 28, 000 a bite. [00:35:17] Speaker A: Now 46, 000. Like it. Eat your heart out. P.S. i said watching this podcast was expensive. [00:35:27] Speaker B: Yeah. We make no apologies, Jimbo. [00:35:32] Speaker C: I can see you back there. Are you coming on or are you [00:35:34] Speaker A: just gonna chill or what's that? [00:35:36] Speaker B: I don't think we get himself on. [00:35:37] Speaker C: You want to come on or you can't get yourself. Don't you have a lot? [00:35:40] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, I can. I didn't want to interrupt. [00:35:43] Speaker C: Oh. Oh, I couldn't tell. I was waiting for you to be like. Just waiting. [00:35:49] Speaker D: I was just hanging out, just listening. I was like, I wasn't on the podcast. [00:35:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:35:58] Speaker C: Yeah. What have you been doing? What's. What's happening? [00:36:02] Speaker D: Not a lot. Just. Yeah. Living. [00:36:06] Speaker C: Living. Photographing. [00:36:09] Speaker D: Not much lately. Had a little bit. Nothing too exciting, but yeah, a few little jobs here and there. [00:36:16] Speaker B: Felicity approves of your approach and manners, Jim. [00:36:20] Speaker D: Thank you, Felicity. I was sitting there and just waiting. [00:36:23] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I was watching, but it looked like you were doing stuff, so I was like, I think he's. He's working, so I won't bring him in. [00:36:30] Speaker D: Well, I was just. Just looking at the. That stuff because I was like, you guys will have me on eventually. [00:36:37] Speaker A: Yeah, surely. [00:36:38] Speaker D: But I can let myself in, I can let myself out. [00:36:42] Speaker B: Got the power. [00:36:44] Speaker D: Yeah. Kick you guys off? I want. [00:36:48] Speaker B: That's it for the news. Justin, I think it's time we got an update on what you've been up to. And do you have any photographic evidence of what you've been up to? [00:36:58] Speaker A: I do. Let me find it. Yep. [00:37:02] Speaker C: I went scuba diving. I got scared. We went through this a little bit last week. [00:37:07] Speaker A: I can't remember how much I told you guys, though. [00:37:09] Speaker C: But you worked. [00:37:11] Speaker D: All I heard was through your scuba. [00:37:13] Speaker B: Yep. You're scared you might have weed in your suit. A little. [00:37:18] Speaker C: Didn't mention that. [00:37:19] Speaker A: You know. No. [00:37:22] Speaker D: Everyone does that. [00:37:23] Speaker A: Don't let me. [00:37:24] Speaker B: I think you meant to, aren't you? [00:37:28] Speaker C: They told me that the fish would attract the fish. [00:37:30] Speaker A: I don't know if they were just messing. Oh, there was a lot of messing [00:37:37] Speaker C: with me with two guys who were [00:37:39] Speaker A: quite experienced and they. They did a lot of messing with me. [00:37:48] Speaker D: Yeah, I'll just. Gentlemen always. Until you guys. [00:37:56] Speaker C: All right, so let's catch everyone. Been traveling around Indonesia a little bit, mostly Bali. Mainly been shooting with the like of Q3, but we had the. One of the reasons we want to [00:38:09] Speaker A: do this trip is Elena and I [00:38:11] Speaker C: wanted to learn to scuba dive. So we booked a scuba diving course in a place called Tulumban, which is at north of Bali. We scooted up here, which is pretty fun. That took a long time. [00:38:21] Speaker A: And we scooted back a completely different direction. [00:38:23] Speaker C: We've done about 400Ks on the scoot. So we've been seeing the country, which is nice. [00:38:29] Speaker A: It's good to get away. [00:38:30] Speaker C: Like the way we come back home. We were going through towns where the [00:38:36] Speaker A: school kids were pointing at us and like we would run. There was no one else there that looked like us at all. It was. Yeah, we got a lot of points. [00:38:46] Speaker C: Yeah, it was really cool. [00:38:48] Speaker A: It was very nice. [00:38:49] Speaker D: Cambodia. [00:38:51] Speaker A: Exactly. It was very much like Cambodia where you just. You're. You're not. They know you're not from here and. But they all want to. Kids are asking us our names and stuff. [00:39:00] Speaker C: Like even while we're riding past on the scooter, they're like, what's your name? And I'm like, you know English? I don't know. [00:39:05] Speaker A: I don't know how to say that in Indonesian. [00:39:07] Speaker C: Yeah, like it was like a six year old. Yeah, way smarter than me anyway, so we did that. But yeah, we, we went scuba diving. We learned to scuba with my friend Dan and his friend Anthony that we now know. They were very good scuba divers. [00:39:26] Speaker A: They didn't teach the course we had a guy teaching us. But they were also scuba ring. And then we got to scuba with them. [00:39:31] Speaker C: So after we got our sea legs, [00:39:36] Speaker A: I decided to take. [00:39:37] Speaker C: Well, Yelena took her camera down the om system TG7. [00:39:42] Speaker A: Shockproof and waterproof. [00:39:44] Speaker C: Waterproof to 15 meters, which is quite impressive. Like that's more than a GoPro. A GoPro is 10 meters without a housing. [00:39:52] Speaker A: 15 meters without a housing. [00:39:53] Speaker C: And the, the further you go down, [00:39:55] Speaker A: every 10 meters that you go down is another bar of pressure. So the pressure at, at sea level is 1 bar. The pressure at 10 meters is 2 bar. The pressure at 20 meters is 3 bar. So that's how it just increases in that way. So the deeper you go, the more the water is trying to force itself into your camera. Basically because there's more pressure to ramp past the little seals and all that sort of stuff. So they sell a dive housing for this that goes to, I don't know, 40 or 50 meters or something like that. But so our course rated us to 18 meters. This is rated 15 meters. [00:40:42] Speaker C: So I can tell you that this [00:40:46] Speaker A: can go to 20 meters. [00:40:49] Speaker C: A warning, A warning will come up on the screen on the back. When you get to about 15 minutes, keep going down, a bigger warning will come up. Really? But it's. Yeah, oh yeah. Because it knows what depth based on pressure. So it operates in the same way that if that we have a gauge [00:41:13] Speaker A: tell us the Depth. Or you can have a dive watch that tells you your depth. This camera will tell you depth. I don't know how accurate it is. It's probably not as accurate as a really good dive computer or something. [00:41:23] Speaker C: But my photos. [00:41:25] Speaker A: Each one tells me what depth it was taken at, which is really cool for the money. And the fact that this doesn't have a separate housing. This is an amazing camera. Like every. [00:41:37] Speaker C: There's no way of really showing you [00:41:39] Speaker A: guys, I don't think, but every hatch. [00:41:41] Speaker C: Can I get this to do that? [00:41:44] Speaker A: Every. My face. [00:41:46] Speaker D: Go behind the other way. Yeah, there you go. [00:41:49] Speaker C: Every hatch has two locks. See how there's two locks there? [00:41:54] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:41:55] Speaker C: Two buttons on that hat. [00:41:57] Speaker A: So you have to lock each one. They lock in different directions and. Yeah, so it's. [00:42:04] Speaker B: So you don't actually. [00:42:04] Speaker C: It's a really impressive. [00:42:05] Speaker B: Knock it open. [00:42:08] Speaker C: I think probably that. But also it looks. I think it makes it more structurally sound. [00:42:12] Speaker A: Two. Two different latches. So it's like locking in two on two different planes. Yeah, it's. And. [00:42:22] Speaker C: And the. They have. [00:42:23] Speaker A: I'll do it again. [00:42:24] Speaker C: Can I do it behind my head? [00:42:27] Speaker A: Tell me if it's in focus. I can't see you guys. [00:42:33] Speaker D: Get rid of your eye. Your autofocus is too. [00:42:40] Speaker C: Got it. [00:42:40] Speaker B: What are we looking at? Yep. [00:42:42] Speaker D: Yeah, the lock. [00:42:43] Speaker A: The red. The red behind the latches. It's open now. So that's to warn you that you're not securely latched. You know, if you put your SD card in or whatever. Yeah, it's. It's a very impressive camera in that regard. You can just take it and go diving. Yep. But yeah, it says no after 15 meters. [00:43:05] Speaker C: The dive instructor was like, that camera [00:43:07] Speaker A: is not rated to the depth we're going to like. [00:43:09] Speaker B: Ah. [00:43:10] Speaker C: It should be fine. [00:43:11] Speaker A: Like, [00:43:13] Speaker B: I've jumped in a pool with an R5 Mark II. It'll be fine. [00:43:17] Speaker C: It should be fine. And he was like, are you sure? And then even when we were going down, he's like pointing at the camera and he's like, you know, like, that's. This is that. And I was like, let's just see. [00:43:28] Speaker A: Let's see what happens. [00:43:29] Speaker C: And it was fine. [00:43:31] Speaker A: It was. [00:43:31] Speaker C: Yeah, it was really good. I don't. I'm not endorsing it. I won't buy you a new TG7 if you go to 20 meters. And it implies. But I did. And it was totally fine. [00:43:41] Speaker A: And I think that's really impressive. [00:43:43] Speaker C: I assume they always rate them at something that's safe. [00:43:49] Speaker A: You know, when you. If you sell 10,000 cameras. We need to make sure that people don't complain. And. And so we write it, we've tested it to, I don't know, 25 meters. We're going to write it at 15 or however they do that, I'm not sure. But anyway. [00:44:06] Speaker D: So what. [00:44:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:44:07] Speaker D: What you're saying is an R5 is about one and a half bar. [00:44:13] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:44:13] Speaker A: I don't know what. [00:44:14] Speaker C: What. [00:44:14] Speaker A: Just under that. Just under that. [00:44:17] Speaker C: But yeah. [00:44:20] Speaker A: And the TG7. Yeah. Is rated to. [00:44:22] Speaker C: It's definitely rated to close to 3 [00:44:24] Speaker A: bar of water pressure. [00:44:27] Speaker C: And we were down there for. [00:44:29] Speaker A: So you don't stay down at that 20 meter depth the whole time, obviously. But the dive was 40 minutes. So that's the other thing too. Is dur. Russian. [00:44:37] Speaker C: So it was a long time for [00:44:39] Speaker A: the potential of water to ingress or whatever and totally cool. [00:44:43] Speaker C: And salt water, all fine. [00:44:45] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:44:45] Speaker A: We just. [00:44:48] Speaker B: Yeah. What about operability? Like, you know, you're underwater. Did you have gloves on or were you free? Were your hands free or. [00:44:54] Speaker C: No, because it's. It's really warm. [00:44:56] Speaker A: So. [00:44:57] Speaker C: Okay, no gloves needed. But you would definitely need gloves in winter. [00:45:01] Speaker A: But the, the. [00:45:02] Speaker C: So you've got one. [00:45:04] Speaker A: Do this again. [00:45:05] Speaker C: One main sort of dial at the [00:45:08] Speaker A: top there next to the shutter button. [00:45:10] Speaker C: And it. Is it coming up? No. [00:45:13] Speaker A: Anyway, it's quite knurled. It's. It's like chunky knurled. [00:45:17] Speaker C: So I don't think it would be [00:45:18] Speaker A: much problem in gloves. [00:45:21] Speaker C: It's not. I mean the ergonomics aren't the best [00:45:23] Speaker A: because it's still a very small camera. It's not. It's not my R5. So the ergonomics are never going to be like using that. [00:45:34] Speaker C: But I basically used it in. [00:45:37] Speaker A: Which I'll talk about a bit. I'll show some photos. [00:45:40] Speaker C: But use that in aperture priority mode. [00:45:44] Speaker A: And so the dial changed the aperture and if I press the exposure compensation button, which is pretty easy to reach and see underwater, I could then use that dial to change the exposure compensation to make it brighter and darker. And that's all I did. I wasn't shooting this doesn't have a [00:46:04] Speaker C: manual mode, which is a bit of a shame. Kind of weird. [00:46:07] Speaker A: Aperture priorities, the most control you can really get. You'll only normally use it in program mode. It does also have a lot of auto modes, including a diving mode. [00:46:18] Speaker C: I used the diving mode a fair [00:46:22] Speaker A: bit in some of the photos I'll show and I used aperture priority. The problem with diving mode is it was letting the shutter speed go too slow. So if there was fast moving fish, it was often dropping to a 60th or whatever. And I was like so. And then I was trying to get a shot of Yelena, you know, like swimming or whatever. And a 60th was just too slow. So aperture priority. And then I used the menu customizations to I think make the minimum either. I think about 200th was all right. [00:46:52] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:46:53] Speaker B: So yeah, because the, the, I don't know if they have it with the seven, but I remember with when the six came out, it had the, the dive housing, but it also had like two dive lights that attached to that housing. Because the illumination was probably the, the biggest challenge. The deeper you go, the darker it gets. Here [00:47:14] Speaker C: it gets darker and you also lose light transmission of spectrums. So your red. Do you remember the light spectrum? What's the acronym? Roy G. Biv. Red, orange, green, yellow, blue, indigo, violet. [00:47:34] Speaker A: Roy G. Biv. Good job. [00:47:35] Speaker C: Primary school, secondary school. The red end of that spectrum gets lost in the water faster. [00:47:48] Speaker A: For better word. I don't know, like absorbed. It doesn't transmit through water as well. That's why everything ends up looking blue. [00:47:57] Speaker C: So I think if you're shooting with [00:48:01] Speaker A: artificial light sources that are very close to your subject and not having to penetrate deep, then you retain more of those natural colors because the light source is only going through a small amount of water before it hits your subject. [00:48:17] Speaker C: So I was trying to think about [00:48:19] Speaker A: this logically and it was like there's [00:48:21] Speaker C: the distance between your camera and your subject and that light transmission will absorb wavelengths, I think. And then there's the distance from the [00:48:33] Speaker A: light source to your subject and that will also absorb the. So there's, there's two factors at play. The distance for me, I'm shooting natural light, so there's this distance that the sun is having to travel through the water. 18 meters deep. [00:48:51] Speaker C: 20. [00:48:51] Speaker A: Good job TG7. And then there's the distance between me and my subject which at that point isn't changing much other than the visibility becomes an issue as well. Like is the water murky or whatever? [00:49:04] Speaker C: And that honestly I thought light was going to be an issue. But the, the if the sun's out, [00:49:11] Speaker A: there's a lot of light at 18 meters. [00:49:15] Speaker C: It wasn't like a low light photography [00:49:18] Speaker A: scenario like I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be dark. But it wasn't a big issue for this sensor. You know, it wasn't that. It was more the issue of not retaining colors and stuff like that. [00:49:30] Speaker C: But yeah, there was. [00:49:31] Speaker A: There Was people under the water, where we went with big. Macro setups for. [00:49:42] Speaker C: Oh, hang on, I'll wait. [00:49:44] Speaker D: You're back. [00:49:45] Speaker C: Am I back? [00:49:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. [00:49:48] Speaker C: They photograph these things called nudie branches. [00:49:54] Speaker D: They're. [00:49:55] Speaker A: I don't know what they are. Someone will probably say in the chat if they know. [00:49:59] Speaker C: They're like little slugs that are, like. I was expecting them to be, like, this big. [00:50:04] Speaker A: They're. [00:50:05] Speaker C: They're like this big. But there is, like, hundreds of different species that are different colors. And so there's this whole thing about, like, photographing unique nudie branches and, like, [00:50:20] Speaker A: collect the whole set. They're like Pokemon for people. [00:50:24] Speaker C: There's these divers just floating around with giant outrigger flashes on camera housings, Basically shooting macro on the ocean floor looking [00:50:36] Speaker A: for these little nudie branches that are tiny. [00:50:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Wow. [00:50:41] Speaker C: Okay. It's. Yeah, it's a whole thing. Macro. We went to a place that was, like, called Macro Reef, and it was for. It was. [00:50:51] Speaker A: Because it's a really good spot for macro sea life photography. [00:50:58] Speaker C: See, Felicity knows they're a type of beautifully colored mollusk. [00:51:04] Speaker B: Nudie branch is the same as naked girl. [00:51:08] Speaker A: Sorry, Gil. [00:51:10] Speaker C: Naked gill. Interesting. [00:51:12] Speaker B: I misread that. Just before we have a look at what Justin's been doing under the waves from Robin, Just imagine how much better the rumored arrival of the OMTG8 will be. Like. Allegedly, it's a lot different. So I'll probably be needing another lucky strap. Oh, poor you, Robin. [00:51:35] Speaker D: Did you take your camera strap down, Justin? [00:51:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I didn't. I ended up. [00:51:41] Speaker A: I didn't. [00:51:42] Speaker C: There's a lot of stuff on a scuba kit, and I was still very new and nervous, so I was trying to minimize everything, like. [00:51:53] Speaker A: And so I ended up actually putting an Insta360 wrist lanyard on this that I had. And just. And then. Then Anthony, one of our friends that was diving with us, lent me a. A retractable lanyard that clips onto the scuba gear so I could have it basically sitting here. And then I could retract it out to, like, have my arms extended and have it close to something. And then when I let go, trying to just hang near my waist, but then down. [00:52:23] Speaker D: Yeah. [00:52:26] Speaker C: But yeah, I. I would definitely. I could have a lot of fun with a full camera and housing. [00:52:34] Speaker A: I'm just not sure I got to figure out if we're going to be able to do this more or not, you know, like scuba more often to justify the cot. The housings are very expensive for something like an R5 mike, too. They're super Expensive to have a water housing. [00:52:49] Speaker C: Yeah, but so, so that was a [00:52:50] Speaker A: surf housing that was expensive. [00:52:52] Speaker D: Different to a dive housing. [00:52:54] Speaker A: Yeah. So it was max 10 meters. [00:52:56] Speaker C: Oh, wow. [00:52:57] Speaker D: Okay. [00:52:58] Speaker A: Definitely couldn't use that now. But some of the dive housings that I'm looked at, I've looked at it, like for an R5, you're talking like two and a half to 7,000. [00:53:09] Speaker C: Wow. Yeah, [00:53:14] Speaker B: that's a lot. [00:53:15] Speaker A: So, yeah. [00:53:15] Speaker C: Oh, look at this. First time. Allison Faskin, 9706. First time in the live chat. Long time podcast listener in the car. Oh, thanks for joining us. Awesome. Heading to Peru and Galapagos next week. [00:53:29] Speaker A: Thinking of getting the TG7 for Galapagos. [00:53:32] Speaker C: Well, if you. Are you snorkeling or diving, in which case 100 plus, like it's. It's not a full frame. Awesome camera or whatever. The image quality isn't that, but it's [00:53:45] Speaker A: a really easy camera to use. It's super durable. It's rated to 20 meters now. And. [00:53:53] Speaker C: Yeah, let's look at some images. [00:53:57] Speaker A: Let's look at some images. Some sort of stuff. [00:54:03] Speaker B: So the housing for your camera just. There's a couple of different brands. OM do their own, but ranging depending on how deep you want to go, they can even just for that camera can range from like 300 bucks to over a thousand. [00:54:19] Speaker C: And yeah, I think I. I guess [00:54:20] Speaker A: I would probably Google it, but I'd [00:54:21] Speaker C: probably just get the OM housing, I assume. Unless there's some sort of. Oh. [00:54:26] Speaker B: What? [00:54:26] Speaker C: Apparently they're not pronounced. They're not pronounced nudie branch. They're pronounced nudie brank. They're magical. I've seen microscopic ones the size of a fingernail tip. Yeah, the one. So we saw two or three different colors and ours were probably. [00:54:42] Speaker A: Yeah, like, like that. [00:54:45] Speaker C: Because the guide would bring us over. [00:54:48] Speaker A: The guy that was teaching us to [00:54:49] Speaker C: scuba and showing us things, and he'd shown us some other things. We saw eels and all sorts of crazy stuff. [00:54:56] Speaker A: Eels are weird. [00:54:57] Speaker C: And he's bringing us over and like we're getting close. He's pointing and I'm like, I can't see anything. [00:55:05] Speaker A: He's like, get close to anything. [00:55:06] Speaker C: And then I end up like, I was like this far from the, from the thing looking at it and I'm like, ah, this is one of those [00:55:14] Speaker A: slugs that everyone's been talking about. [00:55:20] Speaker C: I didn't take some images, although this does have it, but it's just not. It's. It doesn't. I'll show you. [00:55:28] Speaker A: The slugs don't do it for me. All right. I'll leave the slugs to the professionals. [00:55:40] Speaker C: All right. So, yes, just to start with a little bit of the sort of photos that I normally take with my camera. This is my friend Dan. This is what it looks like when you're five [00:55:56] Speaker A: minutes late to go scuba diving with Dan. That's the facial expression that you get. [00:56:03] Speaker C: But it shoots a nice black and white candid photo. That was just. [00:56:07] Speaker A: Yeah, I was like, does. [00:56:09] Speaker D: Does Dan know you? [00:56:13] Speaker B: He certainly does now. [00:56:14] Speaker D: Because five minutes is not bad for you. [00:56:18] Speaker C: That's right. So I wonder if this was one of the shots that I put in [00:56:27] Speaker A: here that Yelena took. [00:56:28] Speaker C: So Yelena took. Took it down on the first dive. She realized we didn't have the settings correct, probably, but she also doesn't know [00:56:36] Speaker A: the camera well enough to troubleshoot settings underwater. [00:56:40] Speaker C: So this had the fill flash on, [00:56:43] Speaker A: and that's what these lit up bubbles are. And so. And when you're breathing scuba, there's always little bubbles coming up in front of your face and things like that. [00:56:51] Speaker C: So. [00:56:51] Speaker A: And just other stuff in the water. And the fill flash, while the fill flash would be good maybe for something like a nudie brank to get a little bit of, like a pop of color on it. Maybe in a macro shot, it was when you're further away, it was just messing with the shot, basically. So we turned that off before the next dive. But then the next dive, [00:57:17] Speaker C: you take it down. You know what you're trying to take photo [00:57:23] Speaker A: now we lost resolve, whereas I'm still trying to learn the camera. [00:57:26] Speaker C: But as I. Oh, am I back? [00:57:30] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah. You're sort of in and out. [00:57:34] Speaker C: Okay, am I back now? [00:57:36] Speaker D: Yep. [00:57:38] Speaker A: It's falling apart. [00:57:40] Speaker C: This was another shot of Yelena's. That is obviously the clownfish in the. What's it called at an enemy? The nemo fish. [00:57:50] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. So [00:57:55] Speaker C: that was one of the last [00:57:57] Speaker A: shots she took with. Before she come out of the water from the first dive with the camera. [00:58:02] Speaker C: So, yeah, the first time we actually [00:58:03] Speaker A: took the camera down, Yolanda used it and probably. I probably should have used it first and then given it to her after I figured out if there was anything we need to change or whatever. [00:58:13] Speaker D: But. [00:58:14] Speaker C: So that's with the flash [00:58:17] Speaker A: that would have had the fill flash still on, I think. Yeah, it was on the whole time she was down. That's probably what this stuff is up here. This was in shallower water and it was pointing straight down. She was like, obviously swimming straight over the top of it. That might have minimized the amount of bubbles and things that were in front of the camera with the fill flash. And she was closer to this. So that's probably where the fill flash probably helped with the colors of the clownfish there. [00:58:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:49] Speaker C: But yeah, very cool. So, yeah, good for stuff like this. Like, I was walking. We were walking in to. [00:58:55] Speaker A: To start scuba diving and put our fins on and stuff like that, straight off the beach. And it's such an easy camera to use. I could just one hand take a couple of snaps on the way in and get a shot like this. Whereas that would be hard with a full housing on a. On a full frame camera to do just with one hand while you're also trying to carry. I was carrying my fins and trying to figure out how to scuba dive. So, yeah, some more in the water shots. That's the. [00:59:27] Speaker C: That's the underwater. If things are good underwater, don't. Don't do this. Don't do the thumbs up. [00:59:33] Speaker D: Does that mean you gotta do that? [00:59:35] Speaker A: Thumbs up means to go to the surface. [00:59:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:59:38] Speaker A: So the. Okay, son. [00:59:43] Speaker C: This unfortunately isn't. This is a. [00:59:46] Speaker A: This is a shot of like I took the shot, but these were two other divers that were coming in at the same time as us. But I love the sort of photos where the lights streaming through and. Yeah, yeah. [00:59:58] Speaker D: The layers. [00:59:59] Speaker B: That's very cool. [01:00:00] Speaker A: Yep. [01:00:04] Speaker C: And then another shot of Yelena where [01:00:07] Speaker A: you see this color starting to be trickier with skin and things like that. [01:00:12] Speaker C: Like this one. Some fish, lots of fish. We got to see one of those swirling fish things. I don't even know what they're called. It's like hundreds and hundreds of fish swirling almost in. [01:00:25] Speaker A: Like a tornado. [01:00:27] Speaker C: But the. [01:00:28] Speaker A: The light, it was overcast and it was at 7am so there wasn't enough light to really take a proper photo of it. It's much better when the light's coming through. [01:00:39] Speaker C: That was just a strange looking fish I thought was interesting. And while I was still having trouble [01:00:47] Speaker A: getting my settings right, I think especially at depths. [01:00:50] Speaker C: And the editing, the editing, tricky to [01:00:52] Speaker A: try to balance colors where you can try and get the colors accurate. But then it looks weird because there's no blue in the water. [01:01:00] Speaker C: So it's kind of balance. [01:01:02] Speaker A: If you try and make it look accurate. Almost doesn't look like you're underwater. [01:01:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:11] Speaker C: This was the US At Liberty shipwreck that we dove, which is a shipwreck from World War II that had to get grounded ashore because it was in Trouble. And then 20 years later, the volcano erupted near where we were staying. And Pushed it into the water. [01:01:36] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [01:01:38] Speaker A: So now it's underwater. Yeah. [01:01:43] Speaker C: Nev. Clark says. Did you have a red filter on the camera? [01:01:46] Speaker A: I did not. [01:01:46] Speaker C: We're rookies. [01:01:47] Speaker A: Never learning. I would probably try and get one of those next time. And I assume they make one of those for the dive housing because a red filter will. What will that do? Basically enhance the reds. [01:02:03] Speaker D: Yeah. Add the red back in, wouldn't it? [01:02:05] Speaker A: Add the red back in. Exactly. [01:02:06] Speaker C: Yeah. More fish, Elena. [01:02:13] Speaker B: Gosh. The black and whites, aren't they? [01:02:16] Speaker A: I really like the black and whites. I can see why Matt Crummons is so enamored with underwater black and whites. Remember photos we were looking at of his of like whales and sharks and stuff that were amazing. [01:02:29] Speaker C: Let's see what this looks like zoomed in. So like quality wise it's not. It's not. [01:02:38] Speaker A: Yeah. A gfx. [01:02:40] Speaker C: But also you're underwater so there's. [01:02:43] Speaker A: There's an amount that you lose just to visibility and stuff in the water. All these little bubbles and things like that. [01:02:49] Speaker C: The amount of detail, I was really impressed with it. [01:02:51] Speaker D: Yeah, it's a really. Better than your other underwater camera. [01:02:58] Speaker C: This is true. That's that in color. No reason other than. [01:03:02] Speaker A: I was just. I really like the black and white over the color. [01:03:05] Speaker B: Yeah, the black and white is magical. [01:03:14] Speaker C: You landed with a poker. [01:03:15] Speaker A: That's to keep you off the reef [01:03:20] Speaker B: without touching it with your hand. [01:03:21] Speaker C: Shots of your laner just testing out. Yes. [01:03:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Because you get stung or like get like your skin and stuff. So you just use it. You basically. And it has very minimal impact because it's a tiny little poker. [01:03:33] Speaker C: So it's just if the current brings [01:03:35] Speaker A: you in or you want to hover near something. But you're. [01:03:38] Speaker C: The thing is that I didn't realize with scuba you. [01:03:41] Speaker A: You balance yourself out with weights and a little bit of air under the water so that you're neutral and you can just float like a spaceman. [01:03:50] Speaker C: But your lungs are an air filled sack. So every time you breathe in you go up a bit. Every time you breathe out, you go down a bit. [01:04:02] Speaker B: Oh, wow. [01:04:03] Speaker C: Up a bit. [01:04:04] Speaker A: Down a bit with every breath. [01:04:06] Speaker C: And apparently my lungs are quite big, which meant I was. Yeah, I was probably going up and down sometimes a meter with. With my breathing and. And good scuba. Because you can never hold your breath [01:04:19] Speaker A: while you scuba dive either or else your lungs might explode if you go up. [01:04:25] Speaker C: So the good scuba divers are really [01:04:27] Speaker A: great at like controlling their [01:04:30] Speaker C: buoyancy with [01:04:32] Speaker A: their breathing without having those big swings of. Of going up and down. Anyway, I digress. These are the flags on the. On the Liberty, the Indonesian flag and the US flag. [01:04:44] Speaker B: Oh, God, I can't believe they're still there. [01:04:47] Speaker A: No, they're not that. I think that happened. They got put on a ceremony maybe a year ago. The guy was saying. I was gonna say, geez, the US Come out and did a ceremony there. [01:04:58] Speaker C: And every year, our diving shock was [01:05:01] Speaker A: saying every year on U.S. memorial Day, which is like their Veterans Day, I guess, their Anzac Day. [01:05:11] Speaker C: All of the local dive instructors, because this is a big. [01:05:14] Speaker A: There's a big industry around this shipwreck in that area. Huge. There's dive resorts everywhere. [01:05:22] Speaker C: Any dive instructor that's not actually working [01:05:26] Speaker A: that day will go and do an underwater ceremony at the shipwreck for Memorial Day. [01:05:33] Speaker B: Wow. [01:05:34] Speaker C: Yeah, it's really cool. And Rick Nelson says, today in the usa it is Memorial Day. This is true. [01:05:43] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:05:44] Speaker B: Today it is. It is. [01:05:48] Speaker C: So, yeah, that would be doing it today. And. And, yeah, but the flags had this like, like lost world underwater. [01:05:57] Speaker A: Just like floating there with all green stuff on them and looking tattered. It was really. [01:06:05] Speaker C: And then. Yeah. Oh, I don't even remember. [01:06:09] Speaker A: Massive. We. We went around the whole thing. Our friends got to go inside it because they're better divers than us. I can't remember. [01:06:17] Speaker C: I want to say 60 meters or something. Maybe longer. [01:06:22] Speaker A: I'll look it up. [01:06:23] Speaker C: But yeah, that's. That. That's all the photos. [01:06:26] Speaker B: That's really cool. [01:06:27] Speaker C: So I'm very impressed with that camera. [01:06:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Well done for being able to take shots first time you, you know, learning how to scuba diving. That's really cool. Do you think you'll. Do you want to go back and do more? Have you caught that bug? [01:06:42] Speaker C: I definitely. We'd need to get some more of our own gear because it is really [01:06:47] Speaker A: uncomfortable doing it in high, high gear and not knowing where everything is. Once you start to learn where your own stuff is. And I had a lot of. I got a blood nose in my mask because the mask was not comfortable, and weird stuff like that. Like, it'd be nice to have your own stuff. [01:07:02] Speaker C: But then it's also just, will I [01:07:04] Speaker A: have the time to make the trips to make it a thing? That's what I'd like to see. Definitely before I invested in you can, [01:07:14] Speaker C: I was all for like, oh, I [01:07:16] Speaker A: think I'd want to do this with a proper water housing. But then seeing the photos that I got with the TG7, I was like, [01:07:23] Speaker C: I could definitely have a lot of [01:07:25] Speaker A: fun shooting with this for quite A while and know. [01:07:30] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:07:30] Speaker A: Make do to really know if it's worth investing in a. Yeah. Proper water housing, I think. [01:07:37] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:07:38] Speaker A: Yeah. So [01:07:41] Speaker C: ust Liberty shipwreck [01:07:46] Speaker A: length? Let's find out. [01:07:50] Speaker C: Oh, 125 meters. [01:07:52] Speaker B: Wow. It's a big ship. [01:07:54] Speaker D: That is big. [01:07:55] Speaker B: Yes. [01:08:00] Speaker C: Yeah. World War II era vessel off the [01:08:02] Speaker A: coast of Tampon in Bali. Highly accessible. [01:08:05] Speaker C: It is. [01:08:05] Speaker A: It's. [01:08:05] Speaker C: We literally to dive the shipwreck, we're [01:08:08] Speaker A: just walking off the beach. There's no buzz. [01:08:10] Speaker C: Like we did do some boat diving [01:08:12] Speaker A: stuff, but yeah, it's pretty amazing. You're just walking off the beach, swim and then go down and then you see this as you're going down. You can't see any shipwreck. You just see like blue and the, [01:08:20] Speaker C: the, the bottom of the ocean. [01:08:23] Speaker A: And then in that, like in the murky distance, this massive like bow of a ship just becomes visible. Like it's kind of creepy like through fog, you know, like you would imagine the ship just coming out of the fog and you see this huge ship. Yeah. [01:08:38] Speaker B: Yes. [01:08:38] Speaker D: Pretty cool. [01:08:39] Speaker B: That's very cool. [01:08:41] Speaker D: Was it on its side or something? [01:08:44] Speaker A: It's leaning. Yeah, it's. It's definitely leaning to one side. Yeah. [01:08:48] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:08:49] Speaker A: It would have been really fun too. [01:08:50] Speaker C: We went through a little bit of [01:08:52] Speaker A: it, but it would have been fun to actually go inside it. But I also probably would have been scared. [01:08:57] Speaker D: Yeah, it's a different level of [01:09:01] Speaker A: diving. Yeah. [01:09:02] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:09:02] Speaker B: And so just out of curiosity, what, what is the like. So have you and Elena now got an accreditation, like a ranking of something as divers? How does that work? [01:09:12] Speaker A: Yeah, which is. [01:09:13] Speaker C: It's basically the first level of, of [01:09:16] Speaker A: what you can have, which is open water diver, which means we can dive in open water. Which I think that means you are out of. [01:09:24] Speaker C: Open water is not protected. [01:09:26] Speaker A: So it's not a pool or something. It's actual ocean maybe. And then. Yeah, to 18 meters, that's just. And then. [01:09:33] Speaker C: So the next one is advanced, which [01:09:37] Speaker A: can get you to 30 meters. And, and at night and some other things. Apparently night diving is really, really cool. That would also be scary. There's one moment. So on the last day we did [01:09:50] Speaker C: a four day course, finished it in a day and a half. [01:09:54] Speaker A: Boom. Apparently Elena and I are, we're fast workers. [01:09:59] Speaker C: So then we had two and a [01:10:00] Speaker A: half days to do whatever we wanted. And so the next two days we, we did just dives with our friends, just exploring sea turtles and things like that. [01:10:09] Speaker C: And the last day the waves were [01:10:12] Speaker A: rougher, so it was rough seas to get in. And then a lot of sediment and stuff in the water as well. So the visibility was lower, so we [01:10:21] Speaker C: had to swim out further and then basically had to descend down where you can't see the bottom. [01:10:27] Speaker A: And it's not clear like we'd had over the last few days. [01:10:29] Speaker C: It was murky, and I'd been having some moments when. [01:10:35] Speaker A: From when I learned to where it [01:10:36] Speaker C: was just in the pool and stuff [01:10:39] Speaker A: like that, where I didn't want to be under there. And I had to settle those nerves each time before I went under. And this time I was like, I went under about a meter, and then I was like, no, I need to just go up for a second. [01:10:52] Speaker C: Because once you go under, you're under [01:10:53] Speaker A: for, like, 40 minutes. And it feels like it's kind of stressful that first bit. Be like, oh, I'm not going to be able to breathe above the water for 30, 40 minutes. I don't know if I want to do this. And then. [01:11:02] Speaker C: So I went back up, redid my goggles, made my. [01:11:05] Speaker A: Made sure my regulator that you breathe through was in and comfortable and all that sort of stuff, because I've been having trouble with it. [01:11:12] Speaker C: And then I went to go back [01:11:14] Speaker A: under and look down. And you basically have this inflatable life jacket called a BCD that's keeping you afloat in the water so you don't drown at the top while you're getting ready. And then you lift this thing up above your head, deflate your bcd, and then the weights that you've got around your waist take you to the bottom of the. Slowly to the bottom. And so I'm like, all right, I'm ready. I'm going to do this. And I put my goggles under the water, and I looked down. It looked murky and scary, and Yelena and the dive instructor already so far down, I could barely see them. I was like, all right, gotta go down now. No choice. Start pressing the thing and it deflates. And I'm looking down, and I didn't [01:11:56] Speaker C: really want to go down, but I [01:11:57] Speaker A: knew I had to, but I wasn't. Once it had deflated, I wasn't going down at all. I'm like, oh, I don't know what's happening. [01:12:06] Speaker C: And the dive instructor ended up coming back up, and turns out I. I [01:12:11] Speaker A: was kicking with my flippers like my. I was. [01:12:15] Speaker C: I was going, all right, we're going down. But my body was like, no, we're not. [01:12:19] Speaker A: We're swimming to the top and staying there. [01:12:21] Speaker C: So I was kicking with My flippers and avoiding going down. [01:12:25] Speaker A: But I didn't realize I was doing it. [01:12:27] Speaker C: It's just like, what's happening? [01:12:29] Speaker A: But I'm. I seen like a duck. Just like, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. [01:12:34] Speaker C: So that's pretty. It's a weird. [01:12:35] Speaker A: It's a weird mental thing [01:12:38] Speaker C: Rodney Nicholson says. Did they pull your mask and reg out? No. [01:12:44] Speaker A: So that's your mask and your regulator. But we did have to do mask off underwater, regulator out underwater. Swap regulators. Either breathe off your laners, spare regulator. You know all these practices for what happened in case something goes wrong underwater. The mask off is the worst one for sure. Taking your mask off underwater, can't see anything. Seawater starts stinging your eyes. [01:13:06] Speaker C: Then you've got to put it on [01:13:07] Speaker A: and try and clear it out by breathing out your nose. Freaked me out anyway. Did it? Hate it every time. [01:13:15] Speaker B: Well done. Well done. You [01:13:21] Speaker A: all right? [01:13:21] Speaker C: We should probably get to your images because I'm supposed to be going out for. For dinner soon, but Tintype man says, I hear you, Justin. I did some. Did some search and rescue dive training in my 20s. [01:13:34] Speaker A: I remember being under a boat and not being able to see my hand in front of my face. It took everything of control not to panic. Yeah, that's. That's something else. I can't imagine doing that. That'd be terrifying. Yeah, that would be terrifying. [01:13:54] Speaker C: All right. You got any images this week, Jim, or you would just look at everyone else's? [01:13:59] Speaker D: Not finished. I've had a couple of debs and [01:14:03] Speaker A: stuff, but nothing too exciting. Where we. [01:14:10] Speaker C: Let me find where we are this week. Would you mind reading them, Greg? [01:14:17] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. [01:14:18] Speaker C: Because I can't do both. [01:14:21] Speaker B: Simon England. [01:14:24] Speaker C: Yeah, let me just find it. All right. [01:14:34] Speaker B: Okay. Simon England. Hi all. A photo to share for the Monday night show. Not wanting to upset Greg, let's just say this photo was taken in a town somewhere north of Newcastle. Somewhere very, very north of Newcastle, I would say. When I visited this town, it was surprisingly busy and it was difficult to capture decent photos around this area without influencers and selfie takers but polluting the image. After walking 15 kilometers around the town, the rain slowed just as it became dark. Hoping the rain and darkness had driven the influences inside, I grabbed my raincoat. The OM one. Getting a lot of OM Love tonight and face the elements. The waterproof OM one had no issues with the rain. The operator was fighting to take any decent photos. The darkness and glare from fogged up glasses and wet screens made it hard to see what was being photographed. And there was a Lot of rejects. But I was able to get a set of photos I was happy with. The photo I have sent in illustrates this evening. The photo shows the character of a beautiful near empty street. The rain allows the lamps to light up the street and creates a tone mood that I love. Unfortunately, you don't have to look too close to see. A huge water drop found its way onto my lens. My first instinct was to AI generate the offending artifact, but Mr. Lightroom couldn't handle it, so I left there. I can't see where it is. [01:15:56] Speaker C: Up the top. [01:15:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:15:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Okay. Whilst the photo would be nicer without the artifact, its presence has grown on me and it reminds me that I was standing in a street that was centuries old under a small tree that made the huge water drops that ended up on my lens shot at ISO 1600 f 2.81 20th of a second. And please pass on my apologies to Greg. Not accepted. [01:16:25] Speaker C: Town in the north. Rhymes with I don't know. [01:16:31] Speaker D: Not even gonna go there for one. 120th. That's impressive. [01:16:35] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. See the rain? [01:16:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:38] Speaker C: It's like the light rain coming through in spots. Yeah, yeah. It's beautiful. And I. Yeah, I think the. [01:16:45] Speaker A: The water drop, I think it adds to it. It's great. Look very real, like you can remember standing there. [01:16:52] Speaker D: Yeah. As Dennis has said, that's lovely. I can feel it. [01:16:56] Speaker A: And. [01:16:56] Speaker D: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you definitely can. I think that the rain adds to it definitely. [01:17:04] Speaker C: Great photo to start tonight off. [01:17:07] Speaker B: It is indeed. Let's move along. John Latimer. You got that one, Jay? [01:17:18] Speaker A: I'm getting there. [01:17:21] Speaker B: Hey, guys. Been buried with work and mentally burnt out this week, so I thought I'd share this photo I got of a tawny frogmouth and her newborn, which lightens my mood. [01:17:32] Speaker A: That's cool. [01:17:33] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Have you ever seen an ugly baby and thought, that's unfortunate? And the mother gives you that side eye like. Don't say it. Don't say it. Shot with a Sony A7R III with a 200 to 600 at 600, 1500, shutter at f 6.3, ISO a thousand. Oh. He goes on to say, greg, love your new setup. Cosintan artwork in the back. Amazing artists. Met them back in 2013. 14ish on their Australian tour. Have a good week and take care. Thanks, John. I. Yeah, I met Cosin Dan. They were out. I went to their exhibition at. It was in the city at Utre Gallery, where Sash and I buy a lot of our art. But that would have been maybe 2000 when I first bumped into them at that opening night, but, yeah, incredible artists. I love this stuff. We've got a bit of it, which is great. It's a great job. [01:18:40] Speaker C: I'm back. [01:18:41] Speaker A: Sorry. [01:18:42] Speaker B: Is it the baby down the bottom sort of looking at the camera? [01:18:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [01:18:47] Speaker C: Let me zoom in. [01:18:48] Speaker B: Yeah, okay. Oh, look at that. Oh, that's so cool. Amazing. [01:19:01] Speaker C: Look at the side eye. [01:19:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:05] Speaker A: Like a judge. [01:19:07] Speaker C: Like, what are you. [01:19:08] Speaker A: You taking a photo of? [01:19:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm gonna take your eyeballs. That's great. [01:19:17] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:19:18] Speaker B: Awesome. And I love the. I love the framing and all of the. The elements. The leaves that are in focus, the background. [01:19:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Finding an angle in that scene to get that is tricky. There's a lot going on. [01:19:36] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:19:37] Speaker D: Half a step to the right and you've got tree branch. [01:19:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:42] Speaker D: And same to the left. You've just got leaves. [01:19:47] Speaker A: Yeah, that side eye for me is. It makes it. [01:19:53] Speaker B: What have we got here? We've got Nev Clark up next. Have you got Nev shots there, Justin? [01:19:58] Speaker C: Yeah, Nev's got two. All right, let's get the right one first. [01:20:01] Speaker B: This one. This is some sand dunes at sunset after a really windy day where the wind just blows certain parts of the sand away, leaving these mini craters or sand art. Oh, that's cool. [01:20:13] Speaker D: That is cool. It's like, put it on your wall. [01:20:17] Speaker C: Cool. [01:20:18] Speaker B: Yeah, very much so. This is shot in Albany, Western Australia, with the DJI Mavic 4 Pro ISO 250F 2.8. 28 millimeters at an altitude. I love that you get to add altitude of 80 meters. That's amazing. That's just. It's mesmerizing, isn't it? [01:20:41] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:20:41] Speaker C: And, you know, it'd be hard, though. You could probably fly a drone around for so long just taking different compositions of different random. [01:20:50] Speaker A: You know, like, you would be. [01:20:52] Speaker C: Hope you could. [01:20:53] Speaker A: You could do this all day. Well, obviously the light would. Would change, but, you know, the. It would be endless almost of what you could frame up and decide that that's your composition. [01:21:04] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:21:06] Speaker A: yeah. [01:21:06] Speaker B: For sure. It's an abstract. And then Nev's second image. Lights, camera, action. It was like an amphitheater, blowholes, beach in Albany with the Fujifilm GFX1, hundreds Mark II and the GF100 to 205.6. ISO 400 F11 at 1/1000th. [01:21:32] Speaker D: That'll do it. Yeah. It's like, where do you. [01:21:37] Speaker C: Nev and his great landscape shots? [01:21:41] Speaker B: Yep. [01:21:43] Speaker C: And his gfx. [01:21:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah. That's beautiful. [01:21:47] Speaker C: What did it say? What lens that was. [01:21:48] Speaker B: I missed, sorry. Yeah, it was a gfx with the GF100 to 205.6. Yeah, you got Rodney excited there, Nev. He's a crusty old sea dog too. [01:22:05] Speaker C: It's a cracker. [01:22:08] Speaker B: Lisa. Lovely. Phil, top shot. Superb timing. John Latimer. Amazing, Nev. And finally, David Skinner. Beautiful wave shot. Yeah, great stuff, man. Very cool. [01:22:23] Speaker A: Yeah. The play between the light streaming through the clouds, the. And the wave. Just the perfect timing is just. [01:22:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's got it all. And the cold tones down the bottom and the warm tones up the top. Yeah, it's just beautiful. And Nev says. Yeah, GFX gets it done. [01:22:49] Speaker A: So does the Q3. [01:22:54] Speaker B: All right, up next is John Hall. You got those, Jay? Yep. [01:23:00] Speaker C: If I can. All right. [01:23:02] Speaker B: Excuse me. Firstly, great interview with Chris Anderson on Thursday. Really interesting bloke and well done, Greg, for such an interesting conversation. Thanks, John. This image is of sunset taken while camped on top of Mount Oxley. It's about 40km east of Bourke and is an isolated mesa like hill about 200 meters above the surrounding plains. Because of this, the sun effectively sets below you which casts some really interesting shadows and can light up the rocks in deep reds and oranges. The juxtaposition of the Telstra Tower against the trees in the foreground particularly appealed to me. Is that it on the right? So. [01:23:45] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, on the right. Let me zoom in on it if I can. [01:23:50] Speaker B: This is actually a two shot, two shot panorama shot with the Nikon D70 with an 18-55 F 3.5 to 5.6 at 18 millimeters. 1 1, 1 30th of a second. ISO 200. [01:24:07] Speaker C: Cool. That's beautiful. [01:24:09] Speaker B: I love the, the reds on the ground [01:24:14] Speaker A: that. That tree in the center. Yeah. Just. It stands out. It's like it's striking and it's. It needs that space on the right where the Telstra Tower is to balance it out and balance out the left hand trees. But yeah, that's. It's a very interesting composition. I think you've nailed it because if you scented that. Because the tree isn't centered but if you scented it, it would be off balance. [01:24:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:44] Speaker A: You've included the right amount of space on the right hand side to balance everything out. [01:24:50] Speaker B: Yep. [01:24:51] Speaker C: Great work. [01:24:53] Speaker A: That's lovely. [01:24:59] Speaker B: Very cool. Couple of comments from Den. So wild Tintype man. Very nice. Never said love this. Wow. And Phil Thompson said, love that lighting on the rocks and grass, John. And yeah, the tree is a good anchor most definitely. [01:25:23] Speaker C: Well done. [01:25:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:25:24] Speaker C: Very cool shot. [01:25:25] Speaker B: John, who we got next? We've got Jamie Vandenberg, Bend and Brink. Sorry, my bad. Tweak production. Hi, camera life crew. Here is a macro shot I took with my new phone. I know I feel dirty. A phone photo. It's okay, we all do it. Don't worry. I have been trying to find a compact camera that is great at macro that I can just have on me when I don't have my heavy kit. I'm so close to getting the TG7 which is also very awesome. I needed an. I needed a new phone too. So I researched the out of phones and cameras and came across the Oppo X9 Pro, the new one with the Hasselblad camera. Have not been disappointed. The depth of field is super fine, which is the only thing I can't change, which is a little bit annoying. But I like a soft look anyway. However, the detail is awesome. Here's a pic of a baby gecko. I found it work on the floor, propped it on a leaf. Oh, look at that. Wow. [01:26:25] Speaker A: So that's the shot. Sorry, that's. This is. I guess. [01:26:30] Speaker B: Yeah, look at that. [01:26:31] Speaker C: That's with the phone. [01:26:34] Speaker B: That's bananas. [01:26:35] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:26:35] Speaker B: That's pretty crazy. What have we got here? Of course, this can't replace my amazing Canon setup, but it's great to have something convenient when something catches my eye. It's a bit. It's a bit of a wank factor being a hassle. Bled too. This is the only way I'll ever own a Hasselblad. Have a good show. It's a fair call, but my God, the image is beautiful. [01:26:59] Speaker C: Nuts. [01:27:00] Speaker A: We're gonna have to do this one. [01:27:02] Speaker C: Enhance [01:27:04] Speaker A: that. [01:27:05] Speaker D: Is that focus drop offs? Crazy. [01:27:08] Speaker B: Yeah, that is pretty. [01:27:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:27:09] Speaker C: And I wonder where that's. [01:27:11] Speaker A: If there's some like. [01:27:13] Speaker C: Is this anything computational or. [01:27:17] Speaker A: Yeah, I'd love to. [01:27:18] Speaker D: Artificial in the phone kind of thing. [01:27:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:20] Speaker A: Yeah. This is this. Or is that just because. Because it's macro. There's such a narrative to field. Or is that falls off? [01:27:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:27] Speaker A: Computational. But the. I mean this. This part just bang. [01:27:31] Speaker B: That's. Look at that eyeball. But if you go to the previous shot, it's quite a small. It's quite a small lizard. So. [01:27:39] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:27:39] Speaker B: True to make it wouldn't take much for you to. Yeah. Like look at that. Yeah, that's tiny. [01:27:49] Speaker A: That is dominating. Wow. [01:27:54] Speaker B: Amazing. Yeah. Look, let us know how you go with it. Shooting with the Oppo and yeah, be looking forward to seeing more from it. It's interesting, isn't It. Because we've seen Leica do this for a few times, but mostly with. Is it the Xiaomi brand that they did a collab with? Was that Leica and Zelme? [01:28:19] Speaker A: I lose track. But they did it with another phone 4. And then they. The most recent one is with Xiaomi. I think you're right. Yeah. Which one's got that S9 Ultra or whatever? Is that? Yeah. Remember? [01:28:33] Speaker B: Yeah. I think it's interesting to see these collaborations like Hasselblad did with. Was it DJI right from the start or from. Well, Hasselblad owned. [01:28:43] Speaker A: No, sorry, DJI owns Hasselblad. [01:28:46] Speaker B: Oh, okay. I don't know that bit. [01:28:49] Speaker C: Hang on. No. Insta3. Oh, my gosh. I've lost track of who does what. [01:28:54] Speaker B: That's okay. That's fine. Which one? Let's move along. John Pickett. [01:28:59] Speaker A: Let's move along. [01:29:04] Speaker C: Where is he? Oh, yeah. [01:29:07] Speaker B: All right, so. Hi, Justin and team, just a quick thank you for Greg selecting Hayley for the wrist strap at the Fuji Creator Summit. And I have included some photos of her using her new wrist strap. She got a chance to use it at the latest Melbourne Creative community photo walk and was showing everyone. Oh, it looks pretty good. [01:29:27] Speaker C: Looks pretty good. [01:29:28] Speaker B: Did a good job, Jim. I've included a couple of photos I took of her using the strap and have also included the. Her favorite photo from the day, which was shot on the Canon R10 with a 6A Sigma RF5614 setting were 11 2, 50th F 1.4, ISO 100. She said she wanted the demon in the background to be blurred, which is why it was at 1.4. My God, Haley. [01:29:56] Speaker A: Good work. [01:29:58] Speaker B: Jeez. [01:30:01] Speaker C: Nailed focus, too. [01:30:02] Speaker B: Yeah. That's beautiful. [01:30:10] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:30:11] Speaker B: Nice. [01:30:12] Speaker A: Wow. [01:30:12] Speaker D: Super sharp. [01:30:15] Speaker A: Yep. Amazing work. [01:30:19] Speaker B: That's with the. Glad you like the Canon R10. Yeah. [01:30:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:30:24] Speaker B: Good job. Good job indeed. [01:30:28] Speaker C: I think you might be giving your [01:30:29] Speaker B: old man a run for his money there, Haley. [01:30:33] Speaker C: He's in trouble then. [01:30:34] Speaker A: Yeah. One from the Fujifilm walk, not from the Fujifilm day. [01:30:43] Speaker C: So good. That's what we like to see. [01:30:46] Speaker B: Well done, Haley. And lots of love coming in from the chat as well. What do we got, Rick Nelson? Those wrist straps just fit so good. Well, great shot, too. Rodney says. Cool. John Pickett. Well, he's. He has to agree as part of his obligations. Great choice of color, too. Yeah, I definitely agree. Well done, Haley from Lisa Leach. And well done. Love the light on her face from Felicity. What else? David said lovely, Haley. And John's come back saying she loves a wrist drop, wrist strap. Thanks again. [01:31:24] Speaker C: Thank you. [01:31:24] Speaker B: And then Dennis. And Dennis packaged it nicely by saying flipping chickens. Haley. I think we're all thinking that that's a great shot. Well done. Keep sending them in for sure. Look forward to seeing more. [01:31:39] Speaker A: Definitely. [01:31:43] Speaker C: Phil Thompson. [01:31:44] Speaker B: Phil Thompson sent in a few photos. Maybe part of a series. Who knows? Please find attached some shots in the fog for this week's photos. I saw these online. These are beautiful. Please please yourselves. How many you want to or have time to show. But they were all photographed on Tuesday and Wednesday mornings last week around Geelong Series and barable, both close to Geelong. All shot on my Pentax K1 Mark II with the 15 to 30 wide angle and then just a range of different camera settings per image. But yeah, I saw these on Facebook and I. I commented because they were just gorgeous. [01:32:30] Speaker C: Oh, wow. [01:32:31] Speaker B: I love the pano. [01:32:33] Speaker C: Yeah, the pano is crazy. [01:32:41] Speaker A: Yeah, look at that. [01:32:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:47] Speaker C: Trees in the fog. Anything in the fog. [01:32:52] Speaker A: I remember when I was doing my POV videos, taking it like that challenge that. The 30 day challenge. I was just constantly watching the fog because it made walking around Bendigo taking photos in the morning so much more exciting. Because things look cool when it's foggy. [01:33:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:06] Speaker D: Slightly interesting. [01:33:08] Speaker C: Yeah. It's just like it's seeing a boring scene, but in a. In a really new and exciting way. [01:33:15] Speaker A: This. I'm not talking about Phil's photo. I'm talking about when you're doing. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, I know this street, but now this street with fog now looks really cool. Yeah, exactly. Oh, that's cool. [01:33:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:28] Speaker C: Number five. And then this is number six. Nice. [01:33:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:33:36] Speaker C: Nice tones. [01:33:37] Speaker A: Good editing. [01:33:38] Speaker C: Too soft and like nothing overdone. Not over sharpened or anything like that. Just. [01:33:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Every photo's had good balance. [01:33:48] Speaker A: Yeah, balance, exactly. [01:33:51] Speaker B: What a great set. And Brucie has said, give me the fog. [01:33:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:34:01] Speaker B: Nice. Wonderful. I think that's my favorite, just with the V line train. Reminds me of going to Bendigo. [01:34:07] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And they're so. They're such iconic because they've been. How long have they been those colors for? [01:34:15] Speaker A: Like. Yeah, you know that's a V Line train. Yeah, yeah. [01:34:18] Speaker D: Since they bought them in, isn't it? [01:34:21] Speaker B: Since those new ones. Yeah. [01:34:23] Speaker D: Which would be [01:34:27] Speaker A: a million. [01:34:27] Speaker D: To be like 20 years longer. [01:34:30] Speaker C: Yeah. I think they still burn wood. Steam trains. Okay, [01:34:41] Speaker B: I'll start reading. Hi, Justin and Greg. No mention for Jim. Please attach my images for this week's podcast. Your images section. The two images I'm sharing for Your feedback were taken last week whilst walking around Lake Ilden. Bonnie Doon with my nick on. This is a favorite location of mine in all seasons, but the autumn months are incredible, with colors, reflections and fog almost guaranteed. This autumn has been a little unique, however, with the distinct lack of a lake. In the first image, I'm standing where copious amounts of water usually flows. Yet surprisingly, the almost barren terrain still holds some magic for me. The second image of a gathering of gums would ordinarily be challenging to photograph without the use of a boat. There is something I was special about photographing your local area. Oh, gosh. That's got some mood, hasn't it? [01:35:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I think so. This was the Dry. The Baron. Yeah, the Baron dry. Sorry, I had them back to front, but yeah, [01:35:46] Speaker B: Sorry. There is something special about photographing your local area. You gain a relationship with the scenery with the knowledge you can return at ease with different light and weather and experiment with angles and compositions without the pressure to get everything right in the first time. Thank you and warmest wishes to all, Lisa. Thanks, Lisa. [01:36:05] Speaker C: Thanks, Lisa. [01:36:07] Speaker D: Great shots. [01:36:08] Speaker B: Amazing. [01:36:10] Speaker D: I'll be up there. [01:36:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:36:12] Speaker C: It takes a special. Oh, yeah, yeah. [01:36:18] Speaker B: You're going camping. [01:36:19] Speaker C: Jim. [01:36:21] Speaker B: Nice. [01:36:21] Speaker D: Keen to see how little water there is in the lake. [01:36:25] Speaker B: You can take your camera. [01:36:26] Speaker D: Yeah, maybe. Maybe. [01:36:30] Speaker B: God. [01:36:31] Speaker D: Depends if anyone wants to do anything fun. [01:36:35] Speaker C: What's fun? Just get yourself a TG7 and just point it at whatever. [01:36:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:36:40] Speaker C: You can put this. It's 20 meters. It's good to go. [01:36:43] Speaker A: I'll just take it. [01:36:43] Speaker D: Well, I was gonna say I'll take yours, but it's not even yours. It's your latest. [01:36:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:36:50] Speaker C: Great work, Lisa. It takes. It takes a special to approach us a scene like this. [01:36:57] Speaker A: Dry scene with. [01:36:58] Speaker C: But still present it beautifully. But a barren scene and what would [01:37:05] Speaker A: normally be seen as, I guess, negative in our, like, in the environment. Because it's not normally supposed to be like, you've done an amazing job. And then the other one's just. That's a really beautiful shot. [01:37:17] Speaker B: Yeah, it is, yeah. [01:37:18] Speaker D: Australia, sort of bush. [01:37:19] Speaker B: That'd be worthy of a print. But even the Baron one, it still speaks of life like this. It still has that. [01:37:25] Speaker A: That. [01:37:26] Speaker B: That living vibe to it, you know, Even though it kind of looks like there's just everything sort of deteriorating, it still. Still carries that theme, I think. And Phil says, love the mood. Lisa, there's something special about fog and you've nailed it. Yeah, agree. Well done, kiddo. Good stuff. Up next is Rodney Nicholson, the old salty sea dog. Hi, Justin. [01:37:55] Speaker C: Huh? Greg, just. Just before you read this one, if you. If you're slightly squirmish, avert your eyes [01:38:03] Speaker A: for this first photo. [01:38:06] Speaker B: Okay. [01:38:07] Speaker A: Okay. Go on, Greg. [01:38:09] Speaker B: What? Oh, my goodness. A couple of photos after my visit to hand surgeons at Geelong Hospital. Traveling well, but it's my right hand, so can't lift camera phone picks. Can't help myself. I don't think you need phone specs. What have you done? [01:38:25] Speaker D: Ouch. [01:38:25] Speaker C: So, yeah, so that's gnarly. I hope you're feeling okay because that's a. There's some serious stitches and stuff. Wow. [01:38:36] Speaker A: Yeah. And then [01:38:40] Speaker C: here are a few of the phone photos that he must have [01:38:43] Speaker A: took because he can't help himself. Yeah. Left hand. Yeah, that's true. [01:38:49] Speaker C: Wow. But these are great. [01:38:55] Speaker B: Yeah, that's really cool. Lisa wants to know if it was a. If it was a shark bite. Rodney, he said it's Vikings disease. I've never heard of that, but that was a. That's a pretty wicked, wicked wound you've got there. Yeah. [01:39:19] Speaker C: We hope a good photographer down. [01:39:22] Speaker B: I can't. Yep. All right. [01:39:27] Speaker C: Yeah, great shots. No phone specs. We don't even know. There could be a. Was it a Nokia? What was it? [01:39:33] Speaker A: Anyway, [01:39:37] Speaker D: you can get the data. Aren't you in lot room? [01:39:42] Speaker A: I probably can. [01:39:42] Speaker C: Let me see. Apple iPhone 14 Pro Max. Wow, he's got the goods. Pro Max F 2.8, ISO 32 and 9 millimeter focal length in an uncalibrated color space. Anyway, let's move on. [01:40:08] Speaker B: Second to last is Philip recovery. Yeah. Yeah. Rest up. [01:40:13] Speaker A: Yes. [01:40:14] Speaker C: Hope it's coming. Hope it's going well. [01:40:18] Speaker B: Philip Johnson's up next. The image. This image captured dawn over the megalong valley as a cloud inversion moved from the valley camera was the Sony A74 with a 70-200 GM Mark 2, 2.8 process in Photoshop and Topaz Studio. [01:40:42] Speaker D: It looks really cool on here, so. And I assume it looks even better in Lightroom. [01:40:49] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it's. It's. It's good. Well, I'm not in Lightroom. [01:40:52] Speaker C: I mean, Phoenix Slides, if anyone wants a good program to view photos, that's easy and just, just for viewing JPEGs and stuff. Phoenix Slides works really well. Not a sponsor, but could be if you wanted. [01:41:05] Speaker A: Phoenix Lights, call us, please. [01:41:08] Speaker C: Yeah, it looks. It looks really great on my screen. It's a beautiful shot that. Ah. [01:41:12] Speaker A: The clouds are just cutting through [01:41:18] Speaker C: the rock faces above and below the clouds. [01:41:21] Speaker A: That's crazy. [01:41:22] Speaker B: Yeah, isn't it? It's almost like a water shot. You know, you see those shots where the camera's half in, half out of the water? [01:41:30] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. It does have that kind of. To it. [01:41:35] Speaker B: Yeah. That sort of the. The bottom half of the frame has that kind of swirly kind of feel to it. The colors make it like water. [01:41:45] Speaker C: Us in the scuba industry, we call that. We call that a split shot. I'm part of it. Part of the industry. [01:41:53] Speaker B: You're part of the industry now. [01:41:56] Speaker C: Yeah, but you paid a few dollars [01:41:58] Speaker B: and you got wet. Now you're. You're in the scuba industry. [01:42:01] Speaker C: We did our course. The. I can see some extra settings here. 160, 100, 60th of a second. F4, ISO 1000. So it was low light. [01:42:14] Speaker A: Yeah, like it. [01:42:15] Speaker C: Like not. Not low, low light, but like it was. [01:42:18] Speaker A: Yeah, it was that dim, [01:42:21] Speaker C: I guess. Sunrise. Sunset. What do we reckon? Sunrise or sunset? [01:42:27] Speaker B: I reckon so I'm gonna say sunset. [01:42:29] Speaker D: Maybe sunrise wouldn't be. If there's an inversion. [01:42:34] Speaker C: Yeah. I'll put my money on sunrise. [01:42:37] Speaker A: I'd say I think he's an early bird. [01:42:42] Speaker D: Would only happen in the morning, wouldn't they? [01:42:46] Speaker C: I have no. No idea. [01:42:50] Speaker D: Sunrise. [01:42:51] Speaker C: Sunrise, it said. [01:42:52] Speaker B: There we go. Well done. [01:42:54] Speaker C: Sunrise. Rodney Nicholson's confirms Sunrise. [01:43:03] Speaker B: One more to go. We're gonna finish. [01:43:05] Speaker C: One more to go. [01:43:06] Speaker D: Rick does have a question in the intern, though. Justin. Hey, Justin. You're going to start doing underwater dog photography now. [01:43:13] Speaker C: Oh, look, There's. There's an epic photographer that got famous [01:43:21] Speaker A: a while ago that did the dogs jumping into water, chasing balls and stuff. He. He nailed that thing. And now it's been. [01:43:29] Speaker C: It's been copied a lot. [01:43:31] Speaker A: And I'll be happy to do it for people, but I would know that I'm just replicating a style that he pioneered that was pretty amazing that. That shot, you know when you can see, like their gums and teeth and everything because they're landing in the water, [01:43:45] Speaker C: Those shots, [01:43:48] Speaker A: it would be really hard. [01:43:49] Speaker C: He was. He was doing. I'm sure he was doing strobes and [01:43:51] Speaker A: everything under the water. [01:43:53] Speaker B: Wow. [01:43:54] Speaker A: And then. Yeah, just. Just getting them to launch at balls and then capture them as they. Yeah, it was awesome. [01:44:02] Speaker C: So, no, Rick, I probably won't. Underwater dog photography. [01:44:07] Speaker A: Could get the regular dog photography first. Okay. [01:44:11] Speaker C: Felicity Johnson. [01:44:12] Speaker B: Last is Felicity Johnson. A couple of weeks ago, I left Ted's camera store. The question was, is what was in the bag? What did you buy? And I was heading to the venue and. Sorry, the Venus and Rose photography studio. And this building caught my eye. Whoa. Gosh. It takes a moment for your brain to frame it, doesn't it? [01:44:41] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:44:43] Speaker C: Coming from where? [01:44:45] Speaker D: I thought it was a shot through a tree at first, but now I can. Yeah, it's the reflection of the clouds. [01:44:50] Speaker B: Yeah. That's incredible. Sorry, let me go on. And this building caught my eye. I have no idea where I was. This little country chickadee was slightly lost but having a jolly time in the big smoke Anyhow, I love the cloudy sky and the clouds and the reflections. Nikon Z8. 24 to 72.8. Workhorse. That's lovely. [01:45:10] Speaker D: Good shot. [01:45:11] Speaker C: Great camera. [01:45:12] Speaker A: Yeah, great camera. [01:45:18] Speaker C: Yeah, it is. It's a great composition too. I'd be interested to know how many [01:45:23] Speaker A: shots you took before you found this one. Or did this just immediately catch your eye and you looked up and you're like, bang, that's the one. [01:45:29] Speaker B: Yeah, that's it. [01:45:31] Speaker D: She said she traded in a Tamron 15 to 30. Did you trade it in for the 24 to 70? [01:45:40] Speaker C: No. Or did you go a nick on wide? [01:45:43] Speaker A: Did you go. [01:45:44] Speaker C: Did you go the. What have you got, Jim? [01:45:46] Speaker A: The 1420? [01:45:53] Speaker C: No, no, but she said she traded the time around. [01:45:56] Speaker B: Okay. [01:45:56] Speaker A: Oh, just for cash. Oh, not for cash. [01:46:00] Speaker B: Oh, that's why you're intense. Okay, sorry. And just a little shout out too, that there was a bunch of people from our community who received a whole bunch of photography awards and mentions. Honorable mentions this week from the Australian photography group. So congratulations to everyone who, you know, who you are. He submitted images, bravery. I think that's really brave to submit images and take on the feedback. And a lot of you were awarded with new certificates and prizes. So well done. Very, very cool. [01:46:38] Speaker C: Late Edition. Oh, late Edition. Late Edition. [01:46:44] Speaker A: Rick Nelson. [01:46:44] Speaker C: I'm going to read it out and then I'll show it because it's late, so I can't do it the normal way. [01:46:48] Speaker A: Hey, guys. [01:46:49] Speaker C: Took this last week with my TG7. I know I may miss the show. That's okay. Image settings, aperture priority 1200 of a second. F2 at 2 1/2,000 ISO. Little photo walk in the bay area of Wynnum, Queensland. [01:47:04] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, let me bring it up, let me bring it up. [01:47:09] Speaker C: So a good TG7 sh. What can't this camera do? Oh, nice. [01:47:24] Speaker A: Look at that. [01:47:26] Speaker C: Wow. Perfectly like. [01:47:31] Speaker A: Yeah, that is perfectly timed for the balancing the ambient. Like the sunset light. The lit. [01:47:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:39] Speaker A: Lights that are under there, the yellow [01:47:41] Speaker D: lights and the beautiful of the ambient light versus the sunset behind is pretty crazy close. [01:47:50] Speaker A: Yep. [01:47:52] Speaker B: Yeah. Amazing. Who was this from? Sorry. [01:47:55] Speaker D: Rick Nelson. [01:47:56] Speaker C: Rick Nelson. Wow. [01:47:59] Speaker B: Yeah. What a color. [01:48:00] Speaker C: I'm sure, sure it said TG7. What a great shot from that camera. [01:48:06] Speaker A: Yeah, very cool. [01:48:08] Speaker C: Yeah, the. The files were better to work with than I thought. Like, it's a 12 megapixel camera, I think. And. But they were. They had more latitude in the raws [01:48:19] Speaker A: than I thought they would. I thought they would fall apart really, really quickly. But I was able to boost shadows and things like that, and it didn't. They didn't just crumble. [01:48:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:48:30] Speaker C: So, yeah, I was pretty impressed. Rick Nelson says I shoot and RAW Edit illuminated. Oh, sorry. I agree. [01:48:38] Speaker B: No, no, you go. [01:48:40] Speaker C: Oh. Shooting RAW Edit and Luminar Neo. [01:48:43] Speaker A: Yes. TG7. Nice. [01:48:47] Speaker C: Wow. [01:48:47] Speaker B: Maybe we should get OEM to sponsor the show. We're giving it a lot of love today. [01:48:52] Speaker C: Well, they did support us by using our camera straps for the launch of [01:48:57] Speaker A: the OM3, which was really, really cool. [01:48:59] Speaker C: Speaking of camera straps, if you need [01:49:03] Speaker A: the best camera strap to carry your [01:49:05] Speaker C: camera, you should go to Luckystraps.com we make the best camera straps in the world. I'm gonna say it. And if anyone wants to challenge me, come at me. [01:49:13] Speaker A: Let's see. We'll do a test. We'll do a head to head. [01:49:15] Speaker D: We'll bring him on the podcast. [01:49:18] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, we'll do a head. We'll talk comfort, usability, lack of hardware on the body itself, so it's actually [01:49:27] Speaker A: comfortable to use and carry all day long. And bring the camera up to your eye and bring it back down. [01:49:31] Speaker C: Anyway, get lucky shops.com because this is the only ad for the podcast and we. [01:49:36] Speaker A: I don't think we did one. [01:49:36] Speaker C: Did we do one earlier? [01:49:38] Speaker B: Yeah, I did, but you weren't listening. That's fine. [01:49:41] Speaker A: I think maybe I was frozen. [01:49:47] Speaker C: Anyway, use code Greg, and you can get yourself a healthy discount, as he says, and potentially also get him to Japan one day. [01:49:55] Speaker A: We'll dangle that carrot as long as we. Yeah. [01:50:00] Speaker D: You know, I noticed the other day, Justin, I was. My belt. I've had this new belt for about, I think two years maybe. Maybe longer. I'm not sure. But yeah. [01:50:10] Speaker A: Oh, it's. [01:50:10] Speaker D: It's finally like a nice soft. Not that it was uncomfortably hard, but I mean, like, it's like it's just starting to wear in. Not wearing out after that long. [01:50:25] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:50:25] Speaker C: Normally that would be wearing out. [01:50:27] Speaker A: Maybe something. The fake leather would be starting to separate under regular belts that you buy. [01:50:34] Speaker C: Yeah, we also do belts if you've [01:50:35] Speaker B: already got a belt and everyone's got pants. So everyone needs belts. [01:50:42] Speaker A: Most. [01:50:42] Speaker D: Most people have pants. [01:50:43] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I guess, you know. [01:50:49] Speaker C: All right, I better go because I had a hard cap of that finished 22 minutes ago. But what a show. It was good to see you guys. [01:50:57] Speaker B: I miss you. [01:50:57] Speaker C: I missed the thing because I've been. I haven't been on as many shows, and I missed the interviews, and now I'm like, I feel lost. So it's good to be back. [01:51:08] Speaker B: Well, it's. It's good to have you back on, but it'll be even better to have you, obviously, back in Bendigo. You and Yelena joining us. So you're back on. What day are you back? Next week? No, this week. [01:51:24] Speaker D: Next week? [01:51:25] Speaker C: No, not this week. Third of third of June. [01:51:28] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Yeah, next week. Gosh, must be tough. Oh, I've got some news to report just very quickly. I went on Tamarind Australia's podcast last week. Week. I was interviewed for get the Shot. Talking about a little bit about my work here with you guys and our community and a little bit about my photography. It was. It was interesting to be on the other side of an interview. And of course, Tamron. Joe Orchard, who runs the. The. The podcast for Tamarind Australia, he's part of Blonde Robot over there, went over to their. Their headquarters in Melbourne and checked out it out. It's pretty cool. But they don't. They don't go live. Joe's the chicken. That's what I'm. I'm calling it out. [01:52:15] Speaker C: Anyone that doesn't go, come on, Joe. [01:52:18] Speaker B: Yeah, but no, it was great. It was really cool and made me feel super comfortable. Super welcome. But, yeah, it was very interesting being on the other side of the interview talking about photography. Talking about my photography. So. So it was pretty cool. [01:52:33] Speaker C: Very good. [01:52:33] Speaker B: Had fun. [01:52:34] Speaker C: It's also. [01:52:34] Speaker D: Yeah, well, you have to let us know when it's out. [01:52:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, of course. [01:52:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:52:39] Speaker B: Maybe we'll have like a watch. [01:52:39] Speaker C: It'll have. [01:52:41] Speaker A: There we go. Watch 20 seconds at a time and [01:52:46] Speaker C: then comment on it. Yeah, yeah, it'll. One thing's for sure, it'll have higher production value than this. [01:52:57] Speaker A: This. This show that we do. [01:52:58] Speaker C: But our show has heart and plenty of it, so. [01:53:02] Speaker B: Yeah, and character. I agree. [01:53:05] Speaker A: Yeah. Not saying that it doesn't, but, you know. [01:53:08] Speaker C: Yeah, we do what we do. All right, I'll read some comments because I better go. Greg Carrick says, smash that, like, button. That would be great if everyone could smash that, like, button and. Or subscribe. It's awesome to see. We've seen multiple new faces in the chat tonight that are long time listeners. [01:53:28] Speaker A: That's great. [01:53:29] Speaker C: So thank you. [01:53:29] Speaker A: It's great to have you here. [01:53:31] Speaker C: Robin Aldridge says I have one of those lucky straps that came with my OM3. I currently have lucked three times. [01:53:39] Speaker A: Yes. [01:53:41] Speaker B: Nice. [01:53:41] Speaker A: Thank you. [01:53:42] Speaker C: And enjoy the strap because they were cool. [01:53:44] Speaker A: We really enjoyed making them. [01:53:46] Speaker C: The OM systems got awesome to work with. [01:53:49] Speaker D: Yeah, [01:53:53] Speaker B: yeah, his belt. His leather belt goes underwater. [01:53:57] Speaker A: Okay, cool. [01:54:00] Speaker C: Tintyp man says this podcast continues to be expensive. Just found a Fujif 400 mil F8 copple zero with shutter for $350 online [01:54:09] Speaker A: to round out my collection. [01:54:11] Speaker C: I wonder what next week will bring. Okay, so this is your thing. You. You listen to the podcast and buy camera gear online. [01:54:18] Speaker A: That's. That's great. I love the live updates too. [01:54:23] Speaker C: Philip Johnson says thanks. Thank you. We'll see you on Thursday. Thanks, Dennis, for being here. Thank you. Nev says thanks, everyone, for an awesome show. Gotta go. Capsule on the flip side. Rick Nelson. Thank you. John Pickett. Phil Thompson. John Latimer. Bruce Moyle. Thanks, guys. Sorry, tonight distracted with admin. [01:54:41] Speaker A: So just listening. Well, we appreciate you being here. [01:54:44] Speaker C: Nev Clark says 2.29 K. Awesome. Is that us? Are we 2.29 K? [01:54:50] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. [01:54:51] Speaker D: Yeah. [01:54:52] Speaker A: Cool. [01:54:53] Speaker C: Thanks. Join us. Lisa Leach. Good night. John Paul. Great show. So many amazing images. [01:55:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree. [01:55:01] Speaker C: And Felicity Johnson says sell them at Tingle. [01:55:04] Speaker A: Justin. [01:55:05] Speaker C: See you, everyone. [01:55:06] Speaker A: All right. Summer Tingle means good night, Justin. Okay, let's say good night. [01:55:12] Speaker C: Nice. Good night, Salamat Tingle, Felicity Johnson. And we'll catch you all on the next one. [01:55:20] Speaker A: See you, boys. [01:55:22] Speaker B: See you, mate. Be safe, everybody. Bye.