The Random Photography Show (EP171)

Episode 171 April 06, 2026 01:43:23
The Random Photography Show (EP171)
The Camera Life
The Random Photography Show (EP171)

Apr 06 2026 | 01:43:23

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This episode covers everything from a Melbourne photography exhibition to wild April Fools camera rumors, rocket launch photography, and viewer submissions. The hosts dive into NASA’s Artemis mission images, discuss gear news, and critique community photos ranging from street to macro. Plus, a reflection on their Art Wolfe interview and what it takes to build a lifelong photography career.

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[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sa. [00:00:29] Speaker B: Well, good evening everybody and welcome to the Camera Life podcast. Stick around because tonight we're going to have a little of a bit of an Easter debrief. We've also got a short term special guest here to talk about an upcoming exhibition and we're going to look at some of your images that you've been sending into us over the course of the week. But before we get to any of that, I just want to remind everybody that this is the Camera Live podcast random photography show, proudly brought to you by the team at Lucky Straps, which is also us. But we'll talk more about Lucky Straps a little later in the break. But for now we are joined today by a, a special guest, short term, like I said, just popping in for a few minutes. It looks like he's coming from a very cold climate because he's got his puffer jack and his, his woolen beanie on. But of course he's just in the, in the eastern suburbs of Melbourne. Nathan Coot. Welcome back. [00:01:21] Speaker C: G'. Day, how's it going? [00:01:22] Speaker A: Good. What's up? [00:01:25] Speaker B: See, I was pretty chilly in the [00:01:28] Speaker C: garage, [00:01:30] Speaker B: just, just the clarity for everyone. You weren't kicked out. That's your choice to be in the garage. So all is well good on the home front, but you've got a bit of an exhibition coming up that, that we want to hear about. But just before we go into that, if anyone's keen to learn more about Nathan and his amazing documentary style photography, head into the archives of the Camera Life podcast on YouTube. I think it was episode. It was about 11 months ago, it was almost a year ago when you joined us for, for a chat to learn more about your craft. And yeah, it's amazing how time flies. [00:02:05] Speaker A: If you search Nathan Coot interview. It'll come up. It'll come up. [00:02:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it'll come up. [00:02:09] Speaker A: You'll find us. [00:02:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Tell us a little bit about what you've, what you've been cooking up. [00:02:18] Speaker C: So last year I was invited by Revolver Upstairs in Prahran, a notorious club in Melbourne, to run a photographic exhibition alongside their art shows that they run regularly, which I don't think many people would know. And last year it was quite successful. I was invited back again this year and yeah, so I, I present Home for Dinner, which is a show with, I think I've got 18 or 19 photographers and it's the photographer's interpretation of what home means to them. It could be a home itself, people, food, anything that, yeah, relates to home. But there's no like photography there's. No rules. Just. [00:03:15] Speaker A: I like that. [00:03:16] Speaker B: Yeah, we should do that. [00:03:19] Speaker A: Do it as a. As a. A little temporary topic where people send images into the show. Just, you know, you take a little bit of inspiration for what you've curated and viewers could send some images into this show with that theme. I love, I love. Yeah, I love it's a great idea for a theme because there's so many interpretations of it. [00:03:38] Speaker B: Yep, yep. Very clever. So, Nathan, how did you go about finding your 18 or 19 photographers? How did you put the call out? [00:03:50] Speaker C: I went through a lot of people's works that I like, people I talk to regularly. Yeah. And just went through a list. Last year, I think I had 10 to 12 photographers. I wanted it to be branched out a little bit more, I guess this. My last year's one was what's called chaos in the cbd and it was pigeonholed, like straight to street photography, where this one is a lot more of a wider variety. So it was a lot easier to pick photographers who had a. Or were a bit of a wider variety of styles. [00:04:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:34] Speaker C: Could also sort of narrow it back down to what home is. [00:04:38] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah, that's very cool. I think it's a lovely concept and. And, you know, kind of focus for the photographers because often home is the last thing we think about photographing. We often are looking for something unusual, something different, but it's not very often that we stop and think, you know, what's around us, what do we call home and how do we define it? I think it's a great topic for that. For that exact purpose. [00:05:04] Speaker C: Yeah. I've also requested from. From the photographers to add in a little paragraph of what the image does mean and what their connection is to home. I mean, yes, the photos, it's easy to, you know, you can make up your own narrative of what. Of what is actually happening in the image. But I don't think you. You don't normally hear from the photographer their connection to it. [00:05:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. Yeah, that's really cool. And it's something that we try to emulate here. When we go through, you know, viewers images or even our own, we always like to make sure that people include a little story about it. What does it mean to them? How did. What. What they're doing at the time? What was the experience like? I think it. It helps to add to the overall story that an image is telling, I think, without going into too much detail, obviously, but it just. Yeah, that. That sort of artist thoughts is really important, I think, to include. So it's at Revolver, which is just around the corner from me. It's this coming next Friday the 17th from 5 till 9pm all the, all the images are framed or are they projected? [00:06:17] Speaker C: No. So they'll be all framed. Framed and hung up. Some will be for sale. People have encouraged artists to bring in prints and zines and they can also sell them as well behind, behind the table. So yeah, there's also Colonel Tan's restaurant up there as well. It's a Thai restaurant. So yeah, calm down. [00:06:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it sounds very cool. And for those of you that are going, you know, choose to go along and check out the exhibition. Don't be put off by the sticky floors. That's just part of Revolver. It's best not to know what's down there. [00:06:58] Speaker C: I learned the other day I was there documenting the walls of Revolver because there's some crazy artwork from across the years like Banksy's and Shepherd Fairies and all those sort of big name international artists to like localized ones. But I learned that they paint the floor every day. Every Monday. Yeah, paint it black. [00:07:24] Speaker B: That's crazy. Yep. [00:07:28] Speaker A: Wow. I'm gonna have to go back through my scrapbooks and bits and pieces that I've got because I'm. We played there once, I think. I think we only ever did one gig there, but I can't. I'm like. When I try and cast my memory back, I get like snippets of what it looks like but I can't picture the room properly anymore. It's been so long. [00:07:47] Speaker C: Couches everywhere. [00:07:49] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a phenomenal building. It's quite an imposing building and the ground floor has a lot of co. Work spaces and actually a friend of mine, Darren Middleton, he had his. One of his studios was in. At the back on in like a soundproof room in. On the ground floor of Revolver and he's an amazing photographer as well as a musician and I went in there with him once to catch up and yeah, there's some amazing spaces in there. Even just the courtyard at the back and how there's like walkways and little glass offices and like it's quite an eclectic mix of, of of spaces, which is cool. Yeah. All right. [00:08:27] Speaker C: Cool building. [00:08:28] Speaker B: It is, it is. Oh look, we, we certainly wish you all the very best for it. I hope to come and pop by with my partner Sash on next, next Friday. It is just for anyone else that's watching along 17th of April, 5 to 9pm at Revolver upstairs. That's on Chapel street in Prahran. Just. Yeah, Google Revolver Upstairs. And you'll certainly find it very, very quickly. Along with some disturbing photos, no doubt. Careful what you Google. Yeah. Yes. But, yeah, all the very best for it, Nathan. I think it's great. And, yeah, I'll look forward to catching up with you on the night. [00:09:07] Speaker A: Awesome. [00:09:08] Speaker C: Beautiful. Thank you very much. [00:09:10] Speaker B: Good luck. You stay warm. [00:09:12] Speaker C: Will do. [00:09:14] Speaker B: All right, be safe, mate. Thanks for dropping. [00:09:16] Speaker C: Bye. [00:09:17] Speaker B: See ya. [00:09:18] Speaker A: See ya. All right. [00:09:22] Speaker B: Very cool. [00:09:23] Speaker A: He's gone. Okay, that's. I can't believe he's able to pull together that many photographers for one show. Yeah, that's a big effort. [00:09:30] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:09:32] Speaker A: Very, very cool. [00:09:33] Speaker B: It's a great idea, you know, because getting one image, you know, printed and framed whilst it's still an expense. It's very different to doing a solo exhibition and having to frame 30 or [00:09:43] Speaker A: 40 prints exactly and arrange everything yourself. I guess Nathan's arranging everything for all the other photographers. But, yeah, it's a. It's a. It's a much easier sort of step into or to do a quick exhibition if you're part of a group rather than having to do it all on your lonesome. Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's very cool. I hope. I was just looking at my calendar. I was like, maybe I can get down there. I'm not sure. I'll see. If not. It'll be great to hear what you think, if you get along. [00:10:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:08] Speaker A: Check it all out. Cool. [00:10:10] Speaker B: Sure. [00:10:11] Speaker A: What's been going on? How was your weekend? [00:10:14] Speaker B: Weekend's been very quiet. We've just been chilling a bit. Last week, it looks. It felt like everyone took turns and being sick, and so this weekend was just nice to just, you know, chill out and not. Not worry about who was being sick. But, yeah, I went out, I think, Thursday night, Friday night, went and did some photos, which I'll show you guys later in the. Your images section towards the back of the show. But, yeah, the way we've just been doing stuff around the house, slowly cleaning up and trying to finish off the few little odd jobs left over from our renovation. But I quickly learned that you can't do that from the couch. So I'm not happy about having to do, you know, handyman, handy person work without sitting on the couch. I don't understand. Anyway. Well, what about you? What have you been up to? [00:11:05] Speaker A: We went up the river. My. My sister's family were up there, and my parents end up up there as well. So it's a big. It was a big family Easter, which is pretty fun. The nephews were running around like Crazy. And doing lots of wakeboarding and stuff behind the boat. The river's getting chilly, but we had a few sunny days, which was nice. Lit a fire. I cooked steaks on the fire. That was fun. [00:11:27] Speaker B: How'd that go? [00:11:30] Speaker A: Mixed results, but a couple of the ifillets were amongst the best steaks I've ever cooked. So that was good. It's very dependent on the cut of meat I found and a thick. I feel it gives it enough time to get a good crust from the fire and it just tastes completely different. So. [00:11:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:11:47] Speaker A: Anyway. Anyway. Enjoyed that. What else was good? Played the. I channeled my inner Greg and played some Nintendo Switch with the nephews. We were playing, Yelena and I, and the two boys were playing four player Mario Kart. Oh, how was that on the tv? It was fun. [00:12:07] Speaker B: It's hectic. [00:12:07] Speaker A: It was fun. It was actually great because my nephew Vaughn, who's been on the show for a small amount of time, quite confident, he said, I've never lost Mario Kart. I always come first. And Yelena was beating him every race, so. Yep. [00:12:27] Speaker B: Put him back in his place. [00:12:28] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:12:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Nice. [00:12:32] Speaker A: But, yeah, otherwise a good weekend. Not a lot of photography. I took the Q3 up there and took a couple of photos, but otherwise it kind of just. Yeah, it's sat in the back. Yelena used her new OM system TG7. She was testing that out in the boat, taking photos of the kids with the zoom lens and then just. Also just cruising around. So. [00:12:52] Speaker B: Nice. [00:12:52] Speaker A: Yeah. She's getting used to remembering to take it with her wherever she goes. So it's ready to go. [00:12:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:59] Speaker A: But I'll be keen to look through those photos and see what they look like. [00:13:03] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, that sounds cool. Very cool. Well, should we have a. Should we say hello to the chat and see what the chat's been up to? [00:13:11] Speaker A: We should. There's a few in here. Lucinda was here first. Hey, gang. Hope the Easter Bunny visited. Kind of. Yeah. [00:13:17] Speaker B: Yeah, sort of. [00:13:18] Speaker A: Did the Easter Bunny. No, not you. No. [00:13:20] Speaker B: Although I thought I'd. I said, because I texted you today, we're having a conversation. I said, I've managed to stay away from all chocolate eggs. [00:13:27] Speaker A: Impressive sesh. [00:13:29] Speaker B: Reminded me after that, that last night when she came to bed, she had been given eggs by someone I don't know where from. Oh, she was at an event anyway. And she fed me a chocolate Easter egg while I was half asleep, so. And I hear you. I was trying to avoid it. [00:13:47] Speaker A: You're snoring with your mouth open. She's Just popped one in there. Yeah. [00:13:52] Speaker B: Yeah, kind of. [00:13:53] Speaker A: She tricked you. [00:13:54] Speaker B: Yep, she did. [00:13:55] Speaker A: Damn. Well, it's still. Still pretty good. Pretty impressive. [00:13:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:14:00] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. So Yelena's coming here. Oh, hang on, let me get through all the comments. Philip Johnson is here. It says, evening, happy Easter and greetings early birds. Rick Nelson. Yeah, the time has changed. Rick Nelson says. Good evening, everyone. The channel. The channel change. Are we on a different channel? Are we on the wrong channel? [00:14:18] Speaker B: Are we on lucky? We are. You do. [00:14:23] Speaker A: It's not good. How did this happen? Oh, and I can't change it. Oh, no. [00:14:31] Speaker B: Why don't you put up. Oh, no, that won't help. [00:14:33] Speaker A: I don't think this will work. I'll see if it works. Oh, dear. I'll just. I'll upload it tomorrow. Gosh, the poor people. We'll see if that works. If. If we are now live on the camera life, let us know we're sorry. No wonder our viewers are a bit lower than normal. Yeah, on the lucky. We're on the Lucky Straps channel. I'll re. Upload it tomorrow. Yeah, Sorry, folks, if you're just joining us, I had the wrong channel selected and Rick Nelson alerted us to that fact now. So there we are. What else? John Pickett says, evening all. Currently culling 7900 motorbike photos and then have to edit the selected images. Rough. [00:15:19] Speaker B: That's a big job. [00:15:20] Speaker A: That is a big job. Yeah. You just got to go fast. Oh, dear. Anyway, good luck. It'll be interesting to. I want to hear at some point, how many did you end up selecting and have to edit? Yeah, because based on that, that would be for me. Yeah, it would definitely be in the 300 range if it was culling really hard. But if it was for a lot of competitors, it would be in the 800 to 1000 range if I was including lots of photos for each competitors. So. Yeah, let me know. Okay, now it's. Now it's happening. More people are coming into the chat. Okay, good. We've. We've found we're live. What have we done? That's all right. We'll fix it. [00:16:05] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a public holiday. You only get. It's a public holiday capable of. [00:16:09] Speaker A: That's right. You've missed. Sorry. And. Yeah, sorry, Nathan. I'll. I'll upload this to the chat. I'll upload your intro to the channel tomorrow to boost it out there a bit better. [00:16:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:19] Speaker A: What have we done? Oh, no. Yes, Lucinda, you can be in both chats at once. [00:16:28] Speaker B: Why not. [00:16:30] Speaker A: What else? Elena says the TG7 has a slow zoom. That's what she's having trouble getting used to. It's got like a Handycam speed zoom. So you want to zoom that. And it's just like, takes a long time to change focal lengths. [00:16:44] Speaker B: So, yeah, [00:16:48] Speaker A: Mario Kart nights are the best. What else? [00:16:50] Speaker B: Yeah, [00:16:54] Speaker A: Paul's here and Dennis is here. Couldn't find the video on the channel and felt sick and here we are. Yeah, look, I understand. It was my problem. Cats. And Alan Bogan's here. G'. Day. [00:17:04] Speaker B: Hey. [00:17:05] Speaker A: Right. Okay. I'll never make this. [00:17:07] Speaker B: That's 100. [00:17:08] Speaker A: 170 episodes. It's the first time I've. I've the wrong channel. [00:17:12] Speaker B: It's not bad. That's why I couldn't find the YouTube today. Remember how I texted you, hey, can you upload the YouTube? And you said, I've already done it. Well, not to the right place. [00:17:21] Speaker A: Well, I had, but not to the right place. Yeah, it was a mix up. Gosh. [00:17:25] Speaker B: That's all right. We'll let you off this time. [00:17:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Public holiday problems. [00:17:29] Speaker B: Yeah, well, yeah. [00:17:30] Speaker A: Can't win them all. [00:17:31] Speaker B: No, you can't. All right, well, look, should we. Should we make a start on the show proper? [00:17:38] Speaker A: We should. We should What? Get into the news? [00:17:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:42] Speaker A: Okay, let's do it. That's that one. [00:17:50] Speaker B: Okay, so before we get into the news, there's not a lot of news. There's a couple of cheeky April Fool's Day posts that went out. We'll share those with you guys in a minute. But can we start with some of the social media posts, please? [00:18:03] Speaker A: Yeah, we'll save the. Yeah, we'll save the NASA stuff for later. Yeah, we'll do that. What's. Oh, yeah, the Polaroid one. [00:18:10] Speaker B: Yeah, the Polaroid had. This is crazy good. [00:18:14] Speaker A: All right, where are we? There we go. Loading. Do we need sound? [00:18:26] Speaker B: I don't know. Can't remember [00:18:29] Speaker A: what's happening. Look at that. [00:18:37] Speaker B: Yeah, it's nice. [00:18:38] Speaker A: That is nice. [00:18:39] Speaker B: I just thought it was a really cool ad. Like, it's. It's weird and it's really minimal. And it's a bit sci fi, isn't. [00:18:48] Speaker A: Is a bit. [00:18:50] Speaker B: It's a cool ad. [00:18:51] Speaker A: I like it changing colors at the end. It is a cool ad. Would you buy a Polaroid Flip? [00:18:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I probably would one day. [00:18:58] Speaker A: Just because of the sort of the shape and the quirky look. [00:19:01] Speaker B: And the white one looks really nice, doesn't it? That one? Yeah, I like the white, orange, and black better than the all black. It does. Rick Nelson says. Feels like an apple ad. That's what I thought when I first saw it. [00:19:13] Speaker A: Is it because there's an apple in it? [00:19:15] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, let's go to the next one. [00:19:23] Speaker A: Okay. [00:19:24] Speaker B: I found this one for you. Large format dog photography. [00:19:31] Speaker A: I'm keen to see it. That's a regular dog. [00:19:36] Speaker B: Yeah, it's not a large format dog. [00:19:38] Speaker A: It's not a large format dog camera, you noodle. Oh, okay. Makes more sense. Oh, look at that. [00:19:49] Speaker B: Yeah, [00:19:52] Speaker A: they'd be powerful lights too, wouldn't they? [00:19:55] Speaker B: They look like it. [00:19:59] Speaker A: That's very cool. What a well behaved dog as well. [00:20:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:07] Speaker A: Wow. [00:20:09] Speaker B: There's the magic. How cool is that? [00:20:13] Speaker A: That's awesome. [00:20:17] Speaker B: Isn't that beautiful? Look at the detail. [00:20:19] Speaker A: Yeah, that is amazing. [00:20:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:24] Speaker A: The magic of photography. [00:20:26] Speaker B: I thought you'd love that. Next up, another quick bite. Just a little clip I found of someone comparing a 35 millimeter film to IMAX film, which I think is 70 something, isn't it? 70? Is it on the vertical? 70 mils? [00:20:44] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:20:45] Speaker B: Might be wrong. We need Alex Kern. She'll know. Look at the difference. [00:20:49] Speaker A: Is it really that much bigger? [00:20:51] Speaker B: Yeah, it's huge. When they bring them in, they bring them in on these into, into like projection projector rooms. They bring them on a pallet with a forklift because they're so massive and so heavy. Especially for like feature. Feature length films. [00:21:05] Speaker A: I've never seen that comparison before. That's crazy, that difference. Yeah, yeah. Wow. [00:21:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Bruce says. Yeah, IMAX is 70. [00:21:17] Speaker A: Wow. [00:21:17] Speaker B: So. [00:21:17] Speaker A: Yeah, [00:21:21] Speaker B: and the cost. It shows the cost. I can't see it from here, but I think it's 3,000aminute. [00:21:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:21:26] Speaker B: 3,000 IMAX film. [00:21:30] Speaker A: Yeah. Dennis says. Yeah. Boy, interstellar. Go find behind the scenes of Nolan shooting with the camera. It's huge. Yeah. Tomorrow. [00:21:40] Speaker B: Yeah. Anyway, I thought that'd be interesting. And while we're on the theme of film, the very final social post that I found this morning, which I thought was fun and worth sharing for you intrepid travelers. It's a car trunk or as we call it, a boot film lab. Yeah. He's converted like a, you know, a sealed travel case. [00:22:05] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:22:07] Speaker B: He's got power bank in the back. Yep. [00:22:12] Speaker A: Looks like he's. I mean, shouldn't say this on YouTube. Looks like a bomb or something. Looks, looks concerning, you know. [00:22:19] Speaker B: Yeah. If you got pulled over, you have to be pretty. [00:22:21] Speaker A: Yeah. You're like, no, no, I'm just developing film, Officer. [00:22:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Actually that reminds me, years ago I went for A sleep test. And I had to go into a clinic to get fitted with this. It's like a vest that has, like, a little computer thing that sits on the chest, and then there's electrodes everywhere. And they said, show up in your jammies and bring like, a beanie or something so we can cover the ones on your head. And then as I was leaving, the doctor called out and said, hey, this is advice we give to every patient that leaves here. Should you get pulled over, explain to the police very carefully why you're wired up, because it looks like a bomb vest. [00:22:58] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [00:22:59] Speaker B: Yeah. But how crazy is that? [00:23:02] Speaker A: Yeah, I've had one of those tests, but it wasn't. It wasn't as vesty. It was more like electrodes everywhere. Like, there was no vest, I don't think. I don't know. It's different. No vest. And it was actually in home. They just came here and did it. [00:23:16] Speaker B: Oh, well, sorry, we're not fancy like you. [00:23:19] Speaker A: No, it wasn't fancy at all. It was almost the other way. It was a little bit. Were just like, no, no, we'll just [00:23:24] Speaker B: come to your place. [00:23:24] Speaker A: And then she just rocked up and stuck some things on my head and stuff. And then we even said, good night. Yeah, yeah. She's like, nighty night. And then, you know, be back in the morning. Yeah. You know, I just. Yeah, I just drop it back the next day. And then they figure out and they're like, yeah, no, you. You're not good at sleeping. And that was that. Yeah. Rick Nelson says they could develop while driving home from the shoot. It is clever. It's a good way to speed up your workflow. [00:23:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:53] Speaker A: Get it developed on the way back. [00:23:55] Speaker B: It's pretty cool. [00:23:56] Speaker A: It is pretty cool. [00:23:58] Speaker B: It makes me think of, like, Alex Frain, who. He does all of his. Just with a dark bag in his hotel room when he's traveling. When he was in America traveling for. To capture all that content for his exhibition, he was just doing it in his. In the hotel sink. [00:24:13] Speaker A: Yeah. Pretty crazy. Yeah, that's pretty crazy. Like, even just traveling with film seems like such an effort, let alone traveling with dev chemicals and stuff and your film and doing it all on the road. That's. [00:24:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:26] Speaker A: It seems like a lot of work. [00:24:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. Dedication, Justin. Dedication. [00:24:33] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't have it. [00:24:35] Speaker B: Should we look at some April Fool's news articles? [00:24:38] Speaker A: Yes. Okay. I'm keen for this first one because I can't even. Hang on. Tell me about it. I'll bring it up. This. I Say this every show. I know I say it every show, but these ads just. Have a. Have a look at this website. I know. It is getting out of control. It's not even a website anymore. [00:24:59] Speaker B: It looks legit. I'm sure it was for a moment. [00:25:04] Speaker A: Tell us about it. What is it? [00:25:06] Speaker B: Well, it's a full frame full frame smartphone. Full frame E mount smartphone. [00:25:14] Speaker A: Yep. [00:25:16] Speaker B: Oh, the specs have gone because I've taken the site down. [00:25:21] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, they have. They've taken the specs off. [00:25:23] Speaker B: Yeah, they have. Anyway, bit of fun. [00:25:26] Speaker A: Funny. Yeah, that's a good. That's a good gag. Yeah, you know. Oh, did you see. You know the one that got me for just for a second was OG Fop. Did you see that? [00:25:42] Speaker B: No. [00:25:43] Speaker A: Yeah. OG Fop. You didn't see it? [00:25:45] Speaker B: No. What's OG Fop? [00:25:48] Speaker A: Where is it? Where is it? I don't even remember where it was put. Yeah, here we go. Here we go. Dun dun dun. Brandon waits. Coming in 2027. OG FOP, the Ocean Festival of Photography, 12 months from today. Save the date. [00:26:16] Speaker B: Do you know, I saw that and thought, oh, that's interesting. I wonder how that will go. And then just scroll past it. Didn't think for a second that it was April Fools. [00:26:24] Speaker A: Yeah. I was like, cool logo. Yeah, cool logo. And then I was like, 12 months from today. I'll have to have a look and see. I wonder what it'll be like. This is really interesting. And then like nine seconds later I was like, I'm an idiot. Yep. Well, yeah, it's pretty cheeky, Brendan. It was a good. It was a good one. It was a good one. [00:26:52] Speaker B: Just one, one more. The Surui is the Sarui. April Fool's gag. They. They went to the next level. They are offering for April 1st only a 0 millimeter f 0.95 autofocus, full frame anamorphic lens. Oh, that's capture. Capture. [00:27:11] Speaker A: Everything had to be anamorphic too. Yeah, just, you know, it was the style at the time. Yeah, Yeah, I remember that one. There's some good gags. It's a good time of the year. [00:27:23] Speaker B: Yeah, a bit of fun. A lot of dark news flooding our, our socials and web spaces at the moment. So it's kind of fun to see some of this stuff. [00:27:31] Speaker A: Good to lighten up everything, I guess. The thing is, though, as a, as a business, you certainly don't want to release any new products on April Fool's Day with, you know, because everyone's just going to be like, oh, yeah, nice one. Good gag. No, no, Seriously, it's a new lens. It's really cool. [00:27:49] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it's real. It's actually real. There was a couple of others on Petapixel. Collated a few of them. [00:27:57] Speaker A: Oh yeah. [00:27:58] Speaker B: And some of them looked impressive. Makey Mika. Not sure how you pronounce it. M E I K E offered a amazing air series on the 1st of April. And their lenses that are like crystal, you can see through them, but the whole lens, I mean not just through the optics. You can look through the barrel. Yeah, they did that one. Viltrox did a. Like a weird cine camera mock up. [00:28:32] Speaker A: Yeah, there's always. There's always a few. I didn't see anything too crazy this year. None. That really blew my mind. Yeah, I think it's become almost a little bit of a. It's like you just throw it to the. The social media team of the company and say we better do a post, you know, like just come up with something. But it kind of used to be a bit more. I don't know, like the people that did it really threw something crazy out there. [00:28:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:58] Speaker A: Like although last week. Oh, which, which one? [00:29:05] Speaker B: Oh, when his team did the moon one. [00:29:08] Speaker A: The moon one, yeah. Yeah. That was pretty good. [00:29:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:14] Speaker A: Yeah. I remember Flow, the mountain bike publication that I shoot for. I'm pretty sure it was them. They said they had one that they posted one year. So with mountain bikes there's always this. Similar to cameras. I'm sure there's a trade off between. You want wider handlebars for better control, but narrower handlebars to get through trees quicker without hitting trees. So there's always this kind of talk about what width handlebars are you running, you know, and different people have different preferences. So they on April Fools had posted. I'm pretty sure it was them. Like extendable handlebars so you can like push them in through the trees and then pop them out when you, you know, want more control. And yeah, that caused a stir, I bet. Okay, [00:30:05] Speaker B: there you go. That's the news. There was nothing really newsworthy. There was. Well, there was some rumors about a new Sony A7R6 specs. [00:30:15] Speaker A: Yeah. Was that. Was that a. He's April Fools? [00:30:19] Speaker B: No. I don't know. I don't think so. [00:30:22] Speaker A: Let's, let's. Shall we investigate? Let's do a little live investigation. Let's investigate. Because I saw that because I know Froknow's photo was talking about that, but he was also talking about some other stuff that was April Foolsy and I was like, well, I don't know what the deal is. Is it. Is this an April Fool's rumor? There was talk of it being April Fools because they said it was 67 megapixels. So you know that thing the kids do 66767, whatever the hell that means. And so no one knows. The kids will say, oh, you know, you're a fool because you don't know. But then you're like, do you know? And they're like, yeah, well explain it to me. And they say, no, I don't want to. You're like, all right, stupid kids. Okay, let's pull this up. Let's. [00:31:12] Speaker B: But this came out on the third. Well, this article's the third of April wasn't the first. [00:31:17] Speaker A: This is the one I've got up on the screen now. Exclusive new 67 megapixel Sony A7R6 coming in May. Well, the interesting thing is I'm sure Froknow's photo put his out with this in it on the 1st of April, his video. And then this article come after that and I'm like, I don't know. Because they're saying the camera will ship in May, but announcement date still unclear. Might even be April. One more thing. All three trusted sources hear about two more cameras coming soon after. I'm working on these details right now. Hope to be able to have more details soon, but if confirmed, the next two cameras are quite exciting. And then back to the A7R6. I have no other reliable info to share. I got a spec list from an unknown source that I'm going to share here. But please keep in mind this could be wrong and it's not yet confirmed. [00:32:12] Speaker B: I sent it in exactly. [00:32:15] Speaker A: But just for fun, shall we read out the spec list? [00:32:18] Speaker B: Let's have a look at what it's got. [00:32:20] Speaker A: Bionz XR2 with high bandwidth LSI and 67 Mixel Mixel megapixel Xmore RS stacked CMOS sensor. Non partially stacked. So they're saying it's going to be a fully stacked 67 megapixel sensor which should make it very, very fast. Which is weird because the A9 series is the very, very fast series and then the A12, the A1 series is their fast and high megapixel series. So why would they put a fast and high megapixel sensor into the A7R which is just the high megapixel slow line? I don't know. [00:33:03] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:33:04] Speaker A: Like 30 frames per second, 14 bit continuous shooting at 67 megapixel. I don't know. Yeah. [00:33:14] Speaker B: It all sounds a bit. A bit iffy. [00:33:16] Speaker A: Sounds a little bit like hopefulness. I would be more likely to believe if. That if they said it's going to be an 80 megapixel sensor, but still kind of slow for this line, that would make more sense to me. Like we want to stay ahead of the game. [00:33:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:32] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:33:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:34] Speaker A: Philip Johnson says supposedly Sony has registered. Registered it, believe it or not. Yeah. I mean it's probably very likely something is coming. I just. I just don't know whether it could have these specs. Bruce Mo says the R is also their biggest dynamic range camera. And this says it will have 16 stops of dynamic range in mechanical shutter via DCG HDR. Also 10k oversampling, 8k, 30p full frame, 6.4k over sampling. Something, something, something. Lots of video specs and a 9.44 million. OLED EVF, which if anyone doesn't know what that means, that's at the level of the floor. Flagship Fujifilm GFX and the canon R1. And I don't know if any of Sony's. Maybe Sony's A one mark. Yeah. Might have something at that level, but that's a. That's a very high level viewfinder. [00:34:38] Speaker B: Yeah. So, yeah, it's gonna be pricey if that's what it is. [00:34:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Rick Nelson is onto it. He knows one fact. Whenever it comes out, it will be called the A7R6. Yes. I would put money on that. Yep. [00:34:55] Speaker B: Good call, Rick. Good call. [00:34:57] Speaker A: You should have a rumors site. [00:34:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:00] Speaker A: The new podcast. The next camera after the canon R5 Mark II will be the R5 Mark III. The rest is unknown. Yeah. There wasn't much else in the news. The DJI Osmo Pocket 4 has been released in China, but nowhere else yet. We've got. Which is interesting. It's actually for sale in China, but nowhere else. What else? I think GoPro's teasing a new camera, like ramping up for a new GoPro hero with a new generation processor. They've already said the processor is coming, the GP3, but they haven't released the actual camera. [00:35:39] Speaker B: What else do you reckon that they aren't releasing the new DJI outside of China because of what's going on with shipping and cost of fuel to ship stuff because of the war. Reckon they've sort of held off on that. Or do you think it was a planned strategy to like. Let's just do this in this region and see how it sticks [00:36:02] Speaker A: That's. [00:36:03] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:36:03] Speaker A: It's a great question. Maybe like stock was taking longer to get stock made so they decided to launch it in China for, you know, like as stock arrives, they could build it up for the rest of the world. Yeah. It could have been something in there. Yeah, maybe. I don't know if they have different stock for different regions in terms of like different packaging. They would, wouldn't they? They would have different languages on the. I'm not sure. But if they do, maybe they ran out. They might have ran out of pocket threes in China before. They've ran them out in other, you know, they're still selling through pocket threes in other parts of the world. So they don't, they don't release the four when the three is still there. But our senior correspondent from the camera industry, Rick Nelson, says no, DJI launches in China first and since we have Internet, we need only watch China to see what's coming from them. Yeah, but why, why, why first in China? Is it just test market, maybe? Test market for price or something like that or. [00:37:09] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:37:10] Speaker A: It's interesting. Instead of doing a worldwide launch. [00:37:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:17] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't think there was anything else in the news. [00:37:20] Speaker B: No, it's pretty quiet and I think people, you know, not just here in Australia, but obviously in other countries where Easter is recognized, at least the public holidays are. It's just probably not a good time for a lease product. People are away, people are doing other things. I don't know. [00:37:37] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, there was, there was this final one. I saw this. I didn't actually read much about it. Tyfok announced. How do you pronounce it? Typoc. Thai Pock. [00:37:55] Speaker B: Yeah. I say Taipok. [00:37:57] Speaker A: Okay. Announced an AI camera and it might not be a joke, blah, blah, blah, mixed in with the goofy funny product. Jokes like ISO zero film and a helium filled camera backpack that weighs nothing. This camera idea seems like it might not be a joke at all. Okay. I don't know. It says AI integrated global shutter, APS C sensor, 16 bit raw. Available in three finishes, including transparent. [00:38:32] Speaker B: That's got to be a joke, surely. [00:38:35] Speaker A: I don't know. [00:38:36] Speaker B: Wouldn't look like that at all. There'd be circuit boards everywhere. [00:38:40] Speaker A: I guess so. 32 mil F 2.8. Yeah. I don't know. [00:38:50] Speaker B: It doesn't look real. [00:38:52] Speaker A: Well, it could just be. Yeah. It says styles are generated based on a. Yeah. Oh, no. Anyway, Petapixel I trust, I trust their reportage. So it might not be a Joke. But it also might be. We'll keep, we'll keep an eye on it. [00:39:09] Speaker B: Yeah, we'll let you know. In other news, I've always wanted to say that. In other news, we put a bunch of people into a giant petrol fueled rocket and shot them into space. And they took cameras. [00:39:28] Speaker A: They actually took cameras. They did, yeah. Let me. Let's go to our next segment which I've titled Photography is Back. I've been so excited to see the photos getting beamed down from the allegedly astronauts in their alleged shuttle or the sound stage, depending on what you think is happening. I've. I've been legitimately excited to see the images taken by the astronauts aboard the Artemis 2 moon mission. I think it's really cool. It feels like photography is having a, a peak moment as part of this huge, big mission because people are actually keen to see the images that are coming. Not just endless, you know, clips and videos and all sorts of stuff. It's like one photo will come back and everyone, all the news channels are like, publications are putting this one photo out and showing the world. I just reckon that's really cool. [00:40:32] Speaker B: It's getting a lot of attention, which is great because like I said earlier, there's a lot of dark going on in the world right now. But yeah, I've been looking through clips and images all day of, you know, people setting up at the launch site and getting special permission to put their cameras, like specially encased cameras closer and closer and closer to the launch pad. And just seeing some of the images, more video than anything. But some of the stuff that's coming out is just absolutely beautiful. And in fact, Netflix, I believe, is going to live stream the flyby of the back of the moon. Are they from Artemis? Yeah, apparently. Yep. [00:41:12] Speaker A: Well, they have been like NASA's running a live stream constantly, which is really cool. But. Wow. So they're going to put it on Netflix. [00:41:22] Speaker B: Yeah, apparently I've been seeing ads for it all day. I mean, it's great. It's huge. It's the first time we put people in a rocket to actually go do something scientificy rather than just tourism, you know, billionaire tourism and. Yeah, and this is a big step, you know, and you know, it's interesting because we didn't grow up with the whole Apollo era. I grew up in sort of the space shuttle era. You were probably too young for Space Shuttle. [00:41:49] Speaker A: When I was in school, it was a big thing, you know, like we'd have space shuttle toys and things like that. But it was kind of coming to the conclusion of it. But it was still a big thing as a kid because. Because it was like that was the peak technology, I guess at that point. But then it kind of just wound down. [00:42:10] Speaker B: Yep, it did, it did. But this is pretty cool. [00:42:15] Speaker A: It is. We'll look at some of the images. Dennis Smith says they have a D5 on board. A Nikon D5. That's correct. And I got some extra information from David Mascara from San Francisco that says a friend has sent this to me because he knows I'm a Nikonian and his wife is a NASA writer. Smart couple. Basically. He sent this section here that says NASA selected the Nikon D5 as a primary camera for Artemis 2 because it is a proven, reliable and flight qualified DSLR designed to handle intense radiation, high contrast lighting and extreme thermal constraints of deep space, making it safer for critical missions than newer untested technology. And I actually had a Nikon D5 and it's one of my favorite cameras that I've owned. Took beautiful images, not at all like a potato as Dennis is suggesting. He reckons they have a GFX tucked away for the real shots. And yeah, I think, I think it's a, it's a really cool camera. It is interesting that they're not using, you know, the peak technology in photography. They're using something that's a little bit older. They've, it's probably been through their processes a while ago and it was like, hey, we don't need to, we don't need to redo all this. Just have the latest and greatest camera. We just want something that's rock solid, reliable, tested, proven. But this Petapixel article just all Petapixel tonight says a Nikon Z9 made it aboard the Artemis Moon Moon mission at the last minute, which I think is interesting. Was always planned to bring just the Nikon D5 but last minute requests by the crew helped get a Z9 aboard before it launched into space. So I'm really interested. It says Commander Reed Wiseman who, who's been taking a lot of the shots that we'll pull up in a second. Yeah. Ahead of yesterday's launch, successfully fought to have a single Nikon Z9 added to Artemis 2's manifest. That's the camera they'll be using, the crew will be using on Artemis 3 plus. So we're fighting really hard to get it on the vehicle to test out in a high radiation environment in deep space. So yeah, that's pretty cool. So they're already planning ahead for the future by taking it up to test. The Nikon D5 is great in low light and great for optical viewing of the lunar surface with our long lens. Yeah. So what lens did you say you'd saw somewhere that they taken a longer lens? [00:45:05] Speaker B: Yeah, I read somebody, they were taking a 100 or 400, but that I might have. That might have just been an Instagram post by a noob. [00:45:17] Speaker A: We'll see if we can find it. But because there's not a lot of. Where are we. Let me bring up the photos that I found. So this is the. This is on the NASA.gov website in the gallery Journey to the Moon and there's a ton of images. It looks like you can even download and image credit NASA. But there you can see the moon through a window. [00:45:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:45] Speaker A: Pretty crazy. [00:45:47] Speaker B: Here we go. According to. Where's this from Anyway, with the D5, they're taking a 14 to 24 and a 80 to 400. [00:46:01] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah, I guess the 80 to 4 hundreds for stuff like this. [00:46:07] Speaker B: Yep. [00:46:13] Speaker A: Bruce Moyle says why bother when you can write a prompt? Would have saved a heap of money. [00:46:18] Speaker B: Probably would have. [00:46:19] Speaker A: Bruce. [00:46:22] Speaker B: Excuse me. [00:46:24] Speaker A: Yeah. And I guess, I mean, I don't know what this would have been taken with. I'm not 100% sure if it's. But yeah, if. If that was the 14 to 24. But it could also be an iPhone. No idea. [00:46:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:35] Speaker A: What's he got in his hand there? [00:46:37] Speaker B: An iPhone. [00:46:38] Speaker A: IPhone, I think. [00:46:40] Speaker B: I think he's photographing him, isn't he? [00:46:42] Speaker A: Yeah, that's probably what they're filming with. I mean it might not be an iPhone. Could be a something. But. Yeah. How cool are some of these shots? [00:46:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:59] Speaker A: So awesome. It's just. Yeah. I don't know. I was seeing this, I think some of the ones that I saw. My brother in law showed me this one specifically, which is of the capsule. [00:47:09] Speaker B: Hang on. Isn't your brother in law a conspiracy theorist? [00:47:13] Speaker A: No, he's in your family. No, he's the anti conspiracy theorist. He's the one that when I say that the original moon landing was fake, he's like has tons of evidence to bring up that it could not definitely not have been faked. And it's great fun. It's really fun. He's a pilot, not a, you know, not a 11 Barrett pilot. He's like a Cessna for fun pilot. [00:47:38] Speaker B: Yep. So he knows that the earth isn't flat. [00:47:42] Speaker A: He believes it's not flat. See how easy it is? Whenever he mentions anything, I just say allegedly. And he's like, it's anyway. Yeah, I just, I love these images and I love that that they're getting published all over the world and people are stopping and sharing them with each other and it's captured a bunch of the world's attention. And the one that was, I think there was this one someone had published the exposure details of. I think it was a sixth of a second at quite a high ISO and it is, it's very dark, but it's actually the dark side of Earth. [00:48:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:31] Speaker A: And yeah, that, that brought a lot of speculation. People saying how could it, you know, how could that possibly be those exposure settings. It doesn't make any sense. But if it's, if it's the dark side of Earth, it does make sense. It's pretty noisy. [00:48:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:46] Speaker A: Yeah. Still, Bruce Moore says let's not play with the F heads that believe that nonsense. Nonsense. They'll think you are not joking. Yeah, I'm not joking. [00:49:01] Speaker B: I've been to his house. It's like, you know when you go in the door and people hang their coats. Justin hangs his tinfoil hat [00:49:08] Speaker A: on my tinfoil hat rack. Yeah. I love these shots but they are, they are very noisy. You wouldn't know what they're all taken off. All right, what else we got? Rick Nelson says, can you imagine being the one deciding the lenses to bring? Yes, yes I can. And it would be, it would occupy my brain for almost every moment leading up to the mission because they have [00:49:36] Speaker B: pretty serious weight restrictions and size restrictions and the sort of materials you can take and personal effects is like this box. They can each take personal effects, but it's like, it's like a box the size that a MacBook Pro comes in. That's it. You know, it's just that sort of flat box. That's it full of personal stuff. So everything has to be accounted for. [00:50:01] Speaker A: The tennis says it has to be said. Being a video guy, the live footage of the launch on the NASA feed was literally comical. I haven't actually watched that yet. Yeah, I've seen a heap of images. [00:50:17] Speaker B: Someone did, did a close up of not close clip they used obviously used a big zoom but there was a video of and it was basically just focusing on the bottom like quarter of the rocket as all of the, you could see the liquid coming out and becoming flame and yeah, let me try. Phenomenal slow motion kind of shot. [00:50:37] Speaker A: Let me try and find it. I, I found that that, that was an amazing. [00:50:42] Speaker B: Yeah, I watched that 20 times. [00:50:45] Speaker A: Oh sorry that you told me a video. I, I, There was a video a Photo of that, that sort of same thing. And it was just. Here we go. Also on Petapixel, I do pay them for a subscription to bring all this stuff up. So it's not much. I think it's like $3 a year. But we try and support how we can because they do. I think they do. Good news. And if you pay them, there's no ads, which is nice. This, this shot from photographer Steven Maddow. I really liked that. Yeah, that one's crazy. [00:51:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Not amazing. [00:51:24] Speaker A: Yeah, he said. I think he said he had to. This, this photographer had to set his cameras up four days in advance and he also couldn't. This is him here at the launch site. They get one tripod each, so they can put multiple cameras on one tripod. But I don't think they can have multiple tripods because obviously there'd be a million photographers trying to get credentials and stuff to do this. [00:51:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:49] Speaker A: And they obviously have very limited amount of people they'll let do it. But he has to do it in advance and he needs to have it set up so that it could happen at any time of day. Because the, the launches get delayed. Yeah. And he can't just come in and change his exposure setting or whatever. It's got to be. [00:52:06] Speaker B: But how is he powering them? [00:52:08] Speaker A: I think they've all got like battery packs and all sorts of stuff. And then they've got this crazy trigger. A crazy trigger that works on sound. So at a certain decibel level it just starts firing. Wow. It's. It's quite amazing. I'd love to see a behind the scenes or something. But. Yeah, this article, if you go to Petapixel, how a photographer captured the Artemis ii launch with 14 cameras. It's got a great write up of how it was done. [00:52:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:36] Speaker A: This guy, this Steve Maddow, has been doing it for a very, very long time. And it was. It says here the people were bussed to the site last Sunday to set up their cameras. They had plenty of time to dial everything in. But some launches only give photographers 10 to 15 minutes to set their gear up and they gotta leave again, which. That would be quite stressful. And here's a shot of his set up two cameras on one tripod in these special housings. So, yeah, it's got his name on it and a cool little sticker. [00:53:13] Speaker B: How would you even. Where do you get these things? Like, I guess if, if you do this all the time, you'd. You'd have them made, I imagine. I don't Think, could you? [00:53:21] Speaker A: Yeah, I think these sort of cases, the cases. Special remote camera cases made by camtraptions and a. Triggered by sound. Yeah. Quite amazing. But yeah, this shot, this was the one that, that captured my attention so much. It's just so much power. [00:53:39] Speaker B: Yeah. Because the clarity of the images now compared to like we're talking about earlier, the space shuttle launches, you know, the amount of detail we're getting now is just insane. We've never seen it this detailed before. [00:53:51] Speaker A: Yeah. Completely different. [00:53:53] Speaker B: Yeah. And it's exciting, it's fun, it's, you know, people are looking up again a [00:54:02] Speaker A: bit, it's a bit wondrous, you know, like anything could happen. I was looking at these things in the shop and I, I, I asked my brother in law about these cable car things and he said he thinks they would be for people to evacuate if something was going wrong. [00:54:16] Speaker B: They are, they're, they're like a. They start at the top and then so they technically can get out quickly into the cage and the cage just shoots them down to the ground like quite a distance away. There was another shot where the, where they were sort of hanging off the edge. That's it there. See them there? Yeah. So they're going lower again. So I think they gradually, once the launch happens and there's no escape, I think they get out of the way kind of thing. Yes. [00:54:47] Speaker A: As in. Because at that point there's no evacuating anyway. So they've got to move them away so they don't probably don't blast them apart or something. [00:54:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:54:57] Speaker A: Amazing photography all around from the, the crew and all the. Yeah. Look at this. Just. Yeah, just look at that. Looks like an explosion. Kind of is, I guess. Yeah. It is so amazing. Yeah. Wow. Anyway, I'm digging it. It's been a fun week for photography. [00:55:23] Speaker B: Yep. [00:55:24] Speaker A: Let's see what the chat has to say because Yelena says. Good to see so many names in the chat. I've been on Lucky's live feed. Less of us over there. Yeah, sorry, sorry again about the mix up. I'm glad we've got it sorted. I'll have to re upload the show tomorrow somehow. [00:55:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:43] Speaker A: What else is being said here? [00:55:46] Speaker B: Bruce just said nice to have a happy rocket for once in the news. [00:55:51] Speaker A: Exactly. A rocket for. Just completely fun. Not nefarious at all. [00:55:57] Speaker B: Yep. [00:55:58] Speaker A: Oh, this is a good one. Seymour Bush says no crater camera than a Nikon. I see what you did there. I see. [00:56:05] Speaker B: I bet he's been working on that all week. [00:56:07] Speaker A: That's right. Philip Johnson says who left the SD cards at home. Yeah, yeah. Imagine. Imagine if they forgot the memory card, the battery charger. [00:56:20] Speaker B: Yep. [00:56:22] Speaker A: David Skinner says. So the photo of the dark side of the Earth, where has the light come from? Reflected off the moon is my guess. As in just a little bit of light on the back side of the Earth. [00:56:35] Speaker B: You can make out like a spoil. Like it's not just black. [00:56:39] Speaker A: Yeah, so. Or off the atmosphere. Yeah, I don't know if that's a thing. Maybe a space person could tell us, but I'm guessing potentially off. Yeah, either off the moon or off the. But also, yeah, off the moon would make sense because they're heading towards the moon. That would be exactly the angle it would need to act as a reflector. [00:56:59] Speaker B: Yep. [00:57:00] Speaker A: Makes sense. [00:57:01] Speaker B: It does, yeah. Like when you go skinny dipping in the moonlight. [00:57:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:57:07] Speaker B: Not that I've ever. [00:57:09] Speaker A: Sure you haven't. Dennis says the memes are great. I'll have to look some of that. Apparently they literally cut away from every key moment and missed all the key moments. There's a huge montage up now of the good stuff. I'll have to check that out. That sounds funny. [00:57:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:28] Speaker A: Paul says, I watched the live launch and NASA cut to an elderly couple videoing the launch on their phones and ended up missing the main booster separation. [00:57:37] Speaker B: That's terrible. [00:57:39] Speaker A: Oh, no, that's not good. Apparently there's a photographer a while back that has camera melted in a launch. I don't doubt that. [00:57:48] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw that one. That was. What was that? That might have been like a SpaceX. [00:57:52] Speaker A: Yeah, maybe launches. Yeah, yeah, [00:57:57] Speaker B: yeah. [00:57:57] Speaker A: You can hear. You can hear some of the rocket images. That's like. You can just imagine that. [00:58:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:06] Speaker A: What else? I think that's a bit about it. Rick Nelson, allegedly a happy rocket. [00:58:12] Speaker B: Yeah, for now. [00:58:14] Speaker A: And finally, John Pickett says they use Nikons because they're disposable. [00:58:17] Speaker B: Indeed. [00:58:21] Speaker A: Cool. All right. Very cool. Should we look at some images? [00:58:25] Speaker B: Let's look at some more images, but this time look at the. The people's images. [00:58:33] Speaker A: People's images. [00:58:34] Speaker B: People. [00:58:35] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:58:35] Speaker B: Oh, what happened to the backgrounds? Did you take it off? [00:58:37] Speaker A: I pressed the wrong button. [00:58:39] Speaker B: Okay, there it is. [00:58:40] Speaker A: This show is cursed. I give up. Message. If someone tried to call in now, what would happen? No chance. Oops. There we go. See, that's not even working. All right, let me. [00:58:54] Speaker B: Where do you want to start, actually? [00:58:56] Speaker A: Well, if you can read them out, because I've got a lot going on tonight. If you can read them out, I will. I'll pull them Up. So if you tell me the name and then start reading and I'll get it. I'll make it happen. [00:59:04] Speaker B: All right. Do you want to do mine first or mine last? [00:59:08] Speaker A: Sure, we can do yours first. Do you have a favorite? Remember, we're trying to. [00:59:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:13] Speaker A: Are we exempt. Are we exempt from the rules? [00:59:16] Speaker B: No, I do have a favorite. Let's bring up the photo of Lisa Leach. The photo I took of Lisa Leach. [00:59:27] Speaker A: I might have to. No, that's not gonna work. All right, bear with me. [00:59:31] Speaker B: It is 2330. [00:59:33] Speaker A: Oh, that's. Yeah, that's good. Oh, yeah. Come on. Computer's just being a bit slow. [00:59:44] Speaker B: And just an update From John Pickett. 529 images to edit from the culling. [00:59:50] Speaker A: Good job. [00:59:51] Speaker B: Nice. [00:59:51] Speaker A: That's a. That's a good amount. That's right. In that range of, like, less than 10%. Yeah, that's good. [00:59:59] Speaker B: Yep. So just a little bit of context behind this. Last weekend, last Saturday, I caught up with my fellow published author Lisa Leach, for a little city stroll with cameras. And so we did a bit of a street walk, and I gave us some tips and tricks. Tricks. On what street photographers get up to and, you know, what to look for and how to compose those sorts of things. And we're in AC DC Lane at the back half of it, and there was just beautiful light all day, and there was a shaft of light coming in. It was reflected off another building into this corner. And I got Lisa to stand there. I took some photos of her. Awesome. It's a good photo of her. [01:00:39] Speaker A: I love it. Good light on the face, but a background that almost, like. I don't know, not blends in. But, like, with her scarf, it sort of not blends in. I don't know what I'm trying to say. Like, it almost mirrors it in some spots. [01:00:57] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a lot going on. [01:01:00] Speaker A: Yeah, it's cool. But the face is clearly the focal point, is the brightest part of the image. It's clean. It's framed well. Well done. [01:01:07] Speaker B: Yeah, thanks. [01:01:08] Speaker A: Did you have to edit it much, or was that the. That the light that was kind of there? That. That was the light that was there. [01:01:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:01:16] Speaker B: And I just dropped my. My version of across onto it. I think I cropped it a little, but, yeah, we had a good day. [01:01:25] Speaker A: We. [01:01:25] Speaker B: Well, good couple of hours. We went and had a bite to eat, and it was a really lovely time hanging out. Can I sneak in one more? [01:01:35] Speaker A: Yeah, okay, you sneak in one more, and then I'll sneak in one. If it's not the one. I'm thinking. Which one? Which one? [01:01:40] Speaker B: The first 1. Which is 7425. No, not that one. [01:01:45] Speaker A: 7 4. [01:01:46] Speaker B: Is that 7425? [01:01:48] Speaker A: No, but it's the first one in my order of. [01:01:50] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:01:54] Speaker A: Whoops. Hang on. I'm really having trouble here. That one. [01:01:57] Speaker B: Yep. [01:01:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:02:00] Speaker B: So this was Friday night, I think, or maybe Thursday night. I can't remember now. Yeah, Just went back down to Skate. Skate park. Pran Skate park. And there was about three or four people using the half pipe. And I think they kind of got into it. Once they saw that I was taking photos, it felt like the energy level lifted a bit. But I had so much fun taking these shots. Like, it's just. It's such a challenge. I'm using a 23mil APS C, so 35mil Prime. And yeah, I'm just loving this style of work that I'm putting out. So very happy with it. And I love just sort of framing that to emphasize just fly. I'm calling this series Flight. And I love framing it to emphasize that they are literally defying gravity. Piece of plywood with some tiny wheels, you know, like, it's just bananas. [01:02:59] Speaker A: Good question by Bruce. Did they land or not? You know, sometimes it's actually an interesting thing, Greg, which. It's not relevant for your particular series, but when it comes to skateboarding itself, you. You'd never publish the picture if they didn't land the trick. Really? Yeah, yeah. It was a. It was a unwritten rule of the world. I don't know. Of the skate world. You know, you don't. If. If you didn't land the trick. The stairs, they were going something like that. You don't. You didn't publish that picture, especially not in a magazine or something like that. Like, to get. To get the covering of the magazine, they had to have stomped the trick. But it's. That's. Yeah, that's different because that's sort of for the purpose of documenting the sport, I guess. [01:03:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whereas I'm not doing that. I'm kind of. I guess I'm documenting a human achievement. [01:03:57] Speaker A: The lifestyle, the. The. [01:03:59] Speaker B: Yeah, the lifestyle, the community, all that stuff. Yeah, yeah. Can we sneak in one more? [01:04:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Which. Which one? Well, do you want me to tell you which one? I was going to sneak it. [01:04:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:11] Speaker A: Is it related to this photo? [01:04:14] Speaker B: It's 7422, black and white. [01:04:20] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I'm on it. That one. [01:04:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:04:26] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:04:27] Speaker B: I really love capturing the hand actions, even when they're not even when they're just skating around the park, the people just, they have this, this funny way of not funny. I guess how they're holding their hands is probably the last thing they're thinking of. But they all seem to have these immaculate hand poses that are just really unique to the sport. [01:04:52] Speaker A: It's a component of what we call stes. [01:04:57] Speaker B: Who's we? [01:05:00] Speaker A: What's we? People that do these kind of sports. [01:05:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:05:06] Speaker A: You'll notice and you'll probably get to notice it too, right? There'll be some riders that they have this thing called steez, some skaters in all sorts of sports like this. And you'll get to know when you watch them, if you watch these guys for long enough, you'll say, you'll be like, wow, that guy's got something special. It's the way that their body flows, the way that their limbs bend, how smooth they are. Their legs will almost look like jelly while this where they're skating. And then tricks just seem to happen effortlessly and they bend in ways that other people don't bend. And it is the way that they place their hand in that trick instead of being flailing, it's placed. It's delicate. [01:05:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:05:50] Speaker A: In the middle of a giant sort of something that's quite dangerous. [01:05:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:05:56] Speaker A: It's pretty cool. So you're honing in on that? [01:05:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm trying to capture that, you know, as much as possible. [01:06:06] Speaker A: I love it and so does everyone in the chat. Look at this. John Pickett. They're awesome. Impressive. Nice shots. Six skate pick. Absolutely sending it. Nice shot. That's the one. And that is the one. Having the second character in this one really does make it something different and it tells, I think, a much bigger story than. Yeah, that's solo. [01:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Oh, thanks guys. [01:06:28] Speaker A: Now this is purely, purely based on a thumbnail sized picture that I can squint and see on my other screen. But I wanted to see what this one is. I don't know why. There was a lot of lines and a lot of darkness and light and I was quite curious. It was drawing. [01:06:44] Speaker B: That's Anzac Station. So I went into Anzac Station from the Anzac tram stop and went under St Kilda Road and then came up next. There's like a park there and that's the elevators in the stairway that goes up to that sort of sub outlet towards the park. And I just like. Yeah, I just love the lines and the way that the couple on the escalator are caught in the light. [01:07:13] Speaker A: Yeah, it's a great composition. [01:07:16] Speaker B: I'm just trying. Yeah, I'm kind of trying to like, squish in the frame almost with darkness and lines and. Yeah, yeah, work in progress. [01:07:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it draws your eye straight to the subjects, but yeah, with a lot of different. Different angled lines, but they all leading into a similar place. Yeah, I found it interesting. [01:07:35] Speaker B: Thanks, boss. [01:07:37] Speaker A: Cool. Who have we got up first? [01:07:41] Speaker B: Well, let's see what. What flu city Johnson has managed to pull off this week. [01:07:47] Speaker A: Yeah, I've given Felicity a pass. These were from a few weeks ago leading up into the toy. Once she's actually sent in three images and I couldn't choose one because it felt like it was too hard and she didn't realize that it was just one. So anyway, here we are. All right, which one's this after the fire? [01:08:09] Speaker B: What fire? There's no mention of a fire here. Oh, here it is. Mount Hotham, taken the day before befop, showing the layers of burnt snow gums. Shot with the Nikon Z8 and a 20 foot 70. This one here is obviously drone shot. Kerrang Salt Walk Saltworks, which is a favorite haunt of felicities. I see a lot of her work from there. DJI Mini 4 Pro. [01:08:34] Speaker A: And finally. [01:08:36] Speaker B: And the last one is a robber fly taken in my veggie garden veggie patch with a Nikon Z8 and a 105 Macro and a Cygnus Tech diffuser. Holy God, that's amazing. [01:08:49] Speaker A: Yeah, these ones are always crazy when you just. You can just zoom in. [01:08:54] Speaker B: 105 is magic. [01:08:56] Speaker A: Yeah, [01:08:59] Speaker B: like, that's just jaw dropping, isn't it? It's. It's. It feels alien. [01:09:04] Speaker A: It does feel alien. [01:09:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Speaking of contiguous, I've got a very, very quick conspiracy. I think that spiders and octopus are alien species. I'm not saying that they're here. I mean that they arrived a long time ago, but they're not of Earth. Well, who needs eight legs and eight eyes? No other creature has it. So I kind of feel like it's come from somewhere else. There was no reason for spiders to have eight legs and eight eyes. [01:09:39] Speaker A: Same with octopus to eat flies. Octopus I could get on board with. That is. Yeah, that. That is a creepy sort of one. There's a lot of speculation about them being aliens. [01:09:52] Speaker B: I'm here for it. [01:09:54] Speaker A: Great shots as always, Felicity. Love the colors. I. I really want to get my drone up to some of these spots that she goes to. I need to. I need to. Felicity, just start running workshops that I can go on. Just take me up to These. Yeah, I know, that's what I mean. It'd be easy. Yeah. Just get it to drop by the [01:10:11] Speaker B: house and just keep ringing the doorbell and that old doorbell of yours until you come out with your camera. [01:10:16] Speaker A: Yeah, our doorbell's pretty funny. Yeah. And everyone's keen. Great, great shots, Felicity. But yes, we are trying to do. We're trying to move to the one photo per person or a little series, if it's a particular series you've worked on, or an A and B, you know, black and white or color, or here's the raw, here's the edit or something like that. That's what we're trying to move towards. Who we got. [01:10:41] Speaker B: Up next we've got Crackers. Greg Carrick. [01:10:45] Speaker A: Oh yeah, I know the one. [01:10:48] Speaker B: Yo, dudes. I took this back in about 1974 with an Instamatic probably. This is one of my teachers back in the Pines, Frankston North. I had a range of teachers that were gay, lesbian, anti establishment, hippie, alternative. In fact, I can't really think of one that was wasp white, Anglo Saxon, Protestant type. We all thought this was normal because at the time and place it was. Anyway, this explains why I shoot Fujifilm. How does this explain that? [01:11:16] Speaker A: I don't know at all. When I saw that come through, I was like, that's funny, but I don't know why. Wow. But it's cool. What's that? Yes. [01:11:26] Speaker B: 30. That's 52 years ago. Crackers. [01:11:31] Speaker A: I was just waiting for the end part where he said added extra grain in snapseed because that's what he usually says for all of his other shots that look old. This one actually doesn't have as much grain as what he would normally put on. Yeah. [01:11:48] Speaker B: Hey, Greg, did you go to a Montessori school? Is that why it was so alternative? Curious to know. [01:11:58] Speaker A: Hello. Samuel Markham. Good to see you. He says, hope you're both doing well. Really enjoying the show. Well, I'm glad you found it because we. We almost just had it on the wrong channel tonight. Yeah, but we got there. Awesome. Who you got up next? [01:12:14] Speaker B: John Latimer. Ah, yes. Hey guys. Happy Easter. Hope everyone had a great and safe weekend. And we do. We did. And we hope you do too. I thought I'd share in my other toy photos I took from last week. Feel free, you don't have to share them. Being a public holiday and long weekend. These are some of my other miniature paintings and the behind the scenes in painting them and photos etc. Shot with a Sony A7R III with a Sony 100 Macro Godox 863 light. Various board games as the background. Again, love the show. And Happy Easter. Oh, look at that. [01:12:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Thanks for sending all these in, John. This is a cool series with multiple, like, before and afters behind the scenes of the shots, but also these shots of the process of actually painting them, which I think is the. The painting part is mind blowing to me. I don't even know, like, do they give you. Do you know what you're going to do or do you just have to figure it out as you go? [01:13:17] Speaker B: Well, my. My youngest, Brendan, who's 15 for his birthday, got some money, or was it for Christmas, and he went to the shop where they make these or they sell these figurines and you can buy all sorts of stuff to do with that. And they hold classes in there to teach people how to paint them and, you know, where they fit into the gameplay and that sort of stuff. And when Brendan went, I think like, he went the first three sessions, he was able just to paint his own figure for free. And then they had like a starter kit. And then eventually you sort of. You graduate up the kits as your work gets more and more complex. [01:13:52] Speaker A: Right. [01:13:53] Speaker B: It was really cool, like, really clever, clever. A clever business idea because you basically, you kind of, you know, you're introducing people and giving them some good vibes so they'll come back and buy product. Warhammer Gamers Workshop. Thank you, Brucey. But, yeah, I mean, but this is just, you know, this is next. Next level. [01:14:16] Speaker A: Yeah. I love the idea of. Of though, having the skills as a photographer for the photo to be almost like part of the final form of. Of this creation, you know, like, because it's one thing to paint it and then have it sitting in your shelf or, or whatever in your. In your display cabinet, but then to create this, you know, sort of scene using the board game as. As a final finished image is really cool. Yeah, Yeah, I think it's, yeah, super fun. Well done. You've got a lot more patience and your hands obviously don't shake as much as mine do. Yeah, I agree. Dennis says these are bloody stunning shots. I agree. [01:15:03] Speaker B: Amazing. [01:15:04] Speaker A: Thanks. [01:15:04] Speaker B: It's just got character, haven't they? [01:15:06] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll be. We'll be uploading some of the toy photos from last week as clips. Yolanda's worked on some clips of each of a lot of the submissions, so we'll start uploading those as shorter clips you guys will be able to check out. So if you missed the episode, you need to go back, watch the whole episode last week. There's chapters and stuff. Or we'll start putting some clips up, which I think will be fun. [01:15:28] Speaker B: Nice. Yeah, yeah, Very cool. Next up, Philip Thompson. [01:15:36] Speaker A: Where is. Here we go. This was another one where I might have had to choose and I didn't want to. [01:15:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. If you. I've attached three possibilities. You decide whether or not to show any or all. All were taken at Torquay on a couple of different mornings this year. The first one was taken from the car park at Point Danger. Is that this one? [01:16:00] Speaker A: I think so. Based on the other ones. Yep. [01:16:03] Speaker B: Okay. The first shot taken from the car park and I titled it Day meets Night. Pentax K1000 Mark 2. Oh, no, sorry. K1 Mark 2 with a 15 to 35 seconds 2.8 ISO 3200. They're the color that's just bananas. [01:16:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Getting. Getting the stars in the. Like in the top of the frame. The top right especially. And then that sort of sun, that light poking through. It's beautiful. [01:16:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:35] Speaker A: Just starting to light up the. That little peninsula or whatever that is on the right hand side. [01:16:40] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:16:42] Speaker A: yeah. Wow. [01:16:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:43] Speaker A: Beautiful colors. It's so vibrant. [01:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah. There's a lot of joy in. In Phillips photos. You know, there's a lot of color. Yeah. Phil. Sorry. A lot of color and, you know, and sort of a dynamic range that. It's just so compelling. I love it. Especially when he does his Aurora shots. [01:17:07] Speaker A: Yeah, just. That's actually a great moment to bring this up, that this podcast is getting so big that we have a Phil Thompson and a Philip Johnson and who did I say? [01:17:17] Speaker B: I get it wrong? [01:17:18] Speaker A: No, no, you got it. You got it right. But you said Philip, though, which throws me off because I. I always have Phil as Phil Thompson and Philip as Philip Johnson because I. Yeah, I. It's amazing. We're getting so big that I have to concentrate on which. Which Philip or Phil we're bringing up. I love it. So there was a couple of other shots there. Do you want me to bring them all up? [01:17:40] Speaker B: Yeah, let's just go through them quickly. Second was Torquay Front Beach. Gosh, I used to spend so much time down there with friends. Oh, my God, look at that. That's insane. Talkie Front beach from last Wednesday morning. Pentax K1 mark 2.15-31 10th of a second F11,800 ISO. [01:18:06] Speaker A: And finally. Yeah, the colors are just. I don't know if. Yeah, what these. There must be something with these Pentax cameras. Either that or Phil must be good at what he does. [01:18:16] Speaker B: Yeah, maybe. [01:18:17] Speaker A: Probably more likely that, I think could [01:18:19] Speaker B: be a bit of both. A lot of people go for his cameras for good reason. [01:18:22] Speaker A: Could be a bit of both. Yeah. Beautiful images. Wonderful line here, too, with the. The contours in the sand, the sun just making the shadows on the contours in the sand. [01:18:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:40] Speaker A: Beautiful shots. [01:18:42] Speaker B: Very cool. Well done, Phil. All right, up next. Yeah. [01:18:49] Speaker A: Who got it? [01:18:50] Speaker B: David Mascara. I'll start reading because it's quite a bit. Hi, guys. So here's another San Francisco street photo I took maybe a year ago. The interesting story behind it was that I submitted to two photography Facebook pages. One called Magnum. Don't know if I've heard of that photos. And the other street photography, Cartier Bresson inspired. Both show some very talented photographers work. This image got over 300 responses and about 25 to 30 comments on both pages. Sounds promising that I took a photo that invoked so many people. Right. 99% of the comments, though, were negative and insulting comments about Greta. [01:19:29] Speaker A: Oh. [01:19:30] Speaker B: Oh. Because she's in the background. These were all men. Of course they were. And this was all they could come up with, which was ripping on a teenager. Needless to say, I was kind of bummed because I was looking for some real criticism on the photo, good or bad. Anyway, guys, have a great show and see you Wednesday. Yeah, I think it's a stunning photo. Yeah. Yeah. [01:19:54] Speaker A: What do you think of the photo itself? You know what's interesting? I. I can see it now. I don't really realize that was Greta Thunberg. Anyway. That hadn't come into my mind when I saw this shot. Yeah, I think it was a really interesting perspective. Yeah. [01:20:15] Speaker B: Yeah. I just thought it was street art, but, yeah, it is her. [01:20:19] Speaker A: Yeah, I thought. Yeah, I just thought it was street art and a really interesting perspective on the shot with this kind of almost. I don't know what the. It Almost. It actually made me feel a little uneasy. Like, it. Like a. Someone's overlooking you during it. You know, during everyday life. And it. [01:20:40] Speaker B: Yeah, it's quite imposing. [01:20:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And because it's not a sort of a smiling face, it's a little bit imposing. That was the feeling it gave me. There was tension in the photo, which I liked. I was like, oh, this is. Yeah, this. There's something. Something here. [01:20:51] Speaker B: Because up there she's really saying, is that a plastic straw? [01:20:57] Speaker A: Yeah. Don't you litter. I'm watching you. [01:21:00] Speaker B: How dare you. [01:21:02] Speaker A: Yeah, see, now you're one of the guys in his comment. No, I'm kidding. [01:21:05] Speaker B: No, I'm not. I'm being. [01:21:07] Speaker A: We're being. We're being silly. I. I really like the shot and yeah, I think it's. I think if you. Whether it says more to someone, knowing that that's Greta wasn't something that popped into my head or I really care. I actually, I prefer it. I would prefer it if it was just a face, not. Not a character. [01:21:26] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. But given that we now know who it is and you know, Greta's known for casting judgment on. [01:21:34] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:21:34] Speaker B: Stuff that's destroying the planet and behavior and all that sort of stuff, it is interesting that she's looking down on this figure crossing the road almost in judgment. [01:21:45] Speaker A: Well, it would be interesting if that figure was. Oh, but that is a child too. And it was always her kind of. I guess one of her earlier sort of big. When she was quite prominent earlier on was sort of like, you're ruining the earth for us children who have to inherit it, basically. So the fact that there is a child in the shot is. Is quite interesting. [01:22:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And look, it's made us stop and talk. Yeah. About. [01:22:14] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:22:15] Speaker B: This is a piece of art and that in itself is, you know, priceless. So well done. [01:22:20] Speaker A: And. And as Bruce has said here, if people are hating it because of the content, that means you're doing something interesting. And I echo Bruce here too. I love the composition that. Yeah. The. The elements, the tree, the dark trees balancing out Greta's face and then the lines of the building, sort of. Yeah. It's all well executed and really cool. [01:22:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Well done. [01:22:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:22:48] Speaker B: Speak of the devil. Bruce sent one in. [01:22:50] Speaker A: Yes. [01:22:52] Speaker B: Bruce Moyle. Life has been busy and quite stressful. We're sorry to hear that. If you need to talk, you know where we are. And the topics I'm documenting are sometimes quite traumatic. So I've been shooting. I haven't been shooting for myself much. A few weeks ago, after finishing a 15 hour day, I took a detour, walking to my car via a new street festival in our city. It was all about street painting, which was awesome. With absolutely no agenda, I photographed the art, the people and the concert. I have some great Images from the 45 minutes I took out of the day. But I'm now thinking I have a new subject to explore when I want to laugh. Maybe the first of many frames. Maybe I'll forget after this week. Let me present to you the crowd without context. Even if I gave you context in this email, it would be fun to have a gallery of crowds, images that don't show what they are Watching it makes me laugh at its stupidity. This was shot on an A7R V with a 51.4 GM, 16 of a second, 1.4, 64 ISO, [01:23:53] Speaker A: I reckon. That's an awesome idea for a series. A series of crowds with no context of where they are would be so cool. It invites the viewer in to think, what are they? What are they watching? What are they looking at? What's happening? And try and judge it based on the. On the clothes or the. Whatever. Whatever. You can see their clues as to what. [01:24:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:13] Speaker A: What's happening in this scene. I like it. [01:24:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Very cool. [01:24:18] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:24:19] Speaker B: Nice shot. Really nice shot. It just. My eye is just going around and deep and out and. [01:24:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Is someone. I've done. I've done a lot of. I've done a lot of drag shutter stuff, dance floors at weddings and things like that. And. Yeah, I'm really impressed with what you've been able to do because when I do it, I use. I cheat. I use flash. You get up close to a subject with flash. The flash freezes the subject. And then the motion in the camera allows you to do the sort of the background blur and swirl and whatever you want to do with the camera movement. Somehow Bruce has been able to do that while keeping the subject sharp with no flash, which is quite amazing. [01:25:02] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:25:04] Speaker A: really well executed. And David Skinner says the focal point woman looks a bit like Kitty Flanagan. [01:25:14] Speaker B: Which one? I'm going to see Kitty Flanagan on Wednesday night. [01:25:20] Speaker A: Whatever. [01:25:21] Speaker B: Not privately. I mean, in a theater. [01:25:24] Speaker A: At a theater, Bruce might have some practice with the blurry stuff. Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah. You might have mastered it. Just dabbled. Yeah. Really cool. [01:25:38] Speaker B: Okay, this time it is Philip Johnson. [01:25:42] Speaker A: Okay. Right, here we are. [01:25:47] Speaker B: I haven't missed anyone, have I? No, no. [01:25:50] Speaker A: I do have some settings here, too. [01:25:52] Speaker B: Okay, cool. So from Philip, the attached image was captured in the megalong valley in spring. And as you can see by the clouds, a storm was developing in the distance. Oh, yeah. The subject was the colored vines and the Dry Ridge Winery in the megalong valley. Megalong. It feels like a weird word. Sorry. In the Blue Mountains, the capture was shot at a distance as 5 segmented panoramics. [01:26:19] Speaker A: Oh. [01:26:21] Speaker B: And then stitched together Capture on the A747200 2.8 mark II and process using Photoshop and Topaz photo. That's a gorgeous frame. [01:26:37] Speaker A: Yeah. And what a beautiful property. [01:26:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:40] Speaker A: Those clouds are. Those clouds are what make it make that shot. [01:26:46] Speaker B: Yeah. But also the lines leading up kind of up to the clouds, like draws you up into the tree line and then you see the clouds behind. [01:26:57] Speaker A: Yeah. What a wonderful location. [01:27:00] Speaker B: Yeah. Great shot, Philip. The amazing. [01:27:06] Speaker A: The dark foreground, too. I only just realized. I don't know whether that's been done or if that's just the nature of the. That sort of. The edge of the property might fall away after that fence line or something like that. But it kind of frames. It gives you these layers. [01:27:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. It says, good wine, too. [01:27:27] Speaker A: Good wine. Well, that's awesome. [01:27:31] Speaker B: When in Rome. Yeah. [01:27:34] Speaker A: Bring this back over here. [01:27:37] Speaker B: One to go. And we're almost on time. [01:27:45] Speaker A: Righto. Who's our last? [01:27:46] Speaker B: Rick Nelson. [01:27:48] Speaker A: Oh, and also there's a late edition for Dennis Smith. I've got it here as well. Yeah, he just snuck in. [01:27:53] Speaker B: Yeah. All right, we'll let it through this time. Dan, hope you and the Camera Life Family had a great holiday weekend. We did. Thank you. This photo was taken with my TG7 while on the City Cat on last Friday. My wife and I went for a walk at the park and ended up on a chill ride around the city on the ferry to end the evening. What a lovely way to spend the evening. Shot in aperture priority mode F2, so no zoom at ISO 100 camera selected 1, 400 shutter speed. The ferry drivers are fast and thought we were going to hit that kitty cat ferry, but we didn't. And I found what I think is a nice little composition. Indeed. [01:28:34] Speaker A: Yeah. And look at that, the TG7. Yeah. Crushing it. [01:28:40] Speaker B: Indeed. Yeah. Hey, I'm going on a ferry in a couple of weeks. [01:28:44] Speaker A: Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah. [01:28:45] Speaker B: I'm going. I'm going down to Tassie. I'm spending two nights in Hobart and then two or three in Launceston. So if anyone wants to catch up, let me know and I'll send you the dates. We'd love to meet up. Anyone from our Camera Life Camera Life Family wants to catch up for a coffee and maybe a street walk, who knows? But Sasha and I are going down. We just did a little bit of a break, so we're going to. We're going to go to Mona, which is the Museum of New Art, which is in up from Hobart, up the river. And you take a ferry from Hobart, I think it's near Battery Point. And then that goes up to the. To the gallery. And so we're going up there and spend a couple of days just eating seafood. And then Sasha's family is all in Launceston, so we'll go to Lonnie for a couple of nights and hang out with them and. Yeah, so very limited tour, but I will be appearing in two cities. [01:29:44] Speaker A: Tickets out now. Limited time. [01:29:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:46] Speaker A: Yeah, Two dates. Bruce says send me the dates. Sending me your two dates we'll do. [01:29:53] Speaker B: But yeah, I'm looking forward to that. [01:29:54] Speaker A: Taking my camera, obviously, I'm keen to see some images. That'll be fun. [01:29:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:59] Speaker A: Same street photography and Tassie change things up. [01:30:02] Speaker B: I'm just taking. Just taking the one lens. [01:30:05] Speaker A: The new one. [01:30:06] Speaker B: The 23. Yep. [01:30:08] Speaker A: Yeah. What about a camera? Or are you just going to take the lens and just look through it? [01:30:12] Speaker B: It just takes photo. It's so good. It doesn't even need a camera. [01:30:19] Speaker A: All right, let's bring up Dan's image. The final one. This one. [01:30:24] Speaker B: Oh, I saw this. [01:30:26] Speaker A: And he says, a wild week. Headed to the beach for some mental health maintenance. A warm, stunning night with a great mate. A7R4, 24mil F11, 60 second exposure. That's so beautiful. Yeah, I. I really need to, like. I've seen Dennis work when we watched him do the portraits, beautiful portraits, but I want to see him. And obviously we've seen him thrashing around in the freezing cold river at Bright, but there was tons of people there and, and that was sort of a. That was quite a. It was almost like performance art. The amount of people that were very. [01:31:11] Speaker B: But it was very performative on Dennis's behalf as well. [01:31:14] Speaker A: That's what I mean. As in he, he. I don't think he. He didn't have probably as much energy to like, finesse an individual image. He was sort of trying to continue, keep. Keep making images, keep giving people opportunity to shoot him. I'd really love to watch him work on something like this where he's just finessing one of these images just in his own, you know, his own time and at his own pace, the way that he does it. Be cool. [01:31:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:43] Speaker A: He said, I maybe took 10 or so in this spot. I was relaxing, calming down a frazzled brain. Tweet production says, Dennis, can you walk on water? That's a. That's a great question. How else does he get out there? [01:32:01] Speaker B: Yeah, it's [01:32:05] Speaker A: swirls. How'd you get up this high? I don't even know. Must have a. Some sort of light painting pole or something. [01:32:14] Speaker B: Anyway, it's gorgeous. [01:32:18] Speaker A: Beautiful, beautiful. Oh, you know what we haven't talked about? [01:32:25] Speaker B: What haven't we talked about? Art Wolf. [01:32:27] Speaker A: Yes, Art Wolf's interview. [01:32:29] Speaker B: Yep. [01:32:30] Speaker A: That was cool. [01:32:31] Speaker B: That was very cool. That was a good interview. [01:32:35] Speaker A: He's. He's done some stuff. What A what a career. What a crate. And he's still going like full steam ahead, it seems. [01:32:45] Speaker B: What has he published, 120 books? Yeah, he's got six in the works right now. [01:32:50] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:32:52] Speaker B: Like he's keeping the photo book industry alive. [01:32:55] Speaker A: You know, like it's just him, he's the only one putting. [01:32:58] Speaker B: Yeah. But you know, like if he, if he can still find content to put in a book after all these years, he must be doing something very right, you know. Yeah. [01:33:09] Speaker A: Really, really interesting. That was such a fun interview to be a part of. And if, if anyone hasn't had a chance to check it out, please go and have a listen because it's, it's absolutely gold. [01:33:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:22] Speaker A: And. And if you haven't checked his workout, I mean, everyone's seen it, I'm sure. But yeah, just going through. There's so many images from the 50 year career. [01:33:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:32] Speaker A: From so many different countries and locations and different. Even that. What was the one called where he had painted the. The bodies. [01:33:39] Speaker B: Oh yeah. And painted the backdrops by hand. [01:33:43] Speaker A: Like by hand. [01:33:44] Speaker B: Because he's also. He also studied fine art and fine art education or art education when he did university decades ago. And he still paints. Yeah, Just incredible. Like, obviously has an eye that just sees the scenes. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know how some people can just. They can either paint something or draw something or take a photo and it just feels perfect right off the bat. He's got that kind of style. Like it's just. And I'm sure it wasn't always that easy, but you know. [01:34:19] Speaker A: Yeah, he just sees it incredible. And he works hard and he mentioned it quite a few times, you know, like I had a quote written down here which we didn't even talk about in the interview, but I heard him say somewhere else about photography, it will consume your life if you want to be successful. And that, that's the thing. Like, it really does sound like he, he works a lot and has sacrificed what other people might sort of theme as, as regular life stuff to be able to travel a lot and do the work that he wants to do and achieve what he's been able to achieve. Yeah. [01:34:57] Speaker B: You know, he's. All those books he's run, three, he's created three different television shows. He's photographed every corner of the globe. He's got a staff of what you say three or four, with two of them having been with him for over 30 years. [01:35:12] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:35:13] Speaker B: Like he must be. That's incredible. That's a testament to someone who really looks after the people around them, you know. [01:35:19] Speaker A: Yep. [01:35:20] Speaker B: Certainly you were a bit more like that. There it is. [01:35:27] Speaker A: There it is. [01:35:28] Speaker B: The late night digit. Every time. But, yeah, go and watch it, folks. It was. It's funny, afterwards, Justin and I were talking after Walt sort of left the studio and we were talking, we both admitted how nervous we were at the start. [01:35:42] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. You know, if you guys listen back, you'll know. You'll notice we're a bit Starstruck. We're like Mr. Art Wolf, sir, do you like cameras, sir? [01:35:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, there we go. Philip. Philip, the Human. The Human Canvas was the book. [01:36:00] Speaker A: That's it. The Human Canvas. [01:36:01] Speaker B: Thank you. And thank you, Philip, for recommending art, you know. [01:36:06] Speaker A: Yeah. And. And look at this. So Paul says, well done, guys, for getting hold of art. What a coup. And. And Bruce Moore says, art's a legend. Well done. Getting an interview. All credit has to go to one Greg, because he does all the getting of the interviews. I don't do that at all. All I just say, hey, it'd be cool if we could get this person. Then he just figures out how to do that. But also to art as well, for making himself available to do interviews, taking up a couple of hours of his [01:36:34] Speaker B: day to hang out with Tish Mucks. [01:36:37] Speaker A: That's right. When he's a busy man and we're not, you know, we're not. We don't have a huge platform or whatever to. But he said yes, you know, easily. Could have said, I don't have time, but no. And so many of our guests have just made themselves. Themselves available. And plus, like the. The regulars that you guys are in the chat now, Bruce and Dennis and Greg Carrick. And David Dare Parker's here. We'll get him on the podcast one day eventually. Happy Easter, fellas. Happy Easter, David. Hope you're going well. And Greg just rushed into. Sorry, chaps, I'm here now. Well, sorry, we were on the wrong channel earlier. [01:37:13] Speaker B: Yeah, [01:37:15] Speaker A: yeah. So anyway, great week for the podcast other than our snafu today and. [01:37:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:37:21] Speaker A: What do we got? What do we got coming up? This Thursday covered. [01:37:23] Speaker B: Well, we covered our composure well. [01:37:25] Speaker A: We did. Is it Sophie Garrity? This Thursday? [01:37:28] Speaker B: Sophie Garrity's on this. This Sophie is a really interesting photographer, like we see a lot of people do. She's kind of split her brand across two platforms, so she has her commercial stuff where she does corporate events and that sort of thing. And then there's her sort of more family wedding, newborn maternity work, and she's got two separate websites A bit like what Jim's done with, you know, the weddings and the boudoir. He's split his brand across two different platforms. She's done the same. So it'd be a really interesting conversation to see how she got to the point, like was that a, was that a conscious decision up front before she got the business rolling or did that just sort of somehow did something dictate that she really needed to separate them, you know. But yeah, really interesting. And obviously Sophie was a BFOP instructor last year. She's also an athlete. I'm pretty sure she does long distance running like Emily Black does. [01:38:31] Speaker A: She absolutely does, yes. [01:38:33] Speaker B: So, yeah, lots to talk about with Sophie next week and yeah, should be good [01:38:42] Speaker A: and yes, it will be great. Bruce also just said need Jim to come back on and tell us how his changes went on the business. He has been implementing them and we, we're roping him in. He's keen to get back on some podcasts. He's just been flat out, but I think he's got some shoots booked in in the next week or two and I thought will definitely get him back in after those have been done. So we can see how his new price list went and all that sort of stuff. [01:39:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:10] Speaker A: To see whether. Yeah, the changes are helping. I think they are great. Yeah. I think he was just, you know, weddings are a different business model, number one and two, just getting that confidence in a new genre to put your prices where they need to be. He needed that, that push from Richard Grenfell to just to put those prices up. [01:39:33] Speaker B: Yeah. So very cool. Yeah, very, very awesome. Well, I think that might be a good place. We've gone ten minutes over our one and a half hour limit. Well done, Justin. There it is. Just let him have his moment. Right. But thank you to everyone who's who's joined us tonight. We'll say goodbye to some individual peeps in a moment. But if you're new here, this is the Camera Life podcast. Right now you are watching the random photography show which we go live with every Monday, even evening, 7.30pm Australian Eastern Standard Time. And then every Thursday morning we have interviews with amazing photographers, both Australian and international photographers. Wolf, Bruce Moyle, Dennis Smith, and the list goes on. We, we interview live again, long form interview with photographers to understand what makes them tick, how they got into their craft, what are their passions and what are they currently working on and where are they leading to. And that happens every Thursday morning, 9am Australian Eastern Standard Time. But the best way to find out when the camera Life podcast is going live is to subscribe and when you subscribe, if you tickle the bell icon to notify all, you'll get notified in your time zone when we're going live with next episode of the Camera Life podcast. [01:40:56] Speaker A: Yeah, what Greg said, all that stuff and what what other Greg said, Greg Carrick says click like, yeah, thanks crackers. Or I mean, you know, the biggest thing you could do to help the channel is if you know a photographer that might enjoy the show, tell them to come, you know, tell them to send a photo in and then tell them to watch the show or send them your favorite interview episode or something like that. Yeah, we'd love to grow the community and I think the best way to do that is through friends of friends and photographers of photographers and spreading the word naturally. [01:41:26] Speaker B: So absolutely. Yeah, yeah. And if you, if you don't have any friends then just find out what your parents accounts are and just hack them and just subscribe with their accounts. Yeah, we're not fuzzy, we just need the numbers. It's quality not quantity. [01:41:42] Speaker A: And Bruce Moyle giving us the assist with the lucky straps ad. If you are interested in in a leather camera strap to help you carry a camera around while you're out on the streets or on an overseas adventure or you know, photographing penguins in the Arctic, you can use code Greg for 15% off all of our camera [email protected] they're quick release, anti theft, cut resistant leather, comfortable, soft, long enough to go across your body so that they don't hurt your neck. All that good stuff. So check them out. Code Greg. Thanks Bruce. And with that, shall we roll the music? [01:42:18] Speaker B: We shall [01:42:22] Speaker A: tweet. Production says, sorry I come late to the party but it's always a joy to chill with this awesome crew. [01:42:27] Speaker B: Thanks tweet. [01:42:28] Speaker A: Good to see you. John Pickett. Thank you, David Skinner. Oh, going, going, ballooning with 50 plus balloons tomorrow picks next week or awesome. [01:42:39] Speaker B: Yes please. [01:42:40] Speaker A: Can't wait to see it. Yes, send them in. Thanks Paul. See you Thursday. Thanks Rick Nelson. Phil Thompson says thanks for the show once again guys. Another fine show. Some great photos from everyone. Look forward to Thursday's episode. Thanks Dennis. Happy place. Who else? Thanks, Philip Johnson. Good to see you, David. Dear Parker. Ah, everybody else that joined us, I don't know, there was tons of you here tonight. Glad you found the channel eventually and I promise I won't muck it up next week. Anyway, catch you in the next one. [01:43:20] Speaker B: Thanks everybody. See you next time. Be safe.

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