EP118 A7V Specs, GoPro get's LIT and Camera Spectacles - The Random Photography Show

[00:00:00] Speaker A: It foreign. [00:00:37] Speaker B: And welcome back to the Camera Life podcast. This is our random photography show and it is the 22nd of September 2025 and you're currently watching episode 118 of the camera Life podcast, proudly brought to you by Lucky Straps. Luckystraps.com is an Aussie made Bendigo base leather camera strap maker. That's who we're all here for. I've even got a new Lucky Straps T shirt. Look, cobalt blue. [00:01:04] Speaker A: Cobalt blue. I don't use your eyes. [00:01:06] Speaker B: Available on the store. [00:01:08] Speaker A: That's a custom. That's a custom Greggy. That one. [00:01:10] Speaker B: Very special, very special. But yeah, as I said, Lucky Straps is sponsoring our video, so. Thanks, Justin. [00:01:18] Speaker A: You're welcome. I mean, it's a team effort, really. We all sponsor it together. [00:01:24] Speaker B: Nice. [00:01:25] Speaker A: Nice. What did you live chat? What did you think of our weirdo new intro that I made today? [00:01:32] Speaker B: You spent a whole day on it. [00:01:33] Speaker C: Canva has one again. [00:01:35] Speaker A: I spent longer than I should have on it, if that's what you want to know. [00:01:42] Speaker C: Did you take a photo of your headphones and then cut them out? [00:01:45] Speaker A: No, no, they're actually the same brand as you've got on. [00:01:49] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [00:01:49] Speaker A: The akg. No. What do you got? I can't remember. The Audio Technica at 50Xs. I think they were just on camera. [00:01:59] Speaker B: Yeah, it's already an asset, so. Yeah, yeah, why not? Hey, why not? So, yeah, stick around tonight, guys. We've got a fair bit to go through. If you're watching along, listening along, whatever it may be, please make sure you give us a like. It helps let YouTube know that more people want to see what we're doing. But also subscribe and hit the bell notification and that way you'll get notifications in your time zone of every time we go live or throw in a little cheeky random show now and then. But Justin, do you want to say hello to some people in the chat or do you want me to do it? Are you busy making another intro? [00:02:33] Speaker A: I'm very not organized for this show. I spent a lot of time today organizing this show, but no time actually doing the. The stuff I was supposed to do. [00:02:41] Speaker B: The actual organization. [00:02:42] Speaker C: I like reading Greg's sheet. [00:02:44] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I. I did read the run sheet, but I didn't. You hadn't added your stuff? [00:02:48] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I added it pretty early. [00:02:51] Speaker B: There's a bit of anger. Anger before the show, everybody. And it feels like it's still. There's a tension, there's a. There's an energy, there's a heat Jim is bringing the heat. [00:03:00] Speaker A: We have a system of how to submit photos for the your images section. And? And Jim thinks he's above the law. Everyone else knows what to do. Everyone in the chat knows. You got to email me. [00:03:10] Speaker C: No, Greg has a bit on his Google sheet that says image review. We've been doing it this way since the start. [00:03:16] Speaker A: Yeah, it's not how I do it. [00:03:18] Speaker B: We had a meeting while you're away, and we agreed that this is now law. [00:03:23] Speaker A: Fine. [00:03:24] Speaker B: All right. Hence Jim's anger. [00:03:26] Speaker A: Well, I'll figure that out for the show. [00:03:30] Speaker C: That's why we have rules. [00:03:32] Speaker B: All right, I'll say hello to people. Good morning, Philip. Great to have you. John Pickett, great as always. Say good morning. Did I say good morning? [00:03:40] Speaker A: No, no, no. [00:03:42] Speaker C: It depends. Hang on. It depends where he is. [00:03:44] Speaker B: Yeah, exactly. It's not morning. [00:03:47] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:03:48] Speaker B: David Leporati. Good evening, everyone. Nev Clark. Great to have you back, Nev. Hello. This is my Jim Thrash Tones. Haha. [00:03:56] Speaker A: Oh, leg day. [00:03:57] Speaker C: Good job, Nev. [00:03:58] Speaker A: Skip it. [00:03:58] Speaker B: It's gonna hurt tomorrow. Lisa Leach. Always lovely to see you. Hello, guys. Digifrog Dave. I have chosen you blokes over watching the Brown Low. [00:04:07] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:04:07] Speaker B: Have I made the right call? Yes, you have, because Jim is bringing the heat. Justin is like a loose cannon, and I'm trying. I'm the glue that holds this idiot sandwich together. [00:04:21] Speaker A: You're the meat in the idiot sandwich. [00:04:25] Speaker B: I am the idiot meat. G', day, Dave. Rick Nelson. Hello, everybody. Yelena, red carpet outfits here. Digifrog. An evening to all from Yelena. Lisa had a spring clean. Justin, your office is looking bright and sparkly. [00:04:39] Speaker A: Oh, and then I just changed the lights. The lights are falling apart. Hang on. Look at him. [00:04:43] Speaker B: Comes in with a rake. He comes in with a rake once a week, Lisa. And he just rakes everything to the corner that the camera can't see. [00:04:50] Speaker A: Yeah, so if I get bored later in the show, I'll put my iPhone camera on and show you guys what it actually looks like in here. [00:04:58] Speaker B: Where did you get the rake from your Brownskeeper? [00:05:02] Speaker C: It's ours. [00:05:03] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Philip Johnson. Evening, Yelena and Nev Clark. Just to prove I'm on. I'm on Jim doing the hard yards. I'll message Craig. I really don't know if I want to see that message now. [00:05:13] Speaker A: All right, so. No. You know how you can prove it to us, Nev? I've got a surprise that I would be working on today again. While I wasn't getting organized for the show, I was busy working on a surprise Let me just do this. [00:05:26] Speaker B: I've got to show you this photo of Nevs. [00:05:27] Speaker C: Hang on. Is this going to be like. [00:05:29] Speaker A: Okay, okay. [00:05:30] Speaker C: A little thing down the bottom. Introducing a new topic. [00:05:36] Speaker A: Maybe glasses half full. [00:05:41] Speaker B: Where's young Nev's message? [00:05:42] Speaker A: Here it is. [00:05:42] Speaker B: I'm going to show everyone this photo Nev. Because you're going full gangster. [00:05:47] Speaker A: Hang on. [00:05:47] Speaker B: How do I do that again? Share my screen Facebook. Here he is. There's never the gym. Everybody. [00:06:00] Speaker A: Look at him go. Look at that. [00:06:02] Speaker B: Blingy's rocking. [00:06:03] Speaker A: Yeah, get it Nev. Hey, that chain. [00:06:07] Speaker B: I know. Well played, Nev. Okay, I'm with the hellos. Bruce Moyle. Great to see you, Bruce. I hang out with Bruce. On what day did we catch up Bruce? He was in Melbourne on Friday for the day I believe. Was it Friday? [00:06:23] Speaker C: I think that's when you sent some photos. [00:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah. And when and Dennis came to Bendigo. [00:06:28] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw Dennis. Oh it was a Friday. Catch ups. Jim missed out though. [00:06:32] Speaker C: No, no invite. [00:06:33] Speaker B: I didn't get invited either. Jim. So let's bring on the heat again. [00:06:36] Speaker A: Bruce. [00:06:38] Speaker B: Yeah. You know what about me? What about poor Jim? I'm advocating for G. I'm an ally. Bring out all the buzzwords tonight. Digifrog day. Three votes you later. I'm not sure what that's for the brown though. Okay. I don't know football. I should send one in from Greg's and my walk. Yes, please do. Bruce Craig Murphy. Good evening all. Paul. G' day guys. Rick Nelson emailed an image through today. Oh did you Nev never found that chain in Bali. Why does that not surprise me? And Bruce confirms. Yes it was Friday. We caught up and Lisa, one last comment. Great state street photography, Greg. Great street photography and love Bruce's state Larry images. They were okay. Doesn't actually say that on elaborating. [00:07:25] Speaker A: So here's my. Here's my surprise for the show if someone wants to. I spent most a long time today. Longer than I'd like to. [00:07:33] Speaker B: You nearly said it. Most of the day. [00:07:35] Speaker A: Most probably most of the day. Trying to set up a way for you guys to be able to call into the show but I need someone to test it out. So this isn't the official. I mean you guys can. No you can't. I think you know Nev could. He's at the gym. Anyone if anyone wants to try attempt to live call in. [00:07:58] Speaker C: That's not your phone. [00:08:00] Speaker A: No, I had to set up a different phone number so that I don't have to take numbers from weirdos on the Internet, like, take calls in midnight when someone just stumbles across these shows from another country, and they're like, I'm gonna call that number now. [00:08:11] Speaker C: Does that mean your rodecaster is just going to ring in the middle of the night? [00:08:14] Speaker A: Maybe. So try this. Anyone? If you want to try, just to see if this works, call 04855, 12370. [00:08:25] Speaker B: And then you get to say, oh, my God, the switchboard is lit up. [00:08:28] Speaker A: Yeah. The number is on your screen. Someone test it out. [00:08:31] Speaker C: Come on, Nev. Long, long time listener, first time caller. [00:08:34] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Come on. Call in. [00:08:39] Speaker B: Anyone? Maybe it's not. [00:08:41] Speaker C: I think Bruce says he can test it. [00:08:43] Speaker B: Bruce has given it a shot. [00:08:45] Speaker A: Anyone? That. It's. It's here. Oh, oh, oh, oh. Can you guys hear that? [00:08:51] Speaker C: We can. [00:08:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:52] Speaker A: Really? Let's see. Is this gonna work? Hang on. Hang on. Hold on, caller. Hold on, caller. You're on the air. No, no, no. Something's not working. Come on. Where are you? It's connected. Try that. Caller, can you hear me? Call her. [00:09:17] Speaker B: This is riveting. [00:09:20] Speaker A: Anyone? Anything? [00:09:22] Speaker B: Why? Oh, you knucklehead. Why didn't you get something? Jim or I to call you? [00:09:25] Speaker A: It's not working. Hang on. I'm just trying to connect you and reconnect you. I did test it earlier. Yelena tested it. We're trying again. Hang on. Hold on. Can you hear me now? Output routing. Yes, yes. Everything is the same. Everything is the same as earlier. What about now? No, this is great podcasting. [00:09:52] Speaker B: If you're only listening to audio. Justin is attempting to use a mobile phone for the first time. [00:09:57] Speaker A: Still not working. Okay. [00:10:00] Speaker B: Damn, I can hear him. [00:10:02] Speaker A: Yeah, well, that's because he's on speaker at the moment. He's just going into the microphone. But. [00:10:09] Speaker C: Do you need Elena to come in and fix it? [00:10:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Comments from the super coach. Come on, Justin. You can do it. [00:10:15] Speaker A: Output routing. Output routing's right. Bluetooth is right. It's all there. Everything's working. [00:10:22] Speaker B: Jim, I think we should just mute his microphone and go on with the show. [00:10:24] Speaker C: Have you turned it off and on again? [00:10:26] Speaker A: No. All right, I'm gonna hang up, and we'll try again in five minutes. [00:10:34] Speaker C: Thanks. [00:10:35] Speaker B: Thanks for trying. [00:10:36] Speaker C: Bruce, Rick asked, do you have to plug the phone into the caster? [00:10:40] Speaker A: No, no, no. It's. It's Bluetooth. It's Bluetooth. And I. I tested it today, guys. I wouldn't just spring this on you, but you did. [00:10:49] Speaker C: Well, I think we just lost the podcast. Cast of the year. Podcast of the Year award. [00:10:56] Speaker A: He said, all right. Turning off Bluetooth. Turning on Bluetooth. [00:11:00] Speaker C: We were close. [00:11:01] Speaker B: So close. [00:11:02] Speaker A: I thought it was going to be the best surprise. Well, the good news is. Or not. The good news is there's not really many comments for us to read out. So it's not like we're dragging the show back too much. [00:11:13] Speaker B: Okay. [00:11:14] Speaker A: Got four viewer comments to read out from the shows over the past week. [00:11:18] Speaker C: Bruce says, I just didn't do it. [00:11:20] Speaker A: I didn't do it right. [00:11:22] Speaker B: We've also got a giveaway to announce. [00:11:25] Speaker A: Yeah, no we don't. We're going to retool that giveaway because we got no comments. So we ran the worst ever giveaway ever. No one entered. I don't know, I must have done something wrong. I got to get rid of this benefit for a moment while I figured this out. So, yeah, we'll retool that giveaway and we'll figure out a better way to do it. Obviously what we did wasn't easy enough for people to enter. Okay, we do. We'll read some comments. Comments out in a second. But this is mainly a show about news and rumors because there is a lot of stuff going on and there's more coming. So there's a lot of rumors about cameras and there's also a lot of things getting released and just general murmurings in the industry. Plus. [00:12:09] Speaker B: Indeed. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Plus Zuckerberg looks nerdier than ever and that's what I'm, that's what I'm excited about. [00:12:16] Speaker B: It is interesting though. It's, it's never, I think it's never been a better time to digital photographer. It is just going bananas with third party, first party cameras, lenses, accessories, action cams. You know, the whole industry is abuzz right now with new products and every time there's a release, you know, it sells out and then it's hard to find stock and all those sorts of things are happening. But yeah, every week when I source the news for our Monday night Rent a photography show, I've noticed a steady increase in like know key announcements that are, that are going on in the industry, which is great. It's good for us. [00:12:54] Speaker A: Who just sent me this, this picture. It's a picture. It says, oh, they're Muppets and it's the Muppets trying to answer. [00:13:07] Speaker B: Well, very. [00:13:08] Speaker A: This is going to be fun. All right. I'm reconnected. I mean, someone tried again. Let's just, let's make this happen. Let me put the, let me put the number back up. [00:13:18] Speaker B: Can someone please call justin 048-55-13. [00:13:23] Speaker A: 70. Let's give it one more shot before I give up. [00:13:26] Speaker C: It worked today. [00:13:28] Speaker A: It did work today. [00:13:29] Speaker B: Bruce is giving it a shot. All right. [00:13:31] Speaker A: Come on in, Bruce. Can you hear it? [00:13:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:35] Speaker C: You can hear it? Do you need to answer it with the other thing? [00:13:39] Speaker A: Hang on. Hold the line. Are you there? What is it? Why not? [00:13:49] Speaker C: Come on, come on, Bruce. [00:13:51] Speaker A: It's not, it's not. It's not working. It's not working. I don't know what has happened. It was perfect. [00:14:01] Speaker B: Oh, well. [00:14:02] Speaker A: Well, next time, next time. Back to the drawing board. I mean, it was. [00:14:08] Speaker C: Don't. Okay, don't call 048-512-370. [00:14:13] Speaker A: Please don't be included in the Bluetooth output. Yes. No, we don't want that. It's all, it's all as it should be tested, ready to go. [00:14:23] Speaker B: Anyway folks, that's all we have time for tonight. Thank you for joining us on the camera. [00:14:30] Speaker A: Okay, we'll move on. [00:14:31] Speaker B: All right, we'll fix it next week. Next time, Next time, next time, next time, next time. Can we. Yeah, let's, let's move on with viewer comments. [00:14:40] Speaker A: Okay, viewer comments. [00:14:43] Speaker B: Where's the sound effect? [00:14:44] Speaker A: I'm getting there all day. How much I have to do to try and run this show. [00:14:53] Speaker C: What do you mean? Greg runs the show. He does the document. [00:14:58] Speaker A: A lot more to this than a document. [00:15:00] Speaker B: Well, all right, viewer comments. [00:15:04] Speaker A: Let's hear comments. First comment was from the one and only Cube Productions. Who is Chris Benny commenting on his own episode. Episode 117 with Chris Benny, Australia's most in demand car photographer. And he said thanks for having me on, guys have been loving all the podcasts. He was a great interview. So if anyone wants to go back and check it out when you got time sometime this week and have a listen if you haven't listened already. High end automotive photographer and now full on video production for some of the biggest brands in the world like Audi and Kia and Red Bull and just everyone you can imagine runs a studio of six full time staff, massive projects and an absolute camera nerd. Yeah, so he's got it. [00:15:54] Speaker B: He's done really well for himself. Like he's built a brand and a business that is thriving. But having said that, he still commented a couple of times that he still gets anxious about the money, about making sure there's money coming in for the business, all of that sort of stuff. And I guess that never goes away. [00:16:07] Speaker A: The jobs get bigger. But yeah, it's the same, the same stresses that we all go through probably actually much bigger stresses, actually, but it. [00:16:14] Speaker B: Was a fantastic chat. So I highly recommend not now, but everyone go back and watch that if you haven't already. And yeah, give it a like and a thumbs up and all of that sort of business. [00:16:22] Speaker A: Yeah, check it out, check it out. Hang on. We got more photos coming in. Oh, no. Is this AI? It's just. Hang on. It's just like three confused people with a roadcaster trying to figure out a. [00:16:40] Speaker B: Phone and two of them have beards and one doesn't. Is it? Yeah. [00:16:46] Speaker C: And the two guys look the same on the outside. [00:16:49] Speaker A: It's kind of. I mean, part of it is the fact that there's nothing plugged into this Rodecaster, this. This fake AI kind of looking thing, and it's backwards. But anyway, that's basically us. What else? Okay, let me bring this back up at. @cjrivera2003, 2 days ago, commented on my video about how to use Canon's new hot shoe cover properly and said the pin scratched the contact in the center. No, it didn't. Okay. At mark six. [00:17:27] Speaker C: Six context for that one or not? [00:17:30] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I mean, I. I guess he was just analyzing my video and saying I did something wrong, but he's wrong. [00:17:37] Speaker B: It is one of your. It is one of your most viewed videos. [00:17:41] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. [00:17:42] Speaker B: Here's how you put a hot shoe cover on Canon. [00:17:46] Speaker A: Well, they did make it a little trickier than people liked, but it does stay on, unlike the previous one that just went missing pretty much immediately. So there's that. [00:17:55] Speaker B: It's probably in someone's pool. [00:17:58] Speaker A: ARC 6652. This is on another old video of mine. This was an inside look, manual focus experience with Leica Q3, where I kind of walked around and just showed what it was like to manually focus with the Q3 and what that looks like on the screen. And he said, thanks for sharing. I wish you would show how it looks in the viewfinder. Too bad. And to that I say, well, that's really, really hard. It doesn't have a HDMI output that I can record doing the Atomos recorder or something for the evf. So there's not really any way I can do that. But also it basically looks the same as the screen, just really small. And then you put it close to your eye, but other than that, it's very similar. [00:18:42] Speaker B: So you're not giving the people what they want. Justin, that's. Anyway, anyway, if anyone wants to complain about that video, the number is. What was the number? Can you Bring it up again. [00:18:51] Speaker A: Yeah, well, not yet. Let me. I can't believe I tested it today and it worked. And then I was so excited. I thought you guys were going to be like, look what you've done. Instead it's like, look what you've done. [00:19:02] Speaker B: Yeah, throwing shade instead of flowers. Any other great comments? [00:19:07] Speaker A: Yeah. Last comment at F Style photo, who actually met the other day. This is another comment on the Chris Benny video. Great video, guys and great to hear about your journey. Chris, I've been following your work since around 2014 when your website Insta had a lot of moto and outdoor sports and have always loved your style and quality. [00:19:28] Speaker B: Hang on, did you write this comment? [00:19:30] Speaker A: It's very similar to my experience with Chris, but no, I did not write it. Your work has really shaped and inspired my style as you clearly have the same passion for bikes and cars as I do. Thanks to all involved in this video and for your time, Chris. Having the best auto photographer in Australia share their knowledge is a gift to us all. If you ever need an assistant in Melbourne, I would love to be of service. [00:19:52] Speaker B: Wow, what a cool comment. [00:19:54] Speaker A: Yeah, very cool. [00:19:55] Speaker B: Very, very cool. [00:19:56] Speaker A: Very cool. So, yeah, quite weak on the old comments, but otherwise that's all right. Nev Clark saying the number should be 1, 800 1800. 1800. We don't care. Yeah, well, that's for complaints. That's for the complain complaints. [00:20:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:13] Speaker A: Right, yeah, yeah. [00:20:15] Speaker C: That actually goes directly to Greg's phone. [00:20:18] Speaker A: Get that set up. [00:20:19] Speaker B: Yeah, thanks. Thanks. [00:20:21] Speaker A: Jim, get this to work. [00:20:22] Speaker B: No, drop it for now. Just let it go. [00:20:25] Speaker A: I'm so excited. [00:20:26] Speaker B: Let it go. Come on. News and rumors. Do it now. [00:20:32] Speaker A: Going to drag it out for a little bit longer. Okay. [00:20:38] Speaker C: We can't move until you've done the jingle now. [00:20:40] Speaker A: Nothing's working actually. Everything's frozen in Streamyard. I can't even get to the next layout. This is insane. Jim, go to Media Assets. Can you see my backgrounds? [00:21:00] Speaker C: Oh yeah. [00:21:01] Speaker A: Can you see the next one? Oh no, don't click it yet. Three, two, one. [00:21:11] Speaker B: Okay, thanks, Jim. News and rumors. So as we mentioned at the top of the show, Justin, will you be able to bring up any articles that I refer to? [00:21:20] Speaker A: Anything you want. I'm on it. [00:21:22] Speaker B: Love it. So yeah, at the top of the show we mentioned that there's been a lot of news has been granted the rumor sites are going frothy. They're all frothing because there's all these, you know, supposed new Canon camera coming lenses on the horizon for different brands. They get very Excited at this time of year for some reason. But the folks at GoPro and DJI butting heads again. They both released some new products recently. Let's. Let's talk about the GoPro to announce two new cameras next week. [00:21:53] Speaker A: Yeah, they haven't released this one yet. [00:21:58] Speaker B: But they've released a teaser. [00:22:00] Speaker A: Yeah, the teasers are out and the rumors are leaked. A lot of it's leaked already. But basically the teasers, you know, two new cameras. Which one's for you? But it's quite clear that one is the long awaited max to360 camera to go head to head with insta360s x5 which has been. They've been building that lineup for ages. And then also DJI's new 360 camera that only come out what a month ago or something two months ago whenever that was very recently. [00:22:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:22:32] Speaker A: And I can't remember what this was called. I don't know something. So we don't know much about that other than I believe it hit. Oh yeah. See 360. [00:22:41] Speaker B: Yeah. Some images of it. [00:22:43] Speaker A: It's gonna have twist and go replaceable lenses which DJI didn't have. And the X5 Insta360X5 does have which everyone was very appreciative of because the scratch lens on a 360 camera sucks. [00:22:56] Speaker B: Well yeah, unless you can replace it, it's pretty much useless, isn't it? Depending on the size of the scratch. Yeah. [00:23:02] Speaker A: Yeah. If it's a tiny scratch, mine's got tiny one on it, you can't see it. But yeah, if it gets like a little nick on there it can really just affect the image because everything's in focus so it's quite noticeable. So yeah it's. That's a good sign. Otherwise the form factor looks very similar to the other Macs. It looks like based on this leaked sort of little product layout they're going to carry the hero 13 over for another year. [00:23:28] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't like how well it's selling. [00:23:31] Speaker A: Well, I don't know either. And also it's still pretty capable lined up against the. The competitors so they probably don't need to bring out another one and they just. They like they had all those lenses for it and stuff. I don't know. Yeah, this one's interesting. The other, the other camera, the lit hero that has four LEDs on the front of it. Our smallest 4K camera gets a bright new upgrade. I just, I've just never. [00:24:00] Speaker B: Very small panel of light. [00:24:02] Speaker A: Yeah. And I've never really been like Man, I wish my GoPro had 4 LEDs on the front of it. But I don't know, maybe, maybe, maybe for creators, other stuff like selfie people. [00:24:13] Speaker B: Yeah, like vlogging in dark spaces. Yeah, yeah. What was it was. It wasn't a GoPro. They probably still do it. But you know, obviously there's a whole big selection of first and third party accessories for GoPros. There always have been everything from things that you can wear to think like a mount that you can bite onto so you can have the camera in your mouth while you're doing stuff. [00:24:37] Speaker A: Yeah, I got one of them. [00:24:38] Speaker B: You do surprise me. And one of the accessories that I think I saw a few years ago was like an attachable LED module. [00:24:48] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:24:48] Speaker B: Was that, Was that with GoPro? They did that, didn't they? Yep. [00:24:51] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. And it was much bigger than this. Not big, but like the four little leds is not very big. [00:25:00] Speaker B: Oh, there it is clarified. The GoPro Creator Edition comes with a light. Thanks, Rick. And also from Rick, just quickly. Oh, sorry. [00:25:10] Speaker A: Hey, we're mind melding, Greg. We were both. [00:25:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:12] Speaker A: And also from Rick, I'm excited for the Max too. He says, I was close to getting the DJI360 but hope it's not, it's not a letdown yet. I think it's good waiting because yeah, that, that DJI360 did look appealing, but reviews in general put it very close to the X5, which has been, I mean it's been around a lot longer. That X series line. It would be hard for me to pick between those two. And now waiting till this Max comes out and every YouTuber and their dog will put out a head to head with those three cameras and you'll be able to see really which one's the best value for money. Before you jump on, which do you. [00:25:51] Speaker B: Think, which brand out of the action cameras do you think offers the best value for money? Justin. Because you've used and owned a lot of them. [00:25:59] Speaker A: Value for money. [00:26:01] Speaker B: Yeah, like, well, everything all round. Which. Who do you think delivers the better, the better product. [00:26:06] Speaker A: Better product. I was going to say value for money. You can probably get something off TAMU that does the job. But if it's hard, if I was starting from scratch, I still gravitate towards GoPro for traditional action cameras, but if I was starting from scratch, it would be hard not to look at DJI as far as value for money. And also like, because those OSMO actions have been very, very solid. [00:26:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:33] Speaker A: And the way that everything kind of works Together as a ecosystem. Yeah, with their mics and stuff. But the. The other brands are starting to get that as well. Yeah, insta360's got a mic. Their action cams are great. Look, honestly, they're probably all so close now that it doesn't matter too much. Picks one that what works with your ecosystem likes and. Yeah, but yeah, I would. I would probably lean towards maybe a DJI OSMO Action if I was just sort of looking for a value for money action cam. But yeah, it really depends on what you're after. I don't know. And so actually that. That probably set a good segue into Dji's room. [00:27:11] Speaker B: It is. Simon Pollock's joined the chat. Hey, Simon. [00:27:15] Speaker A: Hey. [00:27:15] Speaker B: Max has a shiny head. What does that mean? [00:27:20] Speaker A: I don't know. Is it the top of the map? I don't know. I need to have a look at it now and see if. Hey, Simon does actually have a shiny head. [00:27:28] Speaker B: And Nev says, I'd love a GoPro with a Zoom, even a 50 mil. [00:27:35] Speaker A: Van Neistat did that. Check out Van Neistat's YouTube channel. [00:27:43] Speaker B: Did he hack one? [00:27:45] Speaker A: Yeah, he's got. Is it C mount? Is there a C mount? Anyway, he got a GoPro modified to take these weird lenses. If you've never watched his stuff, he's Casey Neistat's brother. If you've ever watched his stuff, he's. Yeah, he's pretty wild and interesting. Very creative. DIY's everything, customizes everything. And yeah, he's got this GoPro that he makes films with and it's got these bizarre lens mount on it. He said it cost a fortune, I bet. And I think he's hand painted on it that like some famous cinema camera brand like Alexa or Ari Alexa or something. Like the little logo on there. Yeah. What was I doing? Looking for dji. Dji, what are they up to? [00:28:32] Speaker B: So which one are we going with? The OSMO nano first or the other? [00:28:36] Speaker A: The nano. [00:28:38] Speaker B: All right, so DJI is at it again. They're releasing the OSMO Nano, which is a small modular action camera. And it's coming out tomorrow. Well, or the next day, depending on where they announce. [00:28:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I think tomorrow evening in Australian time. I think. [00:28:53] Speaker B: Now this appeals to me because it's small, it's lightweight, you know, and it would make, you know, capturing some video much simpler for me, you know, playing around with the camera settings on my Fuji. I just don't get it, you know, and I've said this before, you know, I don't do video. I think I've maybe done video once in my life as a photographer. But, yeah, I think, you know, this. This is really appealing. It. It offers sort of a fun and accessible entry into action videography, I think. All right, what do we know about it, Justin? [00:29:30] Speaker A: I don't know much about it, but we're going to find out right now and see how much they've got leaked. But basically it looks like it's magnetic. It's got the little clippy things that DJI have done before, but I believe it's also got magnets on both sides, so you can just attach it to stuff. But, yeah, Rick's like, yeah. Is this going to be what the DJI Action 2 should have been? Potentially. It's because it was modular as well. This looks like a closer form factor to the insta360go3s or whatever they got up to. I don't know. Are you familiar with. Have you guys seen those little ones? [00:30:04] Speaker B: No. [00:30:04] Speaker A: Really? [00:30:05] Speaker B: I mean, I've seen. [00:30:06] Speaker C: Not the tiny ones that you can like. [00:30:08] Speaker A: Yeah, because they. They just recently released the Go Ultra, which is actually bigger, and it's the closest competitor to this. Gosh. We're going on a journey now. So it's. It's like a pod. Oh, wow. And so this. [00:30:28] Speaker B: I've never seen that one. [00:30:30] Speaker A: Really? It's. So it's new. It only come out. We must have missed it when it came out. [00:30:34] Speaker B: Okay. [00:30:34] Speaker A: It's an iteration on what they've been doing. It's actually bigger but far better quality than what they have been doing. But. Yeah, so you can see there. That's the way they've designed it to be used, like on a magnet to hold it. You can wear it, like as a pendant kind of thing and get POV footage. And this is. This POV footage is verging on, like, GoPro quality in a very, very small form factor. But it essentially relies on the dock for additional charging and that sort of stuff. So it. [00:31:10] Speaker C: The short, short stuff with it out. [00:31:14] Speaker A: Of the dock, you can do it to get a decent time, but then you recharge it in the dock. Yeah. [00:31:20] Speaker B: But the dock itself is also. You can actually carry the whole thing around. Like a camera. [00:31:25] Speaker A: Exactly. Like a GoPro. Yeah, correct. But it come from. Hang on. Why is it so hard to navigate their website? What is happening here? All right, so it came from. Where is it? This one. Go3s is the most recent. That's not. [00:31:44] Speaker B: Yep, I have seen that. [00:31:46] Speaker A: That's not it. That's not what I Was trying to show you. This is the worst website to navigate I've ever seen. What's happening? Come on into the 360. [00:31:56] Speaker B: That looks like one of Jim's photos. [00:32:00] Speaker C: They're pretty good photos. [00:32:01] Speaker A: This is crazy. How could it possibly be so hard to get to a product? Here we go. I'm gonna click it. There we go. Hey, this one, this was the same. This form factor's been out for like three or four years now. And so they ended up on Go3s. They were quite average in terms of quality when they first came out, but the Go3s ended up being pretty good. And it's even smaller. And so I would imagine that the DJI is going to be slightly bigger than this, but probably smaller than the Insta360 Go Ultra. If you look at like this form factor and the size of the lens and stuff and the size of this body, it's. It's going to be bigger than that, but not much bigger. It'll be very interesting. So they've all got run built in memory, but it's also got micro SD and then. Yeah, fast charging, ultralight, 50 grams with remote shooting. But yeah, see how big that. That looks there on that hat? [00:32:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:00] Speaker A: And they got the big ugly DJI logo on it because they want to promote their own brand. [00:33:06] Speaker B: Okay. [00:33:07] Speaker A: Compare that to like when they had these, they had a hat mount for these in black that's white. So it's a bit ugly. But it was much more like it. You could really sort of fly under the radar while you were using it. People used to like a lot of influences and stuff. They were just wearing them on a hat to the supermarket and like talking people through their shopping and stuff like that. And no one would really notice because they weren't. They were just filming like what they're putting in their shopping basket. [00:33:39] Speaker B: There's a comment here from Rick Nelson I just want to jump to. It says those overheat easy with recording limits. So if DJI can avoid overheating and good record times, that will be great. [00:33:53] Speaker A: Well, I'd say based on the fact that it is. Hang on, that it is so much bigger that they've probably overcome some of that stuff and it's probably, I'd say going to go more head to head with the Go Ultra newer one. So we'll see, we'll see how that goes. Speaking of DJI, did you see this? So they released the mini 5 Pro drone last week, which we didn't really talk about, and it's got a 1 inch sensor seems great and it's the sub 250 gram category. They're mini drones so they're in the US we can. I don't know if you can get these in the US yet but in. [00:34:35] Speaker B: I don't think they are. I don't think they're available because of. [00:34:39] Speaker A: That 250 gram gram mark is like a limit in terms of whether you need to register it and stuff like that. So it's quite an important limit. Anyway there's been a lot of stuff about the fact that it might not actually be sub 250 because it's like people are weighing it and it's like 254, 256 right in that so. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah See look at Simon toying with a Mini 5 Pro. But the whole 253 gram thing is interesting. It is. [00:35:11] Speaker B: What does that mean here for us in Australia? [00:35:14] Speaker A: Nothing for us I don't believe because we have this, we have the. There is a 250 gram and under category but then there's also the. Or sorry sub 250 gram category but there's the sub 2 kilo category is fine for here for general usage because we have to register them anyway. So I, I believe the difference in some of the other places where you can fly it. Yeah, yeah this is it basically slightly closer to man towers at airport. I don't know what that means as in so. So there's a restricted, restricted range around airports. I can't remember. Oh yeah off the top of my head but say it's like. Say it's like 2 kilometers. Sub 250 grams might be like 500 meters or it's not but you know what I mean as in for that but for general other usage it's. It's not really a difference. It's a major difference over 2 kilos 30 meter rule still applies. Yeah because we've got a lot of rules that other countries don't around like where you can fly what you can fly over and that sort of stuff. So they're already kind of restricted anyway like fairly restricted, fairly well regulated and yeah so going sub 250 isn't a major issue obviously the benefits of sub 250 is as well light and easy to pack and stuff but yeah travel 250 grams doesn't matter like if it's 253 doesn't really matter for us but. [00:36:51] Speaker B: Yeah but it is interesting as Simon said that you know they're claiming it's in this category but Actually, it's slightly over. You know what's there? [00:37:01] Speaker A: What is this? And. And an authority that only finds you if you fly it to Bunnings. Okay. [00:37:07] Speaker C: I think someone flew to Bunnings with money on it to pick up some sausages and then they brought it home. [00:37:13] Speaker B: They're sitting in the spa waiting for the sausages from Bunnings. I'm pretty sure that. Yeah, yeah, that was about a year ago. [00:37:21] Speaker A: I'm out of the loop. [00:37:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:24] Speaker A: But yeah, apparently the specs on that thing, like, nice big sensor. Like, I'm assuming it's very close to my Osmo Pocket 3. So the quality would be great for such a small drone. A 9k fine. And as Aussies crowdfunded the fine for these people. [00:37:44] Speaker B: Yeah, you can't. You can't, you know. You know, you can't keep a sausage from a man. Like, they need to have sausage. [00:37:52] Speaker A: That's right. [00:37:53] Speaker B: Every good man needs a sausage. All right, well, that's DJI news. Let's have a look. Lacy, the people that make the. The orangey, you know, outdoorsy hard drives. Thank you. Already lost my words. They've just announced a new generation of rugged SSD 4 USB. 4 external SSDs. So that was just a little news snippet that I wanted to share with everybody because I know a bunch of people that use those. [00:38:25] Speaker A: Yeah. Apparently the read speeds up to 4,000 megabytes a second and the same as usual where they're like water, dust and drop resistant. USB C4 Thunderbolt compatible. Shock. [00:38:39] Speaker B: Thunderbolt 4 is. [00:38:40] Speaker A: It doesn't say on this little listing. Thunderbolt 5. Well, better. But I mean, it probably doesn't matter. It'll be then a matter of how fast the drive itself is. [00:38:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:55] Speaker A: I assume would be limiting it rather than four or five. I don't know. But anyway, no doubt they'll be expensive. It looks like. What does this say? 4 7, 5 0. 479 US for what size? For the 4 terabyte. But that also doesn't make sense because the 1 terabyte says 345. The 2 parabola says 230 and the 4 terabytes is 479. So I wouldn't. We'll just. Let's just wait till later. [00:39:20] Speaker C: I'd buy two. Two terabytes. Good value. [00:39:22] Speaker A: Seems like a better deal. [00:39:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Let's move on to some camera news. In the world of Sony. There is a very heavy rumor that the new Sony a7.5 with a new sensor is coming out later this year. Either October or November. And also let's talk about this first. The A7 5, obviously the A7 IV was considered a cracker of a camera. Very pro, like, pro level bodies. [00:39:59] Speaker A: Sure. One of the, like that line has been super, super popular for a long time. I mean it is the mirrorless line that started everything you would argue the just the standard A7 line and then it was the variants with the high res A7R variants and then the A7S variance of the low light video centric stuff started to come out and obviously got both really popular for their own strengths. But that middle of the road, a 7R 3 and 4, just, they must sell bucket loads of those. [00:40:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yep. And it's fair, I think it's fair to say that Sony paved the way for other brands to, you know, to move to mirrorless. Definitely that were very early in the game and as a result dominated for quite some time. [00:40:47] Speaker A: Yeah, until now. [00:40:49] Speaker B: Oh yeah. [00:40:51] Speaker A: Canon baby. Okay, so let's see, what are they, what are the, what are the rumors? So the rumors are they're likely to have an announcement for a new lens first and then some weeks later the A7R A7 gosh, they, they're getting hard the A7 5 after that. Apparently a source told Sony Alpha rumors that it was originally slated for earlier this year, but the tariffs might have been a bit of a reason to hold and just wait and see happens with those before they do the launch. And there's still still strong demand for other cameras in their lineup. So like maybe would have caused production issues to launch this one while they still had so much demand for other models. So specs potentially a new sensor. [00:41:45] Speaker B: And. [00:41:46] Speaker A: More of an evolution than a revolution. So not a massive leap. [00:41:55] Speaker B: No, but I mean the A7IV has been out for some time, hasn't it? [00:41:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:41:59] Speaker B: Yeah. The rumored lens is coming before this rumored launch is a Sony 100 mil F 2.8 GM macro. And according to the rumors it's coming in a week on the 30th. [00:42:13] Speaker A: Okay, so and then this one. October. November. [00:42:18] Speaker B: Yep, that was the rumor. [00:42:21] Speaker A: Yeah, it'll be interesting. Be interesting because yeah, there's lots of stuff rumored like the Canon here. One we can go to that soon. Like this. Where are we? The Canon R6 Mark III is rumored. [00:42:40] Speaker B: It is indeed. [00:42:42] Speaker A: If I can get it to load. No, can't get it to load. Nothing's working tonight, especially the Bluetooth. I want to try it again. [00:42:50] Speaker B: Oh my God. So a little bit of Canon news. Not that anyone cares, but there's rumors that The Canon EOS R6 Mark III is the next full frame release. And there's also a bit of clarity around some of Canon's point and shoot. So the Canon PowerShot G7X Mark III, it went out of stock for a very long time. All the major retailers were saying, you know, out of stock. Some just completely delisted it from their websites. But in recent developments, Canon saying it's, it's coming back, that they're powering a hip with production. And I, I've got a bit of a hunch, you know, we, we've seen all brands pretty much pull away from making cheap point and shoot compacts or even, you know, kind of enthusiast level point and shoot contacts, point and shoot cameras, I should say. And it looked like they were all sort of pulling away because there were all these Temu slash Temu versions that were coming out for 50, 60, you know, 100 bucks to move. To move. Sorry, it's the South Yarra in me. And. Yeah, and Canon have come out saying that the G7X Mark III is, is still in production and it is still will be available for purchase soon. They're hoping to restock all, all outlets and retail stores. So it's interesting and I wonder. Sorry, the point I was trying to get to was that, you know, I wonder whether they went oh crap like Fujifilm and other brands are dominating with smaller compact cameras. Maybe we need to stay in the game because last week we talked about that new little Ixus point and Shoot that they released as well. [00:44:31] Speaker A: Yeah, but it's kind of a different thing though. There's a big difference between like Fujifilm staying in a game with x100 iterations. And then as much as I hate it, the X half being at least a very different proposition rather than just like continuing to sell the same point and shoots with maybe with slightly refreshed specs or whatever. Like there's a big difference in that. You wouldn't look at one and be like, oh, if we just do this, we'll sell the same amount of stuff. [00:45:02] Speaker B: Like it's like I said, it's not, I'm not saying that's what they've done, but it feels that way. And they've already got the machines tooled, they've already got the engineering done, you know, basically, basically you just turn the factory back on and get them out again. That's, that's at least you might, you might recapture some of the market, you know. [00:45:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Tony wants to know, is Jim back to matching his flanny to his background lights again. That's a good question. [00:45:31] Speaker C: It does have you, Tony. My background lights have been the same for weeks now. [00:45:37] Speaker B: Hey, Tony. [00:45:38] Speaker A: He's lost interest. He used to put effort into the show. Now it's. No, no. [00:45:43] Speaker C: I'm trying to. Because otherwise we end up matching all the time. Because you would also do different ones. [00:45:50] Speaker B: Although mine's gone purple in the back. [00:45:52] Speaker A: Trying to get the live call ins happening made us a new intro. I've been working hard. [00:45:58] Speaker B: Justin's office looks like a pride flag. It's beautiful. [00:46:02] Speaker A: This is. This is the colors of the Bahrain F1 race. I think that's what Philip. She told me. Something like that. [00:46:10] Speaker B: I can't believe that's an option. [00:46:11] Speaker A: Yeah. So I've got Singapore F1 race, Bahrain options. I've got a lot of options in here. Different moods. [00:46:20] Speaker C: Cancun looks like Motown yellow, Canon red, and you just need Fuji green. [00:46:26] Speaker B: Oh, it is. It's on the bottom, see? Yeah. Who uses blue? [00:46:30] Speaker C: Is that. Is that why. [00:46:34] Speaker B: He'S gone with the Bahrain F1? [00:46:36] Speaker A: That's right. It's slightly modified Bahrain. Yes. Tony, the Christmas podcast was awesome. It was great. [00:46:43] Speaker C: Very awesome. [00:46:44] Speaker B: Very cool. And such a humble guest. [00:46:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:46:47] Speaker B: You know, really humble about his craft. And it's great. Let's go on with the news because Justin's still trying to work out how to. [00:46:57] Speaker A: I'm putting him in his phone. [00:46:59] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:47:00] Speaker A: I've given. I've given as much as I. I think what I will need to try and do is just restart the whole Rodecaster because it's connected like it says. It's not now. [00:47:09] Speaker B: Not now. After the show. After the show, what happens? Shut up, Jim. I just wanted to. There's a graphic. Justin, can you bring up this graphic? It's the size comparison. [00:47:24] Speaker A: I'm getting troubleshooting help. What are your settings? I don't know who this is, but I love it. Who is this? I don't have anyone's numbers saved, so I don't know who's helping me. [00:47:33] Speaker C: Did you get a new phone for this? [00:47:36] Speaker B: So good. Of course he did. [00:47:40] Speaker A: Someone put me in a brown. [00:47:42] Speaker B: The brown. What is that? [00:47:48] Speaker A: It's a Brownlow medal and it. Oh, that says Round one technology fail. Round one vote Mark Zuckerberg. Two votes Optus, three votes J. Castles. Who is this? [00:48:07] Speaker C: That looks like a Tony or a Grant. Kind of. Grant likes a Photoshop. [00:48:12] Speaker A: Oh, that is so good. Hang on, hang on, hang on. I just got it. So what are my settings? Yeah, I'm on Mix minus. I'm on mix minus. Okay, what we talking about? [00:48:30] Speaker B: Let's bring up the size comparison. Not between us, but between the three cameras. There's a link. No, we're not doing that contest. We're not doing that today. [00:48:38] Speaker A: We can't do that on YouTube. No, you know, hang on, let me get the link. Size comparison between. Oh, yeah, FX360, 50 and I'll bring it up. [00:48:49] Speaker B: We talked a lot about this last Monday night. Last Monday we had Bruce on and we talked about all of these new cine cameras releases because the ZR had dropped 24 hours earlier. The Canon C50 dropped somewhere in there. You know, Fujifilm went and announced a $30,000 cine camera using a GFX sensor. But I found this today when I was looking at the news sites. And it's a really interesting look at the difference in the camera bodies between, you know, each of the three brands. And the, you know, the Canon is a beast in comparison. Still a relatively compact cine camera. But I, you know, I think where Canon is, is winning in this game personally, is, is their heat dissipation, you know, the big fan in the back, that sort of thing. So I haven't seen anything yet about whether the ZR is prone to overheating. It is quite a compact body. It must be very, very tightly packed in there when you, when you consider the size of it. Yeah, it just sort of be interesting to show people. [00:49:57] Speaker A: I agree with Simon. They do have a red button and that is nice. It is the big red button. But yeah, it's. It is, it is slightly. Also slightly more suited to someone that wants to shoot some stills. And there has been some videographers mentioning that, that like, hey, I shoot some stills and I can definitely get away with this though it's capable enough. It's. It's ergonomic enough to shoot stills with it. Even though it doesn't have a shutter. It's going to be limited. It's not as good as a. As a hybrid photo video camera like the R5 Mark II is. But if you're primarily video, yeah, this could get you out of. Definitely get you out of trouble. And it's. But the most interesting take I thought was the take that Bruce had. Not the most interesting take, sorry, it's more the opposite. So the most straight down the line take of. Of course, it's an FX3 killer. It's like three or four years newer, you know, so it's like Canon has leapfrogged, but it's not Like Sony has done a bad job with the FX3. It just came to mind a lot sooner and they'll get a rate on that and, and I'm sure do their thing. But the size comparison is. I didn't realize how much thicker the C50 was. [00:51:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Because all we'd ever seen to that up until when we spoke about it last week was front on views or the, or the back at most. [00:51:22] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:51:22] Speaker B: And I came across the front. [00:51:24] Speaker A: Yeah, the front. You're like, oh, yeah, it's a little bit bigger, but you know. [00:51:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, but when you. Yeah, so, yeah. [00:51:34] Speaker A: And this. And the ZR is super compact. [00:51:37] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Which will appeal to some people. You know, we talked about last week with Bruce about how he could see some videographers using this as a potentially disposable action cam that, you know, if something happens to it, you know, it's very, it's, it's affordable, it's, you know, easy to replace all that sort of stuff. Not that I can afford to throw away a zr, but Disposable. [00:52:02] Speaker A: Yeah. But once you're in that world, once you're using like, yeah, you know, top of the line red cameras, a ZR does feel a little more disposable. [00:52:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. So there is that. Not our world. There is that. [00:52:15] Speaker A: Not our world. [00:52:16] Speaker B: There is that. That's not a lot going on in the Canon world. But then that's no surprise. However, Canon. Sorry, Nikon, I should say Nikon, sorry, Wrong. [00:52:27] Speaker A: Canon's got stuff going on. Come on, that sucks. I mean, hey, hey. [00:52:33] Speaker B: But Nikon put out a bit of a teaser. No details, you know, no meat to the bone. Just a silhouette teaser of what looks like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 identical lenses based on their, based on their silhouette. But that's all they've put out. And it's interesting that that's all they've put out since the launch of the zr. [00:52:57] Speaker C: Why can't they just give us some what we want? [00:53:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:00] Speaker A: What do you want? [00:53:03] Speaker C: I want a 10512. [00:53:05] Speaker A: 10512. You wouldn't even be able to carry that. [00:53:09] Speaker B: You're not sure. [00:53:10] Speaker C: I can carry 105. [00:53:12] Speaker B: Hey, he does CrossFit. [00:53:14] Speaker A: Well, I just, I, I wonder if. [00:53:17] Speaker B: He can flip a track to tie rose. He can carry a bloody big lens. [00:53:20] Speaker A: We did flip tractor tires on Saturday, Jim and I. Well, you didn't flip that. But you, you watched me flip them. [00:53:25] Speaker B: Did you just cheer from the sidelines, Jim? [00:53:28] Speaker A: He had his own stuff to do. Burpees Busy doing bench press. No burpees. Anyway, that's that little 100, 105, 1 4. Although would you. I mean, it would probably be $5,000. No, no. 1. They're not doing a 12 but a 1 4. Jimbo. [00:53:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:47] Speaker A: Would you. [00:53:47] Speaker C: I want to replace that. I want. [00:53:48] Speaker A: Yeah, you do. 1. A native Zed mount. [00:53:50] Speaker B: Yep. [00:53:51] Speaker A: It's an awesome lens that. [00:53:52] Speaker B: What are you using at the moment, Jim? [00:53:54] Speaker C: The 105.14. [00:53:58] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:53:58] Speaker A: With the adapter. [00:53:59] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:00] Speaker A: Oh, this is another little cinema lenses. I like that. They should. They should run with that. That's funny. [00:54:08] Speaker B: Yep. [00:54:10] Speaker A: In joke for Jim. Good one, Yelena. [00:54:14] Speaker C: I got some ideas. [00:54:18] Speaker A: We have a thing at the gym. You have to try and get to 100 classes in a certain amount of time. And Jimbo's. He's got a short amount of time to get there, so he's trying to cheat his way in somehow trying to figure out different angles on the problem. [00:54:32] Speaker B: Whatever works, Jim. Whatever gets you through. Let's jump to a little bit of Leica news at the moment. Found this interesting article. Can you bring it up please, Jay? That Leica is set to auction a whole bunch of wooden and cutaway like cameras and lenses. Now the reason why I saw this, I went, oh, this is pretty cool because the very first time I saw anything to do with lucky straps was a wooden. A model of a wooden camera that had a lucky straps on it that was hanging in a. I can't remember if it was a film lab place or whatever it was. And then I saw this article about how they've got these wooden display cameras and. And also the cutaway version that they're going to auction. And I just thought it was a really interesting look at what goes on inside a camera or a lens because often, yeah, we see these kind of diagrams that show up on like a B and H listing page where you can see like the line drawing, exploded view kind of thing. But these are actual products that they've pulled panels off or literally cut them to a certain degree so you can actually see what's going on. I think it's pretty cool. And if you scroll down, there's a M7 with a lens mounted. [00:55:44] Speaker C: Are you buying one, Justin? [00:55:46] Speaker A: It's getting all the ads. No. If I was going to spend money on Leica stuff, it'll be on one that actually takes photos. [00:55:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:54] Speaker A: And even then I'm starting to lose, lose the passion. [00:55:59] Speaker B: Greg Carrick has joined the chat to say I have a wood liker. Where did you get yours, Greg. How did that happen? I bet he got it in some sort of estate auction. [00:56:12] Speaker A: Found it somewhere. How am I gonna get your photos, Bruce? [00:56:17] Speaker B: All right, next news piece. This is big. I like this. Can we jump to the Ricoh GR article, please, boss? [00:56:27] Speaker A: I'm on it. [00:56:30] Speaker B: So Rico have announced that they're opening a new GR space, that's what it's called in Brisbane, Australia, which is huge. It's, you know, we've got Leica stores, we've got, you know, like a red dot stores. We've now got a Fujifilm house of photography. Does Canon or Nikon have a dedicated kind of flagship space in Australia? [00:56:50] Speaker A: They've. I mean Canon's got their. Actually haven't visited there. They've got one in Melbourne. [00:56:55] Speaker B: Port Melbourne. [00:56:56] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. It's like part of their CPS stuff, that's all. But I don't know the Canon Experience Store. But I don't know if it's as, you know, like, I don't know if they've designed it that way. I have to go down to see. I don't know if it's like the Fujifilm House of Photography or obviously like the way Leica do. All of their stores is very high end and I'm sure Canons is nice, but I don't know what it's designed for. Is it designed to bring people in and really show them through the whole Canon product range? [00:57:28] Speaker B: And was it just a service center? [00:57:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm not sure. But yeah, I actually saw. I think there's more of these GR stores going up around the world as well. I think I saw an article about one in like somewhere in Europe or something too. Like, I think they're popping up in various spots. [00:57:46] Speaker B: It's an interesting move and I think, I just hope that they've gotten there, you know, their manufacturing times and delivery times all sorted out. Because last year with the GR, with the GR3, even when they updated the GR3s to add the second lens option and then the ones with the filter. So they had four SKUs of the same camera or basically the same camera, plus a diary edition, plus a street edition, but no one could ever get any stock of any of them. And so I hope that this speaks to their confidence in being able to meet stock demands rather than have people wait so long that they just. They just, you know, look somewhere else for something different. [00:58:26] Speaker A: Correct me if I'm wrong, But how many GR cameras are there models of the three? [00:58:36] Speaker B: There was 7.7skus. [00:58:41] Speaker A: But it, but it is just the GR III and the variants, isn't it? [00:58:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:44] Speaker A: Like, what do you put in a GR store? [00:58:48] Speaker B: Accessories. They're probably going to follow the Leica model. Straps, accessories, bags. [00:58:53] Speaker A: There's a lot more to sell of Leicas. [00:58:57] Speaker B: Oh, of course. [00:58:58] Speaker A: You know what I mean? So, like. [00:58:59] Speaker B: No, I guess. But you walk into a Leica store and there's like a whole huge wall of straps and bags. Premium for the straps, but there's like tons. [00:59:07] Speaker A: And they have gallery cameras and lenses and stuff. I'm just like, it is for a brand that's so centered around one model, it just seems really interesting to have it. Yeah. [00:59:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:22] Speaker A: Like a whole store. It's a big move is what I'm saying. I'm not saying it's good or bad or anything like that. I'm like. But it is a big move to have an entire concept store based around one point and shoot. [00:59:33] Speaker B: Yeah. Especially when, you know, retail space is so expensive to rent. [00:59:37] Speaker A: That's what I mean. It just seems very odd. I don't know if it's. But if it would be my strategy. [00:59:45] Speaker B: Because Jim and I. Jim and I haven't discussed this yet, but we're fairly sure that this, this, this needs a. [00:59:51] Speaker A: Road trip to Brisbane. [00:59:53] Speaker B: Yeah. I think we need to go and take a truckload of straps and say, here, this is what you need to put with your cameras. [00:59:58] Speaker A: They don't have. They don't have strap plugs on them. [01:00:01] Speaker B: Oh, they don't either. [01:00:02] Speaker A: So small. They've got like this little strap lug that you can basically attach a hairband too. Yeah. Maybe Pentex stuff. [01:00:11] Speaker B: Yeah, but they're cool. There's other Ricoh cameras. There's those tough. The tough underwater. [01:00:16] Speaker A: But it's not called a Ricoh store. It's called a GR store. I know, it's really interesting. [01:00:21] Speaker B: I know. But we need to go up there and have a look for ourselves. [01:00:23] Speaker C: So there's many other things we would do first, I think. [01:00:29] Speaker B: Hey. Hey, Jim. I was trying to get us a trip to Brisbane. What's with the backpedaling? But, yeah, it's great. Great to see. [01:00:37] Speaker A: You know, it is good to see. [01:00:38] Speaker B: I mean, all success to. To Rico gr. It will be interesting to see how successful it is and how long it lasts, you know, and if. I mean, if people are looking for stock and they've always got it, well, then that's great. You know, if you can't find a GR in a camera store, but the. The concept sources have got it, well, you're gonna go there, aren't you? Yeah. What else we got left in the news? We'll get to the meta thing in a minute. One last little. I know. I saw that one. One other little tidbit. Italy passes a groundbreaking AI law targeting criminals who make deep fakes. And I don't want to go into too much but basically it's. The Italian government have recognized that there's a need for regulation and I think. Was it a couple of months ago? Was it Norway imposed laws that you can't use someone's likeness with AI because that the people own their own face? Like you can't use them in fakes. I own my face. I know that makes me think of. What was that movie? Face off with John Travolta and Nicholas Cage. Terrible action movie ever. [01:01:52] Speaker A: I'm gonna take his face off. [01:01:55] Speaker B: But they showed so many bullet. Yeah. They fired so many bullets at each other and no one got shot. [01:02:00] Speaker A: It was so good. It was so good. [01:02:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:08] Speaker A: Okay. What else? Is that it? [01:02:10] Speaker B: That's pretty much it. [01:02:12] Speaker C: Can you. The next segment. Justin. [01:02:15] Speaker A: Justin, you need help? Nano banana. Me? No, I can. Let me see if I can get down to them. Yeah. I still can't. What is happening tonight? Nothing's working. Yeah. Okay. Count me in. 3, 2, 1. I called this segment Glasses Half Full because I think Greg looks silly with his glasses on. Now if anyone saw the thumbnail of this episode and has been watching the news. Meta announced their first. Their ray ban smart glasses that have a display in them. The newest version. They've also released updated ray ban of the camera glasses, whatever they call those things. But these ones have a display in them. Have you guys seen it? [01:03:13] Speaker C: No. Not at all. [01:03:14] Speaker B: Only in sourcing this info for the. [01:03:17] Speaker A: Let me. Let me pull up a couple of little pictures. But it's quite insane what they've been able to do in such a short amount of time because. Has the chat been keeping an eye on it? Does anyone care? Can. Can anyone see the connection with. With what we do as photographers and the fact that we're going to end up with little screens on our faces? [01:03:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:49] Speaker A: So check. Check this out. Like it's got a little screen on this side. Only one side has a screen. You'd make a spectacle of yourself. That's right. That's. Did you see that? I titled this thing. It was called Camera spectacles because that's what these are. They're camera spectacles. They've got cameras in them. Which is the same as the other meta Ray bans that were out that had the cameras in them. But that just had, that had no display. This has a display. [01:04:18] Speaker B: So you. [01:04:20] Speaker A: And not only does it have a display, it's got a wristband that can sense electrical impulses in your hand so you can write text messages with your fingertips on your leg. It's crazy. And these are going to retail for 7.99 US. [01:04:37] Speaker B: Why on your leg anyway? [01:04:40] Speaker A: You just need, you need something to like, I don't know, you probably do it in the air. I don't know people. But the, just the, the demonstrations were on people's legs. But yeah, like they are chunkier. They do they in the, in the, in the keynote suites. They did make Zuckerberg look like the, the biggest nerd in the world because. [01:05:02] Speaker B: They'Re like those toy glasses used to get in the kit with fake nose and the mustache. [01:05:06] Speaker A: A little bit, A little bit. They are a bit thicker. But apparently all of the famous YouTubers that have tried them on already said they are surprisingly light and they felt like glasses to wear. Not like some sort of weird contraption that you're not going to want to put on. They were very surprised and they did look despite being chunkier than a normal pair of glasses. So that's the band. [01:05:30] Speaker B: But yeah, but there's a bit here that says that it can also. The screen on the right eye can also be used as like an EVF for the camera so you can frame what's going to be in the shot. It'll come up with frame lines. [01:05:44] Speaker A: That's right. Yeah. [01:05:46] Speaker B: That's crazy. [01:05:47] Speaker A: So that's where I was going with this is the future of photography. Like when is Canon going to allow the camera to connect to this so that you can, you can hold the camera in any way, in any direction and be able to frame it up without having to put. You don't have to put your face near the camera. You don't have to have line of sight to the screen. Your viewfinder is next to your eye while you've got a heads up display of everything around you and the camera. That means could. Could cameras one day not have screens? They only have a screen for, you know, emergency menu purposes. And then does that mean cameras could be smaller? Like could this revolutionize camera design? [01:06:33] Speaker B: Not sure. I don't think so. [01:06:35] Speaker A: You guys have no sense of adventure. [01:06:39] Speaker C: Or you're, you're big on. I know you're glasses are gonna replace the phone is what you think. [01:06:45] Speaker A: Trust me. This is going the way of the pocket watch. It's disappearing and it's gonna, we're Gonna look back at people pocket watching, you know, looking at like old time is. Oh, remember when you used to have an old pocket watch? Remember the iPhone? Grandpa, where is your iPhone? [01:07:05] Speaker B: Grandpa, where's your iPhone 86? [01:07:07] Speaker A: Is it up in the attic? I want to have a look at it. Yeah, that's what it's going to be like. And then. [01:07:16] Speaker C: Eric said, I already wear. [01:07:18] Speaker A: Glasses, you know, to get new ones. Great. [01:07:21] Speaker C: All of it. Mission impossible for me. Yeah, yeah, I can see what you mean, Justin. And it would make getting creative angles easier. Yes. [01:07:29] Speaker B: Yeah, it certainly could. [01:07:31] Speaker A: And then, and then that's not even like talking about the lifestyle that this, how this is going to change the way that people interact with each other. Shopping shot, like, it's got turn by turn directions that it knows where you're facing, so you can just bring directions up and walk and it'll turn the map around to where you've got to go and all that sort of shit. So. [01:07:50] Speaker B: But I wonder if it will have. Hang on. I wonder if they'll build in a driving safety mode because the last thing they want is someone driving that's concentrating on their screen while texting on their leg. [01:08:01] Speaker A: It's going to have karma that'll probably allow you to have, you know, like, it's going to have all that stuff for sure. It'll be like, you know, like, we had this with the phone, then all of a sudden every car's got carplay. Like this will end up integrated into cars. You'll get in the car and it'll connect and it'll, you know, like, like we had that issue with the phones and it's been sorted and enhanced and made. All cars all of a sudden have Apple CarPlay and Android Car and all that stuff. [01:08:26] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:08:26] Speaker A: So, yeah, pretty good. This is where it's heading. I'm open to being challenged. [01:08:35] Speaker B: I think it all depends on price. So the Apple Vision Pros came out. What did they cost? They were ridiculous. [01:08:42] Speaker A: Four grand, five grand? I don't know. [01:08:44] Speaker B: And I've yet to see one in the wild. [01:08:46] Speaker A: Yeah. But the problem with those is everyone said, wow, amazing proof of concept. We can see where this is going. Kind of heavy and annoying to wear for a long period of time. And then it's like, you know, it's almost like everyone's waiting for the Apple Vision Pro 2 to be like, all right, I could probably drop three or four grand on something if it's like ready to work. Not something that's like test, test out tech. But I think my concern, people Use them for. Use the Vision Pro for video work, which I find insane. [01:09:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:19] Speaker A: So some people, I guess, are already using it. [01:09:21] Speaker B: Yeah. And I get. And I think that that's what it's about. There's like specific use cases where people A, have the money and B, have the act need. And then there'll be people that just have money and don't have a need, but want to have it, you know, but my concern with this sort of stuff, wearable stuff, is that. And we saw it in the gaming industry where, you know, every. Every VR headset that they've tried to launch, no matter how fantastic they make it sound, they just fail. They fail to sell numbers because it's such a high entry point and there's such little content available. And I know these are different to what I'm talking about, but I do wonder whether we're not quite ready for wearable content creation products on mass. [01:10:03] Speaker A: Oh, we're ready. It's coming. [01:10:04] Speaker B: Oh, you're. [01:10:05] Speaker A: Well, you're ready. No, no, no, I'm not ready. [01:10:08] Speaker C: You're ready already. [01:10:09] Speaker A: It's. [01:10:09] Speaker C: You've been practicing for years. [01:10:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, I know. I have since I was 21. [01:10:14] Speaker A: What's interesting is it's coming from both directions. We've got the Vision Pros and the top end, whatever they are. Vive or all those ones. All the top end gaming stuff in the Vision Pro is coming from, like, most capable, most immersive. [01:10:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:30] Speaker A: But the fact that you've got. And. And you know, Oculus and now Meta is Oculus are doing that too. They're doing that stuff. And that's where a lot of this tech's coming from. And then on the other end, you've got the money of Meta and the nerdiness of Zuckerberg. [01:10:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:46] Speaker A: Going hard with Ray Ban and Oakley. [01:10:49] Speaker B: Yeah, that's like. That's smart, abs. [01:10:52] Speaker A: So smart to break that back. Because if these were just Meta glasses and, you know, and they didn't have that Ray Ban shape. [01:10:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:00] Speaker A: People would be very hesitant. But the fact that they're like, oh, I've already got Ray Bans and now. [01:11:05] Speaker B: People love the brands. That's the thing, isn't it? Oakley's and Ray brands. It's like, you know, it's almost a bragging piece, you know, such beautiful optics. So tell us what happened with the live. Live stream. Apparently there was lots of shenanigans on its own. [01:11:24] Speaker A: No. So let me see. I'm gonna pull up. Hopefully we don't get dinged for using this I'm gonna pull up. It was actually in mkbhd. I forget his name. You know, the Marquis Bramley, the tech reviewer guy is watching his review because they're always really good. And you put this on. Where are we? Hang on. Tell me if you can hear this. So this is the keynote that Zuckerberg gave the Apple style, like the Steve Jobs style. We're changing the world. Thousand songs in your pocket keynote. And this was part of it. This isn't going to be convincing anyone. [01:12:11] Speaker C: What do I do first? [01:12:14] Speaker B: You've already combined the base ingredients, so. [01:12:17] Speaker A: Now grate a pair to add to the sauce. [01:12:22] Speaker B: What do I do first? You've already combined the base ingredients, so. [01:12:28] Speaker A: Now and gently combine it with the base sauce. All right. I think the WI fi might be messed up, so that's one of them. And I love that so much because this is like the equivalent of when. When Elon Musk made the bulletproof cyber truck and then smashed the window and they've been testing it and then he come out and smash the window with a ball bearing on stage. And everyone was just like, oh, it's the equivalent of that. Right. This one was. I think this one was not ideal either. WhatsApp video call. There we go. [01:13:04] Speaker B: Uh. [01:13:05] Speaker A: Oh. Well, I. [01:13:08] Speaker B: Someone writing. [01:13:09] Speaker A: What happened there? That's too bad. [01:13:14] Speaker B: I don't know what happened. [01:13:16] Speaker A: The iron. Anyway, they blamed it on the WI fi. But it. This is the thing with all this stuff and it's the same with. The same with AI. It's like, it's scary how fast it's moving and it's amazing what they've been able to do in such a short amount of time. But there's still going to be glitchy and have issues especially early on, like this. So this has got apps, but they're all. There's no app store yet. It's all locked down to just what comes with the glasses, obviously. It's like there's meta maps and a few other things. Like you can play music through it, you can do video calls. That's actually kind of cool because you can video call and they see what you see and you see their face because they're holding their phone like this or whatever. [01:14:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:06] Speaker A: So. So I could video call you and be hands free doing something and you can see what I'm doing and I can see your face. So it's like there's. It's definitely going to change the way that the world works. [01:14:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:19] Speaker A: In five to ten years, maybe faster. [01:14:22] Speaker B: I don't know. I Could see how that could also become like military tech. [01:14:29] Speaker A: Probably already is. I don't even know. Yeah, yeah. Profit already is. But you can watch the podcast on your glasses. Yeah, you could watch this podcast on your glasses, but just while you're strolling down the street and because it's got speakers in it, it's all. It's all in there. It's quite amazing. It's got a really cool folding charging case. [01:14:53] Speaker B: Rick brings up a very good point. I'd wear it until they send me ads through my glasses. So meta. So what is. What does meta own? They own Facebook and Instagram. [01:15:02] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:15:04] Speaker B: And WhatsApp, you know. Oh, yeah. But with, with the social media platforms, Facebook and Instagram, like, you know, ads are very, very heavy, a very heavy presence. But yeah, it's interesting whether they'll. I guess it depends on what content you connect to, doesn't it? [01:15:22] Speaker A: This is the thing. [01:15:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:23] Speaker A: The ads, the ads them aren't going to arrive on the glasses themselves. They're going to arrive on the apps you choose to use. That's the way. It's the same as the iPhone. We don't get ads on our iPhones, but we get ads on every app the iPhone has. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, like that. So that's the way around it where they're like, yeah, no, we just built the operating system, but all of that funnels through. You'll be getting blasted. Depending on what you decide is worth it. [01:15:51] Speaker B: Greg Carrick said ads will be geared to what you are seeing. So don't walk past the Maccas. It reminds me of that movie. What was that one? That Tom Cruise movie set in the future where there was the pre Science. [01:16:02] Speaker A: Minority Report. [01:16:04] Speaker B: Minority Report. And everywhere he went, the ads that he saw were geared to him because they recognized his eyeballs. [01:16:10] Speaker A: It's scary how accurate when you see the way that this neural band works with hand gestures and stuff like that. Whoever come up with Minority Report was onto something. I don't know about the weird people laying in milk predicting the future from little balls that you're going to kill someone and then you don't know. [01:16:29] Speaker B: They could already be doing it and. [01:16:31] Speaker A: Then busting in and getting you. That probably won't happen, but just the tech side of it was. Was pretty on point. [01:16:38] Speaker B: Fair call. Fair call, boss. [01:16:41] Speaker A: Yeah. Rick Nelson. Imagine walking into a store and bam. Ads appear on the glasses. Yeah, imagine this. [01:16:47] Speaker B: Or virtual assistants. [01:16:48] Speaker A: That's what I was going to say. Virtual Rick appears in your eyeball. Hey, what's happening? I'm going to help you today. [01:16:54] Speaker B: Looking at a life. You've heard it, you deserve it. [01:16:59] Speaker A: Simon Pol. Who doesn't love laying in milk? Damn right. Actually, so you're coming up here. That Vision Pro Herbert made me try his. I watched Metallica live. Mind blowing. That's where. That's something I'd like to try because I think it's potentially experiences like that that could be really groundbreaking for entertainment and immersiveness. But yeah, spending four grand for that. Although I guess people spend that kind of money on speakers and stuff. [01:17:30] Speaker B: So. [01:17:30] Speaker A: Yeah. On the side of the classes, if you know, you know who else? What else? What do you think? What do you, what do you guys have any, any sort of hot takes on the. On the ar. Do you think I'm. [01:17:48] Speaker B: No, I think you're on the side. I just think. [01:17:51] Speaker C: Well, they're not. They're not doing it. If they're not, that's where they're going. [01:17:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Sorry, sorry. Yeah, no, you go. Jim, I spoke over you. [01:18:01] Speaker A: No, no, both go at once. Three, two, one. [01:18:04] Speaker C: You go. [01:18:04] Speaker B: Great. No, I was just gonna say I think the problem with them is the accessibility and the price point, you know, and I know that this is new tech and it's gonna cost money, but as soon as I can get it. [01:18:18] Speaker A: Down, this is 7.99 US. [01:18:20] Speaker B: It's gonna be a lot of money. [01:18:22] Speaker A: It's gonna be 12 or 1300 bucks for essentially a phone you wear in your head. [01:18:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:27] Speaker A: And I. I mean, it's not bad. [01:18:29] Speaker B: They can take prescriptions. Yeah. [01:18:31] Speaker A: Yes. Yep. And. Oh, and the. What, Transformers. What do you call it? Clear. Clear. Darkies. Transition transitions. That's it. So. So it's essentially your pair of sunglasses and you don't have to take them off when you walk inside. You can't see the little screen. The people on the. Can't see the screen. [01:18:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:55] Speaker A: So it's like. It doesn't make you look like a weirdo too much. Other than the fact that they do. Look, I need to find a picture of Zuckerberg wearing them. [01:19:03] Speaker B: While you do that, I just want to jump to Simon's point. My take. AI glasses wearables are giving more ways for meta to charge for their ad network. As advertisers buy in, the hardware costs will come down, I betcha. Yeah, it's a fair call and it's. I don't know if it's a great trade off, but as with any of this sort of tech, I think accessibility for everyone is really important. [01:19:26] Speaker A: I mean, iPhones are two grand. Two and a half. [01:19:31] Speaker B: Get iPhones on a plan that you pay off over time. [01:19:33] Speaker A: Three years we had to get these on a plan. [01:19:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:19:38] Speaker A: I mean those plans cost you more. I would argue that if you need to get it on a plan. Oh yeah, get an old one, have a look. But yeah, priced one up. Not that long ago it was two and a half for an iPhone. I'm like, that's a laptop. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, they are pretty high powered too. So I get that. But it's like, yeah, it's huge amount of money. [01:20:03] Speaker B: But yeah, I wonder what will happen with this sort of stuff in the future. Like, you know, when kids go to sitting exam or you know, they're in class, they can watch content while they're in class. [01:20:15] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. And I mean, they've had those issues with phones to the point where they've had to be like either no phones in the classroom or whatever because Victorian state schools are. [01:20:26] Speaker B: Once you get to school, you can't. Your phone cannot be seen by anyone and it has to go in your locker if you found with your phone and it gets confiscated and all that sort of stuff. [01:20:33] Speaker A: So they'll just have to do that. And also hopefully these like this, it'll be like phones. Like kids aren't gonna have these soon because kids didn't have iPhones early on, but now they do. And so it'll be like these, you're not going to. Kids aren't going to have these glasses until us adults have had them for five years or whatever and it's become more normalized and cheaper and all that sort of stuff. And then by then there won't even be schools. You just. The kid will have to sit. The kid will see cardboard box that's painted black on the inside. You just sit in there rocking, just rocking the whole school day with the goggles on and you'll just. Your brain will just get pumped with whatever comes through the goggles. That has been decided by the government. [01:21:13] Speaker B: What was that? There was a movie. Oh, ready player one. Have you seen that? It was a book. It was a sci fi movie. And they all log into this, this network with these wearables and live an alternative life in the network, like a second life. Actually, there used to be a. Used to be a community game called Second Life. [01:21:31] Speaker A: Sounds very similar to Zuckerberg's metaverse plans. [01:21:37] Speaker B: Yeah. Crazy, crazy stuff. [01:21:41] Speaker A: Speaking of Zuckerberg, this is how good you could look. I think, I think these might. No, these are actually the. These are actually Their. Their full on crazy prototype. That's their. Yeah, that's not how. That's not them because they've got a full on prototype. That. That's augmented reality. Yeah. Super, super duper fancy, but yeah. [01:22:06] Speaker B: Comments from Chris Benny. G', day, Chris. [01:22:07] Speaker A: Welcome back, Chris. [01:22:09] Speaker B: Good to have you. I just ordered a set of the Meta two glasses for behind the scenes content. Maximum dor. [01:22:15] Speaker A: Maximum. [01:22:16] Speaker B: But you're not alone because our good friend Lucinda Goodwin also does that for her BTS social media reels and everything. [01:22:23] Speaker A: You didn't want to wait. You didn't want to wait for these display ones, did you? Because they come out at the same time. I think you didn't want to try the display. I'm interested. [01:22:31] Speaker B: Yeah, let us know. Craig Murphy knows what second life is. If you know, you know. [01:22:37] Speaker A: That's right. [01:22:39] Speaker B: Creepy place that was. All right, boss, what's next? [01:22:45] Speaker A: I mean, we can just go to what? You've got a box in the box. A quick. What's in the box? [01:22:49] Speaker B: I did get a box. [01:22:50] Speaker A: 3, 2, 1. 3, 2, 1. Press it now. [01:22:58] Speaker B: What's in the box? [01:22:59] Speaker A: What's in the box? Chris says they look too big and heavy. Yeah, they are bigger. I don't think they're heavy though. Everyone said they're not heavy. But anyway, let us, let us know how the, the, the meta twos go. Let us know when you've got some content coming out. [01:23:13] Speaker B: Yeah. And you know, like we talked about with Lucinda, it's a really clever, simple way to. And she doesn't need glasses, she has clear frames but she uses that to capture what she's doing for all of her. And she does amazing social media BTS stuff like really energetic and, and yeah, it's very smart. Anyway, what's in the box? So you may remember that recently I bought and received. I've got my bfop strap on this one. Lucky Straps Head to Luckystraps.com if you're looking for a premium leather camera strap made in Bendigo Victoria by Jim and Justin Manulina and some other people. [01:23:47] Speaker A: Some other people that don't come on the podcast. [01:23:49] Speaker B: Yeah, the unsung heroes. Anyway, I got my, I got my XE5 and it doesn't have a very deep grip. It's good, it's there. It's a lightweight camera. So it's, it's not everything, but I always like with my XC4, I got a grip. Now with. When the XE4 launched, Fujifilm offered their own version of a base bracket with a rubber grip on the Front that expanded the grip had Fujifilm logo and everything. On the Arca Swiss, the whole. The whole base plate was Arca Swiss type. So I think about two weeks ago, it was at the very start of the month when XC5 launched. I ordered a small rig, just a very simple kind of L bracket type thing that's got a base plate and a silicon rubber grip. And, yeah, I thought I'd save it for the show. I have taken it out of its delivery box. But let's see what's in here. Comes in a little baggie like any good lucky strap camera does. They come in little baggies? [01:24:54] Speaker A: They do. [01:24:55] Speaker B: Can't believe I said baggies. Oh. Oh. It also comes with a bright red hot shoe with a screw thread. Hot shoe thingy. What do you call them? Soft shutter release. [01:25:08] Speaker A: I was gonna say that doesn't look like a cover. It's very small. [01:25:11] Speaker C: Might be a Fujifilm. [01:25:12] Speaker A: Weird hot shoes. [01:25:13] Speaker B: Yeah, they're very tiny. So here's the plate. It's as you would expect. This is quite flexible. It's silicon, so it's not rigid. It's actually got quite a bit of give in it. There's a standard thread that goes into the tripod thread of the camera. And then on the base, interestingly, there's a hole for the camera for the battery and SD card drawer. There's two screw threads for mounting to tripods or whatever. And there's this little gap here. And the reason why this little gap here exists is because in their wisdom, Fuji put the Bluetooth button on the bottom of the camera, which I don't understand. So the Bluetooth button they've put on the bottom of the camera. [01:25:57] Speaker A: Why would you have a Bluetooth? [01:25:58] Speaker B: It's got a little. I think that's a speaker. I think that's the audio port. [01:26:01] Speaker A: What's the Bluetooth button for? [01:26:02] Speaker B: Well, probably for connecting to devices, Justin. That's what people tend to do. Bluetooth. [01:26:06] Speaker C: You could connect it to your Rodecaster. [01:26:08] Speaker A: All of them just look. I'm so annoyed. [01:26:16] Speaker B: Anyway, the other good thing with this plate, good and bad, is that it comes with this little tool which is held into the bottom of the plate with magnets. They're magic. No one knows how they work. What do they do? They're magnets. [01:26:28] Speaker A: But why is it bad? [01:26:30] Speaker B: Well, because it. It's easy for it to sort of come out. [01:26:33] Speaker A: Well, then just take it off. [01:26:35] Speaker B: No, but that's not the point. It has a space. It needs to live in its space. [01:26:40] Speaker C: You do good for your home because. [01:26:42] Speaker A: You'Re like, it's good and bad. I mean, you can fix it, the entire problem, just by taking it off. [01:26:46] Speaker B: No, I know, but I like it there. I don't know why. It doesn't matter. [01:26:49] Speaker A: Glue it in. Glue it. [01:26:51] Speaker B: I'll do. I'll do it the way I want. [01:26:52] Speaker A: Okay. [01:26:54] Speaker B: Anyway, so yeah, it. It pretty much doubles the size of the grip. It's. You know. [01:26:58] Speaker C: This is your old camera that you're showing us now. [01:27:01] Speaker B: No, this is the new one. [01:27:03] Speaker C: Oh, you fitted it already? [01:27:04] Speaker B: Yeah, that's. That's why the tool. Good. Where's the tool going? [01:27:08] Speaker C: You did that fast. [01:27:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I did. I am very quick. [01:27:11] Speaker A: Okay. [01:27:11] Speaker C: So is it comfortable? [01:27:12] Speaker B: Ask my wife. So, yeah. So it's good. It adds good comfort. [01:27:18] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:27:19] Speaker B: Cool. And it's got, again, it's got the ARCA Swiss plate all along the bottom. [01:27:23] Speaker A: Nice. [01:27:24] Speaker B: And. Yeah, so it. [01:27:26] Speaker A: Yes, yes. Bluetooth connection to the phone app. Yes, yes, yes, David, I agree. But what I don't understand is why it's got a physical button as opposed to menu like all the other cameras do. [01:27:38] Speaker B: I think that, yeah, Fujifilm are really pushing the whole get it to your phone as quickly as possible. And so they've added a button to try and encourage that behavior, I think because it's all about sharing content online. Yeah. [01:27:54] Speaker A: But yeah, with a advanced lever film. Advanced lever. [01:27:57] Speaker B: Nice little soft shutter on there. And my new grip. Real camera. Anyway, that's what's in my box. Nice. [01:28:07] Speaker C: Cool. [01:28:07] Speaker A: All right, well, I had a what's in the box? But I'm going to save it for another one. [01:28:12] Speaker B: Nothing tops mine, really. Anything will pale in comparison. [01:28:16] Speaker A: And we're flying through. We got. I've got way more images than I thought now that Jim sent through. [01:28:23] Speaker B: Jim sent them through first. [01:28:26] Speaker C: No, I put that in there. Okay, check. [01:28:31] Speaker B: I get up at 6am every Monday morning to prepare that running sheet and to scour the Internet for news articles, and you couldn't even be bothered to read it. [01:28:39] Speaker A: All right, all right, all right. I did read it. I put the DJI stuff and there's. [01:28:45] Speaker B: Don't gaslight me. Don't you guess like me. [01:28:48] Speaker A: I'll do what I want. Okay. Anyway, let me share some. Oh, no, we're gonna do the thing first. Jim. Three. You ready? Three, two, one, go. [01:29:01] Speaker B: I think we need to send the roadcaster to Jim's house. [01:29:06] Speaker C: I won't know what the colored buttons are for. [01:29:10] Speaker A: Okay, I'm going to share this. If this doesn't work, I'm going to be so mad. This doesn't look like it's gonna work. [01:29:26] Speaker B: Oh, there it is. What is? Wow, that's cool. [01:29:29] Speaker C: So small. [01:29:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:31] Speaker A: I don't understand. [01:29:34] Speaker C: We're having a great show tonight. [01:29:35] Speaker B: Yeah, you've had all day to get this ready. All day. [01:29:39] Speaker A: Well, I'm just doing it the same way I always do it. [01:29:44] Speaker B: Craig Murphy says you need to practice more. [01:29:48] Speaker A: I disagree. What is happening? Like, why is it down there? Hang on. [01:29:54] Speaker C: Why is it so small? [01:29:55] Speaker A: Maximized. No, I think Streamyard had an update today and things just aren't working the way that they're supposed to. [01:30:04] Speaker B: Oh, do you want me to bring it up? [01:30:07] Speaker A: Bring up all of the photos that have been emailed to the inbox. I can bring up Jimbos. That's easy. But I've got. [01:30:14] Speaker B: I thought that's what you're trying to do. [01:30:15] Speaker C: Bruce said this is why it's not a tech podcast. Well, it could be Bruce. Things not to do. [01:30:26] Speaker A: Simon says. Got to admit, kind of enjoying the less polished realness of it all. Yay for chaos. Look, this is probably the worst it gets, but most of them are not polished, that's for sure. But this is very. This is like really not polished. [01:30:40] Speaker B: Yeah, some broken things in Justin's office just aren't helping us. [01:30:45] Speaker A: Let me try. I wonder if I can share if this doesn't work. No, still tiny. What does that even mean? I exit that if I try sharing my entire window. I do this. [01:30:59] Speaker B: Elena asks, polished. Are they normally polished? [01:31:02] Speaker A: Never. [01:31:02] Speaker C: No, on time. Polished things we aren't known for. [01:31:07] Speaker B: All right. [01:31:09] Speaker A: Happen if I try this. Oh, this might be better. [01:31:12] Speaker B: All right. [01:31:12] Speaker A: We figured it out. [01:31:13] Speaker B: Hey, kinda. They're Jim's images. [01:31:19] Speaker A: Yeah. We can start with them coming. [01:31:20] Speaker B: Well, that's what I was going to do. [01:31:22] Speaker A: Yeah. But now I've got. I've got all. [01:31:23] Speaker C: He's got them all in Lightroom, I think. [01:31:25] Speaker A: And the other people. Okay. [01:31:31] Speaker B: It gets way worse. Just let Greg run it. [01:31:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I'd like to see you guys try. I'm like an octopus in my office. There's so much going on. Well, you guys can't see, but this. [01:31:47] Speaker C: We still can't see. [01:31:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:50] Speaker A: Okay, tell us about you had a wedding on the weekend. [01:31:52] Speaker C: Had a wedding? [01:31:53] Speaker B: Yep. [01:31:55] Speaker C: I don't know. First wedding back. [01:31:56] Speaker B: It's quite the age distance between a difference between the two of them. [01:31:59] Speaker C: No, No, I don't think so. [01:32:02] Speaker B: Was that a dad? [01:32:04] Speaker C: No. [01:32:06] Speaker B: No. I feel stupid for saying it. [01:32:09] Speaker A: Well, she looks great. [01:32:11] Speaker B: No, they both look great. Good on them. [01:32:13] Speaker C: I see. We did photos before the ceremony, so yeah, yeah, it's good. Good to be back shooting. [01:32:20] Speaker A: Any. Any insights for the listeners or you're just going to leave it at good? [01:32:25] Speaker C: It was. [01:32:26] Speaker B: Where was the shoot, Jim? [01:32:27] Speaker C: It was at Ravenswood Homestead, which is just out of Bendigo. [01:32:31] Speaker B: That's one of your favorite venues to shoot, isn't it? [01:32:35] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I like shooting there. I haven't shot there a lot, Justin and I shot there about just over 10 years ago before it was really any. Anything. But yeah, now it's. It's pretty awesome now. Cool spot to shoot. [01:32:49] Speaker B: Cool. [01:32:51] Speaker A: Let's see what else we got. [01:32:53] Speaker C: These, these are. I don't know, these are all just during the day. Yeah. So I did actually did a different sneak peek to Normal Justin. I did it on Saturday night when I got home. So I sent these through straight away and send them an email at 7am on Sunday morning. [01:33:10] Speaker B: That's so cool. [01:33:11] Speaker C: Scheduled one. Not that I was thinking about emails at 7am of course. [01:33:17] Speaker A: That's a. It's a pro tip for anyone that's new to business. Schedule your emails so you can send them. Send them when it's convenient for you, but have them arrive when it's convenient for them. [01:33:31] Speaker C: So. [01:33:33] Speaker A: Confetti. [01:33:33] Speaker B: Nice. [01:33:34] Speaker C: Yeah, the confetti worked really well and then it was pretty overcast most of the day and then the sun popped out. So I told them. And then it took a bit longer to get ready than we hoped. So we only got about a minute with the sun before it disappeared again. But still got some nice stuff. What's going on in this one, Justin? Don't zoom in. [01:34:01] Speaker B: You've got a light behind them. [01:34:04] Speaker A: Actually, I assume there's more to it than that. What's going on in this one? I'm like, what's he, what's he tampered with? [01:34:14] Speaker C: Haven't tampered with it. No, no, I haven't tampered with anything. [01:34:17] Speaker A: Ah, okay. So I'm not trying to spot your, your shoddy workmanship. [01:34:21] Speaker C: No, I did try and get rid of that white tent but it looked bad so I left it. [01:34:26] Speaker A: Yeah. So what are you asking me? [01:34:29] Speaker C: No, I just, I lit the building too. Something out of. [01:34:33] Speaker A: I actually didn't. I, I didn't notice that. I just assumed that that was an outdoor, like an outdoor light somewhere or something. So. No, I didn't, I didn't notice. Well done. [01:34:41] Speaker C: Because it's like part of their, like that built. That's quite a grand piece of the building is those white doors. So. [01:34:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:34:48] Speaker B: Nice. [01:34:49] Speaker A: It helps take away from that white Marquee? A little bit, yeah. Because it's now brighter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good call. [01:34:58] Speaker C: I probably would have underexposed more had it not have been trying to do that. [01:35:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Make the best of not much of a sunset. Nice one. [01:35:08] Speaker C: Just three lights. Simon Pollock asked four lights. Just three. So one to camera left, one directly behind the bride and groom, and then one down the ground next to a fire pit at the building. [01:35:24] Speaker A: How am I going to do this? I'm gonna have to bring up my emails over here. [01:35:28] Speaker C: Is everyone else's not in Dropbox? [01:35:30] Speaker A: I mean, yeah, no, no, but some of them have words to go with their pictures. Start with Bruce Moyle. [01:35:39] Speaker B: I love this shot. Oh, do I have it? I've got the. The. The other side of that shot of Bruce lying in the garbage in an alleyway in Melbourne on his back. He was just lying down. Are you okay if I show this photo, Brucey? Let me know, mate, and I'll send it to Justin. [01:36:02] Speaker A: Got another one that I missed from before. I'll figure that out. Or will I? Anyway, Bruce. And then. [01:36:15] Speaker C: Yep. [01:36:16] Speaker B: I've just emailed you a photo. [01:36:19] Speaker C: That's cool. [01:36:20] Speaker A: Emailed me. Okay. Yeah, hang on. [01:36:25] Speaker B: So, yeah, Bruce. Yeah, Bruce came to Melbourne on Friday. He was in between. He flew in in the morning and then had a connecting flight, but not until this afternoon. Until that afternoon. So we went on a big street walk and went to Captains of Industry, which I've taken to Justin and Yelena to in the past. Went there for a meal and a coffee and it was great. I hadn't been on a proper street walk in town for quite some time, so Bruce and I got to talk, get to know each other and catch up over stuff we shared in common. And, yeah, we did some street photography and it was a lot of fun. Oh, wow. What's going on there, Justin? [01:36:58] Speaker A: Well, if I start, I'm trying to move photos around. Hang on. And because I'm having to share my entire screen because of what's happening. It's just a bit. It's a bit chaos. [01:37:09] Speaker B: Did that photo come through? [01:37:10] Speaker A: Yep, I'm trying to get it in there now. [01:37:12] Speaker B: Excuse me, sorry. [01:37:14] Speaker A: See, this is what's happening. Look. Okay, this is crazy. Let me just remove this for one second. Talk amongst yourselves. [01:37:23] Speaker B: All right? Okay. So, Jim, how you doing? [01:37:28] Speaker C: I'm well, thanks, Craig. How's your Monday going? [01:37:31] Speaker B: A little slow to start. I had to sleep in because Brendan's on school holiday, so I didn't have to get up at 6 o'. Clock. Had a bit of a sleeping. Even had an afternoon nap. Did a bit of work in the middle. Yeah. Wrote an article. Yeah. But otherwise, what about you. [01:37:49] Speaker C: Color the wedding and then started and then called the end of a commercial shoot and then edited. How about half of the commercial shoot? [01:37:57] Speaker B: So nice. And what sort of shoot was it that you did? [01:38:01] Speaker C: I did a shoot for a theater company. So I shot there for five nights in a row, so it's about a thousand photos, so. [01:38:07] Speaker A: Oh, wow. [01:38:08] Speaker C: Yeah, it's a big shoot. Thankfully, the. The edits are pretty similar because they were all shot, like in similar conditions, so it's not too bad. But I'm still like, cropping and, you know, making sure each one looks good. [01:38:22] Speaker B: Yep. Now that's fair. Very cool. Yeah, we've got hard rubbish at the moment. A lot of rubbish out in the street. [01:38:34] Speaker C: We didn't do that. Don't do that in the country. [01:38:36] Speaker B: Now, you have a tip, don't you? [01:38:38] Speaker C: Yeah. Don't you have one? [01:38:41] Speaker B: No, I don't think so. We used to, but they turned into a housing development. [01:38:45] Speaker C: That South Yarra. [01:38:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. Be like this big kind of warehouse you drove into and there's this massive hole in the ground just full of rubbish and they had a crane to pick it up and anyway, how's everyone enjoying this chat out there on the Internet while Justin around with whatever it is he's doing? [01:39:02] Speaker A: I got it, I got it. [01:39:03] Speaker B: Oh, he's ready. All right. [01:39:04] Speaker A: It's a lot of work. [01:39:05] Speaker B: That was so hard, man. [01:39:07] Speaker A: No believes me. All right, there we go. There's. There is Bruce. [01:39:11] Speaker B: Yeah. I didn't knock him out or kill him and try to hide the body in a bin. That is Bruce taking a photo of. Of the street art up on the wall. [01:39:21] Speaker A: So, yeah, very cool. [01:39:24] Speaker B: It was very cool. [01:39:26] Speaker C: Bruce asks, is that the Fuji store? I think he's referring to the pit with the hole in it with the crush. [01:39:33] Speaker B: Wow, Bruce. Wow. Not answering that. [01:39:40] Speaker C: I'm sure. Could be. [01:39:43] Speaker A: Let's go to David Leporati. Dave. [01:39:47] Speaker B: All right. [01:39:48] Speaker A: I gotta bring out Save us, David. [01:39:49] Speaker B: Save us. [01:39:51] Speaker A: We got to add that image. Hopefully. I've got all your images, David. It's been. I've been all over the place, so if I haven't, just let me know. All right, more images. RAAF selfie in aircraft shot 1987 using Nikon FM MD to MD 12 motor drive, 17 mil Tamron lens and slide film flying in a Mackie trainer. This is the gear we had to wear in jets. The RAAF now use new type helmets and masks. We didn't fly enough to have our own gear. All right. And then that's pretty cool though. [01:40:29] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. And shot on film, so. [01:40:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:40:34] Speaker C: Yeah. Significantly harder than yeah. These days. [01:40:39] Speaker A: Okay. Superbike images shot on Fuji XT1. Fuji XF100 to 400 F5 to 5.6 at 400 mil, which is 600 mil full frame equivalent 1/400 of a second at 5, 6, 200 ISO. And I would say you have about the perfect amount of blur on those wheels and stuff. But everything else is like. It's sharp. [01:41:04] Speaker B: Yep. [01:41:06] Speaker A: Like, I love that you can see this blur, but you can tell that the wheels have spokes rather than it being. Because if you have too much blur, it becomes a disc. [01:41:16] Speaker C: You lose the spokes. Yeah. [01:41:17] Speaker A: And you lose the spokes and just looks like a. Yeah. [01:41:20] Speaker C: Floating. [01:41:21] Speaker A: So I think you've. You've nailed that. [01:41:23] Speaker B: Yeah. Must have been a very controlled panning because at 1 400th of a second that's still, you know, it's not incredibly fast of a shutter speed for that sort of thing. Yeah. [01:41:33] Speaker C: But at 600 it's still a. Yeah, I guess. [01:41:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:41:36] Speaker C: A lot of movement on it. [01:41:37] Speaker B: On it. [01:41:37] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:41:38] Speaker B: Yeah. True. Very cool. [01:41:43] Speaker A: I can't see the chat or you guys. So if you spot anything that you want to bring up, just yelling, they've all left. [01:41:49] Speaker C: Other than Bruce said, you are correct. [01:41:51] Speaker B: Jim, you're gonna hang on to that, aren't you? [01:41:53] Speaker A: Never ever. Multi tool shot on Fuji XD2 Nikon 20 millimeter f 2.8 lens on a kip on tilt shift adapter with tilt enabled to increase the depth of field along the subject plane. 1/200 of a second at FA200 ISO. Nice work with the tilt shift. Okay. Apparently now I can't even click on images. Everything's falling apart. I was going to try and zoom in, but I can't. Very nice. [01:42:25] Speaker B: Okay. [01:42:25] Speaker A: It is sharp all the way across. [01:42:27] Speaker B: It's very appealing, isn't it? [01:42:29] Speaker A: It is appealing. Looks kind of like a. Some sort of bug that's also futuristic. Futuristic bug. [01:42:38] Speaker C: That's cool. [01:42:39] Speaker A: Colored fluids. Oh, hang on. There were some more here. Oh, we gotta. We've gotta read this first. Go back. This technique is known as the shine flug principle. I can't even spell. It allows you to achieve an extended depth of field by tilting the lens or camera so that the lens plane, subject plane and image sensor plane intersect at a single point. This is achieved with special tilt shift lenses. It creates a wide wedge shaped area of sharpness that can make foreground and background elements equally sharp. Very nice, Very cool. Colored fluids in motion. Shot on Fuji XT2 Nikon 60mm f 2.8 micro lens at 125th of the second f11,200 ISO using two Godox AD 362 flash units. Manual power 1 256, which is very low power. Flash duration of 1/8,000 to 1/10,000. And then this one. Oh, I really like that one. [01:43:53] Speaker B: That's cool. [01:43:53] Speaker C: It's like hands or something. [01:43:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I really like that. [01:43:57] Speaker B: I see a dinosaur, but, you know, you stick with your hands. [01:44:05] Speaker A: Very cool. [01:44:06] Speaker B: Yep. [01:44:07] Speaker A: All right, Lisa, that's cool. [01:44:11] Speaker B: Oh, he's a big boy. He's a big boy. [01:44:14] Speaker A: Let me see if I can find Lisa's email to see if there's. [01:44:18] Speaker B: Speaking of dinosaurs, I. I find kangaroos fascinating. [01:44:21] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:44:22] Speaker B: When you see those. Those big male kangaroos stand up and they're like nine feet tall and they puff up their chest and they're. And they're like their holes, the muscles they have is insane. People think they're these cute little hop along skippies, but they're actually quite brutal when they want to be. [01:44:40] Speaker A: Lisa says last week I tried my hand at some wildlife photography with Matt Crummons. He was Ville Sanctuary. It was a great day and I may keep exploring this alongside landscape photography. I think it should. [01:44:52] Speaker B: Nice. Yeah. [01:44:52] Speaker A: Looking forward to beef up. So excited to try my hand at other genres of photography. [01:44:58] Speaker B: Very cool, Lisa. [01:45:00] Speaker A: I really like this shot. It's. Yeah, there's. That's very cool. What is that? F. 8, 8ths of a second. 370 millimeters. Yeah, let's go. Oh, black and white. It's the way to go. [01:45:17] Speaker C: Yeah, I like the, the grass kind of coming out behind it. [01:45:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:45:23] Speaker C: Just kind of adds. [01:45:29] Speaker B: And Lisa, I especially love your framing. You know, the way you've chosen to really crop in with a one to one ratio as well. It makes it super interesting and unique, I think. [01:45:41] Speaker A: Yeah, very nice. I don't know what's going on up here though. [01:45:46] Speaker B: What is this? [01:45:49] Speaker A: I see something's happened there with. Oh, I can't tell. That looks like a processing issue or something. I don't even know if that could be something in the frame. That's. That's odd. This little white sliver in the corner. [01:46:04] Speaker B: I can't see it because there's something blocking it on our view. Oh, there it is. Something just peeked in. [01:46:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know whether that's in the Shot or if it's something, some sort of interesting koala. Very nice. Very cool. All right, what do you got for us, Paul? I've been trying to get slow speed panning shots with my R5 and 100 to 500 because you were having some trouble with that. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Cannon's great. First handheld. First shot, handheld 500. 125th of a second second, which is this one. I think I've got them in the right order, which looks very cool. [01:47:01] Speaker C: It does look cool. [01:47:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Nice framing. [01:47:03] Speaker C: Also hard to pan when it's on that angle. [01:47:06] Speaker A: This one's bizarre. It's. That looks like a toy almost. [01:47:11] Speaker B: I. As a kid, I used to build model kits and I had a model kit just like that. And the decals had the teeth and the red nose. [01:47:20] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, very cool. So second shot, 500 mil at 100th of a second. And then third shot, 428 mil at 100th of a second as well, which I've got them in the wrong. I've got them in the wrong order. Anyway, this. This one's at 500. This one was at 428. Close enough, if it works. I get a nice blur in the props. Appreciate any advice on how to improve the keeper rate of 1 in 50. Yeah, that's. [01:47:57] Speaker C: Planes are hard. Yeah. I don't know if you've ever shot them. They are. I. I only shot the air show once and it was interesting. [01:48:06] Speaker B: I shot a lot when I was in art school. I shot. I shot the Avalon air show. On film. Didn't work out. [01:48:13] Speaker C: Yeah, on film would be very difficult. [01:48:15] Speaker B: Didn't work out. [01:48:19] Speaker C: Well done. [01:48:20] Speaker A: Planes are getting a lot of love in the chat. [01:48:23] Speaker B: Yeah, that's pretty cool, Paul. Very cool. [01:48:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Everyone's keen. Finally, Rick Nelson. What did Rick say? [01:48:33] Speaker C: Brisbane. [01:48:37] Speaker A: Quick. [01:48:37] Speaker B: I love the framing. [01:48:39] Speaker A: Yeah. Quick. Adding to kangaroo point. Brisbane, after work, shot on the Lumix S5 II with Lumix 85 MIL F 1.8. It's an eight image stitch in Photoshop. All right, let's see what we can. We can find then. Okay. [01:48:57] Speaker C: Where's lots of details? [01:48:59] Speaker A: There is a lot of details. Very cool. But surely we can find something. What have you. What have you. [01:49:08] Speaker C: What are you looking for that's wrong with it? Is that what you're looking at? [01:49:10] Speaker A: Yeah, like a stitch, you know, like there's three people down here that are all connected or something. You know? Surely why can't you do those things? [01:49:18] Speaker B: That just feels rude. [01:49:19] Speaker A: That's fun. [01:49:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:49:21] Speaker A: I actually can't see anything. So he's really good at it. [01:49:27] Speaker B: My question is, so when you've stitched these, have they all been shot in landscape or portrait orientation and then stitched? So you've got that. That full width of the sensor. [01:49:38] Speaker A: Yeah, Good. [01:49:38] Speaker C: In vertical mode, you'd stitch it that way, wouldn't you? [01:49:42] Speaker B: You'd think so. [01:49:43] Speaker A: Yeah, I would. If I was doing it. I would gravitate, shoot vertically. Yeah, yeah. But it'd be interesting to see what. [01:49:49] Speaker C: What focal length does it say, Justin? [01:49:53] Speaker A: It doesn't because it's stitched. Panel. [01:49:55] Speaker C: Sometimes it still gives you the details. [01:49:58] Speaker B: Shot portrait and stitch. [01:49:59] Speaker A: Cool. [01:50:00] Speaker B: Really great image, Rick, what do you. [01:50:02] Speaker A: What do you think, Rick? Would I be able to spot anything or are you too good? [01:50:06] Speaker B: Caregivers X half shot with the X half. [01:50:10] Speaker A: It's a 650 image panorama. [01:50:15] Speaker B: It's 85 mil lens. [01:50:19] Speaker C: Nice. [01:50:20] Speaker B: Very nice. [01:50:26] Speaker A: Wait a minute, wait a minute. We're gonna have to go to. What's this? We'll have to go to 400%. 800. What's this? [01:50:39] Speaker B: It's a UFO. [01:50:40] Speaker A: I don't know. It could be something, but it also might be nothing. And so for context, this is how far. This is how far I'm zoomed in. [01:50:55] Speaker B: Oh, there's two pixels that look weird. [01:51:00] Speaker A: 800%. And even then, I'm not quite sure if it's like an artifact or something or if it's actually. I don't know. Well done. Yeah, that's a good. A good panorama. Very nice. Aliens. It could be aliens. [01:51:19] Speaker B: You never know, Simon. [01:51:21] Speaker A: That's the funny thing, because they always say, how come? How come? You know, cameras have gotten better and better, but UFO and alien footage still looks like it was captured on a potato. And it's because of this. It's because I'd be like, look, aliens in Brisbane. And then you zoom in and he'll like, see, see, it's clear here. They were flying over the Brisbane River. [01:51:42] Speaker C: Rick said, probably an ibis. [01:51:46] Speaker B: I don't know. [01:51:47] Speaker A: Reckon it's a bean chicken with the bin. Could be. Could be a bin chicken. Looks like the Tardis. [01:52:01] Speaker C: Could be. [01:52:01] Speaker B: It doesn't. Like. [01:52:02] Speaker A: Yeah, in chicken. F18 flying over for river fire. Could be gone fast in chicken. Okay, it's. It's confirmed. It was a bin chicken. [01:52:15] Speaker B: It was a bin chicken. It wins the vote. [01:52:16] Speaker A: The chat. [01:52:17] Speaker B: Drop. [01:52:18] Speaker A: Drop. There they do go. Fast motion blur. [01:52:23] Speaker C: There's big trees there. [01:52:27] Speaker A: Is that it? [01:52:28] Speaker C: I don't know. You've got the images. [01:52:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's. Everyone's images. Let me know if you're. If I didn't bring your images up and I've mucked up somehow, but I think I'm onto it. I'm just still disappointed about the Bluetooth live calling. So excited. [01:52:42] Speaker B: Well, you've got all week to fix it. [01:52:46] Speaker C: Maybe Greg can try with this camera too. [01:52:49] Speaker A: Yeah. If you press that button, maybe it'll work. [01:52:52] Speaker B: Maybe. Very odd placement for a Bluetooth button. [01:52:57] Speaker A: It really is just odd to have a Bluetooth button. I kind of remember it being on a few other cameras maybe years ago, but I haven't. [01:53:04] Speaker C: I reckon some Nikons had it back in the day. [01:53:06] Speaker B: Yeah. But usually it's on the top plate. [01:53:08] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:53:09] Speaker B: Like it's a little function button that you can customize back to something else. But. And I think, like I said, I think it's Fujifilm trying to push people to. Rather than going to computer, just do your editing in camera and transfer it to your smartphone. I think that's what they're sort of pushing. [01:53:27] Speaker A: Grant was obviously listening to the show, but not commenting because he sent me an AI picture of me training to hold the camera. Hang on. With my. With my T shirt. With your Wombatman T shirt on. But I don't. I don't know. Does this look like me? [01:53:46] Speaker B: Yeah, spot on. [01:53:47] Speaker A: I don't think it's. [01:53:49] Speaker B: You don't have that much. [01:53:50] Speaker C: It's very accurate, though. [01:53:51] Speaker A: The shirt is. I literally have that T shirt. Kind of. That's funny. The cameras. It always does weird stuff with cameras. Just looks odd. [01:54:07] Speaker B: Maybe it's not allowed to do that. [01:54:09] Speaker C: Kind of looks accurate, you know? [01:54:10] Speaker A: The only way that I could potentially test the phone is call some of the people that have been texting that number to me, sending me funny. And just see who it is. It'll turn the tables on you guys. Yeah, we're coming to you. We're coming to you. I'll figure it out first. [01:54:27] Speaker B: All right, well, I think on that note, it's probably a good time to wrap up this episode of the Camera Life podcast. What do you say, lads? [01:54:34] Speaker A: I think so. [01:54:35] Speaker B: All right, well, on that note, just before we roll the music, just a reminder to everyone, this is the Camera Life podcast. Our random photography shows is every Monday evening at 7.30pm Australian Eastern Standard Time. And then of course, every Thursday morning at 9:00am Hang on, did I say 7:30pm? I did. 9:00am every Thursday morning. We also have the random photography show where we interview a photographer. Someone just like you, perhaps. Anyway, stay tuned for that. The best way to get notified about our upcoming episodes is to first give us a like for this one. Make sure you subscribe to the channel and hit the bell icon so you get notified in your time zone of when the next episode is coming up. But we are also in the works of planning our little BFOP weekend. The bright festival of photography is fast approaching and we'll be there on hand as lucky straps and the Camera Life podcast. And we're actually getting a podcast every morning of the befop festival. [01:55:36] Speaker A: Yeah, a live in person podcast. What could possibly go wrong? All of our equipment always works and nothing ever glitches or. [01:55:42] Speaker C: Yeah, you're gonna be able to call in, Jim. [01:55:45] Speaker B: Please be there. [01:55:46] Speaker A: The plan, the plan was to be able to have people call in, but you know, we'll see, we'll see. [01:55:52] Speaker C: Yeah, there's still, you know, weeks to sort that out. [01:55:54] Speaker B: Oh, until all the time. [01:55:56] Speaker A: I'll be working hard. [01:55:58] Speaker B: But on that note, we're gonna play the music, say. Say farewell to some people. Justin, Jim, a pleasure as always and thanks to everyone in the chat for contributing, sending in your photos and just being part of our amazing community. And on that note, have a great night. [01:56:13] Speaker A: I'm going to put us down here for the outro. Look at it. It's fun. I don't know. [01:56:17] Speaker B: That's my camera. That's my camera. [01:56:19] Speaker A: Look at Greg's camera bouncing around and Greg's hand. All right, let's. Let's see who's in the chat while we play the music. Thanks, Craig. Thanks for your help. Thanks, Paul. And Paul, Greg Carrick, do it all with meta glasses. [01:56:35] Speaker B: Thanks. [01:56:36] Speaker A: He also wanted to say Fujifilm. [01:56:38] Speaker B: And your mate. [01:56:40] Speaker A: Bruce Moore says use code Jim or Justin or Greg, whatever you want. Who else we got? Philip Johnson. Good to see you. Bruce Moyle. Amazing. John Pickett, Rick Nelson. Great show. Glitches and all. I know. Oh, Simon Pollock, thanks for joining. It was fun. Yeah. Lisa, David Leporardi, thanks for sending your photos in. Thanks for everyone sending your photos in. It makes the show fun. Send them in next week. Who else we got? Is that it? [01:57:06] Speaker B: Chris, Benny. [01:57:07] Speaker A: Chris, good to see you. Oh, Nev. Yes. [01:57:11] Speaker B: Leech. [01:57:11] Speaker C: Good job at the drinks. [01:57:14] Speaker A: Yeah. All right. Yeah, toodles. [01:57:17] Speaker B: See you guys. Be safe. [01:57:18] Speaker C: Thank you.